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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: 666 Lies against Islam
« on: March 10, 2017, 10:09:51 AM »
As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh dear brother TruthExposer777,

an excellent research on this issue was done by Michael Scheifler, where he proved sufficiently enough that the number 666 has a connection with the latin phrase Vicarius Filii Dei (Vicar of the Son of God) used by Popes. This view is supported by a powerful references coming directly from documents of the Roman Catholic Church. Here is the work of Michael Scheifler (I have talked about it in one of my earlier topics):

Link: http://biblelight.net/666.htm

Read it for entire and I guarantee you will be surprised! It can be used against all Catholics - including Walid Shoebat and other Islamophobes - who desperately tries to make this number as an allusion to Islam or Allah. For your information, no one has refuted Michael Scheifler argument :) May Allah guide him to Islam.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed

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Wa aleikum as-Salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Yes, dear brother Osama, if you can please translate to me this arabic text about "kamal" from Lisan al-Arab. I will be deeply greatful for such a kind of help. May God Almighty bless you and your family. Amin ya Rab!

Also, brother Sama jazaka Allahu khayran for reminding me about such a nice website in which I can search for Arabic words inside the best Arabic disctionaries ! Super!

Ahmed

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As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

thank you very much Sama, jazaka Allahu khayran for your help.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed

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Wa aleikum as-Salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Baraketuh,

may Allah bless you akhi Osama, however I really need an affirmation from Lisan al-Arab if the term "kamil" could be also translated as "perfect". I need to be sure when I will answer to my debater. I know that you are familiar with Lisan al-Arab and you have all volumes of this disctionary, masha'Allah! I hope you will help me to confirm it from this source.

Jazaka Allahu khayran for all your efforts akhi!

Ahmed

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As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

dear sisters and brother, I was told that the arabic din Kamil - which means in Arabic "Perfect Religion" or "Complete Religion" - is a very broad and general notion, and thus one have to be careful with Arab rhetoric.

First, did Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) ever called or suggested in some reliable hadith that Islam is a perfect religion (din kamil) ?
Second, if he did, the how it was understood this Arabic expression and which would be the best translation ?

Dear brother Osama, could you chekc for me in Lisan al-Arab whether this Arabic expression din kamil was used to describe Islam.

Jazaka Allahu kayran akhi Osama

Ahmed

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Wa aleikum as-salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

thank you dear brother Mohamed Saif. No problem, I will post insha'Allah some new findings, perhaps together we would solve some difficult passages.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed

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As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh dear brother Osama,

Thank you for such a kind of info akhi. It will help me now to get a much clearer view of some Old Testament passages. Excellent!
Thank you once again, and jazaka Allahu khayran, and also for brother Mohamed Saif for some additional hints on this topic.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

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As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

great pieces of info brother Osama! Jazaka Allah khayran akhi. So, we can conclude that Mecca and the desert of Arabia are hidden under many names: Paran, Zion, Baka, ...Babylon ?? Again, just for clarifying: the "Daughter of Babylon" is Mecca or Arabia ?

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As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh dear brother Osama,

thank you for the explanation. Interesting, I didn't know about this, since I thought that Babylon is referring maybe to the territories of modern Iraq. The camel driver from Isaiah 21:7 is almost certainly Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), but which Babylon Isaiah has in mind two verses later (i.e. Isaiah 21:9)? Is he talking about Iraq or pagan Arabia ?

As to the Future Babylon, which is called "THE GREAT harlot", some Christians says that it refers to the Roman Catholic Church, precisely the Vatican, and it seems they have a pretty good argument.

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Salam aleikum,

I have found in answering-christianity.com the following Old Testament quotation: "Arabia has not yet met its threshold, and "and the time of her harvest shall come." (Jeremiah 51:33)

Where did the word Arabia appear in this verse ? It is about Babylon here not Arabia. I think this is an error to mention Arabia in Jeremiah 51:33, but maybe I'am wrong.

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I have one more doubt.  How do we know that the "Zion" mentioned in Isaiah is not literally the Zion in Jerusalem.  How do you know it refers to the Holy city of Mecca?

The term Zion either refers exclusively to Mecca alone or there are perhaps two Zions. This expression is used in so many different ways, but in the Book of Isaiah, as I remarked almost every time it is applied to Mecca, or in some cases to Kaaba itself! For example, reading Isaiah 1:26 according to the text of LXX, Zion will be called the “Mother City”, and in Masoretic Text is called the “Faithful City” or rather the “Safety City”. Now, both of these titles are given only to Mecca in Islam’s teaching (see Quran 6:92, and 16:112). In Isaiah 28:16 it is said that God lays in Zion for a foundation some special stone, a very precious stone which is to be placed on the corner of Zion’s building. According to Islam’s tradition, when Abraham and Ismail (peace be upon them) were laying the foundation of Kaaba and then was almost finished, Allah gave to them a heavenly stone, which is now called the “Black Stone” placed in the corner of the wall of Kaaba (zawiya mukarrama). In Psalm 48:12, pilgrims are told to encircle Zion. It is well known in Islam that pilgrims must encircle Kaaba (see Quran 22:29). There are few other striking allusions as well.

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My other question is that if Prophet Muhammad fulfilled most of the messianic prophecies then why is Jesus Christ called the Messiah in Islam. Did he do anything special to gain the title? We know that he only came to confirm the law and the gospel and give glad tidings of a messenger to come after him. And we also know that he didn't liberate the jews from the Roman Empire. Then why was he given this title?

As I tried to explain you in my previous posts, personally I do not believe in other Messiah besides Jesus (pbuh), because my source - i.e. the Quran and hadiths – mentions zero about two messiahs like in this corrupted Torah in which you will find e.g. that David is called Messiah, and now even Moses in Qumran texts is called the Messiah. Why the Jews were calling them by this title, I don’t know, but I know that Allah has cursed them, and exposed them in many ways. For instance, Allah has revealed in the Quran that the Jews and Christians calls themselves “Sons of God”. Isn’t written in Psalm 82:6 “You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High” ? This is of course a wishful thinking, since they desired so to be called in such a manner, but Allah didn’t affirm it, in contrary, He explicitly refused their claims, and this automatically mean that the words “You are gods, and all of you are sons of the Most High” from Psalm 82:6 must have been inserted by those arrogant Jews who abolished Allah’s law. So, this weird Jewish teaching about many Messiahs – paradoxically excluding Jesus (pbuh) from this group! – is insane and have no support from Islam sources.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

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I actually thought that Isaiah 59:20 where it says that the "redeemer shall come unto Zion" and Isaiah 62:3 where it says that "Thou shalt be a crown of glory" is talking about the same servant. That is what I meant.

Correct, these two passages talks about the same person, since were applied messianically by the ancient Synagogue. The Redeemer and Zion should be understood as a reference to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) coming back to Mecca, saving his people from idolatry and other great sins.

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I was actually going through your previous posts and found some interesting facts. In one of your previous posts you said that the name Ahmed existed in Isaiah in the Armenian Bible.  If you could actually prove that then the whole book of Isaiah is almost dedicated to Prophet Muhammad. If the servant songs referred to the same person and Prophet Muhammad's name existed there then the entire song is about him.

Yes, there is a curious indication which could prove that the name Ahmad originally appeared in Isaiah 42:10. It is Haydar ‘Ali al-Qurayshi, a Muslim historian quoted by Rahmatullah al-Hindi, who reported that in the year 1666, an Archbishop called Voscan Yerevantsi or Auscan Erewanci, have translated the Book of Isaiah into Armenian language in which he supposedly mentioned Ahmed in chapter 42:10, but for now I’am too sceptical to this report until I will be able to check it for myself with the help of friends professor insha’Allah.

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It cannot refer to Christ since Prophet Muhammad suffered far more than him. Christ suffered Three years of persecution while Prophet Muhammad suffered 13 years. So who is the suffering servant?  The answer now is almost obvious!

Well, certainly Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) in his lifetime suffered much more than Jesus (pbuh). He was suffering physically and psychically as well.

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Your works are highly scholarly and professional. Keep up the good work brother Idris

Thank you, I hope that my work will be fruitful for all Muslims!

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

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Wa aleikum, a-Salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

I don't know in what manner you are asking ? I did not analyzed passages of Isaiah 60, 62, but I encourage you to do your own research. If you are interested in Old Testament studies, then it is advisable that you should learn Hebrew, since without it you could be easily refuted by any person influent in Hebrew.

As to the Four Servant Songs, only Isaiah 52:13-53:12 has been identified as a "Suffering Servant". Early Jewish tradition from 200-500 A.D. apply this to the Messiah, but obviously they did not meant Jesus pbuh, since they have already rejected him. I personally do not understand this weird Jewish view of many messiahs. If there were indeed many messiahs, Allah would mentioned other than Jesus (pbuh). Even from the hadith, we do not heard of any Messiah beside Jesus (pbuh), so I think that, since Jews had such a powerful Kings like David (pbuh), after Babylonian exile, they started dreaming about a perfect Kingly Messiah, who will be a king, a priest, and a warrior-prophet, and who will be a saviour to them. When Jesus (pbuh) came, they were deeply disappointed, because he was weak, he did not like to fight, nor had some special authority etc. and after his ascension, they still have this weird idea about a Kingly Messiah (ironically even Muslims sometimes are forced to use it when they want to refer to Prophet Muhammad pbuh as a last of many messiahs). Therefore, I think that this whole concept about many messiahs - Royal and Priestly Messiah -  is merely a Jewish joke, a wishful thinking, a pious hope... In other words, if it would be true, I 'am sure that Allah or Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) would have spoke at least one phrase about other messiah - or anointed one - than Jesus (pbuh), but we have nothing, thus it is a Jewish invention !

As to the Suffering Servant from Isaiah 52:13-53:12 it does apply in many ways, but I did not finished my work on this, and it is in early stage of research, but there are some striking allusions which proves that the section of Isaiah 52:13-53:12 is - or was - originally a description of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), and Allah knows best!

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)



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Wa aleikum as-salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh dear brother Mohamed Saif,

MS #96, according to Kennicot’s classification, lacks the word “Israel” in the passage of Isaiah 49:3 ! (See the critical apparatus in the link below, under VARIAE LECTIONES, p. 63)

Link: https://archive.org/stream/vetustestamentum02kenn#page/62/mode/2up

Firstly, notice that in the same passage it appears a Hebrew word פאר for “glory, praise”, and it is most likely that the word ישׂראל (i.e. Israel) is an early interpolation inserted to the text of Isaiah 49:3. For the scholars themselves, the absence of ישׂראל in MS #96 plays an important factor. Secondly, Isaiah 42:1 according to LXX is talking about Jacob/Israel being a Chosen servant, while neither MT (Masoretic text), TJ (Targum Jonathan), SP (Syriac Peshitta), nor 1QIsa (The Great Isaiah Scroll) contains such words, so the Jews were certainly manipulating with these particular fragments. NO DOUBT!

Rabbi Ibn Ezra, a great Jewish scholar and author of the best exegesis on the Book of Isaiah, states that the servant mentioned in Isaiah 42:1-4, Isaiah 49:1-6, Isaiah 50:4-9, Isaiah 52:13-53:12 is basically the same person.

The Targum and some early rabbinic sources agree with that the Four Servant Songs refers specifically to the Messiah (i.e. the last and final Prophet). However, the Jews are an entrusted people – very few of them you will find honest – who for sure tempered their text, especially when the “Royal Messiah”, the long awaited prophet, came to them (and they refused him just because he was an Arab, and not an Israeli one)

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Gospel of Barnabas
« on: February 16, 2017, 09:28:34 AM »
As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

You’re right brother Dawud, and I did noticed now that I wrongly expressed my self when I’ve said in my above post: „…but it cannot be said also that is entirely a forgery”. Of course, I also believe that the Gospel of Barnabas is not a forgery, Muslims could not wrote it, since it contains some contradictions, and Muslims would not contradict the Quran. If Barnabas quote it from his memory, then it is possible that he could have make some errors, it is natural.

This Gospel has intrigued me since I've discovered some very interesting parallel allusion to the text of Isaiah, and I think it can resolves some puzzled passages relating to the old testament prophecies! The Gospel of Barnabas should be systematically studied especially by Muslims.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

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