Is Jeremiah 8:8 refuted by arab christians?

[Sharif]

In a site, what is in arabic, says that Jeremiah 8:8 does not refer to an alteration of the Bible. However, I cannot understand very well, because it is in arabic., Please, comebody could help me with this? Thank you so much:

https://www.linga.org/defense-articles/NzQ3Nw

[Sharif]

What they basically say is that the pen of scribes refers to their tongues. According to them, the scribes never altered the text, but said different things to it. They cite Psalms 45:1

my tongue is the pen of a ready writer.

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Psalm%2045:1

So, they say that a PEN = TONGUE. So, when Jeremiah says that they altered it with pens, it refers that they altered it with their tongues.
Ples, is there some refutation?? Thanks.

[QuranSearchCom]

Their tongues or their feet, why get hung on this petty point when most of the Bibles that have commentaries added to them say that the Bible's books and gospels:

1.  Do contain alterations, fables and man-made injections in them.
2.  Written by mysterious men.
3.  Written by an unknown number of men.
4.  Written in unknown places.
5.  Written in unknown dates.

6.  The Bible's own theologians even admit that the bible contains "fictions", its original manuscripts "had been lost", and contains "fairy tails and fables".  See it all at:

www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

Christians are tricking you.  They are trying to reduce the claims of the Bible's contradictions and corruptions to a single verse, while the verse itself is petty.  And just for the record, yes, even their verse says that they turned the scriptures into a lie WITH THEIR PENS.  And given the Bible's ample corruptions and contradictions, then it is clear that the scribes have indeed corrupted the scriptures very bad.  Even GOD Almighty in the Bible spoke about this:

www.answering-christianity.com/deuteronomy4_2.htm

Deuteronomy 4:2
Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.




The Corruption is Irreversible:

The Bible today is so ridiculous, that it has:

1.  Men's additions and fabricated stories all over it.
2.  Even fights among the disciples of Jesus.
3.  Even Praised pornography between two illegitimate lovers.  It even promotes incestual thoughts and lust:

Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me.  I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me (how to be a [censored]?). I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's wet!], the nectar of my pomegranates.  His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."

www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links


Jeremiah 8:8 has nothing to do with GOD Almighty's Tongue being His Pen in Psalms 45:1.  It is talking about the scribes' lies and false writings that were turned into scriptures.  Just like you see the Bible today, it is filled with:

1.  Mens' alterations and fabrications.
2.  Contradictions.
3.  Fables and fictions.

The polytheist trinitarian pagans can use tongues and feet arguments all day, but again, this is petty.  They're trying to divert all attention to this point, because they feel they have some hope in re-interpreting it.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Sharif]

[Idris]

[Idris]

[khdrb]

Zohar is for kabbalists , some kind of magix and control, those who uses it are using it to play with the balances to be the top of the world, and to absorb the re-actions of the big sins they are making, they are now studying what is the re-action for any action they will make and make a ready plan in how to absorb it....

jews( hood ) in the Quran is an adjective not a tribe or a race... those people who make big sins and repent in the critical time or situation and tries to absorb the re-actions of their actions to stay alive. sabaeans is an adjective also for who leaves their fathers religion. christians ( nasara ) the supporters, hopefully in the cause of the only God.

dear brother IDRIS you are really IDRIS XD

[Idris]

As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Yes brother khdrb, I know that Zohar is a kabbalistic work, but it contains a commentary to the Torah which according to Rabbis was written in intention to reveal the hidden meaning of the verses. What is interesting is that the same author of this book Zohar, i.e. Rabbi Simeon bar Yohai (80-160 A.D.) wrote a book called nistarot (secrets) and he described in it the apocalyptic vision he had in a cave, according to which God will arise a prophet among the Ishmaelites, who will bring Kingdom of God, and his succesors will deliver Israelites from the wicked kingdom of Edomites (Romans). Speaking honestly, for me it will be not suprising if Rabbi Simeon bar Yohai would have mentioned prophetical names Ahmad and Mohammed in his esoterical commentary to the Torah. However at the same time, I 'am fully aware that the Jews will NEVER admit the truth, as I've said in one of my earlier posts, they would rather die that to tell you about Mohammed in their scriptures, especially if it is a pre-Islamic document!

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

[submit]

Christians claim that Jews falsify certain words and rewrote them  hence the production of Masoretic texts. That means Christians agree to the fact that Jews falsify their own texts

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[Idris]

As-Salamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Good points brother Osama, also the Book of Jubilees is another one of the best historical proofs that the Bible was corrupted! In chapter 1, verse 12 we read:

"And I will send witnesses unto them, that I may witness against them, but they will not hear, and will slay the witnesses also, and they will persecute those who seek the law, and they will abrogate and change everything so as to work evil before My eyes."

As also Dr. Kennicott after making an extensive historical research concluded that "In most ancient times, the Hebrew text was corrupt" (see the big image in my previous post here)

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Poland, Warsaw)

[QuranSearchCom]

Jazaka Allah Khayr dear brother Idris.  Great points and research from you akhi as always.  Keep up the great work!

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[QuranSearchCom]

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris,

Inside your post above, I changed the location of the image to: www.answering-christianity.com/e4be36300d519021.png.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah