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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2015, 10:57:34 AM »
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah bro submit,

JajakAllahu khairan dear brother! I was asking for that link from the first post in the thread but none gave me that :(. The article is great! May Allah bless you and brother Abdur Rahman!

Though I can't agree with one line in the article The following bold line:

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as there is no evidence that this symbol is prescribed by Islam, it is better not to use it. Neither the crescent nor the star are symbols of the Muslims, even though some Muslims may use them as symbols.

Brother, I strongly recommend not to use it. Let's see it logically.

Take the star of David for example. The Prophet SAW didn't show anything like that. So if I say a muslim may use it as a symbol, will you agree with me? I DON'T THINK SO.

Why? The star of david is more authentic than the star crescent symbol, relatively. At least the SOD is associated with prophet David PBUH, an important prophet, while the crescent is associated with a harranian moon deity and several other moon deities as shown in the article and my first post. So isn't the SOD more appliable than the SC symbol?

For three reasons we won't use the SOD. 1)The prophet did't recommend it, 2)Islam prohibits keeping similarities with Jews and christians, the enemies of Allah, 3)There is no clear evidence that it was used by prophet David PBUH (or is there? I don't know. Even if there is any, we shouldn't use that. Because din was perfected through Prophet SAW and I guess the star would be nothing more than a royal seal)

If Islam prohobits keeping similarities with Jews (except the things the Prophet SAW showed himself), how can we expect that we may use that emblem therefore keep similarities with some ancient pagan harranian moon worshipers?! My point is, they are worse than Jews and Christians !!

Also, this verse specifies the halal utilization of the crescent moon.

“They ask you (O Muhammad) about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage…” [al-Baqarah 2:189]

This verse says that the moon is for calculating months and years, nothing about any emblem here!

So I don't think it is permissible to use that symbol as an emblem for Islam.

And Allah knows best...

At last, jajakAllahu khair again dear brother for the link. I often have troubles finding particular articles in the main site :P

May Allah save us from shirk, kufr and bidat.

Tahmeed
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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2015, 03:38:45 PM »
Don't overdo this brothers...

There is NO proof the crescent moon has antything to do with islam.

Look at saudi arabia flag, iraq flag, egypt, etc.
None has moon and these countries were islamic way before ottoman empire, pakistan, etc....

And in the quran nowhere you find use moon emblem.

Case closed, it's this easy to answer :D

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2015, 10:38:13 AM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brother TDRTB

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There is NO proof the crescent moon has anything to do with islam.

That's what I am talking about! It really doesnt have anything to do. But the problem is people are making it to do so. And that's what I am standing against.

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Don't overdo this brothers.......Case closed.....

We are not, dear brother :)

If almost every mosque in the world had a cross or a star of david or a owm (of Hinduism) on the top of it, and if people used this symbols whenever they wanted to represent Islam, in their flags, on TV; would you close the case so easily? ??? If I started a long thread against these would you call it overdoing, brother? The whole muslim world would protest against these symbols!!!

Muslims are now doing so by using the star-crescent symbol! But none says anything against it.

Why? Because they know that the cross, SOD, the hindu owm are all infidels' symbols. But the thing they don't know is that the crescent symbol also predates islam and is a pagan symbol too. And that's what I am trying to tell them, dear brother. U may read my posts with the picture of the harranian moon deity. And the post with the coins is just an appendix!! I showed there how the symbol first came in contact with the islamic empire.

I will say this again....Neither the Quran, nor the Prophet SAW suggested this symbol, so it is a new innovation, and every new innovation is a bidat and every bidat is error.

Peace....
Tahmeed
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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2015, 01:02:50 PM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brother TDRTB

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There is NO proof the crescent moon has anything to do with islam.

That's what I am talking about! It really doesnt have anything to do. But the problem is people are making it to do so. And that's what I am standing against.

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Don't overdo this brothers.......Case closed.....

We are not, dear brother :)

If almost every mosque in the world had a cross or a star of david or a owm (of Hinduism) on the top of it, and if people used this symbols whenever they wanted to represent Islam, in their flags, on TV; would you close the case so easily? ??? If I started a long thread against these would you call it overdoing, brother? The whole muslim world would protest against these symbols!!!

Muslims are now doing so by using the star-crescent symbol! But none says anything against it.

Why? Because they know that the cross, SOD, the hindu owm are all infidels' symbols. But the thing they don't know is that the crescent symbol also predates islam and is a pagan symbol too. And that's what I am trying to tell them, dear brother. U may read my posts with the picture of the harranian moon deity. And the post with the coins is just an appendix!! I showed there how the symbol first came in contact with the islamic empire.

I will say this again....Neither the Quran, nor the Prophet SAW suggested this symbol, so it is a new innovation, and every new innovation is a bidat and every bidat is error.

Peace....
Tahmeed

Don't get me wrong bro, I just meant don't overdo the explanation.

Just say not in quran or hadith you find something like this, and if this was, why doesn't saudi arabia iraq etc have these? These are the first muslim countries on earth.

But u're right, it's ''infiltrated'' and even muslims think it has something to do with islam :S

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2015, 03:41:12 AM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brother,

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Don't get me wrong bro, I just
meant don't overdo the explanation.

Oops....sorry for misunderstanding you, dear brother. You are right, I overdid the explanation a bit...hehe....as I said, the post with the coins is just an appendix :P Actually using a pagan symbol for Islam looks very much serious too me and that's why I did all this. But read the red colored writing in my last post, that's enough to prove that this symbol has NOTHING to do with God's true religion; Islam!

JajakAllahu Khair,
Tahmeed
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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2015, 02:55:37 PM »
Yeah I totally understand you.

But after many long posts on youtube and whatnot. I realized people don't even try to read everything :D

I try to keep it as short and as simple as possible. :P

But yeah, where is the world heading towards my friend. We let symbols infiltrate, false hadith, false muslims, lies, etc in our religion.
We mock jews for believing oral tradition. But we do the same... +-125000 hadith, +- 7500 sahih, +-2000 chained

We mock christians for symbolism. But our mosques are racing minarets with moon star symbols...
(I live in a west european country, we have 3 mosques and none have a moon or a minaret. The one in the other city ahs a minaret but I didn't pay attention if it has one)

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2015, 01:51:23 PM »
Assalamu alaikum brothers,

I took the following picture of goat headed Azazel from the satanist website I posted about before ;D



It is also said to be the image of Baphomet.

Notice the crescents in the upper left and lower right corners. Also the pentagram star in his forehead. Together, they make the symbol they use for Islam.

Tahmeed
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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2015, 04:16:59 AM »
Is there anything special with the colour green?Number 786(it is sometimes considered sacred by some)?

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2015, 12:53:05 PM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brother,

Color green is a heavenly color, the muslims will wear green clothes there and many other things. And from a scientific point of view, it's good for the eye!

786 is the numerical value for bismillahir rahmanir rahim. Check here

 http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/wordCount/QuranGV.php

Select chapter 1 verse 1 and then compute.

But if you r from indian subcontinent, u will see some peers using this number in tabiz (amulets) often. These amulets r considered to bring fortune, success or healing. That's when it gets bidat , kufr and shirk.

Peace....
Tahmeed
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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2015, 07:50:55 AM »
Crescent is nothing special. Cross isn't islamic, so we are fine with anything else that isn't anti-islamic as a symbol of red-crescent.

And mosques use moon as designs, nobody worships it. It isn't a living thing so drawing it is supposed to be fine.

Btw, what was the design of muslim flag during the jihads taking place during the time of Muhammad Sm.

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2015, 09:04:42 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Please visit the following link.  No creation is holy in Islam, not even the Kaaba itself:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_god.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/kaaba.htm

Did you know that the moon is considered holy in the Bible?  Read the link.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2015, 12:20:40 AM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brothers,

This is a good article.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/crescent.html

This also speaks about prophet Muhammad's (SAW) flag bro Abdullah Tahmeed.

Peace.....

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2015, 02:05:37 AM »
Assalamu alaikum,

If you see this Sadat, you will know how appropriate the topic 'Satan has his ways' is.........



Check out the second one.

If you tell a muslim to adopt a cross, a star of david, a shastika or a owm, he will never do it. Perhaps he will even rebuke you. But see how muslims are using a symbol, which is totally invalid in Quran and Sunnah, rather directly related with Lucifer himself! WOW! Bless this bidati ummah!

May Allah show us the right path and destroy this symbol,
Abu Abdullah

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2015, 06:32:45 AM »
to be honest if you read the description for lunar occultation symbol, it ends up being nothing wrong at all.

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the occult have particular fascination with astrology.
- nothing to do with fascination with Satan.
So the author just throw in a claim that Lucifer's star not knowing his own religion actually view Lucifer being Jesus. And if he came from the minor sect of Christianity, only then Lucifer is viewed as Satan.
Since Lucifer = Jesus. So the first part of the descriptions is technically saying
Star of Lucifer (Jesus's Star)
Wiccan religion? That is 20th century religion, a new religion that worship Trinity Goddess (one of them being Moon God Diana).

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Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2015, 01:57:03 PM »
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh dear brothers,

@Abdullah, JajakAllahu khair for that stuff, pal. The first one, the evil left eye of Horus, reminds me of Masih ad Dajjal!

Now, to all brothers, I think further discussion on this topic would be unnecessary, so let's just close this. Already too much posts on a simple matter: a symbol not used by Prophet Muhammad (SAW), Khulafa-e-Rashideen (May Allah be pleased with them) or the Salf-e-Saleheen (May Allah have mercy on them); rather used by pagans for their deities for centuries. So personally, I prefer to keep myself hundred yards away from this symbol, totally absent in Quran and Sunnah. After all that have been posted here, it's completely up to you whether you will accept this symbol or reject it, as Islam is the religion of peace!

"Truth has come, falsehood has perished, as falsehood is to perish!"

Ramadan Mubarak to you and your families,
From your brother in Islam,
Sadat Tahmeed
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