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An important note:

As Muslims, we do not embrace the pedophilia, rape, terrorism and all of the other forms of evil that exist in the Bible, nor do we believe that the Prophets of Allah Almighty, peace and blessings be upon all of them, ever committed such cruel acts that are falsely attributed to them.

We're only exposing the corrupted bible and the evil that exists in it.

 

Gods Punishment in the Bible: Pregnant Women will be ripped open!

 
By
Karim
(He is a new convert to Islam, from the Netherlands)

 

 

 

 

Hosea 13:16 (New Living Translation) - The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords."

 

Hosea 13:16 (King James) Samaria will bear her guilt because she has rebelled against her God.
They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to pieces,  and their pregnant women ripped open. 

 

 

Below John Calvin’s (1509-1564 ) classical bible commentary,

Calvin’s Commentaries (Hosea 13:16) http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment3/comm_index.htm :

 

This is the conclusion of the discourse: this verse has then been improperly separated from the former chapter 1; for the Prophet enters not here on a new subject, but only confirms what he had said of the ultimate destruction of Samaria and of the whole kingdom. Samaria then shall be desolated; as though he said "I have already often denounced on you what you believe not, that destruction is nigh at hand; of this be now persuaded; but if you believe not, God will yet execute what he has determined, and what he now pronounces by my mouth." At the same time he adds the cause, For they have provoked their God. That they might not complain that they were severely dealt with, he says, that they only suffered the punishment which they deserved. He also specifies the kind of destruction that was to be, They shall fall by the sword, their children shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women squall be torn asunder, that the child may be extracted from the womb. In saying that the citizens of Samaria, and the inhabitants of the whole country, shall fall by the sword, he doubtless intimates that God would make use of this kind of punishment by sending for enemies who would consign them to destruction.

We now then see what is included in the words of the Prophet. He first shows that it was all over with Samaria and the whole kingdom of Israel; as God could by no means bring them to repentance, he would now take vengeance on so desperate an obstinacy. He afterwards shows that God would do this justly, because he had been provoked; and, lastly, he shows what kind their punishment would be. That they might not think that the Assyrians would come by chance, the Prophet says that this army, which was to invade and destroy the country of Samaria, would be, as it were, conducted by the hand of God; for though the Assyrians wished to extend their own borders, and were influenced by their own avarice and cupidity, yet God would use them as instruments to execute his own judgement; and that they might know how dreadful the vengeance would be, he relates two kinds of evils, -- that their children would be dashed in pieces, and that their women would be rent asunder, and their offspring extracted from their wombs. Even to speak of this is horrible; and it is what never takes place, except when enemies are greatly enraged and extremely provoked. We now then comprehend the meaning of the Prophet. 

But if any one objects and says, that infants, and babes as yet concealed in the wombs of their mothers, deserve not such a grievous punishment, as they have not hitherto merited such a thing; it may be answered, that the whole human race are guilty before God, so that infants though not yet come forth to the light, are yet included as being under guilt; so that God cannot be charged with cruelty, though he may use his own right towards them. And further, we hear what he declares in many places, that he will devolve the sins of parents on their children. Since it is so, let us learn to acquiesce in these awful judgements of God, though very repugnant to our feelings; for we know that we must not contend with God, and that it would be extreme presumption to do so; nay, it would be impious audacity. Though then the reason for this punishment may not appear to us, we ought yet reverently to regard this judgement of God.

Source: http://www.ccel.org/c/calvin/comment3/comm_vol26/htm/xx.xi.htm                                     

These electronic texts of Calvin's Commentaries were prepared through the labor of volunteers for the OnLine Bible project and the Christian Classics Ethereal Library in conjunction with the good folks at Ages Software.

 

 

The Assyrians as Gods Instrument for punishment in the bible:

 

 

In Isaiah 7:20 the bible makes clear that God will use the Assyrians as an instrument for punishment to judea:

 

Isaiah 7:20

On that day the Lord will use a razor hired from beyond the Euphrates River-the king of Assyria -to shave the head, the hair on the legs, and to remove the beard as well.

 

 

Commentaries by Jamieson, Fausset, Brown: 

 

Bible Commentary Isaiah 7:20 :

 

razor--The Assyrians are to be God's instrument of devastating Judea, just as a razor sweeps away all hair before it                                                                                                                                              

 

source:

 

http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/JamiesonFaussetBrown/jfb.cgi?book=isa&chapter=007

 

 

Isaiah 10:5 Woe to Assyria, the rod of My anger-the staff in their hands is My wrath.

 

 

 

 

Fullfillment of Gods promised punishment in Hosea 13:16

 

 

2 Kings 17:6

In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king of Assyria captured Samaria. He deported the Israelites to Assyria and settled them in Halah and by the Habor, Gozan's river, and in the cities of the Medes.

 

2 Kings 17:18 Therefore, the Lord was very angry with Israel, and He removed them from His presence. Only the tribe of Judah remained.  Comment:  all other tribes (including women and children)  were killed in a cruel way (pregnant women ripped open, see Hosea 13:16)

 

 

Samaria

 

Fulfilled.

2 Kings 17:6,18; 19:9-11 Isaiah 7:8,9; 8:4 17:3 Amos 3:9-15; 4:1 6:1-8 9:1

Micah 1:4; 6:16

 

 

their infants (dashed to peaces)

10:14,15 2 Kings 8:12; 15:16 Psalms 137:8,9; Isaiah 13:16; Nahum 3:10   

 

 

Nahum 3:10

Yet she became an exile;
she went into captivity.
Her children were also dashed to pieces
at the head of every street.

They cast lots for her dignitaries,
and all her nobles were bound in chains.

 

Psalms 137:8

Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is the one who pays you back
what you have done to us.

Psalms 137:9

Happy is he who takes your little ones
and dashes them against the rocks.

 

 

Bible Commentary: Jamieson, Fausset, Brown

 

8. daughter of Babylon--the people (Psalms 9:13). Their destruction had been abundantly foretold (Isaiah 13:14, Jeremiah 51:23). For the terribleness of that destruction, God's righteous judgment, and not the passions of the chafed Israelites, was responsible.

 

Source: http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/JamiesonFaussetBrown/jfb.cgi?book=ps&chapter=137#Ps137_8 

 

 

Why do they describe the dashing of innocent children to rocks as ‘God’s righteous judgement, this is sick!

 

 

 

Ezekiel 23:45-48 (King James Version)

45: And the righteous men, they shall judge them after the manner of adulteresses, and after the manner of women that shed blood; because they are adulteresses, and blood is in their hands.  

46: For thus saith the Lord GOD; I will bring up a company upon them, and will give them to be removed and spoiled.  

47: And the company shall stone them with stones, and dispatch them with their swords; they shall slay their sons and their daughters, and burn up their houses with fire.

48: Thus will I cause lewdness to cease out of the land, that all women may be taught not to do after your lewdness.

(not only of corporeal uncleanness, but of spiritual adultery; that is, idolatry)

 

Dr. Constable's Notes on Ezekiel , page 113

 

The Lord commanded a group of soldiers to attack these cities and to

terrorize and plunder them. These invaders would stone the guilty (the

punishment for adulterers and murderers in the Mosaic Law), slay them

and their children with their swords, and burn their houses.

 

Source: http://www.soniclight.com/constable/notes/pdf/ezekiel.pdf 

 

 

Why do innocent childeren have to be slay (as punishment) for the crimes (murder, adultery, idol worshipping) commited by their parents?  Do you call this righteous dear christian ?

 

Even those slayers of innocent children are called righteous men in the bilbe!

 

 

The Difference between Islam and christianity regarding rules of war

 

 

Why would it be fair to kill innocent pregnant women and unborn babies, even if the men of samaria murdered innocent pregnant women, why would it be fair for god to punish the innocent pregnant women and their unborn innocent babies (who can never be guilty of any sin or held  responsible for any crime), why does god according to the bible not spare innocent lives in matters of war or punishment?

 

Why repent evil with evil? Let’s look at the big difference between islam and christianity regarding this point:

 

Repelling evil with good in Islam:

Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran commands us to return the evil that is done to us by others to not only with good, but with best!. 

Let us look at Noble Verse 13:22 "Those who patiently persevere, seeking the countenance of their Lord; establish regular prayers; spend out of (the gifts) We have bestowed for their sustenance, secretly and openly; and turn off evil with good: for such there is the final attainment of the (Eternal) Home."

Let us look at Noble Verse 23:96 "Repel evil with that which is best: We are Well-acquainted with the things they say."

Let us look at Noble Verse 41:34 "Nor can goodness and evil be equal.  Repel (evil) with that is better: Then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and intimate!."

Let us look at Noble Verse 28:54 "Twice will they be given their reward, for that they have persevered, that they avert evil with good, and that they spend (in charity) out of what We have given them."

Let us look at Noble Verse 42:40 "The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allah: for (Allah) Loveth not those who do wrong."

Allah Almighty loves those who restrain anger: "Those who spend (freely), whether in prosperity, or in adversity; who restrain anger, and pardon (all) men; for Allah loves those who do good.  (The Noble Quran, 3:134)"

Whether people speak evil of you, in your presence or behind your back, or they do evil to you in either of those ways, all is known to Allah Almighty.  It is not for you to punish.  Your best course is not to do evil in your turn, but to do what will best repel the evil.  Two evils do not make a good.

You do not return good for evil, for there is no equality or comparison between the two.  You repel or destroy evil with something which is far better, just as an antidote is better than poison.  You foil hatred with love.  You repel ignorance with knowledge, folly and wickedness with the friendly message of Revelation.  The man who was in bondage of sin, you not only liberate from sin, but make him your greatest friend and helper in the cause of Allah Almighty!.  Such is the alchemy of the Word of Allah Almighty!.  Your credit for returning evil with good and paying for charity is double.  Also if you forgive and return the evil with good, then Allah Almighty will love you and reward you.

 

Islam forbids the killing of innocent lives (women and children)

 

 

Noble Verse 5:32 "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people..." 

 

In this Noble Verse we clearly see that Allah Almighty honors all the innocent souls that He created. Killing any innocent soul is so hated by Allah Almighty that He considers it as a crime against all of Mankind. According to the bible however in Hosea 13:16 , innocent pregnant women and unborn babies have to be killed to fullfill Gods punishment.

 

Noble Verses 2:190-191 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

 

Despite all the hard conditions that the Muslims faced, Allah Almighty still ordered them "...not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors."

 

 

 

Sunnah of prophet Muhammed (saw) (he forbade the killing of innocents) :


Ibn `Abbas says: The Messenger of Allah, when dispatching his troops, would tell them, " ..Do not behave treacherously, nor misappropriate war-booty, nor mutilate [those whom you kill], nor kill children, nor the people in cloisters." [Narrated by Ahmad, Tirmidhi (who graded it hasan sahih ]).

Another contains, "…Do not kill a woman, nor a child, nor an old, aged man’ [Narrated by Baghawi, through his isnad [Sharh al-Sunnah, 11/11]. He said, "This is an authentic hadith, narrated by Muslim.]

It is narrated by Ibn 'Umar that a woman was found killed in one of these battles; so the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) forbade the killing of women and children. [Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4320]

You are neither hard-hearted nor of fierce character, nor one who shouts in the markets. You do not return evil for evil, but excuse and forgive." [Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 362]

Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Go in Allah's name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of Allah's Apostle. Do not kill a decrepit old man, o a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well.  (Sunan Abu Dawud , Book 14, Number 2608)

 
Another contains, "…Do not kill a woman, nor a child, nor an old, aged man…" [Narrated by Baghawi, through his isnad [Sharh al-Sunnah, 11/11]]

Another contains, "Do not kill a child, nor a woman, nor an old man, nor obliterate a stream, nor cut a tree…" [ Narrated by Bayhaqi,vide I`la al-Sunan, 12/31 ]

'Avoid the seven ruinous [sins] … associating partners with Allah, sorcery, unrightfully taking life which Allah has prohibited , consuming riba, consuming the property of an orphan, fleeing on the day of marching [in battle], and accusing a chaste, oblivious believing woman of adultery (Narrated by Bukhari, Muslim, Nasa'i, Abu Dawud)

 

Ibn `Umar said, "Allah curses the one who does this. Verily, the Messenger of Allah cursed the one who takes something with a soul as a target." [Narrated by Muslim via Ibn `Umar as quoted, and by Nasa'i via 2 routes (Ibn `Umar and Ibn `Abbas)]

 

Another version says, "The Messenger of Allah forbade taking something with a soul as a target."[Narrated by Tirmidhi (who graded it hasan sahih).and Ahmad, via Ibn `Abbas. Both of them included mention of Ibn `Abbas witnessing an incident involving a pigeon, similar to that witnessed by Ibn `Umar as in the preceding narration.]

 

 

Allah curses the one who takes something with a soul as a target (Narrated by Ahmad, through a sound, contiguous chain of transmitters (Hushaym-Abu Bishr-Sa`id ibn Jubayr-Ibn `Umar)

 

 

Any honest christian should carefully compare these narrations with the bible:

 

 

In The Bible we read :

 

Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.(Numbers 31:17-18)"


1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

 

 

All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman. (From the NIV Bible, 2 Chronicles 15:13)

 

 

 

 

 

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