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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Time for some Change?
« on: September 18, 2016, 11:33:09 AM »
 EXACTLY! This site needs to be more organized and professional. Its just filled with scientific miracle and conspiracy theory tables. I some times don't even know if I reached the article or not.

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One relevant thing I should mention, according to recent statistics Chinese people are turning towards Christianity (i.e. towards one concept of God) and China is, I suppose, definitely not a poor people's country.

 Yup, although I believe that is most likely because of the ridiculous amount of Christian missionaries. I would also like to add that there is a great amount of poverty in China:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8510711/Belief-in-God-is-part-of-human-nature-Oxford-study.html

 Although China is getting rid of poverty quickly.

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The two are already there bro

 Ok, so whathat? Richard Dawkins has nothing to do with this and the last article hasn't been refuted by anyone. Go look it up.

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Refutations as in the first article was for God and the other 3 including one on dawkins site were against. Were they strong arguments for the against in your opinion or were they baseless and on what sense ?

 Give me the links.

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@Abdullah have you read the refutations and the dawkins one as well ? what were your thoughts or own refutations ?

Regarding that Oxford study,my friend who's a Psychology major who i had find and read the actual study about that link said it was about 300 pages long if my memory serves me well and it was extremely over the top complicated. Maybe not what we might think it is. Cause i think all it really mentioned was people in rural/poorer situations believed in God while others in more social areas didn't.

 What refutations? Both poor and rich showed signs of believing in God, however the poor showed it more. And that is natural of course.

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 Thanks a lot for sharing. Atheism is a huge problem today for Muslims. Not as much as it is for Christians (60 million will leave Christianity by 2050) but still a problem for Muslims. Anyways, their is an other evidence for the existence of God. A study in Oxford which costed about 2 million pounds around 20 countries with 50 academics proves that humans are naturally predisposed to believe in God! This is something that we call fitrah in Islam. Check this out:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8510711/Belief-in-God-is-part-of-human-nature-Oxford-study.html

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no it wasn't an error back then, because the Qur'an agrees with ALL times that's why Allah didn't say THE EARTH IS ROUND but rather said (Dahaha) because it agreed back then with science and it agrees with science now

 Am I talking to a wall? Go to the Dahaha HOAX section on this article to see my rebuttal to the claim. Dahaha doesn't mean made it round, again stop changing the word of Allah almighty.

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Do you really think anyone would've followed prophet Muhammad pbuh if there were scientifiic errors in the Qur'an back then?

 Yes, would you follow him? Many Rabbis and Priests converted to Islam at his time because he was in the Torah and Injil. There is a lot if evidence for the prophethood of Muhammad (peace be upon him).

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The Qur'an never said the moon was split IN TWO PARTS...Hamza Tzortis? he's been thoroughly refuted and he is hated and seen as a disgrace to islam....he's even labelled as an extremist. you seem to think he's some sort of prophet, hell do you believe that Prophet Muhammad pbuh isn't the last prophet? because many people who are against scientific miracles in the Qur'an could say no


 Yes, the Qur'an does say that Muhammad (peace be upon him) split the moon. Check Surat Al-Qamar (the Moon) and its tafsir and explanation. Second, No where was Hamza Tzortis refuted regarding the scientific miracle rejection of his. No where because NOPE of the people on this site can! I take my knowledge from him because he, unlike yourself (no offense), is professional in his arguments and cites acanemic sources. All you can say regarding his arguments is the following "that has been refuted". To you that line ("that has been refuted") is enough to refute the actual argument.

"he's been thoroughly refuted and he is hated and seen as a disgrace to islam"

 Why are you lying about the brother and insulting him? That man defends Islam and is loved by many Muslims. His Facebook page has more than 100k likes. He is very professional and no one hates him besides the anti-Islamics. If there is anyone who is a disgrace to Islam over here then that would be the people who lie about their Muslim brothers!!! Also, just because the Quran doesn't say something then that doesn't mean that it didn't happen. The hadiths show us that he split the moon. Are you a Quranist by any chance? May Allah guide you to the right path brother.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Noah and Mary
« on: September 16, 2016, 07:20:36 PM »
@RoyalMuslim Just to follow up but isn't it impossible for a human to even live that long ?

 You ask many questions. Stop it! Yes, but back then humans used to live extrenely long times. Even acording to the Bible and Torah.

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I'm sorry but in the end, was it an eclipse or did the moon get cracked?

 It is all rubbish. The prophet (peace be upon him) split the moon.
no it wasn't ;) it is really people like you that cause issues and cause anti islamics to try and refute the Qur'an


 The "rubbish" was the anti-Islamic video brother. The prophet (peace be upon him) split the moon according to most scholars wether you like it or not. The only ones who are causing the anti-Islamics to attack the Quran is NO ONE! They are kufar, they do it wether we did something or not. But people like yourself who follow the "scientific miracle" HOAX blindly and still believe in it even after it has been DEBUNKED and when scholars warned against its danger you still believe in it. It is embarrassing and makes Islam look bad. Hamza Tzortis himself who was a former supporter of this lie said that he felt embarrassed because of what he had done. Stop accusing me falsley brother.

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 If it is discovered later on that the Quran contradicts science in some way in the future. Wold you disbelieve in it?
that will never happen ;)

 Read my original comment brother. There was a scientific contradiction in the Quran at the time of the prophet (peace be upon him) and the old scholars. How ever science know longer considers it to be a mistake.

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@Abdullah hasn't Maurice's claims been refuted ? (On the wikipedia section of Islam and science which is SWARMING with answering islam members which we should fix btw)

I mean... it depends on the level of the so called error.. all I've been trying to research is does it contain 1 error because one could be fatal. Also where could the proof of no errors be found somewhere reliable? (Is the main reason i still come on this site to keep my mind at ease).

 Maurice hasn't been refuted from what I saw at all. Second, what is this so called "fatal" error that you find in the Quran? We cannot fix the amount of anti-Islamics on the internet. They will exist every where and in all times. They have been their since the time of the prophet (peace be upon him. Even if the error was fatal, science always changes. You ask to many questions which could be bad. Ibn Taymiyah said that one's heart shouldn't be a sponge for questions so that one of these questions causes him great doubt. 400 years ago they said that the Sun revolves around the Earth and now the opposite. 3000 years ago they said the Earth is flat but now that it is round. Science changes. It always changes. I already gave you a source which claims that the Quran has no errors. Do you want the source to be Muslim or non-Muslim? Do you expect a Non-Muslim to claim that the Quran has no errors instead of lying? The only non-Muslim that I found was Maurice and Keith Moore. Other than that I don't know anybody.

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