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Offline Syedsamad

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Mashal khan
« on: April 15, 2017, 11:56:35 AM »
What is the whole controversy about in Pakistan about This boy named mashal khan,any Pakistanis here ???

Offline AhmadFarooq

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2017, 01:56:21 PM »
News link: https://www.dawn.com/news/1326729

Incidents like these are why Pakistani Muslims from a particular background as compared to Muslims of other nationalities, are more likely to criticise the alleged unforgivable nature of blasphemy.

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2017, 04:01:50 PM »
Foolish and ignorant Pakistanis like these are parcially why pakistan image has distorted. They should have left it to the sharia court, this way we would know if he did or not. Now these idiots condemned themselves for hell for killing a muslim without confirming of his crime.

As a pakistani muslim, i do not see fools such as these who kill without justice as real muslims. I feel they have no knowledge of islam and may allah swt give them hadiyah. Ameen.

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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 11:03:35 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QQnB3H5lD4

Above link talks about he was wrongfully accused of blasphemy and murdered. The most important point I see is that, there was absolutely No EVIDENCE that was presented to show that he commit blasphemy, even then we remember how Muhammad pbuh treated Abd-Allah Ibn Ubay even though he was a clear hypocrite. But this isn't relevant, truth I see here is that this guy is shaheed, unless there was clear evidence of apostasy. But their should be more investigation to see if there was alterior motives to why the college mob killed him. Or investigation on who ever incited this event to happen.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2017, 01:29:48 AM »
I remember reading once somewhere that none of the people killed in Pakistan for alleged blasphemy, had even been convicted by a court. All of those killings happen to be extra-judicial murders.

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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2017, 03:51:41 AM »
According to reports from some Pakistani media agencies he used to question some things about Islam and it was a dorm room debate which led to this incident and I also saw it on Facebook there was an abuse directed to prophet Muhammad and he was framed using Photoshop whole incident looks like he was framed and he used to call himself sufi follower seriously these Pakistanis do nothing but to degrade the image of Islam I think these blasphemy laws should be removed people used to abuse prophet Muhammad later on they became Muslim blasphemy laws are inhuman

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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2017, 07:28:34 AM »
Whether Pakistani blasphemy laws are right or wrong, practically on-the-ground realities show that they don't have much effect. As I mentioned earlier, from what I know, all blasphemy accused never got convicted by a court. So the law itself never even got invoked. The real issue is embedded much deeper in the society with Pakistani Muslims willing to blindly follow and believe anything and everything just because someone claimed something to be "Islamic".

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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2017, 05:16:07 PM »
I believe that the Law regarding blashphemy needs to be jusdged based on intentions. MOST IMPORTANTLY,  what in the world is wrong with some of these brothers, many of them are not to much knowledgable on islam. Then what makes them think they can carry out the justice. Also i wonder if this was in Kyber, if it is. Then actually it makes more sense.

Offline AhmadFarooq

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2017, 04:06:04 AM »
"I believe that the Law regarding blashphemy needs to be jusdged based on intentions."

They probably are, but apparently, no one gets to even reach the point to be judged by the law. But even in the event that the law did get a chance to come into action, it would in all likelihood have to give some degree of acceptance to witness testimonies. And unfortunately, there would be more than a few "Muslims" who would consider their "religious obligation" to lie, take false oaths and commit perjury in order to punish someone accused of blasphemy.

"... what in the world is wrong with some of these brothers, many of them are not to much knowledgable on islam."

The same thing that appears to be wrong with most Muslims all over the world. Most Muslims are brought up with the beliefs that Islam is perfect, Islam is the answer to everything, that there cannot be anything wrong with Islam and many many more of these absolutistic and simplistic attitudes. All this, without ever telling them what Islam actually is.

Absolutely no education in critical reasoning and no exposure to the fact of multiple interpretations for most subjects related to Islam. No encouragement of questioning the religion due to a fear from the older generation of having the younger generation possibly becoming distant from the religion.

Such an environment makes these Muslims extremely vulnerable and they believe anything and everything which is claimed to be "Islamic" or "Sharia'". The difference regarding which point such Muslims are obsessive or unreasonable about appears to be regional which likely represents a cultural dependence. Muslims from the Asian sub-continent happen to have damaging views regarding blasphemy, while apparently Muslims from Africa countries have damaging views regarding other subjects like female circumcision.

"Also i wonder if this was in Kyber..."

Yes, it was in the Afghanistan bordering Northern Pakistani province Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. But why does that make "more sense"?

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2017, 01:25:45 PM »
Exactly ^^^

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2017, 01:29:31 PM »
We Muslims just get carried away by emotions that is why there are some people in .mY native village who support ISIS because they just can not tolerate other's criticizing we need to accept criticism and clear the doubts just like we do here but moulanas(some) do not do any such things instead the radicalize youths,Muslims have not yet reformed and they desperately need to !!!

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2017, 06:11:05 PM »
The reason why i said it makes more sense uf ut was in kyber. Is for the Fact that area is incredibly dangerous, most people cannot travel that area without a gun or protection from the local  groups that control that area. Many people from there are very extreme in religion. Also i heard that after the muslim brotherhood defeated the soviets they settled in the area of kyber. Pakistan has great difficulty putting that area under it's laws. This also explains why there was no quick police response. Also i am quite surprised that there even is a University in Kyber to begin with.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2017, 10:05:40 PM »
I'm sorry I didn't know about the local situations there but as a Muslim I wanted Pakistan to develop and prosper but these things will not allow that I seriously pity Pak :(

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2017, 10:08:02 PM »
And moreover Pakistani government call themselves gov of an Islamic republic still they get involved in all kinds of corruption seriously it is heartbreaking

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2017, 10:11:30 PM »
Here in India we have to live to the mercy of majority Hindus and now a days they are even demanding to ban loudspeakers in mosques and people are being killed for not saying hail Lord ram but still we do not surrender to extremism

 

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