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Thanks for your answer.

#Question 2
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Salahuddin, I suggest you read the accomplishments of a prominent Greek physician, surgeon and philosopher in the Roman empire name Claudius Galenus or Galen - born AD 129. He was the most accomplished of all medical researchers of antiquity. He was also before Mohammed.

From the Quran:
Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay); Then we placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood, then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump, then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, The Best to create!"

From Galen:
But when it has been filled with blood (Arabic Alaqa), and heart, brain and liver are still unarticulated and unshaped yet have by now a certain solidarity and considerable size, this is the second period; the substance of the foetus has the form of flesh and no longer the form of semen.

This means that the reproductive system was already told by Galen before the Quran.So it means its not a miracle :(

AsalamuAlaikum,

For now read:

http://islampapers.com/2011/10/02/does-the-quran-plagiarse-ancient-greek-embryology/

http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/essays-articles/prophetic-studies/did-the-prophet-muhammad-plagiarise-hellenic-embryology/

And watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdlIs0sgMx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX9vZr6Zxis

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Jazakallah Khair Dawud :) Thank you ;)

#Question 4
Now here are some small questions that are not posted by critics but are by me now the question is that from my childhood i have been listening that " Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) forgave that women who always threw trash and when she got ill the Prophet visited her and she accepted Islam" and the other is that The Prophet once went to Taif and there people threw stones and they threw stones so much that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) whole shoes were filled with blood and he forgave them


So i need these Hadiths please and if they are any more regarding love with children and enemies then please also provide those too.


For the story of the woman and the trash. I have personally never been able to find the hadeeths for this. Although it is a famous story.

The story of Ta'if is narrated in many ahadith and including in all the works of history including Al-Bidayah Wa Niyahah by Ibn Kathir.

Because of like of time one can read Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum - The Sealed Nectar p.162 onwards.

p.136 in this addition:

http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/the-sealed-nectar.pdf

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#Question 5

Here is a video https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152782775073268&set=vb.40203553267&type=2&theater

In This video the Prophet told these incidents will happen regarding ISIS and Syria but i never heard the name of these Hadith like

1 . (al-Ghaybah Nomani, p. 228) and (Hadith from the Compilation of Jalâleddin Suyuti, The Portents of the Mahdi of the End Times, p.61, hadith no. 7.77)

Are they really Hadiths or something else?

Allah Knows Best.

They appear to be taken from books that discuss the end times. Such as the book by Suyuti.

However if all those hadeeth are authentic I dont know.

Black banners is mentioned in many hadeeth such as:

http://www.sunnah.com/urn/1291820

http://www.sunnah.com/urn/1291840

But I dont know there authenticity.

Allah Knows Best.

Im revising for an exam atm. In shaa Allah I can help more after.

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But you didn't explained this

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“…and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought.  Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners.  I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children [escaping in the distance].  I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain.  When they saw the arrow, they stopped.  So I brought them, driving them along” (Sahin Muslim 4345)

I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize.  So we arrived in Medina.  I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: “Give me that girl.” (Sahih Muslim 4345)

waiting for the final and good answer :)

I made a post regarding the translation of the hadeeth that I talked about before:

http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/the-mistranslation-of-hadeeth-in-sunan.html

Im unsure the issue of the hadeeth in Saheeh Muslim. The Sahabi simply shot an arrow which would stop them from running away. After a battle your not going to let woman and children to run off into the desert and die are you? Instead you would ensure they are safe, feed them etc.

Now lets read the whole hadeeth:

It has been narrated on the authority of Salama (b. al-Akwa') who said:

We fought against the Fazara and Abu Bakr was the commander over us. He had been appointed by the Messenger oi Allah (ﷺ). When we were onlv at an hour's distance from the water of the enemy, Abu Bakr ordered us to attack. We made a halt during the last part of the night tor rest and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along. Among them was a woman from Banu Fazara. She was wearing a leather coat. With her was her daughter who was one of the prettiest girls in Arabia. I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) met me in the street and said: Give me that girl, O Salama. I said: Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her. When on the next day. the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ag;tin met me in the street, he said: O Salama, give me that girl, may God bless your father. I said: She is for you. Messenger of Allah! By Allah. I have not yet disrobed her. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) sent her to the people of Mecca, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Mecca.

http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/32/54

The shortened and cuttened version makes it out as if the Prophet SAW took her for himself. But he didnt.

He wished to take the girl in order to ransom her for Muslims who had been captured and made prisoner in Mecca.



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My understanding is that sunni Muslims like yourself reject hadiths if they contradict the Quran.

Well, I'm pleased to tell you that the Quran does not permit raping of female slaves. Now the rejection of those hadiths is up to you:

http://quransmessage.com/articles/sex%20with%20slave%20girls%20FM3.htm

"Scripture has never permitted men to engage in sex outside the institution of marriage whether this is from the category of free believing women, or from the category of 'right hands possess'."

Islam doesnt teach the raping of anyone?

Im unsure where you got that from akhi.


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AsalamuAlaikum,

They begin to use different numbering system in book 65.

They begin to use the Arabic Numbering system. Rather than the English.

Hence the Change

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Jazak Allah Khairan for the share akhi!

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Does some reading. The hadeeth is Musnad Ahmad #16245.

Will look into it.

For now read:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/explaining-tongue-sucking-hadith.html

However the person as copy and pasted stuff.

And it is very suspicious.

The narrations are from books that are not 100% Saheeh. So the narrations need grading.

This narration here:

رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن
translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) penis.”

Is just weak. Reported At-Tabari in his Al-Kubra (2658 ،12615)
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فيه قابوس بن أبى ظبيان الجنبى الكوفى: لين الحديث
عن يحيى بن معين : ضعيف الحديث .
و قال أحمد بن سعد بن أبى مريم ، عن يحيى بن معين : ثقة جائز الحديث إلا أن
أبى ليلى جلده الحد .
و قال الساجى : ليس بثبت ، يقدم عليا على عثمان ، جاء إلى ابن أبى ليلى فشهد عليه عنده فى قضية ، فحمل عليه ابن أبى ليلى فضربه
و قال أبو حاتم : يكتب حديثه ، و لا يحتج به .
و قال النسائى : ليس بالقوى ، ضعيف .
و قال أبو أحمد بن عدى : أرجو أنه لا بأس به .
و قال البرقانى ، عن الدارقطنى : ضعيف ، و لكن لا يترك .
و قال ابن حبان : كان ردىء الحفظ ، ينفرد عن أبيه بما لا أصل له ، فربما رفع

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=205706
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That above is a list of scholars saying it is weak and un-authentic.

عن يحيى بن معين : ضعيف الحديث

From yahya ibn Mu'in : Da'if (Weak) hadeeth.

و قال النسائى : ليس بالقوى ، ضعيف

An-Nasai said: ليس بالقوى , Da'if (weak)

Etc etc

The list of scholars that say its weak is numerous.

read:

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=205706

This makes me questions those hadeeth shared.

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AsalamuAlaikum,

Your post is confusing. What is the source of these "Ahadith".

Is it Majmu Al-Zawaid or Bukhari?

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AsalamuALaikum,

Because the first Humans were on this earth thousands of years ago.

Hence nothing would survive up to this date.

To believe that there is none worthy of worship except Allah (ISLAM) - is not going to be shown in archaeological evidence.

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Assalam-o-Walaikum,

I Have a question that there are some Hadith that are showing that Muslim man raped female slaves because they were in war and away from there wives. Here are some.

Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers.  So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

The translation is incorrect.

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حَدَّثَنَا عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ بْنِ مَيْسَرَةَ الْقَوَارِيرِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ زُرَيْعٍ، حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ، بْنُ أَبِي عَرُوبَةَ عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنْ صَالِحٍ أَبِي الْخَلِيلِ، عَنْ أَبِي عَلْقَمَةَ الْهَاشِمِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ، الْخُدْرِيِّ أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَوْمَ حُنَيْنٍ بَعَثَ جَيْشًا إِلَى أَوْطَاسٍ فَلَقُوا عَدُوًّا فَقَاتَلُوهُمْ فَظَهَرُوا عَلَيْهِمْ وَأَصَابُوا لَهُمْ سَبَايَا فَكَأَنَّ نَاسًا مِنْ أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَحَرَّجُوا مِنْ غِشْيَانِهِنَّ مِنْ أَجْلِ أَزْوَاجِهِنَّ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ فَأَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ فِي ذَلِكَ ‏{‏ وَالْمُحْصَنَاتُ مِنَ النِّسَاءِ إِلاَّ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ‏}‏ أَىْ فَهُنَّ لَكُمْ حَلاَلٌ إِذَا انْقَضَتْ عِدَّتُهُنَّ ‏.‏

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:
" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).

http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/17/41

It shouldnt have "in the presence of".

The arabic :

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أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَحَرَّجُوا مِنْ غِشْيَانِهِنَّ مِنْ أَجْلِ أَزْوَاجِهِنَّ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ فَأَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ فِي ذَلِكَ

Doesnt contain that.

All the other hadeeth talk about Al-Azl or coitus interruptus.

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So Questions are

Q:Muslims were allowed to have sex "without marriage"?
Q:Explain those Hadith and what is the wisdom?

One can have sex with ones wife and female captives.

I dont see what explanation is needed. They simply state that one can have sex with female captives. And they speak about can one perform coitus interruptus or not.

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AsalamuAlaikum,

And the earth - We have spread it and cast therein firmly set mountains and caused to grow therein [something] of every well-balanced thing. [QUran 15:19]

Then on that Day none will be asked about his sin among men or jinn. [Quran 55:39]

I dont see how they relate?

ThatMuslimGuy
http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/
https://embryologyandquran.wordpress.com/

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AsalamuAlaikum,

Can you post the relevent hadeeth please. Thankyou.


Maybe this is the Hadith which IsaJames is talking about

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Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said. "While I was sleeping, I saw myself (in a dream) performing Tawaf around the Ka`ba. Behold, I saw a reddish-white man with lank hair, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, "Who is this?' They replied, 'The son of Mary.' Then I turned my face to see another man with a huge body, red complexion and curly hair and blind in one eye. His eye looked like a protruding out grape. They said (to me), He is Ad-Dajjal." The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The man he resembled most is Ibn Qatan, a man from the tribe of Khuza`a.

Sahih Bukhari Vol. 9, Book 88, Hadith 242

Jazak Allah Khair.

Yes Ive read this hadeeth. Im just interested in the one where it says he dark or brown?

Brother ThatMuslimGuy
http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/
https://embryologyandquran.wordpress.com/

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AsalamuAlaikum,

Can you post the relevent hadeeth please. Thankyou.

ThatMuslimGuy
http://quran-errors.blogspot.co.uk/
https://embryologyandquran.wordpress.com/

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