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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: refute this clown CL edwards on all his points
« on: November 02, 2013, 08:36:24 PM »
What's the issue bro, his points were extremely weak.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Confusion!!!!
« on: November 02, 2013, 06:21:56 PM »
Assalamualykum brothers.
Brother Thatmuslimguy I read you article and mashallAh it's good. I noticed that you still haven't written on the ayah about the earth moving from its place. The verse could be referring to the orbit of the earth in that the earths orbit is finely tuned and the earth stays within its orbit.
Brother farhan daha doesn't mean egg, but that doesn't matter, the Quran still says that Allah yukawer(coils) the night over the day which is only possible on a round earth.
Brother Thatmuslimguy I read you article and mashallAh it's good. I noticed that you still haven't written on the ayah about the earth moving from its place. The verse could be referring to the orbit of the earth in that the earths orbit is finely tuned and the earth stays within its orbit.
Brother farhan daha doesn't mean egg, but that doesn't matter, the Quran still says that Allah yukawer(coils) the night over the day which is only possible on a round earth.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Confusion!!!!
« on: November 01, 2013, 10:22:56 PM »
Assalamualykum
Brother farhan the Quran is not a science book so please don't treat it as one. It is a book of guidance, it was never meant to be a science book. In fact rarely anybody ever interpreted the Quran scientifically until Maurice baucille started the scientific miracle narrative. I ask all the bothers here to read brother hamza tzortzis essay on the scientific miracles in the Qur'an which can be found on his website at hamzatzortzis.com . You should not base your faith on the science in the Quran but on the irrefutable mathematical miracles in the Quran, especially the miracle of 19.
Brother farhan the Quran is not a science book so please don't treat it as one. It is a book of guidance, it was never meant to be a science book. In fact rarely anybody ever interpreted the Quran scientifically until Maurice baucille started the scientific miracle narrative. I ask all the bothers here to read brother hamza tzortzis essay on the scientific miracles in the Qur'an which can be found on his website at hamzatzortzis.com . You should not base your faith on the science in the Quran but on the irrefutable mathematical miracles in the Quran, especially the miracle of 19.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: November 01, 2013, 10:05:39 PM »
Salam bro mclinkin
I already showed you the difference between the ahadith and the sunnah. The sunnah has been passed on by so many people in each generation tthat it is impossible for it to have been corrupted. Instead of refuting harun yahya try to refute the Christians over at evolutionnews.org they have much stronger points
I already showed you the difference between the ahadith and the sunnah. The sunnah has been passed on by so many people in each generation tthat it is impossible for it to have been corrupted. Instead of refuting harun yahya try to refute the Christians over at evolutionnews.org they have much stronger points
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Confusion!!!!
« on: November 01, 2013, 06:22:10 PM »
salam, Im not sure where i read it from, but im pretty sure rawsiyaa means pegs. On another note the verses that say the mountains are moving are referring to the day of judgement. But i heard somebody argue that it is referring to the present and the past, I am not good at arabic grammar so I can't say that it is true or false.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: November 01, 2013, 04:08:08 PM »
assalamualykum
I hope y'all realize y'all are going in circles. Brother Black Muslim, the only thing that is contradictory with the ahadith is human evolution, all other forms of evolution are not contradictory with the ahadith. Anyways the evidence for human evolution is extremely weak. As for bro mclinkin their is no point of refuting harun yahya as his points are extremely weak. Also why do u keep ignoring my argument for the 100% authenticity of the sunnah
I hope y'all realize y'all are going in circles. Brother Black Muslim, the only thing that is contradictory with the ahadith is human evolution, all other forms of evolution are not contradictory with the ahadith. Anyways the evidence for human evolution is extremely weak. As for bro mclinkin their is no point of refuting harun yahya as his points are extremely weak. Also why do u keep ignoring my argument for the 100% authenticity of the sunnah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Recalling some earlier posts
« on: November 01, 2013, 03:58:01 PM »
Assalamuaykum I,ll be happy to provide some content but I don't have the time or knowledge to build the website.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Allegation against the Muslims
« on: October 27, 2013, 06:16:44 PM »
Assalamualykum brother
I don't see what the problem is, this ayah only applies to societies that allow slavery. Also, the slave has to agree to it, we can't force a slave into having sexual relations with us. lol, who is bringing up this claim, all other people have sex with whoever they feel like so they shouldn't be talking.
I don't see what the problem is, this ayah only applies to societies that allow slavery. Also, the slave has to agree to it, we can't force a slave into having sexual relations with us. lol, who is bringing up this claim, all other people have sex with whoever they feel like so they shouldn't be talking.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: October 27, 2013, 04:30:57 PM »
Assalamualykuim
Ilir ahmeti and blackmuslim
Before I respond to your posts, allow me to ask y'all a question.
Do y'all believe that the path that the sunni scholars take is the most intectually sound position?
And another question, show me one ayah in the Quran, where it says not to use my intellect when reading the Qur'an.
Brother Mclinkin
I dont know why I have to keep on repeating this, It is impossible for the sunnah to have been corrupted, it has been passed on by so many people in each generation that it is almost at the same level as the Quran in authenticity. The Sunnah and Hadith are two different concepts. It is only logical that Allah would protect the practice of the religion from corruption.
Ilir ahmeti and blackmuslim
Before I respond to your posts, allow me to ask y'all a question.
Do y'all believe that the path that the sunni scholars take is the most intectually sound position?
And another question, show me one ayah in the Quran, where it says not to use my intellect when reading the Qur'an.
Brother Mclinkin
I dont know why I have to keep on repeating this, It is impossible for the sunnah to have been corrupted, it has been passed on by so many people in each generation that it is almost at the same level as the Quran in authenticity. The Sunnah and Hadith are two different concepts. It is only logical that Allah would protect the practice of the religion from corruption.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: October 25, 2013, 10:18:35 AM »
Brother mclinkin the quran doesnt sap pray 3 times a a day it just mentions the names of 3 salaat. On another note, the ayah that says "we left nothing out of the book" is not referring to the Qur'an but to the book where Allah wrote down everything that would happen.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: October 25, 2013, 09:51:04 AM »
Assalamualaykum
I think y'all are confusing using your intellect with following your desires. These people that come up with these nonsense arguments are not using their intellect they are following their desires. It is not right to just say follow the scholars and don't use your intellect. That is a cop-out, this type of thinking comes from cowards who are too scared too use their minds. You have to destroy those absurd interpretations by using intellect. On the topic of evolution, why try to make Islam incompatible with it, this drives people away from Islam. This causes them to think that Islam is just another christianity with their crazy creationists. We should always try our best to reconcile science with the Qur'an. We shouldn't say that the Qur'an supports a theory, but we should that it is not contradictory to it.
I think y'all are confusing using your intellect with following your desires. These people that come up with these nonsense arguments are not using their intellect they are following their desires. It is not right to just say follow the scholars and don't use your intellect. That is a cop-out, this type of thinking comes from cowards who are too scared too use their minds. You have to destroy those absurd interpretations by using intellect. On the topic of evolution, why try to make Islam incompatible with it, this drives people away from Islam. This causes them to think that Islam is just another christianity with their crazy creationists. We should always try our best to reconcile science with the Qur'an. We shouldn't say that the Qur'an supports a theory, but we should that it is not contradictory to it.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: October 25, 2013, 01:06:24 AM »
Assalamualykum brother
Where are you getting this idea from that we are not supposed to use our intellect when looking at the Qur'an.The Quran tells us over 70 times to use our reason and intellect.
It also tells to ponder over its verses. Not only that but it also challenges us to find an error in it. So your statement is obviously false. It is this view of Islam that got muslims where they are today. If I were to switch the word "Qur'an" with "Bible" in your post I honestly wouldnt be able to tell the difference between you and a fundamentalist christian preacher. Why would I follow anybody blindly, when the Qur'an condemns people for doing the same thing. The Qur'an condemns anybody for being a blind sheep. Your sects argument is fallacious, because you don't realize that the best way to destroy these sects is with intellectual arguments, not by telling people to follow scholars blindly. I agree with you in that reading your positions in to the Quran is wrong. I dont understand what your problem is with rejecting ahadith that contradict with science, even Imam al Ghazali said that any hadith that contradicts with science must be discarded.
I don't even believe in evolution but i'm still going to refute your argument against it. You say that just because the scholars don't believe in evolution It must not be true. this is fallacious reasoning because the majority of the scholars aren't even familiar with the evidence for and against evolution. Anyways most scholars have authority over fiqh, fatawaa, etc... but they do not have valid authority over science because they dont even study it.
Where are you getting this idea from that we are not supposed to use our intellect when looking at the Qur'an.The Quran tells us over 70 times to use our reason and intellect.
It also tells to ponder over its verses. Not only that but it also challenges us to find an error in it. So your statement is obviously false. It is this view of Islam that got muslims where they are today. If I were to switch the word "Qur'an" with "Bible" in your post I honestly wouldnt be able to tell the difference between you and a fundamentalist christian preacher. Why would I follow anybody blindly, when the Qur'an condemns people for doing the same thing. The Qur'an condemns anybody for being a blind sheep. Your sects argument is fallacious, because you don't realize that the best way to destroy these sects is with intellectual arguments, not by telling people to follow scholars blindly. I agree with you in that reading your positions in to the Quran is wrong. I dont understand what your problem is with rejecting ahadith that contradict with science, even Imam al Ghazali said that any hadith that contradicts with science must be discarded.
I don't even believe in evolution but i'm still going to refute your argument against it. You say that just because the scholars don't believe in evolution It must not be true. this is fallacious reasoning because the majority of the scholars aren't even familiar with the evidence for and against evolution. Anyways most scholars have authority over fiqh, fatawaa, etc... but they do not have valid authority over science because they dont even study it.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: October 23, 2013, 06:27:22 PM »
I think yall should watch these videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBiqdvKlRAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyYUenRhSRQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBiqdvKlRAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyYUenRhSRQ
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: What do you guys think of this guy?
« on: October 22, 2013, 02:29:11 PM »
He is a joke Dawahfilms already took care of him and exposed him for the loser he is
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Definition help
« on: October 22, 2013, 12:10:19 PM »
Jazakallahukhayr brother. Can y'all help me understand ayah (88:20). It says the earth was sutihat which means to spread out something to become flat.
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