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By: Anonymous Muslim
More details on the LIE and FRAUD called the Torah (Bible) Codes
Let us look at one of my earlier articles
The Bible (Torah) Codes are CLEARLY FAKE
By: Anonymous Muslim
(He is a new convert to Islam)
1) Let’s get right to the HARD proof: ALL this part
“(From this POINT till end of the quote ALL FROM: http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html).
Assassinations Foretold in Moby Dick!
The following challenge was made by Michael Drosnin:
When my critics find a
message about the assassination of a prime minister encrypted in Moby Dick,
I'll believe them.
(Newsweek, Jun 9, 1997)
Note that English with the vowels included is far less flexible than Hebrew when it comes to making letters into words. Nevertheless, without further ado, we present our answer to Mr Drosnin's challenge.
(The underlined words were found by Shannon Kohl)
President John F. Kennedy was
shot in the head by an assassin who quietly waited in a concealed place. It was
President Abraham Lincoln was shot dead on April 14, 1865.
Israeli prime minister
Yitzhak Rabin was shot dead on November 4, 1995. His assassin was Igal Amir,
who fired three shots of which one hit Rabin fatally in the chest. Amir was a
You can verify the above messages, and find your own, using the public-domain text of Moby Dick. It can be downloaded as a gzipped text file (478KB, expanding to 1187KB).
Some more information about the pictures can be found here.
The death of Lady Diana was also predicted by Moby Dick. See the Princess Di page for details.
It has come to my attention that some people have taken this page as claiming that Moby Dick really predicted the assassinations of famous people. Please be assured that none of these patterns happened by other than pure random chance.
No laws of probability are violated here, or even stretched a little. That is also true of Drosnin's book, which is the whole point of this page. Once you learn Drosnin's rules (none) and the method (a bit of messy programming) you can find things like this anywhere. The reason it looks amazing is that the number of possible things to look for, and the number of places to look, is much greater than you imagine.
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Copyright Brendan McKay (1997), email@example.com.”
Again this was ALL From: http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html).
2) More Refutations of the Bible (Torah) Codes
“The primary objection advanced against Bible codes of the Drosnin variety is that information theory does not prohibit noise from appearing to be sometimes meaningful. Thus, similar patterns can be found in books other than the Bible. Although the probability of an ELS in a random place being a meaningful word is small, there are so many possible starting points and skip patterns that many such words are completely expected to appear.
Responding to an explicit challenge from Drosnin, who claimed that other texts such as Moby Dick could not yield ELS, Australian mathematician Brendan McKay found many ELS letter arrays in Moby Dick that relate to modern events, including the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. He also found a code relating to the Rabin assassination, containing the assassin's first and last name and the university he attended, as well as the motive ("Oslo", relating to the Oslo accords.) 
Code proponents respond by claiming that the ELS letter arrays appearing in the Bible are better in some way than those appearing in other books. They also investigate alternative types of codes and cyphers to stay ahead of criticism. However, in the absence of an objective measure of quality, and an objective way to select test subjects, it is not possible to positively determine whether any particular observation is significant or not. For that reason, most of the serious effort of the skeptics has been focused on the "scientific" claims of Witztum, Rips and Gans.
In 1999, McKay, together with mathematicians Dror Bar-Natan and Gil Kalai, and psychologist Maya Bar-Hillel, published a paper in Statistical Science which they claim provides an adequate refutation of the earlier paper of Witztum and Rips. The paper was reviewed anonomously by four professional Statisticians who found their refutation completely conclusive.
Their main points were:
The data used by Witztum and Rips was a list of rabbi names in Hebrew. The Hebrew language is somewhat flexible as far as name spelling goes, and each rabbi has several different appellations (aliases and nicknames), so special care should be taken as to how to choose the particular names searched for. So their result could be explained by claiming the data was not collected properly. From the paper: "...the data was very far from [being] tightly defined by the rules of their experiment. Rather, there was enormous "wiggle room" available, especially in the choice of names for the famous rabbis".
There is indirect evidence that the data was not, in fact, collected properly; that is, the choice of names and spellings was somehow biased towards those supporting the codes hypothesis.
Attempts at replicating the experiment failed to achieve the same result. From the paper: "A technical problem that gave us some difficulty is that WRR have been unable to provide us with their original computer programs. Neither the two programs distributed by WRR, nor our own independent implementations of the algorithm as described in WRR's papers, consistently produce the exact distances listed [by WRR]".
The McKay paper did not go so far as to accuse Witzum and Rips of falsifying their experiment, instead it argues that the ELS experiment is extraordinarily sensitive to very small changes in the spellings of appellations. This fact, when combined with available wiggle room, was exploited by McKay et al. to duplicate the Genesis result in a Hebrew translation of War and Peace.
There has been a continuing debate on these claims. (See the web pages cited below.)
The experiment of Gans has also received critical attention. Several attempts at replicating it, designed by mathematician Barry Simon, gave negative results. Finally, a committee at the Hebrew University, comprising both code proponents and skeptics, ran two replications using outside experts to compile the data. Both replications failed to find the phenomenon that Gans' original experiment claimed to find.
As of 2003, there are still a few university scientists who see evidence for such hidden messages. The most notable are Eliyahu Rips (see above) and Robert Haralick (an electrical engineer at the City University of New York). However, the overwhelming majority of scientists who have investigated these claims reject them.
ELSs are very sensitive to single-letter insertions. Jeffrey Tigay attacks the notion that there exists a single text in which to search for ELSs by pointing out the long history of scholarship on textual variations in the Hebrew Bible text. The significance of ELSs would seem to diminish in the face of hundreds or perhaps thousands of spelling drifts (often taking the form of letter insertions) in the text over time. There are similar variant readings and scribal distortions in the New Testament. (From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_codes).
The pagan trintarian christian and jewish LIE of a Code existing in the Bible (Torah) is CLEARLY False All the preceding information PROVES this!
Now let us move on to some new information:
It has been determined by McKay, Bar-Natan, Bar-Hillel and Kalai that the flexibility of Hebrew spelling is one of the most likely factors behind the success of the Great Rabbis Experiment published by Witztum, Rips and Rosenberg (WRR).
It is difficult for non-Hebrew speakers to appreciate the full extent of this phenomenon, so a recent coincidental observation of Professor Bar-Natan may help.
One of the famous rabbis used by WRR was Rabbi Haim Abulafia (1660-1744). There is a synagogue of Rabbi Abulafia in Tiberias. Here are some photographs of the side of the building and its main entrance.
The extraordinary thing about this image is that four different spellings of the name "Abulafia" can be seen:
Which of those spellings is correct? The answer is "all of them". It is simply a property of the Hebrew language that multiple legal variations abound.
Given the wide range of possible spellings to choose from, it is even more instructive to see which of them was used by WRR in their experiment. Here it is:
In other words, they used none of the above spellings but a completely different one!
WRR's explanation is as follows: they did not choose the spelling themselves, but asked an expert Professor Shlomo Havlin to choose for them. Havlin later explained his choice as the "original Arabic form of the name". The only comment we will make on that is to note that Havlin did not see the need to avoid the Hebrew spellings in his own professional writings. Why just here?
The large grey sign contains a very brief biography of Rabbi Abulafia. Amongst other things, it states that he died on the 7th of Nissan. Turning to WRR's data again, we find the 6th of Nissan. We don't know if there is any good historical evidence for the 7th, but the lesson here is that even the theoretically objective parts of WRR's data can sometimes be questioned.
None of the spelling variations above make any difference to WRR's experiment. Our purpose was merely to illustrate the issue of spelling flexibility in an entertaining fashion. Such spelling issues were of prime importance in the case of some of the other rabbis, however.
Creator: Brendan McKay, firstname.lastname@example.org.
Link again: http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/abulafia.html
Some good links to view more of the Code nonsense debunked by Mr. Brendan McKay
Here are some more details regarding Mathematicians, some of whom are Jewish and believe that the Torah is the divinely-inspired word of God, who assert that the Torah (Bible) Codes are NONSENSE and FALSE!
We are making this statement concerning what have been called "Bible codes" or "Torah codes". We recognize that many sincere people take this phenomenon seriously, which compels us to speak out on the basis of what our mathematical training tells us about the evidence claimed for this alleged phenomenon.
There is a common belief in the general community to the effect that many mathematicians, statisticians, and other scientists consider the claims to be credible. This belief is incorrect. On the contrary, the almost unanimous opinion of those in the scientific world who have studied the question is that the theory is without foundation. The signatories to this letter have themselves examined the evidence and found it entirely unconvincing.
We refer in particular to the paper Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis, published in Statistical Science in 1994. This experiment suffers from major problems concerning both its execution and the interpretation of its conclusions. Even without these concerns, we would not take such extraordinary claims seriously without a vastly more systematic and thorough investigation. No such investigation has been carried out, nor has the work so far established a prima facie case. In addition, word clusters such as mentioned in Witztum's and Drosnin's books and the so called messianic codes are an uncontrolled phenomenon and similar clusters will be found in any text of similar length. All claims of incredible probabilities for such clusters are bogus, since they are computed contrary to standard rules of probability and statistics.
Among the signatories below are some who believe that the Torah was divinely written. We see no conflict between that belief and the opinion we have expressed above.
Link to this page: http://math.caltech.edu/code/petition.html
Some more information by Mr. Barry Simon: Definitely check out this great link
Again it should be CLEAR that the Torah (Bible) Codes are a FRAUD and are NOT real
All Praise is Due to Almighty Allah!
Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.
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The Scientific Miracles in the Noble Quran.
Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible.
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