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Holy Spirit or Rolling the Dice?

Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times. Trinity is a lie from Hell.

When it came to collecting money, the Holy Spirit was all over the place (Acts 5). But when it came to selecting the 12th disciple, they had to roll the dice to pick Matthias via a game of chance. And they lied on GOD Almighty and said that the result of the casting of the lots was from GOD Almighty. But the Holy Spirit was supposedly there from the first place. So why couldn't It just speak Matthias' name and be done with it? Why the game of chance at all? We read:

Matthew 10:20
for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

Mark 13:11
Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.

VS.

Acts 1
23 So they nominated two men: Joseph called Barsabbas (also known as Justus) and Matthias.
24 Then they prayed, “Lord, you know everyone’s heart. Show us which of these two you have chosen
25 to take over this apostolic ministry, which Judas left to go where he belongs.”
26 Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles.

They rolled the dice while dismally failing to just speak Matthias' name. And we're talking about choosing the Prince of the 12th Divine Throne? As if that is not important enough for the Holy Spirit?

The New Testament's confusing, incoherent and oxymoronic statements had caused for sinful things to become lawful and for lawful things to become sinful, and for pious believers to be considered disbelievers, and for disbelievers and hypocrites to be considered pious believers. This in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty. The New Testament gives warnings about the infestation of existing false prophets and messiahs [1] at the time.

See also Daniel 7:25 prophecy about the false king will change time and the Law. Christians often use the shallow claim about Christianity passed the test of time, and that the calendar that we use is based on Jesus' birth. But this exactly fulfills this prophecy. Time has changed and the Law has been thoroughly violated. The false tongue of problematic hyperboles has caused for the forbidden to become lawful and for the lawful to become forbidden:

Daniel 7:25
25 He shall speak words against the Most High,
and shall wear out the saints of the Most High,
and shall think to change the times and the law;
and they shall be given into his hand
for a time, times, and half a time.

GOD Almighty in the OT also sends lying spirits to the false prophets and their followers to help them grow their lies and misleading. See also Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).

See also the ample prophecies about the new covenant and new Servant will come from the desert of Kedar and Teman in Arabia [2]. Prophet Muhammad was even mentioned by the name in the found Dead Sea scrolls:

Example of casting lots practice by Christians:

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Promised a lie?

1- Why couldn't the Holy Spirit say GOD Almighty Chose Matthias? Were they not filled with the Holy Spirit:

Mark 13:11
Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 10:20
for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

Them rolling the dice to choose the twelfth disciple certainly makes this promise a clear lie. None of them could just speak the name Matthias? And again, we're talking about choosing the Prince of the 12th Divine Throne? As if that is not important enough. So much for the Holy Spirit would be speaking through their mouths and not their butts.

When it came to collecting money from the masses on daily basis, the Holy Spirit was always there for all of them (Acts 5), as we also see below in the article:

Acts 5
Ananias and Sapphira
1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened.
6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.

So here we have a man who sold a piece of his property and donated some of it for the cause of GOD Almighty. What was the answer to his charitable deed? His heart is filled with satan because he didn't give all of the money of the property's sale. So obviously, all of the Christians today, world-wide without any exception, are liars whose hearts are filled with satan, because they all have possessions and properties that they hold on to. Even Jesus contradicted this evil practice of subjugating salvation with giving up all of your money when he demanded from rich people to give up all of their wealth and become poor, and then contradicted that with blessing a rich man for only giving up half of his wealth and remaining rich. Meanwhile, GOD Almighty only ordered rich people to pay 10% of their profits in the Law that Jesus supposedly didn't come to abolish:

Matthew 5:17
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

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GOD vs. Jesus: 10% vs. half vs. whole [1], Subjugating Salvation by money [1].



Too much emphasis on money, and oxymoronic contradictions [1].

The NT has unsettled open debates that their "Holy Spirit" dismally failed to settle for them, such as must the long list of 600+ Jewish Laws be upheld and followed or not?> Also, conflicts rose on whether one can eat Kosher meat or not, must men get circumcised, can one eat food offered to idols, and many other issues that the disciples fought each other on.

   Look at the irony here: When it came to collecting money, the Holy Spirit was all over the place. But when it came to selecting the 12th disciple, they had to roll the dice to pick Matthias by a game of chance. And they lied on GOD Almighty and said that the result of the casting of the lots was from GOD Almighty. But the Holy Spirit was SUPPOSEDLY THERE from the first place! So why couldn't It just speak Matthias' name and be done with it?

The NT warns about false messiahs and apostles misleading people.

Shortly after Jesus, 10s of false messiahs and prophets emerged.

The NT was written between 80 to 300 years after Jesus' departure, long after the originals had all been dead. This makes the frauds in the NT clear suspect.

Unknown dates and authors? [1]

Keep in mind also that shortly after Jesus, 10s of false messiahs and prophets emerged. Below, you'll see that the Bible's books and gospels were:

Do contain alterations, fables and man-made injections in them.
Written by mysterious men.
Written by an unknown number of men.
Written in unknown places.
Written in unknown dates.

Paul never even met Jesus Christ in person while the latter was on earth. It is falsely claimed that Jesus appeared to Paul while Paul was on his way to Damascus after the "crucifixion" (Acts 9:2-4. Note: Paul's name used to be Saul. Yet, Paul admittedly wasn't even sure whether the Holy Spirit was inspirning him or not).

None of the disciples, even in the false writings attributed to them, ever claimed that their writings were inspired or Divine. Not only that, but we even ironically see that:

Luke for instance, wrote his "gospel" for the sake of another person and not GOD Almighty. See below for details.

The disciples even fought with each others [1] [2].

We read about direct invitations to dinner and other occasions between the disciples in the "books" [1].

According to the commentaries below, all of the books of the bible were altered and corrupted.

The Bible's own theologians even admit that the bible contains "fictions", its original manuscripts "had been lost", and contains "fairy tails and fables".

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Just who were the real authors of the Bible?

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Deuteronomy 4:2 clearly declares that the Bible is corrupt! Also, which "Book" is the People of the Book?

The best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam? Covers the Hijacked Bible in great details.

Christianity is a lie that grew as a rolling snow ball. Allah Almighty allows the doomed-to-Hell infidels to thrive and prosper in their lies here in this life, because it is theirs and not ours. Our life is the Hereafter in Heaven, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

2 Corinthians 13:3
since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you.

In other words, no proof could be provided at this time.

Romans 9:1
I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit—

1 Corinthians 7:40
40 But in my opinion [a widow] is happier (more blessed and to be envied) if she does not remarry. And also I think I have the Spirit of God.

Your conscience confirms it? And you think you may have the Holy Spirit? You don't know? When I see the sun during a bright day, I need no conscience to see it, nor do I think that I see it. I clearly see it. It's there physically loud and clear before my very eyes. I don't need feel-good-victimhood goosebumps delusions to confirm it. In court, an eye witness doesn't say he's unsure or he thinks he saw something if he/she is to be considered a credible witness. This fraud was in it for the money. So making up lies on GOD Almighty via these fraudulent claims and feelings is clear blasphemy. More delusions and lies, especially when he declared that he lifted actual mountains: The Bible's metaphoric resurrections, and Paul lifting mountains.

Peter vs. Paul:

Galatians 2:11-12
11 Furthermore, when Kefa came to Antioch, I opposed him publicly, because he was clearly in the wrong.
12 For prior to the arrival of certain people from [the community headed by] Ya‘akov, he had been eating with the Gentile believers; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, because he was afraid of the faction who favored circumcising Gentile believers.

VS.

Mark 13:11
Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 10:20
for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

So were they opposing the Holy Spirit in their conflicts? There are open debates that remained unsettled between the disciples in the NT. Yet, they were promised that it would be the Holy Spirit that would be speaking through their mouths, and not them. Or were they all just a bunch of frauds that were in it for the money? That without the money none of them would even be known?

Paul calls the Bible fables and lies:

Titus 1:10-16
10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Jewish fables and commandments of men? The Jewish law is filled with commandments and traditions that GOD Almighty supposedly revealed to Moses. Among those is the law of circumcision:

Leviticus 12:3
3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.

Exodus 12:48
And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Notice how Paul called these commandments "Jewish fables, and commandments of men". Yet, they are supposed to be GOD Almighty's Divine Revelations to Moses. This is not about abrogation. This is clear denial of the truthfulness of the verses above, - that they are nothing more than man-made lies and fables. So here we have the following clash:

1- The Jewish Law contains fables and commandments of men.

2- The Jewish law contains lies on GOD Almighty.

3- The Jewish law is doubtful and corrupt.

4- Jesus lied when he said that he did not come to abolish the Jewish law, but to fulfill it. He obviously did not come to abolish the man-made lies and fables:

Matthew 5:17
The Fulfillment of the Law
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5- In Paul's world Jesus was a liar. Also in Paul's world, the teachings of the disciples were false and bewitchment:

Galatians 3:1-2
Faith or Works of the Law
1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.
2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?

For more, please visit: The disciples had conflicts with each other.

6- There is nothing called "Bible". It is not a Divine Book from GOD Almighty, since it is a book that is filled with lies and corruption, even according to itself.

Again, see also Daniel 7:25 prophecy about the false king will change time and the Law. Christians often use the shallow claim about Christianity passed the test of time, and that the calendar that we use is based on Jesus' birth. But this exactly fulfills this prophecy. Time has changed and the Law has been thoroughly violated. The false tongue of problematic hyperboles has caused for the forbidden to become lawful and for the lawful to become forbidden:

GOD Almighty in the OT also sends lying spirits to the false prophets and their followers to help them grow their lies and misleading. See also Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).

Fabricated Bible:

Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran about the fabricated Bible:

"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

Islam's Divine Miracles:

Overwhelming Scientific Miracles.

Amazing Prophecies.

Quran Miracle: The Jews' and Christians' scribes changed and still change the Words. Proven with images, text and videos from their corrupt bible and books! See how they removed words and altered words.

Acts 13:52
And the disciples were filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit.

Acts 2:4
All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.

Acts 4:31
After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.

2- Why did they have to roll the dice (cast lot) to randomly select Matthias?

"Is casting lots gambling?

Casting lots or Drawing of lots may refer to: Cleromancy, a form of divination. Lottery, a form of gambling that involves the drawing of numbers for a prize. Sortition, the practice of randomly selecting political officials from a larger pool of candidates." (Source, 2)

3- Isn't this also a form of promoting and/or legitimizing gambling and sorcery and future telling through rolling the dice nonsense, since in the Bible the roll of dice was not only legitimate, but it determined the 12th disciples to replace Judas!

4- So any delusional fool out there could pray in the Name of the Lord and cast lots and whatever the result is is from GOD Almighty??

5- And who will sit at the Throne in the End? Matthias or Judas?

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Holy Spirit or rolling the dice to choose the 12th disciple?

Jesus' problematic hyperboles: Confusing, incoherent and oxymoronic language falsely caused for the sinful to become lawful, and for the lawful to become sinful.

Why was the 12th disciple selected via rolling the dice? Is Gambling allowed in Christianity?

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses that prove trinity is a lie.

Bible corruption and contradictions.

The disciples had conflicts with each other.

Holy Spirit only for Money:

When it came to Collecting Money, the Holy Spirit was all over the place. You'll need to read Acts, chapters 3 thru 6. But here is an example:

Acts 5
Ananias and Sapphira
1 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land?
4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened.
6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.

The NT has unsettled open debates that their "Holy Spirit" dismally failed to settle for them, such as must the long list of 600+ Jewish Laws be upheld and followed or not?> Also, conflicts rose on whether one can eat Kosher meat or not, must men get circumcised, can one eat food offered to idols, and many other issues that the disciples fought each other on.

Look at the irony here: When it came to collecting money, the Holy Spirit was all over the place. But when it came to selecting the 12th disciple, they had to roll the dice to pick Matthias by a game of chance. And they lied on GOD Almighty and said that the result of the casting of the lots was from GOD Almighty. But the Holy Spirit was SUPPOSEDLY THERE from the first place! So why couldn't It just speak Matthias' name and be done with it?? The reason this didn't happen is:

1- Because they didn't have the Holy Spirit.

2- They couldn't agree on which candidate to choose as the twelfth disciple, because their heads were empty and were never filled with the Holy Spirit.

3- GOD Almighty would NEVER speak through rolling dice garbage, because it would only add more suspicion and confusion. It undercuts the credibility of the disciples.

4- The authors of the Bible have lied on Jesus and his disciples and their history. Even the Bible's own theologians and historians admit that the Bible's books and gospels:

(a)- Were written by unknown people.
(b)- In unknown places.
(c)- In unknown dates.
(d)- By unknown number of people.

I've provided ample quotes on almost every single gospel and book at: www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm.

Fabricating books:

Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

Islam's Divine Miracles:

All Thanks, Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty for the Favor of Islam, I don't have to believe in hoaxes! The Glorious Quran is thoroughly proven to be a Divine Miracle from Allah Almighty. See the Glorious Quran's:

Overwhelming Scientific Miracles.

Amazing Prophecies.

Hoaxes written?

The above clearly demonstrates that there was no Holy Spirit inspiring the characters mentioned in the Bible's New Testament. I am not saying all of the NT is false, but most certainly much much of it is fabricated hoaxes. The most offensive one of them is the fact that they had to resort to rolling the dice to choose a disciples? And the result from the dice roll was from GOD?? This is no less than a blasphemy and an insult on:

1- GOD Almighty.
2- The Holy Spirit.
3- All human logic and intelligence.

Why even need to roll the dice (cast lot) when you are SUPPOSEDLY filled with the Holy Spirit?? After all, was it a Spirit or a spit that they were filled with? And was it GOD Almighty that made the descision or the random chance of casting lots?

Some important questions to consider:

Will Judas or Matthias sit at the Throne?
Is Gambling allowed in Christianity?
Why were the disciples disputing on the 12th disciple if the Holy Spirit was supposedly to the One who chose him?
Why did they have to "cast lot" (roll the dice) to choose him when the Holy Spirit was supposedly standing there to choose him?

Note: They rolled the dice (casted lot) because they were in dispute over whom to choose as the 12th disciple:

"Is casting lots gambling?

Casting lots or Drawing of lots may refer to: Cleromancy, a form of divination. Lottery, a form of gambling that involves the drawing of numbers for a prize. Sortition, the practice of randomly selecting political officials from a larger pool of candidates." (Source, 2)
So why were they in dispute if the Holy Spirit was supposedly there??
Wouldn't the dispute not be disputing, but rather blaspheming against the Holy Spirit? But then again, the Holy Spirit wasn't there to choose him. They lied and said It was there, and It did choose him. It was the roll of the dice (casting the lot) that determined the 12th disciple, not the Holy Spirit! Otherwise, why even roll the dice?
The disciples' martyrdom hoax is based on legends and false writings that were written centuries after Christ.
Titus wholesale slaughter of Israel and Jerusalem in year 70 AD created all kinds of martyrdom stories. And certainly many martyrdom stories were written in Israel and abroad. Every hero had to be martyred to further legitimize the cause. And so therefore, many fabricated stories were invented regarding the disciples to raise their heroism. Not only that, but all of the Bible's accounts are highly doubtful. The Bible's own theologians thoroughly admit this in all of the Bibles' commentaries.
The Bible in both the Old and New Testaments ***** declares that Jesus never died on the cross *****. This is exactly what Islam also declares! This is demonstrated below and also thoroughly demonstrated at:

What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?


Psalm 116:16 Jesus and his mother, Mary, both thanked GOD Almighty for saving Jesus from harm and death.


Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16 indisputably confirm that Jesus never got crucified. Both Jesus and satan even referenced them in the NT during their conversation.
All Thanks, Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty for the Favor of Islam, I don't have to believe in hoaxes! The Glorious Quran is thoroughly proven to be a Divine Miracle from Allah Almighty. See the Glorious Quran's:

Overwhelming Scientific Miracles.


Amazing Prophecies.


Quran Miracle: The Jews' and Christians' scribes changed and still change the Words. Proven with images, text and videos from their corrupt bible and books! See how they removed words and altered words.

As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

The Bible says that Jesus Christ had 12 disciples. They're all listed in Matthew 10 as follows:

1- Peter (also known as Simon).
2- Andrew.
3- James son of Zebedee.
4- John son of Zebedee.
5- Philip.
6- Bartholomew.
7- Thomas.
8- Matthew.
9- James son of Alphaeus.
10- Thaddaeus.
11- Simon the Zealot.
12- Judas Iscariot.

Just wondering here since we're told in the Bible's New Testament that Judas Iscariot, one of the 12 disciples, betrayed Jesus:

Matthew 26
17 On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?”
18 He replied, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.’”
19 So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover.
20 When evening came, Jesus was reclining at the table with the Twelve.
21 And while they were eating, he said, “Truly I tell you, one of you will betray me.”
22 They were very sad and began to say to him one after the other, “Surely you don’t mean me, Lord?”
23 Jesus replied, “The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me.
24 The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born.”
25 Then Judas, the one who would betray him, said, “Surely you don’t mean me, Rabbi?”
Jesus answered, “You have said so.”

Yet, Jesus when he started his ministry with the 12 (including Judas), he said this:

Matthew 19
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.
24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”
26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”
28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[e] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life.
30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

So, will Judas sit in one of the 12 Thrones? Or will he be condemned to Hell, since Jesus said woe to him, and it would've been better for him if he was never born. And if Judas will be condemned to Hell, then did Jesus lie when he promised Judas one of the 12 Thrones?

So what do you think?

So what do you, the reader, think? Am I way off? Where am I going wrong here? Is Holy Gambling allowed in Christianity? And was playing a game of chance necessary in choosing the twelfth disciple? Doesn't this prove that there was indeed a dispute amongst them on who should've been the 12th disciple? And since there was NO HOLY SPIRIT inspiring them, the only way to resolve this was to cast lots. Don't forget that Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will speak clearly to them without any confusion or riddle:

John 16
25 I have used examples to explain to you what I have been talking about. But the time will come when I will speak to you plainly about the Father and will no longer use examples like these.

So why couldn't Jesus here just SPEAK Matthias' name to be the 12th disciple? Why the use of the game of chance? Does it not render him useless and pointless when using it to determine who will be the winner (12th disciple)? The point of Jesus' promise of speaking clearly and plainly and directly without riddles or examples to his disciples was to prevent any and all confusion. Yet, we see here a silly game of chance determining a very important issue in Christianity! The determination of the 12th disciple should not be done by:

1- Voting among the disciples.

2- Or playing a game of chance among the disciples.

This is a thing that GOD Almighty supposedly has to decide for Himself. After all this is disciple that WILL SIT AT THE THRONE OF GOD ALMIGHTY TO JUDGE THE ISRAELITES. So no game of chance should be allowed. Why use it when they supposedly had the Holy Spirit speaking clearly and plainly and directly to them? Doesn't this look like a fabricated lie on GOD Almighty to you?? It sure stinks like a rotten dead flesh to me!

Were the disciples martyred?

Some might answer the above objections by saying that yes GOD Almighty chose the game of chance to determine the 12th disciple, and the proof for this is the fact that the disciples were all or most martyred in the cause of spreading Christianity. So therefore, since they died for what they believed in, then they certainly have died for something they very strongly believed was the Truth. And since they all or many of them did it, then this could not have been a fabricated lie.

Response:

1- There is not one confirmed fact that any of the disciples was martyred for his belief. All of these claims of martyrdoms were written by Church fathers in the 3rd and 4th century. That's at least 200 years after Jesus' departure.

"Summary: The Bible only mentions the deaths of two apostles, James who was put to death by Herod Agrippa I in 44 AD and Judas Iscariot who committed suicide shortly after the death of Christ. The details of the deaths of three of the apostles (John, the Beloved, Bartholomew and Simon the Canaanite) are not known at all, either by tradition or early historians. The deaths of the other seven apostles are known by tradition or the writings of early Christian historians. According to traditions and the Bible, eight of the Apostles died as Martyrs. At least two of the Apostles, Peter and Andrew were crucified." (Source)

2- The Bible declares that Jesus never died:

It is worth noting that the Bible's Old and New Testaments both declare that Jesus never died. The following was taken from: What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?:

Important Note: Islam declares that the Lord Jesus the Messiah (Al-Sayyed Isa Al-Maseeh in Arabic) was neither crucified nor killed. The points below are to further demonstrate that even the Bible's accounts do not agree that Jesus Christ died.

Then, I'd prove to them that the crucifixion never happened, and Jesus never died on the cross even according to the Bible Itself, even according to Isaiah 53 itself. Also, see how Psalm 91 (satan and Jesus had a detailed conversation about this one in the NT), and Psalm 116, 117 and 118 also declare that Christ will never get crucified.

Psalm 116:16 Jesus and his mother, Mary, both thanked GOD Almighty for saving Jesus from harm and death.

Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16 indisputably confirm that Jesus never got crucified. Both Jesus and satan even referenced them in the NT during their conversation.

Jesus Christ, never got crucified, nor was he ever killed. The Noble Quran declares this. Also, many passages with ample evidence from the Bible's Old and New Testaments, and also many more outside the Bible, clearly prove that:

Jesus never died.
He rested for 3 days in the cave, which was his so-called "tomb", which was above the ground and was not a grave, nor a coffin. It was an open cave, and he rested on the floor in it. He was healed and massaged with medicine. And ultimately, he un-wound his winding sheets, and exited the cave in his original physical body alive. This is how he "ROSE" from the so-called "dead". He never actually died. He's always been physically alive and receiving massaging, and medical treatment, during those three days, according to the New Testament's accounts itself. The problem with the Bible is that it LOOSELY uses words and terms such as God, Son, Rise from the Dead, Death, etc... The following debate explains all of this in great details from the Bible, and proves that Jesus never died:

Was Jesus Christ Crucified?


At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
this debate and destroyed Christianity!

This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never
crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour
debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.




Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die. Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91. Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.

shortened version video. Dr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones. But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video. See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.

According to the NT's accounts themselves (Luke 24:1-8, Mark 15:40-47, Mark 16:1-8, John 19:38-42, John 20:1-29), Jesus Christ was NEVER buried underground. He was placed in a rich man's tomb (a cave like a bear's or mountain lion's cave) for three days above the ground, laying on the floor there.


See also this text-debate between me and a Christian brother on my
blog. You're welcomed to join in.

He received medicine and massaging from Mary Magdalene and others during this time. He then "rose up from the dead" and left the tomb (cave).

1- Notice in Luke 24:1, the women came to the tomb with medicine and found Jesus gone. If he was already dead, they would have no reason to bring this to dead Jesus. But Jesus was alive and was receiving medical treatment.

2- Also, notice in John 20:15, Mary Magdalene thought Jesus was a gardener, after he healed and rose back up.

3- And in John 20:17, Jesus was still in pain, he told Mary Magdalene "touch me not!".

4- And in John 20:19-29, Jesus showed his original body to the disciples, and they checked it.

Jesus Christ:

Never actually died. He has always been alive in the tomb receiving medical treatment.

He was never buried underground, or in a coffin. He was laid on the floor, alive.

Dr. Zakir Naik provided many more verses during his 3-hour debate. Again, the above points were taken from my shortened version video. And again, see also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.

I also added a new video "Rose from the Dead" is an old Semitic idiom even before Christianity (7 minutes long). I used video clips, proverbs and verses that thoroughly demonstrated how the term was commonly used for people who survived fatal injuries or accidents, or survived very dangerous situations and close calls. Also, I proved that the Bible also uses this term metaphorically. Did you know for example that in the following verse, Isaac was said to have risen from the dead:

Hebrews 11:19
19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.

Yet, Isaac wasn't physically dead. Similarly, we also find in all of the world's civilizations, terms such as "A cat has 9 lives" and others. This also metaphorically refers to the person "coming back to life", or "rising from the dead" many times due to his luck.

Another brief video that demonstrates from the Bible's Old and New Testaments that Jesus Christ never got crucified.

From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm:

The Bible's metaphoric resurrections:

Jeremiah 8:1
At that time, saith the Lord, they shall bring out the bones of the kings of Judah, and the bones of his princes, and the bones of the priests, and the bones of the prophets, and the bones of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of their graves:

Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

Matthew 27
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

There is no historical record of any resurrected person recorded in Palestine or anywhere in the world. People in Palestine were tribal, and everyone knew everyone. If people resurrected from the dead, then their people and tribes would immediately known about it, and consequently this would've spread all over Palestine and even the Middle East, because this miracle would've been COLOSSAL! So either the claim was a fabricated lie or it was metaphorical. Either way it is a lie, because there are no records that exist for it, and it is a source for deception and confusion.

Matthew 10:7-8
7 As you go, announce that the kingdom of heaven will soon be here.
8 Heal the sick, raise the dead to life, heal people who have leprosy, and force out demons. You received without paying, now give without being paid.

This loose text sounds like: Heal the sick, raise the dead, buy some groceries, ....

This is like a Christian missionary, for example, saying that he preached the gospel to many people this past week, and he raised several people from the dead, and moved mountains. This statement would obviously be deceptive, because he would not have literally done these things. But yet, we find this statement about Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead, and Paul having the ability to move mountains [1] (1 Corinthians 13:2). But again, not a single historical record exists for this. Making it sound literal is deceptive.

Uprooting a tree:

If the following is not a lie, then what is it?

Luke 17:6
6 He replied, “If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it will obey you.

It will obey you?! No man in history, including Jesus himself, was ever able to perform this miracle.

How come none of you can perform a single Miracle? Yet, Jesus and Paul (below) guaranteed to all believers that they can. Yet, throughout history, no one could uproot a tree or a mountain. Are your bible's miracle-stories fables like Cinderella, Snow White and the seven dwarfs, Red Robin and the wolf, and the big bad wolf and the three little piggies? Can you make a tree be uprooted?


Mustard seed faith?

And what is this "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed" nonsense? Even atheists and agnostics have this kind of faith. Everyone who has doubt has a mustard seed of faith in them. Even the cursed satan has a mustard seed faith in him. And if no one could perform these fable-miracles, then basically every single Christian ever existed on earth is a disbeliever, including Jesus, for he could not uproot a tree or a mountain.

Moving a mountain:

Matthew 17:20
And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Matthew 21:21
Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

Mark 11:23
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

1 Corinthians 13:2
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

No man in history, including Jesus himself, - let alone Paul the proven charlatan, - was ever able to move a mountain. And no surprise here, there is not a single historical record for these verses' claims.

A super high mountain?

Luke 4:5
And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

1- Super high mountains do not exist in the Middle East.

2- The earth is spherical. Even the highest mountain on earth couldn't reveal all of the real estate of earth.

3- Unless this is 100% a metaphorical statement, despite the fact that the text is speaking in the literal sense of Jesus actually physically going up a high mountain and actually seeing all of the kingdoms of the world, then this verse is obviously scientifically false.

Why is the high mountain mentioned here? Why is it relevant?

Drinking Poison?

Mark 16:18
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

The Bible is filled with emotional and empty metaphors that confuse its believers into thinking that it is real. No Christian could ever prove this verse's claim to be true. And this verse is speaking about all believers. So any ordinary Christian Joe can do this. Yet, none can. Are all Christians disbelievers now?

Hebrews 11:19
19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death (Isaac wasn't physically dead).

Metaphoric graves and death:

Luke 11:44
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.

Exodus 14:11
And they said unto Moses, Because there were no graves in Egypt, hast thou taken us away to die in the wilderness? wherefore hast thou dealt thus with us, to carry us forth out of Egypt?

John 5:28
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Only decayed dead flesh exist in the graves, which will completely turn into dust. This verse is obviously metaphorical.

Crucifixion refuted in 3 minutes!

Psalm 116:16 Jesus and his mother, Mary, both thanked GOD Almighty for saving Jesus from harm and death.

Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16 indisputably confirm that Jesus never got crucified. Both Jesus and satan even referenced them in the NT during their conversation.

Brother Yahya makes this short youtube video of where he
posted a short clip from my debate with Nabeel Qureshi with
his (brother Yahya's) commentary. This brief video gives
good short refutation to the crucifixion hoax. The video can also
be downloaded here.

The above was taken from https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm.

3- Not only that, but Israel has faced a major wholesale slaughter by Titus and his army in year 70 AD. So many had died just for being Jews. And all of the disciples of Jesus were Jewish. And certainly many martyrdom stories were written in Israel and abroad. Every hero had to be martyred to further legitimize the cause. And so therefore, many fabricated stories were invented regarding the disciples to raise their heroism. Not only that, but all of the Bible's accounts are highly doubtful. The Bible's own theologians thoroughly admit this in all of the Bibles' commentaries:

The Bible's books and gospels, according to its own translators and theologians, were

Do contain alterations, fables and man-made injections in them.
Written by mysterious men.
Written by an unknown number of men.
Written in unknown places.
Written in unknown dates.
Paul never even met Jesus Christ in person while the latter was on earth. It is falsely claimed that Jesus appeared to Paul while Paul was on his way to Damascus after the "crucifixion" (Acts 9:2-4. Note: Paul's name used to be Saul. Yet, Paul admittedly wasn't even sure whether the Holy Spirit was inspiring him or not).
None of the disciples, even in the false writings attributed to them, ever claimed that their writings were inspired or Divine. Not only that, but we even ironically see that:

Luke for instance, wrote his "gospel" for the sake of another person and not GOD Almighty. See below for details.

The disciples even fought with each others [1] [2].

We read about direct invitations to dinner and other occasions between the disciples in the "books" [1].

According to the commentaries below, all of the books of the bible were altered and corrupted.

The Bible's own theologians even admit that the bible contains "fictions", its original manuscripts "had been lost", and contains "fairy tails and fables".
And, it is also an indisputable fact that the Bible:
1. Is filled with ample contradictions, man's alterations, corruption, and false scientific absurdities.
2. Is written in third-party narrations, which is why we find in all of the gospels' titles "This gospel according to....", and countless verses that speak about the disciples and about their activities in third-party narrations [1] [2] [3] [4], which proves that the books and gospels were certainly not written by them.
  
  This also means that much gossips and exaggerations and fabrications were made up and inserted into the books and gospels. So even if, for instance, some people back then thought that Jesus was crucified, they in reality never actually saw it. It could very well be that they've only heard about it from a neighboring town and believed it. There are certainly in the books and gospels:
  
  Too much gossips.
  
  Too wide of date gaps by the decades [1] [2] [3] [4] between when the supposed event took place and when it was actually written, by hand, in the corrupt gospels.
  
  Too many unknown people wrote the stories.
  
  Too many Prophecies in the Old Testament that promise that Jesus Christ, the Messiah, will be saved from the crucifixion.
  
  Too many mistranslations and desperate misinterpretations in Isaiah 53 and elsewhere.
  
  This also means that the books and gospels were definitely not inspired by GOD Almighty. Paul, again, even admits that he had his delusions and doubts.

So now based on what objective grounds should we reject the claim about the Bible's New Testament's accounts being mostly false and fabricated by men?

4- Islam's Divine Miracles:

Overwhelming Scientific Miracles.

Amazing Prophecies.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [2]

Satan turned Jesus into King Kong by making him climb the castle-like temple to commit suicide.

Note: We Muslims believe that Prophet Isa (Jesus), peace be upon him, is a Messenger of Allah Almighty and His Messiah. We also believe he was born from the Virgin Marium (Mary), peace be upon her. We revere, love and respect Isa and his mother, Marium. But Isa being our Creator? Absolute NO! This is total blasphemy that was invented by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.

Bible's OT and NT declare Jesus was never crucified:

Psalm 116:16 Jesus and his mother, Mary, both thanked GOD Almighty for saving Jesus from harm and death.

Isaiah 53:10 and Psalm 91:16 indisputably confirm that Jesus never got crucified. Both Jesus and satan even referenced them in the NT during their conversation.

Questions about Jesus prove he is not GOD.

Which Jesus was released and which was crucified? There were two Jesuses with Pontus Pilot. Not just one.

Matthew 24:25-27: Jesus will return as an Arab from Syria. Mentioned in the Bible and Islam.

What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?

A Conversation I had with a Muslim convert regarding the crucifixion lie.

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [2]

Matthew 24:25-27: Jesus will return as an Arab from Syria.

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

This Prophecy is a lie! Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
left. He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried. Also, because 100s
of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down. The soldiers were
even denied food due to lack of time.
Jesus never got crucified: [1] [2] [3] [4]. The OT and NT clearly spell it out. He was saved.

Matthew 27:16-17: There were two Jesuses! Not one. Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

‏[004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
[004:157] That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) know ledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
[004:158] Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-

Was Jesus Christ Crucified?


At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
this debate and destroyed Christianity!

This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never
crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour
debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.




Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die. Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91. Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.

Here is my shortened version video. Dr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones. But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video. See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog. You're welcomed to join in.

The two double-Jesus men & Pontus Pilate in Matthew 27:16-17:

According to the Gospel of Matthew, Pontus Pilate was standing between two double-Jesus men:

1- Jesus Barabbas.
2- Jesus Barabbas.

Yes, both were called "Jesus Barabbas" (Matthew 27:16-17). Barabbas (/bəˈræbəs/; Aramaic: ישוע בר אבא‎ Bar ʾAbbaʾ, literally "son of the father"). The first Jesus Barabba was a Jewish revolutionist who killed Roman soldiers to free his people. The second one is our Jesus Christ. Both had no known biological fathers.

In the Middle East, if a person's father is unknown, they call him "son of his/your father". This title is also used for great warriors and great achievers. Such heroes would be called by the people: "You are indeed the son of your father!", since the hero is his father's seed. Bastards are also called that (son of your/his father), and not "bastard", to not immediately sound insulting to them.

A Divine set up for Conjecture: [2, 1, html]

It is no coincidence that Pilate was standing between two almost "identical twins" in names and most probably in looks too, on the same day and hour and minute. You could not have planned it! Two strangers who were exact in names and most possibly in looks, were to get crucified on the same day and same hour. Not that the first one is in February and the other in September. No:

1. Same year.
2. Same month.
3. Same day.
4. Same hour.
5. Same exact name.
6. Same looks.

GOD Almighty in the OT also sends lying spirits to the false prophets and their followers to help them grow their lies and misleading. See also Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). Christianity is a war on GOD Almighty and a polytheist trinitarian paganism.

Clear Divine Purpose played:

There is clearly a Divine Purpose in the event of the double-Jesus men. This was not a coincident! Ample passages and proofs are provided in the following links:

The Bible declares: Everyone was set up for conjecture [2]. See Matthew 27:16-17 and many other verses.

Roman's Law: Survive the cross = YOU LIVE! [2].

This conversation is further expanded on this website's blog [1, html backup].

Jesus' life will be extended:

Psalm 91, Isaiah 53, Psalms 116, 117, 118 all declare that Jesus will not be crucified.

Psalm 116:16: Jesus and his mother both thanked GOD for saving Jesus.

The cursed satan quoted Psalm 91 to Jesus challenging Jesus to jump off. Jesus simply told him that yes, while the promise of GOD Almighty to protect me from all harm and death is there, but the scripture also says: "Do not tempt GOD." The Bible is very clear about the crucifixion being a man-made lie: Psalm 91.

Isaiah 53: Jesus' life will be prolonged (extended). And he will be saved from all harm. His life will overpower death (Isaiah 53:12). Isaiah 53:10-11, GOD Almighty will prolong (extend) Jesus' life. Isaiah 53:8, the Hebrew says that Jesus will be thrown in jail, imprisoned.

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

Trinity is a Joke!

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [2]

What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?

Satan Christ? Of course Jesus is not the cursed satan! But, Jesus called Peter satan for telling Jesus that GOD would not allow Jesus to get hurt, crucified or killed "suffer many things". Yet, Jesus begged GOD to save him from crucifixion and all hurt. And the Psalms all prophesied about Jesus will be saved from death and all hurt: Psalm 91, Isaiah 53, Psalms 116, 117, 118. According to Islam, GOD Almighty honored Jesus' request and saved him. The gospel of Matthew even says that Pontus Pilot was standing between two Jesus Barabba (son of his father), one who killed Roman soldiers and the other is our innocent Messiah. Pilot opposed killed Jesus and Pilot's wife got sick and had a terrifying dream warning Pilot about the sin of killing Jesus. The two double-Jesus men & Pontus Pilate in Matthew 27:16-17: [2, 1, html]. So according to Christians, GOD Almighty DENIED Jesus' cries. But of course, according to Islam, GOD honored the cries of his beloved servant and creation, Isa (Jesus), and saved him. The OT even prophesied about Jesus and Mary begging GOD and Praising GOD for saving Jesus: Psalm 91, Isaiah 53, Psalms 116, 117, 118.

Isa (Jesus), the Islamic Messiah and creation of Allah Almighty, is NOT our Creator:

Jesus, in the Bible, said he does not know when the Hour will come, only GOD alone Knows, Jesus said.

Jesus said if he bears witness of himself he would be a liar.

Jesus prostrated on his face and prayed and begged GOD all night long to save him from crucifixion.

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Jesus was called slave of GOD in Old Testament.

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

King Kong Christ? [2] Satan made Jesus climb the fortress-like temple. And this is supposed to be the Creator of the Universe?

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Some Details:

The cursed satan QUOTED Psalm 91 to Jesus challenging Jesus to jump. Jesus simply told him that yes, while the promise of GOD Almighty to protect me from all harm and death is there, but the scripture also says:

"Do not tempt GOD."

The Bible is very clear about the crucifixion being a man-made lie:

www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_91.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm (Jesus and his mother both thanked GOD for saving Jesus)
www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm

Psalm 118 & Jesus the "stone":

Furthermore, we read in Psalm 118:

Psalm 117
17 I will not die but live, and will proclaim what the LORD has done.
18 The LORD has chastened me severely, but he has not given me over to death.
19 Open for me the gates of righteousness; I will enter and give thanks to the LORD.
20 This is the gate of the LORD through which the righteous may enter.
21 I will give you thanks, for you answered me; you have become my salvation.
22 The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; (See Matthew 21:42-43)

Yes, they beat the day lights out of Jesus (he never felt a thing), but he never died. He was never crucified. He was never given over to death. GOD Almighty saved him. I quoted Psalm 118:22 above for you to show you that the Psalm chapters and verses that I referenced are all talking about Jesus, and not anyone else.

Never felt a thing:

Again, Jesus never felt a thing. Clear proofs from the Bible and the Glorious Quran are given at:

www.answering-christianity.com/conversation_i_had_on_crucifixion_lie.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2428.msg11210.html#msg11210
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2428.msg10971.html#msg10971
www.answering-christianity.com/topic_2428.htm

Satan Christ?

Isa (Jesus), the Islamic Messiah and creation of Allah Almighty, is NOT our Creator:

Jesus, in the Bible, said he does not know when the Hour will come, only GOD alone Knows, Jesus said.

Jesus said if he bears witness of himself he would be a liar.

Jesus prostrated on his face and prayed and begged GOD all night long to save him from crucifixion.

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Jesus was called slave of GOD in Old Testament.

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will."

If it is possible?? Why are you backing down now??? I thought you were the brave King Kong that satan made out of you:

www.answering-christianity.com/king_kong.htm (Jesus: King of Kings or King Kong?)
www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm It is quite probable that satan even made Jesus masturbate! I am not joking around here.

So let me get this straight:

1- Jesus calls Peter a satan for telling Jesus that GOD Almighty would not allow Jesus to suffer.

2- Jesus himself begs GOD to save him from the crucifixion and all suffering?

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_hypocrite.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Our Creator?

And Jesus is supposed to be our Creator? Infidels bray too much, and their whole religion of conjecture, "Christianity", is all empty nonsense and lies.

The doomed-to-Hell infidels have nothing but garbage NT scriptures and lies.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

For more, please visit: Satan Christ?

Also, Paul was declared to be a false apostle and a liar by even some of the disciples in the New Testament. It is Islam's Christianity [1] [2] [3] [4] [5], and not the modern-day Christianity that is the Truth!

Also visit Prophet Muhammad's detailed section. Includes responses to many false charges.

Is it the Trinity Belief or the Trinity Club? Bill O'Reilly doubts Trinity
but still believes in it? How? (Click to play video)

Who was the sacrificed son? Isaac or Ishmael? Even the altered Bible thoroughly supports that it was Ishmael [1] in many passages. And in Islam there is no "El" (God) in names as in Ishmael or Gabriel in Hebrew? Is the GOD of Islam different? Allah Almighty allowed for His Holy Name to be shortened (as "El" in Ishmael, and Lillah for Li-Allah in the Quran, as in Alhamdulillah) in both Islam and Judaism [1].

In 2 Samuel 12:7-12, King David's wives were turned into ***** prostitutes by GOD Almighty ***** as a punishment for David's sins with Bathsheba. This means that GOD Almighty can create custom Laws for punishment even if they fully contradict GOD Almighty's Moral Code on morality and chastity. Also, seduction and raping of virgins isn't a physically punishable crime in the Bible in Deuteronomy 22:25-29, Exodus 22:16-17.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word ~~was God~~ was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2] [3])."

Doubting Thomas said "My Lord and my God" to Jesus. Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh. Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh. Jesus said he was greater than Moses. Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty. All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible. "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest. Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator. And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty. He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more. For ample more details, visit:

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [2]

What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why? [1] [2]

Jesus is Yahweh the Son? See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT, using Jesus' words himself!
Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?

Also visit:

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

Oxymoron Trinity: Jesus is the resurrection (John 11:25), but yet he doesn't know when the Hour of the resurrection will come (Matthew 24:36) [1], and he had to cry, weep and beg GOD to resurrect Lazarus back to life. And this proves he is our Creator? And how is he exactly The Resurrection? Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless.

John 5:30 "I cannot do anything on my own." And Jesus could not determine who gets to sit on his right and on his left in Heaven. Only GOD alone decides this, Jesus said.

Contradictions in Jesus' miracle-less miracles. Mustard seed of faith and Great Faith both still failed: [1].

Except GOD Alone! Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν. Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν. He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.

Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran? Yes. Here are several Noble Verses that do support it. Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD.

Doubting Thomas couldn't raise Jesus?? No way!! He raised many before (Matthew 10:7-8):

Thomas raised many people from the dead (Matthew 10:7-8). Yet, he and the disciples could not raise Jesus back to life after the crucifixion? Not only that, but they all fled, and Thomas became the "doubting Thomas" because he did not believe that the man who returned was Jesus. But did you not raise people from the dead already, Thomas? What happened there? You could've raised Jesus himself back to life with your own hands! Yet, it was impossible for you to believe that it was Jesus who returned? Why?

www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/arabs_no_longer_jews_dogs.htm

These alleged miracles are very loud! If you raise people from the dead, then the entire land of Palestine would've heard about it. Yet, nothing recorded historically about them. So do we have here loud miracles or loud lies?

Also, 1 John 2:22 church-written lie is discussed further down in details in this table. Ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers.

Doubting Thomas also said "My Lord and my God" to Jesus. Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:

Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh. Jesus said he was greater than Moses. Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28). Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty. All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible. "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest. Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator. And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty. He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more.

Except GOD Alone! Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν. Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν. He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.

Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion. Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits). King of kings for Jesus does not refer to the corrupt earthly kings and thieves. They were offered to Jesus before during his temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all. Jesus is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion. Other people in the OT were called King of kings also. So the title is not even unique to Jesus.

Contradictions in Jesus' miracle-less miracles. Mustard seed of faith and Great Faith both still failed: [1].

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

King Melchizedek [1]:

The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek". And who is Melchizedek? According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20).

Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.

Also, Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son. Son here means he is the Messiah. The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD. Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah. This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2]. He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard. He is also heir of GOD on earth only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD. See also:

Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

Oxymoron Trinity.

Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.

Again, could "Jesus" and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless. All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

Sun Chips oxymoron: The polytheist trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no more than servants raised to honour") with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air and making him the Creator of the Universe.

Jesus denied knowing when Judgment Day will come, and said I DON'T KNOW, ONLY GOD ALONE KNOWS!

1 John 2:22-23 [1] church-written lie are discussed further down in details in this table. Ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers.

For ample more details, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

Also, the Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam [1], and the Majestic "We" [1] [2] [3] [4]

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673
www.answering-christianity.com/john20_28.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles were unique)
www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

Adam is greater than Jesus:

Jesus forbade people from calling him "son of David" and "son of Abraham" (Muslims bless Abraham everyday. Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."). He said he is greater than them, and no one should call him son of any of these two servants of GOD Almighty. Yet, Jesus walked around and called himself son of Adam countless times:

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Oxymoron Trinity [1]:

Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times. Trinity is a lie from Hell.

Jesus is the resurrection (John 11:25), but yet does not know when the Hour of the resurrection will come (Matthew 24:36) [1], and he had to cry, weep and beg GOD to resurrect Lazarus back to life. And this proves he is our Creator? And how is he exactly The Resurrection? Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless. All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

In the OT, Elisha and many others also raised the dead:

2 Kings 4
32 Elisha arrived at the woman’s house and went straight to his room, where he saw the boy’s body on his bed.
33 He walked in, shut the door, and prayed to the Lord.
34 Then he got on the bed and stretched out over the dead body, with his mouth on the boy’s mouth, his eyes on his eyes, and his hand on his hands. As he lay there, the boy’s body became warm.
35 Elisha got up and walked back and forth in the room, then he went back and leaned over the boy’s body. The boy sneezed seven times and opened his eyes.
36 Elisha called out to Gehazi, “Have the boy’s mother come here.” Gehazi did, and when she was at the door, Elisha said, “You can take your son.”
37 She came in and bowed down at Elisha’s feet. Then she picked up her son and left.

Is Elisha and others like him now our Creator?

John 5:30 "I cannot do anything on my own."

And Jesus could not determine who gets to sit on his right and on his left in Heaven. Only GOD alone decides this, Jesus said. Visit also:

Bible's problematic hyperboles. Jesus has, for example, caused Christians to eat pork, and they're now even the world's biggest pork consumers. But a closer look at the text reveals that he never allowed it and could never even DARE to violate GOD Almighty by allowing it.

The last two chapters of the book of Isaiah make an End of Time Prophecy about the evil and immoral ones who will be pork (pig's meat) eaters.

The Bible has ample problems with its hyperbole and excessive confusing metaphoric language, to a point where we don't know what Jesus actually means, and it has made lawful things sinful and sinful things lawful. Interestingly, people in the NT called Jesus a fat drunk, because they observed him drinking too much wine (alcohol) and eating too much. He was a "gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matthew 11:19) [1] [2]. This could've played a major role in the nonsensical language that he was uttering left and right. Only Allah Almighty Knows best.

Ample more examples are given in the link above.

Did Jesus claim to be God? (8 minutes)

Video: 1, 2.
Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is
mentioned countless times in his scriptures. Also, Jesus was also called
"SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of
Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

Muslims honor the Virgin Birth:

We Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Isa Al-Maseeh, from our mother Mariam, peace be upon them both. We also believe Isa performed many Miracles. In fact, it was the Christians who doubted the virgin birth. Islam came to cement it. But Isa (eesa) was nonetheless a creation of GOD Almighty, and a slave of GOD. Even the Old Testament calls Jesus "Slave of GOD":

Islam cemented the virgin birth of Jesus! Christians doubted it. Christian scholars admit this.

Isa (Jesus), the Islamic Messiah and creation of Allah Almighty, is NOT our Creator:

Jesus, in the Bible, said he does not know when the Hour will come, only GOD alone Knows, Jesus said.

Jesus said if he bears witness of himself he would be a liar.

Jesus prostrated on his face and prayed and begged GOD all night long to save him from crucifixion.

Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Jesus was called slave of GOD in Old Testament.

If Jesus was GOD questions.

None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible.

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

The Fly's Digestive Miracle - Mentioned in the Holy Quran and Confirmed by Science!

Is Jesus greater than Adam?  NT says no.

Sun Chips Blasphemies:

Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son. But the Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD. Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah. This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2]. He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard. He is also the heir of GOD on earth only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD. See also:

Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

Oxymoron Trinity.

Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.

What is Islam?

What is Islam?

How and Why do I convert to Islam?

How do I convert a non-Muslim to Islam?

Other:

www.answering-christianity.com/arabs_no_longer_jews_dogs.htm (according to Jesus)

www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm (Matthew 24:25-27: Jesus will return as an Arab from Syria)

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.

Note: The (*) links below are html backups of the website's blog topic threads, in case the blog and its database are down.

From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

God in the OT addresses people as "my son" and describes them as his begotten son. Why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus and Abraham and other prophets, and now condemns these tittles in the Quran? Why would God give room to misuse these terms like the Greek and Romans did?

What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?

Son of GOD definition:

Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times. Trinity is a lie from Hell.

We read in the Bible that Prophets are servants and Jesus is the Son (Matthew 21:33-46). Jesus is more than a Rasul (Prophet). Jesus was also called Abd (slave) of GOD throughout the Old Testament, as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD. Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion. Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits). Jesus being King of kings means that he is the King of his Mansion's twelve thrones.

King of kings for Jesus does not refer to the corrupt earthly kings and thieves. They were offered to Jesus before during his temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all. Jesus is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion. Other people in the OT were called King of kings also. So the title is not even unique to Jesus.

In the Bible, "the Son" refers to the Messiah, - the Ultimate Messenger to the Jews. Son in their time meant Servant of GOD. Allah Almighty also explained it precisely like this in the Glorious Quran: "....servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)". Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm

This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)". Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven. But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else. You can visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
Muslims bless Abraham everyday. Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."

Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran? Yes. Here are several Noble Verses that do support it. Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD.

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

Except GOD Alone! Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν. Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν. He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.

And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called:

1- GOD (El) of other people.
2- Son of GOD.
3- Begotten Son of GOD.
4- GOD's First Born.
5- GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
6- GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
7- King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
8- All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).

Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1]

King James Version
Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

New King James Version
Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.

"Servant" here is slave. Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2], the
same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general, throughout
the Bible [2]. Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.

In Arabic also it's the same. My name Osama Abdallah, which means
Osama slave of Allah (GOD). Slave is a subject of GOD. A servant is
independent. A servant provides services. He/she can quit serving
without consequences and can even kick you out of their territory. But
a slave (ABD) is totally OWNED.

I elaborated on this point in details at:

www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
Muslims bless Abraham everyday. Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."

The Servants are the Prophets of Israel. But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet. Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion. Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits). Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son (Matthew 21:33-46). Jesus is only the Lord of the Jews' Mansion.

Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran? Yes. Here are several Noble Verses that do support it. Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD.

Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD:

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

John 1:1:

John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran. Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word ~~was God~~ was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [ [1] [2] [3])."

The Word encompasses Jesus:

From www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:

From brother Shaad:

The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation.....

Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the ;witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...

Revelation 1:2

2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the

Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad. I took the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi. Indeed, the Word of GOD Almighty ENCOMPASSES Jesuss, because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.

Trinity is false. I have added your addition to:

www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

Osama Abdallah

Messiah definition:

www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm

Also visit:

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

Jesus' Original Name:

Prophet Jesus' original name was Eesa, as this is also his Islamic name. Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus. There is also a great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and preached in Arabic. Not only that, but Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine. Islam's claims are very strongly supported. See proofs below.

Did early Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?

Did the early believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth, Antioch, Rome and all other places? Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews' Messiah and final Prophet. In both the Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Ahmed was prophesied to come. Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name. Also, see below the Dead Sea Scroll image. The New Testament too predicts the coming of three:

1. Elijah.
2. The Messiah.
3. The Prophet.

John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44. Click on the images to expand:

John the Baptist calls Jesus a liar! (Matthew 11:1-6).

So did the early believers preach the coming of Prophet Ahmed or Muhammad? The answer is quite possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for them and not phase 1. Jesus was the early believers' immediate Prophet, not Muhammad. And all of the details that they had were about Jesus, not Muhammad. It is also important to know that the following seven Roman Emperors have thoroughly burned all of the early believers' writings:

1. Nero (54-68)
2. Domitian (81-96)
3. Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
4. Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a point)
5. Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a point)
6. Trajanus Decius (249-251)
7. Valerian (253-260)

Read all the details with references here.

What we have today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were written 80 years to 300 years after Jesus' departure from this earth. So, the current writings that we have are not original writings. Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed trinity was invented [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. Many lies had been fabricated after the original writings were all lost. The Jews and Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad. These were some of the original texts that survived.

From Why Jews settled in Arabia section:

Video and text are in the linked section above.

Jesus also preached in Arabic:

See the clear proofs in the following:

Proofs that early Christian believers' title was MUSLIMS from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves. Also, Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly spoken by the natives there.

Also, ample proofs that Jesus also spoke and preached in Arabic, and there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the coming of Prophet Muhammad in details. Arabic is estimated to date back 8000 to 20000 years by non-Muslim researchers, and had always been the first language in the entire lands of the Middle East, North and Central Africa.

Prophet Muhammad in the Early Christians' writings.

Prophet Muhammad foretold , by the name, in the previous Scriptures. We still have texts today and from the Bible itself and outside the Bible that tell about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and Islam as the Servant of GOD Almighty and the New Religion and Covenant of GOD Almighty, respectively.

Important:

- What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?
- Jesus was created from the Word of GOD and filled with the Holy Spirit, according to Islam.

In the Bible, Muslims, Salamays, Mushlams, Mushlems, Mushlimana are the Believers' original title [1]. Islam came to restore the original Faith [1].

Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:



(Film in this article)

Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures. Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the Bible, and his prophetic Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed [1] [2].

Father and Son Definitions:

Definition of Key Terms (*) (a discussion between me and a Christian):

1- What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible? How is it defined in Islam? (see point #5 below) How does the Bible really define it?

2- What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible?

3- Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament. See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian. Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek. He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says. See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 [2].

Who is Melchizedek?

According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20) [2]. The Bible literally says that. Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.

Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran? And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator? And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ? See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.

Also again, see this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.

4- Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus? Yes it does (*).

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word ~~was God~~ was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule (*) [2] [3])."

Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will (*) with ample verses.

In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:

(a)- GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like unto anyone or anything.

(b)- The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings that were made by the Word and the Spirit.

(c)- The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water physical world and Universes (plural).

Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?

1 John 2:22-23:

1 John 2:22-23 is another church-written lie. Again, ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers. Christians often quote the following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:

1 John 2
22 Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

Muslims firmly believe in the Messiah and his virgin birth miracle. Islam cemented the virgin birth of Jesus belief after it was fading away. Christians admit this. Also, the Glorious Quran claims that sons of GOD title was used for servants raised to honor: Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

"Messiah" is the sonship:

Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son. Son here means he is the Messiah. The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD. Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah. This is his special sonship. He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2]. He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard. He is also heir of GOD on earth only. That's the limit of his sonship. Otherwise, it is sun chips! There is nothing GODly about him. He is not our Creator. With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD. See also:

1- Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran. They are "....no more than servants raised to honor. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

2- Oxymoron Trinity.

3- Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.

Sun Chips blasphemies:

The polytheist trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no more than servants raised to honour") with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air and making him the Creator of the Universe.

Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols. All are helpless. All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

Did Jesus claim to be God? (8 minutes)

www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

5- What does the Glorious Quran say about the “Father” and “Son” titles:

The Quran is against the exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words, which ultimately the polytheistic religion of trinity was born out of.

Allah Almighty Said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)"

From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2141.msg9505#msg9505:

The Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We":

.......

In regards to your question, there are two legitimate answers for it:

1- GOD Almighty can and does refer to Himself as WE and I. So the plural We can and does refer to Allah Almighty Alone.

2- In Allah Almighty's Realm, there are the People of Allah.   AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah)).

Go to www.google.com إن لله - تعالى - أهلين من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟ قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله وخاصته

The Hadith in Arabic translates as:

"; أهلين from mankind. They asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who are they?" He said: They are the People of the Quran; the Family/People of GOD أهل الله , and they are His Special Ones خاصته.";

This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious (The Noble Quran, 21:26))". Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven. But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else. You can visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm (The definition of "Son of God" in Islam)
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

Iblis, who later became satan, used to be from AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah) when he was a pious Servant. /span> But because he and his followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF GOD Almighty:

www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm

So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants that HE spoke with directly and Commanded directly. But even in that ca/span>se, the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone (the Majestic We), because Allah Almighty is the One and Only Decision Maker, and there is none other besides Him.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

So people did call each others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all reality, they are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor.

Here are some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON":

Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى): See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.

In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian". المولى is derived from the root word ولي .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty.

FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا). We further read the following in the Bible:

Isaiah 41:8/font> "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

Chronicles 20:7 Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

[002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).

So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.

Also, BEGET = CHOSE.

King James Bible Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Allah Almighty used اصطفاك اصطفيتك يصطفي اصطفى اصطفينا to mean to Choose a Servant in Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 in the Glorious Quran.

So clearly Islam is in harmony with GOD Almighty being our:

- Guardian
- Friend
- Protector
- And the One who Chose us.

And we definitely believe that Isa (Jesus) is the Messiah.

One last important point: Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus ever called "from the Seed of GOD" or "the Seed of GOD". We do have "Jesus is from the seed of David" (Psalm 132:10-11, Romans 1:3). But never from GOD!

GOD has no seed according to both the Bible and the Quran.

Therefore, the claim that Islam is the Anti-Christ is false.

So, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22? No it isn't. Here are some Quran and Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:

(a)- Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):

See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78. In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian". المولى is derived from the root word ولي .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the following point.

(b)- FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا):

We further read the following in the Bible:

Isaiah 41:8
"But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

Chronicles 20:7
Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

James 2:23
And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND". Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

[002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

[003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

[004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).

So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:

1- Is the Protector.
2- Is the Friend.
3- Is the Guardian.

Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203 (backup)

(c)- BEGET = CHOSE:

Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:

King James Bible Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:

[027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?

‏27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون

[003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-

‏3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين

[003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

‏3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين

[007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks."

‏7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين

[022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).

‏22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير

[035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.

‏35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير

[038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.

‏38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار

[039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.

‏39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know. Please visit:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT. And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:

1- Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).

2- Wali - Guardian.

In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali. But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father. This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery. No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty! Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these. Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter. Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters?? No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):

[005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

Again, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203 (backup).

The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

Click to play video [1]. Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

Jonah was alive: But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal. He was alive on the shore,
alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. Alive, alive, alive!

6- Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1, *] [2] [3]. The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following links:

(Click to play videos)

       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

       Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

"Son of God" in ancient times meant no more than a righteous Servant and Chosen one of GOD Almighty: [1] [2]. Christians have simply failed to properly define ancient idioms and terminologies.

Is Jesus the Son of GOD? (2 minutes)
(Full 2 1/2 Hours Debate, with very rich and
good arguments)

Late Sheikh Ahmed Deedate debated Anis Shorrosh on
"Is Jesus GOD?" Anis Shorrosh brought every
possible argument from both the Old and New Testaments.
Late Sheikh Ahmed Deedate thoroughly refuted them and
proved that trinity is 100% not supported in the Bible!

A Great Response by Dr. Zakir Naik

"I and the Father are One"
"I am the Way, the Truth and the Light"

At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
this debate and destroyed Christianity!

This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
the Bible's New Testament that Jesus Christ was never
crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead. This 3-hour
debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.

Also includes the place of Jews, Christians and non-Muslims in Islam, Satan, the Holy Spirit, and End of times Prophecies in Islam.

Also, the following table summarizes the article about Jesus was tempted and coveted (this article also covers the "satanic verses" lie about Islam):

Jesus' Temptation, Coveting, and Fasting:

Keep the following in mind as you read the entire analysis:

Jesus felt spiritually weak, from the temptation, that Angels had to come down to "attend him" (Mark 1:12-13), and he "suffered" (Hebrews 2:17-18) from satan's temptation. And the NT further says that everyone, including Christ, who gets tempted has "evil desires" and was "dragged/let by satan" because of them (Luke 4:5-6, James 1:13-15) in him.

See also: Jesus: King of kings or King Kong? See how Jesus obeyed satan and climbed the top of the temple (as tall as a castle) to jump and commit suicide. See also how Jesus coveted the sins of the world for 40 days and 40 nights during his temptation by satan. Jesus also masturbated and lusted after the sinful kingdoms of the world, and their harlots. He coveted all of them:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3095.msg15145.html#msg15145
www.answering-christianity.com/king_kong.htm
King of Kings title for Jesus was not unique. GOD Himself in the Bible also called other kings "O King of Kings".
Is Jesus greater than Adam? NT says no.

Yes, Jesus did masturbate and lust after the sinful kingdoms of the world, and their harlots. He coveted all of them.

1- Temptation VS Coveting:

Let's get some facts straight from the Bible:

1- It is a fact that the Bible claims that satan led Jesus and tempted him (Mark 1:12-13, Luke 4:1-2, Luke 4:5-6):

2- It is a fact that the Bible claims that satan dragged and led Jesus through this temptation for 40 days and 40 nights. It got so ridiculous that satan even had Jesus STAND on top of the temple (Matthew 4:5-10, Luke 4:10-12, it was as big as a fortress; see the Jewish wailing wall of today and how big it is), and hang from it pushing him and tempting him to jump and commit suicide:

3- It is a fact that the Bible prohibits coveting (Romans 7:7-8, 13:9, Micah 2:1-2, Exodus 20:17, Deuteronomy 5:21, Acts 20:32-35). Yet ironically, Jesus did almost nothing but coveting during his 40 days and nights of temptation from satan. He got so bad and so weak that Angels had to come down to help him, literally "attend him". He was having "evil desires", and he "suffered" from satan's temptations. Also visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm

4- It is a fact that the Bible claims that satan led Jesus and tempted him to rule the world into a satanic kingdom (Luke 4:5-6). He again led him and showed him all of the kingdoms of the world and offered them to him, and Jesus was tempted for 40 days and 40 nights to actually go for it.

When one is tempted, he has already coveted what he was temped on. If I am tempted to steal your wallet, then I have already coveted your wallet. Having said that, let us thoroughly examine coveting and temptation in the Bible.

2- The difference between Temptation and Coveting, and how Jesus did Covet:

In the context of all of the points that I mentioned above, there are two types of temptations:

1- Being tempted to do something, or to take action on something (ex: me tempting you to go to the movies with me).

2- Being tempted to a point of coveting (ex: me tempting you to rape a woman!). You contemplating it for 40 days and 40 nights have already made you covet her. You have already passed the point of coveting.

Jesus felt spiritually weak, from the temptation, that Angels had to come down to "attend him" (Mark 1:12-13), and he "suffered" (Hebrews 2:17-18) from satan's temptation. And the NT further says that everyone, including Christ, who gets tempted has "evil desires" and was "dragged/let by satan" because of them (Luke 4:5-6, James 1:13-15) in him:

Jesus coveted the kingdoms of the world. Jesus coveted being an evil leader of this world. Imagine, open pornography, homosexuality, drugs, alcoholism, brutality, the strong eating the weak, monopoly, theft, crookedness, prostitution and all of the sins that one can think of being Jesus' kingdom and realm on earth. Him being heavily tempted into it, for 40 days and 40 nights, makes him already guilty of coveting it. How much longer must it have taken Jesus in order for YOU to consider it coveting?

41 days? 100 days? 40 years??

Jesus Coveting

Now here is FACT#5 for you:

5- The Bible claims that it didn't record all of the elaborations and details on the events (John 21:25). See end of the Gospel of John and other books. This means that there is far more to the story of Jesus' temptation than what is recorded. Jesus probably fell also weak sexually. Him being a virgin for 33 years probably weighed very heavily on him. He probably:

1- Masturbated.

2- Wished if he was a partner of a woman. Outside your bible we have an account of him kissing Mary Magdalene on the mouth. SEE THE GOSPEL OF PHILIPS FOR THIS, OUTSIDE THE BIBLE:

Now, am I suggesting that Christ was evil? Absolutely not! But I am bringing light to this story that Christians like to avoid.

"A walk in the park" Christian lie:

Some Christians say that Jesus temptation was a walk in the park, and that he was mocking satan, and letting satan bring on his worst challenges to Jesus.

Then their corrupt Bible is lying when it said Jesus suffered from satan's temptation, because this would clearly be a lie if Jesus was simply walking in the park with satan and making fun of him, and the Bible would also be lying when it says that the Angels had to come down to attend Jesus because he got weak from the temptation, and it would be lying to use the very word tempted for Jesus, especially when it defines temptation as one having evil desires in him, and certainly Jesus walking in the park here would clearly be a lie.

From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm:

Was Jesus fat and drunkard (Matthew 11:18-19):

Not that his physique in itself is the problem, but it certainly brings into question his harsh standards about giving up everything you have (Matthew 19:21), while he lives off of everything you have, and gets fat and also gets drunk??? It also supports that he really was between satan and GOD during the his 40 days and nights of temptation. He suffered, and he got very weak that Angels had to come down to help him. And he also had "EVIL DESIRES" and he COVETED during this temptation.

Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm

Now let us see where Jesus was fat:

Matthew 11:18-19 (KJV)
18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.

Matthew 11:19 (NIV)
19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is proved right by her deeds.”

Matthew 11:19 (NLT)
19 The Son of Man, on the other hand, feasts and drinks, and you say, ‘He’s a glutton and a drunkard, and a friend of tax collectors and other sinners!’ But wisdom is shown to be right by its results.”

Where did people get this impression from? Didn't they form their opinions on what they actually saw? Would they really say this about a skinny and ill-fed person? No. Jesus was obviously fat.

But here is the bigger question:

Was Jesus living off of the sacrifices of his followers, and getting fat and drunk, and while demanding that they sacrifice everything that they have? It seems that the physical appearance of Jesus was that he was fat. No skinny and ill-fed person would ever be criticized of eating too much. Let alone also being a drunkard.

See also Jesus was tempted. Imagine, our Creator of the Universe gets fat and drunk. Jesus was not our Creator.

Eating disorder or Carelessness?

Did Jesus suffer from eating disorder that people saw him as a fat person?

1- If yes, then he could not be the Creator of the Universe, because GOD Almighty is in FULL CONTROL. No disorders.

2- If no, then Jesus was careless and wasn't responsible, nor was he sensible nor sensitive towards those who sacrificed for GOD Almighty. What kind of a person would gorge on the sacrifices of people, especially of those who gave all of their wealth! Why would he eat too much and get drunk on their expense?? What example is he setting?

In either case, Jesus was not the Creator of the Universe. He got drunk and he ate too much to a point he appeared to be fat.

FACT#6:

6- The Bible says that GOD Almighty can not be tempted by satan or anyone (James 1:13-15)! Yet, Jesus got tempted and he coveted, and he was between GOD AND SATAN FOR 40 DAYS AND 40 NIGHTS.

Jesus could not be the Creator of the Universe. He was too mortal and too human and too weak to be one. He was dependent upon GOD Almighty, and not independent. In fact, if Jesus JUMPED FROM THE TEMPLE as satan was tempting him, he would not have been able to fight gravity to save himself from a bone-crushing and painful death.

That's how weak Christ was. So to all of the polytheist trinitarian pagans out there, I sincerely invite you to dump this pagan and false belief of yours and to embrace Islam.

Note: While the Bible says that Jesus, while being tempted by satan, only fasted from eating anything, - for 40 days and 40 nights, - but the same Bible also says that Moses fasted for 40 days and 40 nights without eating or drinking anything (Exodus 34:28, Exodus 24:18, 1 Kings 19:8). Therefore, I believe that Jesus' fasting also included not drinking water for 40 days and 40 nights [1].

So even when Moses, peace be upon him, was with GOD Almighty, he was able to fast for 40 days and nights without any food or water, because he was with GOD Almighty. Both Islam and the Bible declare that Jesus had the Holy Spirit and the Word of GOD Almighty in him [1] [2] [3] [4]. And he fasted for 40 days and nights. It is quite clear to me, that his fasting included not drinking as well.

In fact, if Jesus didn't drink water, as Christians claim, then this clearly proves that he is not our Creator, because it clearly says that because he was away from GOD Almighty, he wasn't able to fast on drinking. Moses was able because he was with GOD Almighty. Jesus wasn't because he was far from GOD? But isn't he GOD Almighty Himself, the Creator of the Universe? Not that if Jesus fasted on drinking water this proves that he is GOD. I am only pointing out the ridiculous fallacies of the man-made false trinity. Visit the link above to clearly see the ample passages that prove Jesus was a Creation of GOD, from Jesus' mouth himself: [4]. Please also visit:

Trinity Crucified! 100s of verses prove trinity is false. Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty. His wishes were sometimes denied. [2]

3- Jesus came from Heaven, how come he coveting what's on earth?!

Jesus Christ is no more than a creation of GOD Almighty, and a Prophet of GOD Almighty who was created from His Word. And if satan was able to play with his head for 40 days and 40 nights, 2,000 years ago in a world that is nothing to our world today, then would it take him 40 years and 40 more decades to overcome satan's temptation, today?

Remember that the Bible says that Jesus "suffered" (Hebrews 2:17-18) from satan's temptation so bad that GOD Almighty had to send down the "Angels to attend him" (Mark 1:12-13), because he was spiritually weak. And as I mentioned above, the NT further says that everyone, including Christ, who gets tempted has "evil desires" and was "dragged/let by satan" because of them (Luke 4:5-6, James 1:13-15) in him. So clearly, Christ's temptation wasn't a walk in the park. It was serious.

If people who were infested with lice and bad body odors tempted him for 40 days and 40 nights, then I wonder what the real heavenily models and temptations of today would do to his head.

Furthermore, Jesus Christ said:

Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Mark 10:18 Jesus said "And Jesus said to him, 'Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.'"

4- Jesus couldn't even meet his own standards!

And by the way, since Christians claim that Christ was SINLESS and PERFECT, then explain to me the difference between temptation and coveting based on the information that I gave above. The New Testament says that if you're tempted, you have "evil desires" in you:

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;
14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire (so Jesus had evil desires when he was tempted!!), he is dragged away and enticed.
15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full -grown, gives birth to death.

Open Challenge to Christians:

In light of the verses that I gave above, again, what is the difference between coveting and temptation? If Jesus coveted, then Jesus broke one of the pillars of the Jewish Law's Morality, and hence, he's not perfect nor sinless, especially when he himself said that if your eye sins then pluck it out, and if your hand sins, then cut it. If he can't even meet his own standards, and he got very weak and coveted what satan tempted him to have for 40 days and 40 nights, then what exactly is his perfection?

What is this perfection when he was between satan and GOD for 40 days and 40 nights?

How can Christ be perfect if he was tempted anyway?

And how can Christ be sinless when he coveted anyway?

5- Jesus prayed like Muslims:

Further proofs about Jesus was completely helpless and weak, and 100% dependent on GOD Almighty is the fact that he constantly prayed to GOD Almighty and seeked refuge with HIM from all evil:

"Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed....(From the NIV Bible, Matthew 16:39)"

Luke 22
39 Jesus went out as usual to the Mount of Olives, and his disciples followed him.
40 On reaching the place, he said to them, "Pray that you will not fall into temptation."
41 He withdrew about a stone's throw beyond them, knelt down and prayed,

Luke 11
2 He said to them, "When you pray, say: " 'Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come.
3 Give us each day our daily bread.
4 Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.' "
5 Then he said to them, "Suppose one of you has a friend, and he goes to him at midnight and says, 'Friend, lend me three loaves of bread,

Luke 22
45 When he rose from prayer and went back to the disciples, he found them asleep, exhausted from sorrow.
46 "Why are you sleeping?" he asked them. "Get up and pray so that you will not fall into temptation."

Mark 14
37 Then he returned to his disciples and found them sleeping. "Simon," he said to Peter, "are you asleep? Could you not keep watch for one hour?
38 Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak."
39 Once more he went away and prayed the same thing.

6- Christ, the Muslim, was victorious over satan's temptation!

The religion of Islam started from Adam and ended with Muhammad, peace be upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of GOD Almighty. Indeed, Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, didn't follow satan. He defeated the temptation. But still, his so-called "perfection" (which no one is according to Islam, by the way) was certainly disproved. This is no more than a lie that was invented by the polytheist trinitarian pagans.

Therefore, Jesus' victory over satan proves Islam's position about him being a True Prophet of GOD Almighty, and that he is not the Creator of the Universe. He is no more than a mere creation, because the very fact that he was tempted proves that he wasn't GOD, for no one can tempt GOD Almighty:

James 1:13 When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me."For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;

Yet, Jesus was tempted for 40 days and 40 nights, and he suffered, and he had evil desires in him, and he got spiritually very weak that Angels had to come down to spiritually attend him, and he also coveted as we saw above. Yet, the Bible considers coveting a moral sin, as we also saw above.

It is crystal clear that Christ is not GOD Almighty!

7- A beautiful Poem that summarizes Islam's View on Prophet Jesus:

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The brother's Youtube Channel. The poem can also be downloaded here.

*** Trinitarian Christians often refer to trinity as the "Holy Trinity". A very powerful statement indeed for a satanic word that doesn't even exist, not even once, in the Bible!!

The early Christians rejected Trinity. Early Christians had major problems and disagreements about who truly Jesus was and whether or not he got crucified or not.

The "God" title in the Bible was given to others in the Old and New Testaments. Answering Isaiah 9:6. The "El" (God) title that was given to Jesus in the Old Testament, and the "HOTHEOS" (God) title in the New Testament, were given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible. The only UNIQUE title that exists in the Bible is "Yahweh", which means "The Eternal".

2- Jesus' repetitive Prayers contradicted his very own teachings.
3- Jesus begged GOD Almighty for Mercy.
4- Jesus prostrated to GOD Almighty only once during his most desperate times! This is hypocrisy by the way.
5- GOD Almighty Created pain and death, and yet, Jesus feared them.
6- The GOD of the O.T. Punishes to death those who cursed HIS HOLY NAME. How could Jesus escape to Egypt from King Herod and still be this Mighty and Arrogant GOD?
7- In original Hebrew, "son of GOD" literally means "SERVANT OF GOD". See proofs.
8- What about the authority in Heaven and Earth that was given to Jesus?
9- None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible.
10- Conclusion.

Doubting Thomas said "My Lord and my God" to Jesus. Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:

****** The "God" title in the Bible was given to others in the OT and NT. Answering Isaiah 9:6. The "El" (God) title that was given to Jesus in the Old Testament, and the "HOTHEOS" (God) title in the New Testament, were given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible. The only UNIQUE title that exists in the Bible is "Yahweh", which means "The Eternal".

"Let us create" in Genesis 1:26-27 doesn't prove trinity. See how the Bible clearly defines "our likeness" and "our image" as having the knowledge of Good and evil, and not physically looking like GOD Almighty, which soundly refutes the lie of trinity.

Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?
Ten detailed sub sections in this article:
1- Jesus said he had no Divine Will.
2- Jesus' repetitive Prayers contradicted his very own teachings.
3- Jesus begged GOD Almighty for Mercy.
4- Jesus prostrated to GOD Almighty only once during his most desperate times! This is hypocrisy by the way.
5- GOD Almighty Created pain and death, and yet, Jesus feared them.
6- The GOD of the O.T. Punishes to death those who cursed HIS HOLY NAME. How could Jesus escape to Egypt from King Herod and still be this Mighty and Arrogant GOD?
7- In original Hebrew, "son of GOD" literally means "SERVANT OF GOD". See proofs.
8- What about the authority in Heaven and Earth that was given to Jesus?
9- None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible.
10- Conclusion.

"Brother MENJ's paper on Jesus obeying satan. How can Jesus be the Creator of the Universe when he was tempted by satan and obeyed him for a little while? This clearly takes away Jesus' perfection and the false claim about him being the Creator of the Universe.

Jesus in the Bible GUARANTEED Paradise to non-Trinitarians and even non-Christians who are Monotheists. I further proved that the Bible's interpretation by trinitarian Christians is bogus. According to the verses mentioned in the article, Jesus in the NT is clearly not the only salvation to GOD Almighty. Otherwise, we are left with a major CONTRADICTION in the Bible between Jesus being the only salvation to GOD Almighty, and Jesus not being the only one. At any rate, the most ironic thing of all is that trinity is all based on man's interpretation. The word itself, "trinity", does not even exist in the Bible. Not even once! Yet, it is the central faith to most Christians today.

Jesus the "Alpha and Omega". Not only this quote doesn't prove Jesus as GOD, but it was also written in a book that is unreliable in later bibles. In the original Bibles, the quote doesn't even exist!!

Arche of the Creation of God as Alpha and Omega. The "Alpha and Omega" doesn't even exist in the original Bibles! It's a lie that was later inserted by trinitarians. See the historical proofs in the article. If their site is down, then you can read the article at this link ON MY SITE.

Do People and Angels bowing down to Jesus in Worship really prove that he is the Creator of the Universe? See how the word "Worship" used for Jesus doesn't even exist in the original Greek Bibles. The Trinitarian English translations are nothing but hoaxes and deceptions. The article responds to Matthew 15:9 and other English mistranslated verses in the Bible. Also, what about when David "prostrated" with his face down to the ground to Saul? Was David worshiping Saul?

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [2] [3])."

Hebrews 5:7-8 confirm Islam's claim about Jesus never got crucified and contradicts the Bible! According to the documentary film, "Banned from the Bible", which I watched on the History Channel, some of Saint Peter's apocalypse were banned from the current Bible, and these Epistles contain what Islam claims - that Jesus didn't get crucified on the cross and it only appeared that he was. This banned part also says that Jesus was standing next to the cross laughing. These are the parts of the Bible that only few people in the world know about.

According to the documentary film, the apocalypse was very popular among Christians during the 2nd century. They believed "it was spiritually inspired" by GOD Almighty to Saint Peter. They actually had doubts about "John's apocalypse", which is known today as "the Book of Revelation". Interestingly also, this apocalypse says that after GOD Almighty fills both Heaven and Hell with inhabitants from Mankind, and the people of Hell get tortured for a long period of time, the People of Heaven will ask and Pray to GOD Almighty to Forgive the people of Hell. GOD Almighty will then eventually listen to their Prayers, and will order the "Gates and the Steel Bars of Hell" to be opened and allow the people of Hell to enter Heaven for Good. This apocalypse of Peter seems to also perfectly fit Noble Verse 7:40 in the Noble Quran where Allah Almighty Promised that He will eventually open the Gates of Heaven to all disbelievers and empty Hell. Please visit: Hell will eventually be empty according to Islam.

Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus?
It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross. I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken. My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion. I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10. I also showed in Isaiah 52:13 "...he will be raised and lifted up....", which clearly and perfectly agrees with Islam about Jesus never died on the cross. "Raised and lifted" suggests that Jesus will be picked up right from the cross, or saved right from the cross by Allah Almighty. It suggests that Jesus will not die, nor get crucified, but rather be raised and lifted by GOD Almighty to Heavens.

A Great Response by Dr. Zakir Naik

"I and the Father are One"
"I am the Way, the Truth and the Light"

* Christians believe that the Gospels of John, Matthew, Luke and Mark are GOD Almighty's Revelations/Inspirations. Where does it say so in their Gospels? And where do we see anyone claiming ownership of those Gospels?

The original Bible was lost! See comments from the NIV Bible itself. No one ever claimed ownership of the current Gospels. The owners/writers are unknown.