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Offline Hassan Abdulghani

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THE HISTORY OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL
« on: June 24, 2016, 08:05:04 AM »
If anyone asks you "When and How" was the Torah distorted, then ask him to read the history of the children of Israel in the first place.

This article, will Insha'Allah help you and him understand the summarized chronological history of Israel from Jacob (peace be upon him) until the covenant was broken and finished after the ascendance of Jesus the son of Mary.

https://defendislam.wordpress.com/2016/06/23/the-history-of-the-children-of-israel/


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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 11:26:07 AM »
Actually not everything is black and white, as quran told us that there are still some righteous jews. These jews i have come to realize are the ultra orthodox jews that only hold onto torah and not talmud.

Majority of rabbical jews, askhanazian jews, crypto-jews and so on follow the talmud. Which is oral laws of the rabbis. This document is so racist and evil to the core. It teaches jews that they are chosen people and they can do whatever they want to the goyim. They can steal from then, rape their women, kill their children and etc...

If anyone says that Protocol of Learnt Elders of Zion is fake tell them then read the Talmud. Those who are righteous jews when they learn about the Talmud they leave judaism because it is so evil.

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 01:31:10 PM »
Sorry, I didn't understand what you're trying to say.

The article was not criticizing the children of Israel nor it was praising them. People cannot separate the past from the present especially in such issues. The Muslims as well as non-Muslims have to get awareness about history, especially their and our history.

The article starts from the Prophet Jacob and ends till when the Jews were separated into several nations or till when the covenant of Allah was completely ended with them.

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 01:47:38 PM »
And I don't think by the way that a party of "righteous" Jews exist nowadays. The Qur'an does not say so either, it says:

Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve. [2:62]

A righteous Jew has to be a Muslim because the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam, and that's known by everyone. A Jew cannot be "righteous" if he's not a Muslim, his good deeds will not save him from the punishment of Allah, his example is like a Buddhist, Hindu, etc who also does good deeds but with no faith in Allah.

Another important point, someone's beliefs can reflect someone's manners, and someone's manners can reflect someone's beliefs. The Qur'an gives you ideas about that  in Surat-Al-Ma'oon:


Seest thou one who denies the Judgment (to come)?

Then such is the (man) who repulses the orphan (with harshness),

And encourages not the feeding of the indigent.

[107:1-3] 


So a righteous jew seeing Islam instructing righteousness has no any pretext to stay away out of it, Islam is the way of every human's life, after the descendant of the Qur'an, none is excused and everyone is warned.

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 02:06:41 PM »
I think whether some Jews of out time can be called as "righteous" or not, is not something very important, it becomes an issue of semantics. The more important question would be that whether they can go to heaven or not. This is dependent on Allah's forgiveness, as from the Qur'an we come to know that Allah can forgive all sins less that Shirk.

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Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.
(Qur'an 4:48)
Similar verse, Qur'an 4:116

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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 03:01:10 PM »
Yes you're right, that was my point as well.

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 06:28:19 PM »
Sorry i have not had time to go through the article, i was making a point regarding the present jews of our time. Also yes i am well aware of the history of the children of israel, how they started out as children of Jacob, and how they became oppressed by firoun but in turn later giving moses pbuh hard time and not following through with the covenant and even braking the sabbath.

Yes also i am aware that you must follow the prophet of your time and the covenant that allah swt made with ibrahim a.s. that he completed through prophet muhammad pbuh. Also i know how bani quraidah betrayed the treaty and how the half of jews of yathrib became muslim. And the true jew has to become a muslim.

What i am talking about are the different jews of our time and how to identify who is real and who isnt. Quran says as you pointed out. The righteous believers, righteous christians, righteous jews and righteous sebaens. What i am telling you is that out of all the jews who want to see destructiob for muslims and palestine there is a party among them who are continuasly protesting for us against israel.

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 07:02:21 PM »
Also another point to make is that from the very start of their history they were rebelious as how they treated their brother, prophet yusuf a.s., but i believe their time in eqypt is what corrupted them truly because after majority if not all the black magicans proclaimed their faith in allah swt with the children of israel, we can see how Samari who was a high magican misled them to worship a calf. Also i believe that because parties then co-mingled the children of israel and the magicans is also why such vast majority of jews later in history have mystic teaching such as how the rabbis during solomon a.s. time made usury halal, also they created the oral teaching the talmud which they respected more than torah.


It is quite clear that it is the rabbaic judaism the talmudic jews that totally destroyed what ever belief in allah they had. Since even though the torah prohibited evils such as usury and marrying with idol worshippers, their talmudic teaching corrupted them. It is reported from their own sources that they created the talmud since babylonian times and they said that this is also moses a.s. teaching but are only remembered by rabbis and is perserved orally until later they put it in manuscripts, thus calling them the oral laws of the rabbis.

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2016, 06:57:34 AM »
Yea, the article discusses the times of their disbelief. Turning away from the commands of Allah is what placed Allah's anger and curse upon them.

The era of Pharisees and after it as mentioned in the article, are the eras where lots of priests were manipulating the truth and following their desires, teaching the people things different.