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I am actually warning you in a nice way.
Stop making stupid topics and believing everything you read.
Abrogation did exist. For example, Alcohol for the muslims used to be forbidden, they were allowed to drink it but they were not allowed to pray salah whilst intoxicated, but later on it was abrogated, and made forbidden.

HERE'S A TIP OF ADVICE. - GO AND STUDY THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET. You seem like a smart brother, instead of asking these stupid questions, YOU COULD HAVE STUDIED THE LIFE OF THE PROPHET EASILY. And I'm not speaking of reading books, listen to a biography of the Prophet (May Allah send peace and blessings upon him) as they explain ahadith too, it's a dangerous thing to interpret ahadith yourself. If you would've studied the life of the Prophet, you would HAVE KNOWN THIS, this is something minor.


Now for mclinkin94, this is NOT a warning. I will answer your question related to the Jew lol.

You wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u26tG1v4I9o

His only argument was that Judaism came from Islam.

He said things like:

Islam does Jewish customs more perfectly than Jews
Islamic philosophy is extremely powerful
Once a person converts to Islam, its hard to make them Jewish.

In this video, he shows how the Hijab is a Jewish custom adopted by the Quran!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysHBoQsg9e4
-Wouldn't it make sense for Allah to uphold such a custom?


I ask everyone to put it in context and reflect:

1.) Which religion is more corrupted, Christianity or Judaism?
2.) Of question #1, does it make more sense that Islam is closer to Judaism? "

Are you being serious here? You do realise in Mosaic law, women were required to be covered too right? Claiming that the hijab is "COPIED" from Judaism is stupid. In fact, this is so idiotic. Mary, the mother of Jesus (May Allah send peace and blessings upon Jesus) wore a veil according to images drawn by them, it's jews today who do NOT uphold their teachings. Muhammad is a messenger of God just like Moses is, the only difference is, the law of Muhammad abrogates the law of Moses. Pork is forbidden in the Old testament, and we as musims are forbidden to eat pork too, what is that now an accusation too? These jews are silly. Yes, Islam is more closer to Judaism. Christianity is a corrupt faith, it is a movement created by Paul, NOT JESUS. Jesus did NOT refer to himself as a Christian, neither did he create such. Moses too was NOT a jew, but was a Levite. Jews are so far astray, in fact some of them believe in REINCARNATION and reject the belief of yawm-al-qiyamah!, That's how far astray they have gone!.
The word hijab merely means a "Veil", it does not refer to just an headscarf, it refers to a veil which covers the whole body. So wearing a piece of cloth around your head but wearing tight jeans is such stupidity.

Examples:

We BOTH only can eat meat slaughtered in the name of Allah
We BOTH only can worship Allah alone, without ascribing partners to Him.
We BOTH are required to grow beards. (It's wajib according to scholars)
We BOTH have to follow the commandments of Allah

As I mentioned, the law of Muhammad abrogates the law of Moses, so as Muslims, we do not have to follow the Sabbath, where on yawm-al-sabt we have to not work, this is not a law for us. It is abrogated. We have to pray 5 times a day, whereas they are required to pray 3 times daily. They have to fast on the passover, it is not compulsory for us to do so and so on. I can go on.

Claiming Judaism came from Islam is silly, because I can make the same claim as his belief, I can claim that "Judaism" came from the religion of Ibraheem (May Allah send peace upon him) because Ibraheem CERTAINLY was NOT a jew or a Christian. The Judaism "movement" came later.

Ask a Shiite if you meet one:

 " You claim that Aisha did adultery and betrayed the Prophet (Peace and blessings be upon him), so why didn't Allah warn the prophet of this like he warned Lut (peace be upon him) of his wife and the same with Noah and his son that was drowned? (I think that's right). "

What do you guys think?

Asalamulaykum everyone,

I am going to update this topic later, going to do a comparison between the Shiite's '12th Imam', their savior and compare him to the Messiah the Jews are waiting for, his emergence. You don't have to believe anything I say obviously, but it will shock you how the Shiite's religion is so similar to Judaism in practice and rituals etc, and how there 'hidden' 12th Mahdi is so similar to the Dajjal (The imposter all prophets warned about, and the one Jesus (Peace be upon him) warned his people about as the anti-christ).

Salaam.

There are several key verses which Christians use to prove the biblical origin of the Trinity.  Upon analysis of these verses, one can clearly see that they do not prove the Trinity, but rather the same monotheistic message of God.  One of the most frequently cited passages from the Bible is Isaiah 9:6-7, from which Christians conclude that the Messiah must be God incarnate.  The passage states:

“or a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.  There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness from then on and forevermore the zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this.”

That Isaiah 9:6 has been misinterpreted can be seen from the fact that Jesus is never called the “Eternal Father” anywhere else in Bible.  Since the Trinitarian doctrine teaches that Christians should “neither confound the Persons nor divide the Substance” (Athanasian Creed), how can the Trinitarians accept that Jesus is the “Eternal Father”? Let us consider additional facts impartially.

First, all the Hebrew verb forms in Isaiah 9:6 are in the past tense.  For example, the word which the Christian Bibles render as “his name will be called” is the two words ‘vayikra shemo,’ which properly translated, should read “his name was called.”  The word “vayikra” is the first word to appear in the book of Leviticus (1:1), and it is translated properly over there – in the past tense.  In addition, the King James Version translates the same verbs elsewhere in the past tense in Genesis 4:26 and Isaiah 5:25.  Only in Isaiah 9:6-7 are these verbs translated in the future tense!

Notice that it says “a child HAS been born to us.”  This is an event that has just occurred, not a future event.  Isaiah is not making a prophecy, but recounting history.  A future event would say a child will be born to us, but this is NOT what the verse says.  The Christian translations capitalize the word ‘son’ assuming that this is a messianic prophecy and the names of a divine son.

Second, the two letter word “is”, is usually not stated in Hebrew.  Rather, “is” is understood.  For example, the words “hakelev” (the dog) and “gadol” (big), when joined into a sentence - hakelev gadol - means “the dog IS big,” even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word “is.”  A more accurate translation of the name of that child, then, would be “A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father ...”.  This name describes God, not the person who carries the name.  The name Isaiah itself means “God is salvation,” but no one believes the prophet himself is God in a human body!

Third, the phrase “Mighty God” is a poor translation according to some biblical scholars.  Although English makes a clear distinction between “God” and “god,” the Hebrew language, which has only capital letters, cannot.  The Hebrew word “God” had a much wider range of application than it does in English.  Some suggest a better translation for the English reader would be “mighty hero,” or “divine hero.”  Both Martin Luther and James Moffatt translated the phrase as “divine hero” in their Bibles.

Fourth, according to the New Testament, Jesus was never called any of these names in his lifetime.

Fifth, if Isaiah 9:6 is taken to refer to Jesus, then Jesus is the Father!  And this is against the Trinitarian doctrine.

Sixth, the fact that the New Testament does not quote this passage shows that even the New Testament authors didn’t take this verse to be in reference to Jesus.

Seventh, the passage is talking about the wonders performed by the Lord for Hezekiah, king of Judah.  Preceding verses in Isaiah 9 talk of a great military triumph by Israel over its enemies.  At the time Isaiah is said to have written this passage, God had just delivered King Hezekiah and Jerusalem from a siege laid by the Assyrians under General Sennacherib.  The deliverance is said to have been accomplished in spectacular fashion: an angel went into the Assyrian camp and killed 185,000 soldiers while they slept.  When Sennacherib awoke to find his army decimated, he and the remaining soldiers fled, where he was assassinated by his own sons (Isaiah 37:36-38).  Chapters 36 and 37 of Isaiah recount how Hezekiah stood firm in the face of Sennacherib’s vast army and his blasphemous words against the God.  When all seemed lost, Hezekiah continued to trust in the Lord, and for this he was rewarded with a miraculous victory.  It is interesting to note that the statement, “the zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this,” found at the end of Isaiah 9:7, is found in only two other places in the Bible: Isaiah 37:32 and 2 Kings 19:31.  Both these passages discuss the miraculous deliverance of Hezekiah by God.  Therefore, in light of the above, Isaiah is recounting God’s defense of Jerusalem during the Assyrian siege.  Furthermore, Soncino’s commentary says the chapter is about the fall of Assyria and the announcement of the birth of Hezekiah, the son of Ahaz.

The Hebrew name “Immanuel” can be translated as, “God with us” or “God is with us.” Some people believe, based on Isaiah 7:14, that because Jesus would be called “Immanuel,” he must be God incarnate.  Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23 are often read around Christmas.  They are read as follows:

Isaiah 7:14 “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”

Matthew 1:23 “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

First, the prophesy states that his name will be Immanuel.”

It does not say that “he will be Immanuel.”

Second, Mary never called her child “Immanuel” as required by the prophecy.  According to the Bible, she named him Jesus following instructions by the angel of God.

Matthew 1:25 “but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a son; and he called His name Jesus.”

Luke 1:30-31 “The angel said to her, ‘Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God.  And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus.”

Third, when read in context, the birth and naming of the child Immanuel was to be a sign for king Ahaz that God was with his people who were about to be invaded by two rival kingdoms (Isa 7:10-16).  The promise was fulfilled by God (2 Kings 16:9).  The name “God is with us,” means that God will support us.[1]  The name makes perfect sense if the child’s name was supposed to indicate to King Ahaz that God was on his side.

Isa 7:10-16 “Again the Lord spoke to Ahaz, ‘Ask the Lord your God for a sign, whether in the deepest depths or in the highest heights.’ But Ahaz said, ‘I will not ask; I will not put the Lord to the test.’ Then Isaiah said, ‘Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of men?  Will you try the patience of my God also?  Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.  He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right.  But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste.”

2 Kings 16:9 The king of Assyria complied by attacking Damascus and capturing it.  He deported its inhabitants to Kir and put Rezin to death.

Fourth, Isaiah 7:14 in actual Hebrew does not say a virgin would give birth but that a young woman would conceive.  The Hebrew word almah, used in Isaiah 7:14 means young woman or maiden, not a virgin.  The Hebrew word for virgin is b’tulah.  The RSV (Revised Standard Version) Bible is one of the few Christian Bibles that used the translation ‘young woman’ instead of replacing it with the word ‘virgin.’

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign.  Behold, a young woman shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Imman’u-el.

Fifth, when something is “called” a certain name, it does not mean that the thing is literally what it is called.  Symbolic names are frequently used by Hebrews in the Bible.  Many names would cause great problems if taken literally.  Jerusalem is called “the Lord our Righteousness,” and Jerusalem is obviously not God (Jer. 33:16).  In Genesis 32:30, we are told that Jacob called a piece of land “Face of God.”  Abraham called the mountain on which he was about to sacrifice Ishmael “the Lord will provide,” yet no one would believe that the mountain was God.  Similarly, no one would believe an altar was God, even if Moses called it that: “Moses built an altar and called it ‘the Lord is my Banner’” (Ex. 17:15).  Would Christians believe that Elijah was “God Jehovah,” or that Bithiah, a daughter of Pharaoh, was the sister of Jesus because her name means “daughter of Jehovah?”  Do Christians believe that Dibri, not Jesus, was the “Promise of Jehovah,” or that Eliab was the real Messiah since his name means “My God (is my) father?”  Similarly, would they say that Jesus Bar-Abbas, who avoided crucifixion by being set free (Mat.  27:15-26)[2], was the son of God because his name meant “Jesus, son of his Father”?  Of course not.

We can conclude that reading Jesus as the fruition of a prophecy in Isaiah is only due to Matthew quoting the prophecy, rather than people actually calling Jesus Immanuel in his lifetime.  Furthermore, even if his name was Immanuel, the name does not necessarily reflect the fact, as can be seen from other names linked with God (in the Hebrew forms of El or Yah) belonging to other people.  Making the claim that Immanuel means Jesus God in the flesh among His people is therefore merely  an example of how the Trinitarian doctrine of incarnation was forced upon the message of Jesus by “bending” prophecies.

The above was taken from Islamreligion.com

Salaam all,

I am not going to be using this forum anymore, it's good, but I will only focus on studying about the Prophets (Peace and blessings be upon them all), the life of the prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him), the sahaba (May Allah be pleased with them), and prayer etc.

It's scary to realise that on the day of Qiyamah people will go against each other, and I don't want to die before then being unprepared!

Reading stories of the Prophets (Peace be upon them all) is amazing, especially how strong in faith they were, and It makes me want to be glorifying and worshipping Allah alone and thinking of Allah all day etc.

So once again, salaam to you all.

Forgive me if i have done anything to upset any of you or hurt you in anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_gIqot7LlM

I will reply in parts, obviously because topics can't put everything I wrote up in it.

Part 1:

Firstly, I'll begin with saying that, Dajjal will be a literal person, and the system of freemasonry is his system. Lmao.
Firstly, let's look at the following ahadith.

"...Tamim Dari said, 'When it named a man for us, we fled away from it lest it might be the devil. Then we hurriedly went on until we entered the monastery and found a big-bodied man whom we had never seen before. He was firmly tied up, his hands tied to his neck, the place between his knees, and joints tied up with iron chains.' We asked, 'Woe to thee! What are thou?' He replied, 'You have the power to get my information. Inform me about yourselves.

' They replied, 'We are people from Arabia, we embarked upon a sea boat, but the sea waves played with us for a month and threw us onto this island. A beast of coarse hairs met us and said, 'I am a spy. Go to the man in the monastery.' So we approached you hurriedly. He asked, 'Tell me about the trees of Baisan. Do they bear fruit?.' 'Yes' We replied. He said, 'Behold! Soon they will not yield fruit.' He asked, 'Inform me of the lake of Tiberias. Is there water in it?' We replied, 'It is full of water.' He informed us, 'Soon its water will disappear.' He then asked, 'Inform me of the fountain of Zugara. Is there water in it and do its inhabitants irrigate with the water of the fountain?' 'Yes, it is full of water and it's inhabitants irrigate from its water. He asked, 'Inform me of the Prophet of the illiterates. What does he do?' We said, 'He has just come out of Makkah and gone to Yathrib.' He asked, 'Have the Arabs fought with him?' 'Yes' We replied. He asked, 'How did he treat them' We informed him that he had got the upper hand of those of the Arabs who opposed him and they obeyed him. He said, 'Behold! It is better for them if they obey him. As for myself I am certainly the Anti-Christ and it is near that an order will be passed for me to come out. I shall then come out and travel the world. I shall leave no village at which I shall not land within 40 nights except Makkah and Taibah, which will be forbidden to me. Whenever I wish to enter one of the two, an angel with a sword in his hand will encounter me and prevent me therefrom. There will be angels on every side to guard it.

The apostle of Allah struck his pulpit with his staff and said, 'This is Taibah meaning Madinah. Behold! Did I not tell you?' 'Yes' they replied. 'Behold, he is in the Syrian sea or sea of Yemen; no, rather he is from the eastern direction. He then pointed out with his hand to wards the East.'

[Sahih Muslim]

Tamim Dari was a Christian who converted to Islam. The following hadith above, proves that Dajjal is a literal person. Let's continue, the point made is that that the Dajjal
will ONLY come when the sea of galilee dries up.
Is the sea of galilee still here today?
Yes it is, so well done you failed, claiming that Christianity is the 'Dajjal', what a fool.
The Sea of galilee is proven to dry up soon, as in the next 20 years or so.

Here's the sea of galilee drying up rapidly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZgjIe83HIg.

Now you made a dumb claim, of claiming that Christianity is the Dajjal, and you said that it was 'present tense', are you an idiot or what?
Do you know that it was only during the caliph era of Umar R.A that only Islam was to be practiced in Mecca, when the prophet said this, there were Christians
and Jews in Mecca. Once again, you failed, because you're claiming that Dajjal is 'Christianity' and Christians who worshipped Jesus (Peace be upon him)
were already in Mecca when the Prophet (peace and blessings upon him) spoke of it.

He is not literally one eyed, as a cyclops. He is blind in one eye.

' . Allah is not one eyed while Messiah, Ad-Dajjal is blind in the right eye and his eye looks like a bulging out grape.[3]
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said. "While I was sleeping, I saw myself (in a dream) performing Tawaf around the Ka'ba. Behold, I saw a reddish-white man with lank hair, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, "Who is this?' They replied, 'The son of Mary.' Then I turned my face to see another man with a huge body, red complexion and curly hair and blind in one eye. His eye looked like a protruding out grape. They said (to me), he is Ad-Dajjal." The Prophet added, "The man he resembled most is Ibn Qatan, a man from the tribe of Khuza'a."[4]
Narrated Ibn Umar: Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved. Then, mentioning Dajjal, he said, "I warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."[5]'
 
He is BLIND in his right eye, he is not a cyclops as you believe we believe, lmao.

Also, when the Dajjal comes, after the sea of galilee dries up ofcourse, there would be 7 Entrances in Medina, and angels would be guarding them all preventing him from coming.
You said it was 'present' from, only recently have 7 entrances have come into Medina, there are 7 today, we are likely to come across the Dajjal in 20 years or so, if we live till then, Allah knows best.
Why am I telling you? You claimed that Mecca/Medina becoming a fully islamic state means that Angels will guard it, at the time the ahadith of there will 7 entrances guarded, there were no gates etc lmao.
Even the tafsir, the recorders thought it meant the mountains surrounding medina, so once again you failed, because Christianity (The Constantine form) existed way before that.
So shut up with your bogus claims claiming that Christianity is the Dajjal.
70,000 jews along with magicians with follow the Dajjal. Since when do modern-day Jews follow Christianity? Are you stupid?
Okay, let's say that Christianity was the ADjjal and the other religions who come from it are the Dajjal too, Do you know that people have pretended to be muslim and have entered Mecca/Medina?
Lmao, you are a fool. To continue, Jews/Christians like I said lived in the Medina when the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was there, so it's not the Dajjal.
The Dajjal is a literal person, whom the freemasons are awaiting actually, they are waiting for 'horus' to return.

You wrote '  Resurrecting the dead - Horus could 'resurrect the dead (crops)'. Obviously if you take the hadith on this literally (Sahih Bukhari 3.106) you are committing shirk. Christian Jesus could resurrect the dead, remember? '
Isa Aleyhi salam could give life to the dead, with Allah's permission.So what are you on about?

The Dajjal will appear somewhere between Iran and syria[citation needed] and will travel the whole world preaching his falsehood, but will be unable to enter Mecca or Medina.[3] Isa (Jesus) will return and the Dajjal will gather an army of 70,000 people, of those he has deceived and lead them in a war against Jesus, who shall be accompanied by an army of the righteous.
Christianity, modern Pauline Christianity emerged from Constantine, so well done, you failed again. 

Your views of the Dajjal being 'Christianity' are Ahmadiya beliefs, but who cares, Ahmadiya are not muslims.I'm not saying you are Ahmadiya.
So watch where you get your 'points' from.

Travels in the clouds?
The Dajjal will travel or a iron donkey, which refers to a aircraft, people won't ride on top of the donkey but inside it, so what crap are you talking about about horus? Lmao.
Now this proves how deluded you are, lmao.
Weather control - One of the more obvious ones. When the Sun has fewer sunspots, it gives off less energy, less energy makes its way to Earth, and our planet cools down.
You wrote that, ever heard of HAARP? Weather control by Dajjal is reffering to that, not this foolish theory you are claiming of.

Now, more signs of Dajjal's appearance which have not appeared yet, so it means he has NOT come:



" Jabir Ibn 'Abdullah said, "The Prophet said, 'The Dajjal will appear at the end of time, when religion is taken lightly. He will have 40 days in which to travel throughout the earth. One of these days will be like a year, another will be like a month, a third will be like a week, and the rest will be like normal days. He will be riding a donkey; the width between its ears will be 40 cubits. He will say to the people: "I am your lord." He is one-eyed, but your Lord is not one-eyed. On his forehead will be written the word Kafir, and every believer, literate or illiterate, will be able to read it. He will go everywhere except Makkah and Madina, which Allah has forbidden to him; angels stand at their gates. He will have a mountain of bread, and the people will face hardship, except for those who follow him. He will have two rivers, and I know what is in them. He will call one Paradise and one Hell. Whoever enters the one he calls Paradise will find that it is Hell, and whoever enters the one he calls Hell will find that it is Paradise. Allah will send with him devils who will speak to the people. He will bring a great tribulation; he will issue a command to the sky and it will seem to the people as if it is raining. Then he will appear to kill someone and bring him back to life. After that he will no longer have this power. The people will say, "Can anybody do something like this except the Lord?" The Muslims will flee to Jabal al-Dukhan in Syria, and the Dajjal will come and besiege them. The siege will intensify and they will suffer great hardship. Then Isa (Jesus) son of Mary will descend, and will call the people at dawn: "O people, what prevented you from coming out to fight this evil liar?" They will answer, "He is a Jinn." Then they will go out, and find Isa (Jesus) son of Mary. The time for prayer will come, and the Muslims will call on Isa (Jesus) to lead the prayer, but he will say, "Let your Imam lead the prayer." Their Imam will lead them in praying Salat al-Subh (Morning prayer), then they will go out to fight the Dajjal. When the liar sees Isa (Jesus), he will dissolve like salt in water. Isa (Jesus) will go to him and kill him, and he will not let anyone who followed him live'." (Ahmad). "

You do know that the resurrection theory is not linking to Horus and resurrecting you clown, Dajjal will use jinn and will say to man 'if I brought back so and so of yours, will you believe I am Lord', and he use Jinn and make them appear in the form of the person's so and so.
So once again, shut up.

The Prophet (peace be upon him) thought a man from Medina was the Dajjal too:

Claims of prophethood in childhood

Ibn Sayyad, claimed he was a prophet when he was on the threshold of adolescence, and was initially believed to be the False Messiah (Dajjal), as his characteristics were the same as those of the False Messiah:
It was narrated that Muhammad met Ibn Sayyad, at that time Ibn Sayyad was just at the threshold of adolescence. Muhammad said: "Don't you bear testimony to the fact that I am the Messenger of Allah?" Ibn Sayyad said: "No, but you should bear testimony that I am the messenger of Allah." Thereupon `Umar ibn Khattab said: "Allah's Messenger, permit me that I should kill him." Thereupon Muhammad said: "If he is that person who is in your mind (i.e. the Dajjal), you would not be able to kill him."[1]
[edit]Characteristics
His characteristics were similar to those believed to be of the False Messiah:
Nafi' reported that `Abd Allah ibn `Umar met Ibn Sa'id on some of the paths of Medina and he said to him a word which enraged him and he was so much swollen with anger that the way was blocked. Ibn `Umar went to Hafsa bint Umar and informed her about this. Thereupon she said: May Allah have mercy upon you, why did you tease Ibn Sayyad, even if you knew it would be the extreme anger which would make Dajjal appear in the world?[2]

The whole point of the Dajjal, is to mimic Isa Aleyhisalam, and the Jews are still waiting for a 'messiah' after rejected Isa Aleyhisalam, they will be waiting for the Dajjal.

A lengthy hadith narrated by Ibn Majah, Ibn Khuzaimah, and ad-Dhiyaa

What would you do in Jannah? Inshallah if we make it...

I have a list of things I would do, I'm going to post it in abit, what would you do?