Was Jesus really equal to God?

[Abdullah Tahmeed]

[submit]

it is quite established that 1st God; Jesus needed support from the other 2 Gods. When the Word/Son is on earth under the form of Jesus, he needed the support of 2nd God that is Holy Spirit to perform miracles inside the body of a human.

And when the Word/Son returns to the heaven, he needed support from the 3rd God Father by resting under the right hand of Father until the time is needed to return for 2nd coming. Despite resting quite close to Father, Son will still not have knowledge of the Hour.

but under a divine organization called Godhead, all 3 Gods are equal and none outranks each other.

[theydontreadthebible]

[Tahmeed]

Assalamu alaikum,

As I see, dear brothers, the following one is the most impotant verse that thorouly proves that the Father is the One True God.
This is my favorite verse in the NT!!!

(Here, Jesus is praying to the Father on the night of his arrest)
[John 17:3] And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the Only True God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

As we know, the gospel of John is the least corrupted one among the four gospels!

And if this verse doesn't prove that Jesus is not God, that by no verse in the world you can convince the trinitians to be monotheists!

And brothers, I have a question here. How do we convince Jehovah's witnesses? They don't believe in Trinity, but they do believe that Jesus is the begotten son of God (Nauzubillah). How do we make them undrestand?

JajakAllahu khair,
Sadat Tabmeed

[theydontreadthebible]

Very easy, humans only have children.
They believe God is a spirit.
Spirits don't mate or beget children.

And in the bible actually God is every believers Father!

And also if I'm not mistaken, (I have to rely on my memory), only an appostle is saying that jesus is the begotten son and some jews. But jesus never says himsefl I'm the only begotten son of God.(If so, Adam too, so there are 2 begotten sons)

[submit]

And brothers, I have a question here. How do we convince Jehovah's witnesses? They don't believe in Trinity, but they do believe that Jesus is the begotten son of God (Nauzubillah). How do we make them undrestand?

JajakAllahu khair,
Sadat Tabmeed

well they believe in the manifestation of the spirit and wisdom of God inside humans. Similar to Ahmadiya 'Muslims'. Jehovah witness do not see manifestation of spirit of God inside human as making that human = God. But rather chosen son of God.

While Trinity view the concept of manifestation a spirit of God creating a new human makes that human = God.