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Assalam  alykam  he also said nimrod and Abrham  did not live in the same time but i thought they did?



he claims Muhammad may peace be upon him always mixed people up

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  Muslims claim that Koran 5:32 is their god allah's words. But is it ? Most of the Koran comes from Mohammad copying stories from Gnosticism and those who practiced it around him. Mohammad also copied much from the Jewish Talmud, which was written by ancient Jewish teachers..Actually much of Mohammad's book this Koran is copied from different sources that were around him. None came from a supposed angel called Jibril. Here is one of the proofs. More will be given to the Muslim skeptic if they were to ask me. Peace. Koran 5:32 Sahih International
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Compared to:

Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 37a
"Whoever destroys a soul from Israel, the Scripture considers it as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life from Israel, the Scripture considers it as if he saved an entire world."

Notice in the Koran the added disclaimer [unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land.]

For you Muhammad Lawal Badamasi. Please research each one . And when you are ready I will give you more. Thanks. The source of Sura 3:35-37 is the fanciful book called The Protevangelion's James the Lesser.

• The source of Sura 87:19 is the Testament of Abraham.

• The source of Sura 27:17-44 is the Second Targum of Esther.

• The fantastic tale that God made a man "die for a hundred years" with no ill effects on his food, drink, or donkey was a Jewish fable (Sura 2:259ff.).

• The idea that Moses was resurrected and other material came from the Jewish Talmud (Sura 2:55, 56, 67).

• The story in Sura 5:30,31 can also be found in pre-Islamic works from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer, the Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziah and the Targum of Jerusalem.

• The tale of Abraham being delivered from Nimrod's fire came from the Midrash Rabbah (see Suras 21:51-71; 29:16, 17; 37:97,98). It must be also pointed out that Nimrod and Abraham did not live at the same time. Muhammad was always mixing people together in the Quran who did not live at the same time.

• The non-biblical details of the visit of the Queen of Sheba (Saba) in Sura 27:20-44 came from the Second Targum of the Book of Esther.

• The source of Sura 2:102 is no doubt the Midrash Yalkut (chapter 44).

• The story found in Sura 7:171 of God lifting up Mount Sinai and holding it over the heads of the Jews as a threat to squash them if they rejected the law came from the Jewish book Abodah Sarah.

• The story of the making of the golden calf in the wilderness, in which the image jumped out of the fire fully formed and actually mooed (Suras 7:148; 20:88), came from Pirke Rabbi Eleazer.

• The seven heavens and hells described in the Quran came from the Zohar and the Hagigah.

• Muhammad utilized the Testament of Abraham to teach that a scale or balance will be used on the day of judgment to weigh good and bad deeds in order to determine whether one goes to heaven or hell (Suras 42:17; 101:6-9).

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Assalam alykam  I am debating a christian and they are asking does the injeel record Jesus acussed of blsaspermy?



This Christian says the Following   "  Tell me why Allah made the one going to the cross appear like Jesus while it was someone else. My question was not about trying to prove Jesus deity, Isa. My question was to find out if it was recorded in the Injil. It makes no sense to me that your Quran records that Allah made it look like Jesus on the cross while it was someone else while not providing documented Injil about Jesus being on trial in the first place. You Muslims often say that Jesus RECEIVED the Injil, but that the injil is not a recording of Jesus life. If that is the case, why did Allah address a non documented history--unless you are admitting that the gospel account from the Christian gospel is real documented history that Allah should address. and if it really happened and is recorded in the original Injil you guys say was out there, then that does not make sense either to me, since you all say that the Injil was not about Jesus life---you all say the injil was GIVEN to Jesus. I hope I am making my point clear--- WHAT was Allah addressing when He said that He made it appear that the one on the cross was Jesus? Was He addressing an Injil that you no longer have or was He addressing the actual gospel records, which, would then seem to me that Allah is giving some creadance to the Christian gospel writings. and if not, then does that mean your Injil really was a record of Jesus life?"


PLEASE HOW DO I RESPOND TO THIS

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Matthew 16?
« on: March 24, 2015, 05:53:04 PM »
Assalam. alykam alot of christian use the following passages to prove Jesus was crucified



What I want to know is did Jesus say these things or did someone add them.in the gospel of Matthew




I need a good background check.and refutation.      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+16





Jesus Predicts His Death
21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[f] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”










Jesus Predicts His Death
21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[f] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it. 26 What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

28 “Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Footnotes:

Matthew 16:3 Some early manuscripts do not have When evening comes … of the times.
Matthew 16:18 The Greek word for Peter means rock.
Matthew 16:18 That is, the realm of the dead
Matthew 16:19 Or will have been
Matthew 16:19 Or will have been
Matthew 16:25 The Greek word means either life or soul; also in verse 26.
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Assalam alykam all

just wanted to get your thoughts on this women


there are alot of people like this who believe God speaks to  them


Most people say its Jinn   but i think sometimes its their own mind    they are so emotionally involved in  their faith they believe God speaks to them they start seeing visions of Prophercy and events etc

here is a video  please give me your feed back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unryrp9fYRY

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Assalam alykam    did Jews really used to pray 50times a day?

Jews before Islam used to pray 3 times a day

where did the 50 prayers used to be offerd? in Musa's  time?


or did the Jews never used to pray 50 is it just an example of how much reward we get? 

check this link and  respond to the information?    http://www.answering-islam.org/Index/S/salat.html

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Assalam alykam  christians say the following


All "Standard or Repetitive Prayers" are offensive to God

 

The Father hates any form of "Standard" or repetitive type prayers. From the Rosary and Hail Mary prayers, to anything read from any form of a prayer book, even to the Lord's Prayer. The rule of thumb for the new Millennium is this: "Make all of your prayers consist of praise and thanksgiving only, make each one a unique and original love letter from your heart, and then you will prosper in all your ways".

The "unique and original" clause refers to the Father's desire that each prayer be new and original and with NO REPETITIVE words in it. A slow, thoughtful listing of all the things that you are thankful for, in an offering of praise and adoration, on your knees, is the only proper and pleasing way to pray.

God already is very keenly aware of each and every detail and possible need in your life, a simple heartfelt and care filled "thank you" from his beloved children is all that gives him any pleasure in his life. Heartfelt, real and sincere acknowledgement. Save the repetitive babble, those days are now over. The insult and the lack of care that the mindless repetition of some tired old words that he has heard billions and billions of times before gives him almost absolutely nothing for his tireless, mostly unnoticed work of holding everything on this beautiful planet together perfectly 24/7. He deserves a lot more thought and care than that, and the ones that he loves the most give that to him. They are the "keepers" and after they die he simply can not bear to lose them so he "keeps them" forever, yes it is one of the keys to successfully receiving eternal life.

God the Father labels himself over and over in the bible as "a jealous God" (Exodus 34:14), he desires that you make him the highest priority in your life. You are in essence entering into a marriage relationship with him and he demands all the love, respect and attention that a human spouse would require. The Father has chosen reverent prayer as the means to communicate with him, a very common mistake is to create any type of "Standard" prayers that you use each morning and evening such as simply reciting the Lord's Prayer. The Lord's Prayer was never meant to be recited verbatim, it was only meant to be an example of the type of prayer the Father would find pleasing.

If you ever develop a close relationship with the Father you will feel his eyes glaze over and his attention drop when you stop saying what is in your heart and begin to "Go Standard" with any repetitive words in your prayers. The Father only wants to know what is going on in your heart, he is not a babbling idiot, if he wanted to hear the same thing over and over again he would have bought a tape recorder. The bible specifically points this out as a very important thing to avoid in your prayers, "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words". (Matthew 6:7)

A tired old repetitive "standard prayer" demonstrates that you have no concept of God. It demonstrates that you believe in "voodoo religion", in other words you think that the worship of God is done properly by performing a series of mechanical steps very similar to the primitive rites of voodoo so that "the Gods will be appeased". In other words God only works when you stick the pin in the doll.  You are demonstrating that in your mind God is not the person who is sitting right next to you at this very moment. In religion there are some traditional ritual type practices that are pleasing to God but intimate prayer and conversation with the Father is not one of them. The only prayers that will be honored by God from now on are original prayers that you say from your heart. The ideal goal of developing any prayer skills is to always remember that the Father created both your body and your personality in his own image and he desires to communicate with you in the same way you would talk to an old friend on the phone.

Always say exactly what is in your heart, when you start to "go standard" because you can't think of anything more to say, it is probably the time to finish up the prayer. A thousand words that come from a prayer book are not as valuable as one that comes from your heart and says to the Father what you really mean. The bible already specifically points this out as a very important thing to avoid in your prayers, "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition". (Matthew 6:7) 

 

You have to look at this from the point of view of the Father, if he knows that he can expect the same exact words over and over day in and day out, just how interesting do you think that is for him to hear, why should he even bother to listen? 

 

The "Lord's Prayer" was never meant to be recited verbatim. It was simply meant to be an example of the "type" of prayer God the Father would find pleasing. God likes only non standard unique "one-off" prayers. No repeating words are to be included. God can be bored to tears just like anybody else. If you are reading a prayer from any kind of a prayer book, don't bother anymore, the beloved one already heard that one billions of times before. It is like saying "ditto" back  when somebody tells you that they love you. Worthless. Show that you care a little bit, give the beloved one a unique and an original love letter from your heart each and every time.

The only thing that is meant to be standard is just who all your prayers should be addressed to, and that is always to the Father. Or you may say "the Shekinah", that is the same thing. (see - Just who do you pray to?) Jesus said "Pray then in this way, Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name," etc.. (Matthew 6:9) He alone is tasked with the responsibility of hearing and responding to all your communication offered up to God in the form of prayers. 

 


Note: That being said there are certain "task specific" prayers that have to be done in an orderly way to accomplish the specific task desired. The prayers for receiving the Holy Spirit or to bind the power of Satan (it removes all the fear and worry from your mind within a few minutes) and the Sabbath Candle Ritual are three examples of such "task specific" prayers. These three prayers and the new "Lord's Creed" are the ONLY exceptions that will be accepted without prejudice and total rejection from the Father and his important new rule and prayer requirement of "no more standard prayers". The Lord's Creed is important as it is a very concise "snapshot" of the all of the Father's main mandates in the New Holy Bible refined down into one easy to remember paragraph. And within the Lords Creed itself is the Father's explicit mandate that addresses this huge problem of offensive standard repeating prayers, and I quote "Make each one a unique and original love letter from your heart, and then you will prosper in all of your ways".

These four sole exceptions are the "task specific prayers" written by God the Father Almighty himself specifically for the task intended. They are the only exceptions to the rule. All other repetitive, standard or originating from a prayer book prayers will be summarily rejected and not even heard by the Father as of the release of the new bible.

 

If you ignore the new mandate, everything that you ask for in the offensive standard prayer will be specifically denied to you as punishment for ignoring his important and permanent new mandate on the proper way to pray.

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also  when he had Mary the coptic the wives got angry  then the revelation came down rebuking the wives that the conspired together against Muhammad pbuh

saying  Allah can replace you with better wives etc

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Assalam alykam  here is the video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ6c66G99A4

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / someone needs to refute this
« on: February 23, 2015, 04:56:25 AM »
Assalam.alykam  can you refute this     http://youtu.be/j953Crz_dpM

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Assalam alykam  some people like robert spencer says Muhammad would make up verses when it was conveinant for him   e.g when his wife was accused of adultery and when he married zaynab etc.  can someone refute these claims more information in video please refute  in detail     http://youtu.be/YPs9EAT6_-4

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Assalam  alykam can somebody with deeper knowledge please answer

the return of Christ is only mentioned in hadith  also the dajjal

even in pagan  religions  they had return of christ fighting  the anti christ

Apparently , in ancient mythology the second coming had always been connected with the end times drama. So I guess the book of revelation had to be written ( or copied ) to establish that Christianity is the true religion of the world. Even the early Christians mistaken these mysteries as Christian history , which is presently endorsed and sealed as the divine word of avenging God.

 can it be possible that these stories crept into  the hadith literture?  they are the same sort of stories retold

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Assalam alykam these christians hold on to their belief so strongly they twist their own information and our information    regarding the dajjal

they say our concept of Dajjal is  The real Jesus  and muslims will fight him and imam mahdi is the anti christ and Isa.is the false prophet   they twist their own to fit their belief and twist ours to make us the bad guys     



here is the article that needs to be answered       http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch09_comparing_the_biblical_jesus.htm

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it just got to me a bit

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