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Rose-like paint? Quran?
« on: November 17, 2013, 10:57:12 PM »
The verse in question is: [055:037]  When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint.

This verse was applied to a nebula and how it appears like a rose like paint. The problem is, a nebula is a Star exploding! Not the universe/sky breaking.

Why is this verse attributed to nebula. I can't see the connection.

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Re: Rose-like paint? Quran?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 03:39:16 AM »
Assalamualykum.

 
[055:037]  ''When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint.''


 Brother, I think this verse is not talking about Nebula. Rather it might be talking about the boundary of the Lowest Heaven which we still couldn't discover. It might consist of dark matter.Remember, in several verses Allah said our Universe is confined within the Lowest Heaven and there are more six Heavens surrounding the First Heaven. And from the above verse we can understand that the boundary of the Heaven is solid or else it wouldn't be possible to disintegrate it. May be after some centuries due to the advancement of Science, this verse will be clear to the people. ;D ;D ;D


 

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Re: Rose-like paint? Quran?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 08:57:45 AM »
The verse in question is: [055:037]  When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint.

This verse was applied to a nebula and how it appears like a rose like paint. The problem is, a nebula is a Star exploding! Not the universe/sky breaking.

Why is this verse attributed to nebula. I can't see the connection.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Please visit this article: http://www.answering-christianity.com/galaxy_explosion.htm.  There you'll get your answers insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Rose-like paint? Quran?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2013, 01:22:22 PM »
Assalamualykum.


 Brother Osama, the problem is the verse says "Sky" not "Star".

 First of all it is talking about the Day Of Judgement .So it might be implying the boundary of the lowest Heaven or our Atmosphere. On that day there might arose some turbulence in our Atmosphere which might give it a rose colored paint just like Jupiter.


   

   

   


 Jupiter's atmosphere resembles the above description of the Quran. May be on the Final Hour our atmosphere might take the same form. Allah knows the best.



 
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Re: Rose-like paint? Quran?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2013, 01:48:54 PM »
 
 Another Explanation


  As I have told earlier that our Universe is within the ''Lowest Heaven" as described in the Quran. Allah says:

  "Lo! We have adorned the lowest heaven with an ornament, the planets;"(37:6)

    And He completed them as seven heavens within two days and inspired in each heaven its command. And We adorned the nearest heaven with lamps and as protection. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.(41:12)


 From the above verses it clear that our Universe is within the ''Lowest Heaven'' and this Heaven is Encircled by more 6 Heavens. Brother do you know more than 84% of our Universe consists of dark matters as Allah says:


 ''So I swear by what you see''(69:38)

 ''And what you do not see''(69:39)


 ''No! I swear by the slinkers,''(81:15)

 '' the runners, the sinkers,''(81:16)


 In the above verses Allah might be referring to the Dark Matter of the Universe. So what I wanted to say is that the boundary of the lowest Heaven might be comprised of Dark Matter that is why we can't see it and may be it is a Solid structure as Allah says:

 [055:037] '' When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint.''


 Well Allah knows the best.

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Re: Rose-like paint? Quran?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 03:09:33 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Farhan,

Jazaka Allah Khayr for the good explanation, akhi.  Your interpretation is certainly possible, and is certainly encompassed in the following broader explanation, which I will update the article tonight, insha'Allah:

1-  The Noble Verse that brother Mclinkin94 raised is 55:37.

2-  We actually have to look at the full context, which starts at Noble Verse 55:33.  Here are Noble Verses 55:33-37:

‏55:33 يامعشر الجن والانس ان استطعتم ان تنفذوا من اقطار السماوات والارض فانفذوا لاتنفذون الا بسلطان
‏55:34 فباي الاء ربكما تكذبان
‏55:35 يرسل عليكما شواظ من نار ونحاس فلا تنتصران
‏55:36 فباي الاء ربكما تكذبان
‏55:37 فاذا انشقت السماء فكانت وردة كالدهان


[055:033]  O you jinns and humans, if you can penetrate the outer limits of the heavens and the earth, go ahead and penetrate. You cannot penetrate without authorization mighty authority (سلطان sultan).  (See also Sheikh Yusuf Estes' explanation on this Noble Verse).
[055:034]  Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny?
[055:035]  You get bombarded with projectiles of fire and metal, and you cannot win.
[055:036]  Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny?
[055:037]  When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint.

It is clear in the context of these Noble Verses, that

(a)-  Man could ascend up in space, once he has the "mighty authority" (Sultan) with him.  This is further proven by the fact that Allah Almighty did speak about lack of Oxygen and Constriction of breathing as man ascends higher and higher into the Heavens: http://www.answering-christianity.com/space_pressure_in_noble_quran.htm.

(b)-  If man tries to pass through the Heavens, he will bombarded with space rocks and metals.

(c)-  Man could actually see already-disintegrated Heavens that resemble the shapes of roses.  And this is true.  Our advanced space telescopes have already shown us ample pictures of disintegrated systems that look like roses and are painted like roses: "turns rose colored like paint".  Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/galaxy_explosion.htm.

(d)-  By the way, the penetrating the Heavens may not also necessarily be physical.  Allah Almighty could be here also be referring to the Space Telesscobes that we have that capture Galaxies that are many many light years away from us.  And indeed, when we established this penetration, what did we see?

1-  We saw exploded star systems that resembled roses and looked like "rose colored like paint":

Doomed Solar Systems:

All of them look like "rose colored like paint":





2-  We also discovered the complex Clusters, Cosmic Webs, Gama Rays Bursts, Dark Matter, Black Holes and so much more that the Universe has out there.  Please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/pulsars_are_knocking_and_penetrating.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/black_holes.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm#explosion_of_universe





3-  We saw the trillions of Space Rocks and Metal Asteroids that are near and far away from our solar system.  For ample more Noble Verses, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/shooting_stars_miracle.htm.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Rose-like paint? Quran?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 11:32:42 PM »
Thank you everyone for clearing that up.

Brother Osama, through the context, I now understand what you mean.

Thank you very much!

I also have a question about 5:33, does it really translate to the "Outher limits'' of the universe? Or does it just say pass through the regions/vastness of the heavens/earth?