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Paul serve(ed) God

The only God that Paul served was revealed to him by Jesus on Paul's mission to Damascus ( to arrest Christians ) and

 that vision and revelation by Jesus blinded Paul for three days in which Paul went into a deep fasting without food or drink until

 a disciple of Christ showed up to heal Paul of his blindness and after Paul was baptized,

 Paul stopped arresting Christians and the Christians were surprised to see Paul on the side of Jesus, preaching the good news of salvation in Christ

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the Qur'an claims that Jesus was never God.

The Quran  says that Jesus was not the biological son of God  and

 the Quran says that Jesus was not God on earth

and the Quran says that Jesus was never  God the Son but

 the Quran not once said that Jesus was never God

, from the moment of his creation by God, always remained human.

According to the Koran, the Spirit of God was sent to Mary and there is no indication in the Koran that the Spirit of God never entered Mary's womb

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but still with God-status

Jesus does not have God-status in the bible, just as the Koran calls Jesus, son of Mary ( not biological son of Mary ), the bible calls Jesus, Son of God ( not biological son of God ), so the status of Jesus is completely human and Jesus remains human in heaven and Jesus today is not God or God the Father.

Nowhere in the bible does it say that Jesus is God the Son but rather the Son of God, just as the Koran calls Jesus, the son of Mary (both meaning, not biological in nature )

"worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord."

Christians agree with the Koran because

I personally do not know of any Christians who worship Jesus;

 its always worshipping the Father ( In Jesus Name ) in other words,

 we pray to God the Father because Jesus told us to


Indeed, he who associates others with Allah -

Jesus is not God the Son, so God does not have any associates today.

There is only one God and Jesus is not God today, either on earth or in heaven, Jesus was always Son of God ( not biological Son )  and not God the Son

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  there was a part of God i.e. Jesus, that became human on Earth

When the Spirit of God entered Mary's womb, that Spirit had already separated from God ( the Father ) so the best analogy in biology is called  binary fission where a single cell can split into two (example: amoeba ), in this case, one remained God and the other became fully human


Also, why refer to Jesus as "the 'trinity' on earth [i.e.] 'mind, body, spirit' was fully human". Aren't all humans "fully human in mind, fully human in spirit and fully human in body"?

Yes, all human beings are trinities of mind, body and spirit and the bible does back up the Koran in saying that Jesus was fully human on earth, ( fully human in mind, fully human in spirit and fully human in body )

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the son of Mary

Notice the word " son " is used in the Koran but not in the biological sense since Mary was not the biological mother of Jesus, so

 the Koran is not against the word "son" since the gospel refers to Jesus as the Son of God but not in the biological sense

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Christians (at-least one group of them) believe in the "hypostatic union"

Yes, the "hypostatic union Christians" is one group of Christians that the Koran is against, which is, the group that says that Jesus was God on earth but

 as to other christians who believe that Jesus was not God on earth, the Koran does not address those  Christians who believe that Jesus was God but

Jesus is not God anymore since He was born inside Mary's womb when God's Spirit entered Mary's womb to become fully human

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Allah is the Messiah

I do not know of any Christian who says that God is the Messiah, but rather Jesus is the Messiah


worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord.

The gospel says that Jesus did say to worship God because

 Jesus was no longer God on earth but fully human in mind, fully human in spirit and fully human in body ( the "trinity" on earth, "mind, body, spirit" was fully human )


  he who associates others with Allah   

Here again, its clear from the gospel that Jesus clearly told his followers, that God is God and Jesus is fully human and so God in heaven was all by Himself without any associates


    He created him from dust 

The creation of Adam and Jesus being born in Mary's womb is  very different, Adam  was created from dust and the Jesus was not from dust but by God's Spirit going into the womb of Mary

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There are three types of Christians that the Koran is against:

(1) Those Christians who believe that Jesus is the biological son of God ( offspring )

(2) Those Christians who believe that Mary is also God

(3) Those Christians who believe that Jesus was fully God on earth.

So if any Christian does not believe any of the 3 above but

 still believes that Jesus was God before coming to earth to become fully human in mind, body and spirit ( the trinity of mind, body and spirit ) on earth,

 that type of Christian does not go against the teachings of the Koran since the Koran is only against Jesus being fully God on earth

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So Paul served God then and what does the Koran say about Paul's mission on earth ?

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The following does meet the requirements of the Koran :

It is possible for Jesus to be totally human if Jesus had a human body, a human mind and a human spirit,

Thanks for your explanation, but do you have anything in the Koran that contradicts the statement made above ?

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How can Jesus be GOD Almighty

The following does meet the requirements of the Koran :

It is possible for Jesus to be totally human if Jesus had a human body, a human mind and a human spirit, in other words,

 the "trinity" of Jesus; body, mind and spirit could be totally human but that does not mean that

 Jesus was never God because Jesus could have been God before He came to earth to be fully man in body, mind and spirit ( the "trinity" of body, mind and spirit on earth )

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Saul was an enemy of the Christians and was on a mission to imprison or even kill Christians when He met Jesus on the road to Damascus.

 The vision of Jesus made Saul temporarily blind and the words of Christ and the mission that Christ gave Saul,

 sent Saul into deep fasting ( no drinking or eating for three days )  and  while in deep prayer  a few days later, a disciple of Christ came to heal Saul of his blindness.

 Saul who became Paul the Apostle, who after having spent some days with Christ disciples went about preaching and doing miracles.

So is Paul at the same level as the Prophets of  God ?

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So if the Devil is in a state of apostasy and God is in the same location as the Devil ( since God is everywhere ) what is the conversation between God and the Devil and how do they spend their time interacting with  each other ?

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If you believe that God is everywhere, does that mean God is also in the same physical place the Devil is at ?

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Atheism is not a religion. That leaves Islam to be the fastest growing religion.

What does Allah think of Atheists ?

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