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A load of farces really . What is there to refute ? All of them are ridiculous foolish , hateful accusations with nothing backing them up . So let me get this straight : If people are saying something and telling stories about it and then Quran says that they are indeed correct , how on Earth does that mean it isn't from Allah ? And how do you even know that they aren't true .
And really ? You're ready to go that low ? Prophet Muhammad took all of this from other scriptures ? See people , this is what happens when you take drugs ! The mad man is saying that the prophet peace upon him who couldn't read or write ay language and didn't leave his land was actually able to read Jewish and Christian and Hindu scriptures !
Come one people ! A little thinking spares us a load of madness .

The noble Quran is miraculous in many things . Literately , scientifically , historically , and other fields . Mainly , Quran challenged people to bring forth something as miraculous as itself literately and not even the most eloquent Arabians could get close to it and that's what they admit . So indeed , let them bring forth their proof of truthful .

1.) It seems like you have been proving your lack of understanding in Hadiths. Rather, I think those with understanding of hadiths and intellectual honesty cannot come to believe them. Unfortunately, not many muslims question their faith.

Meaningless rant with nothing to back it up .

2.) Do I accuse the companions of Hypocrisy, or does ALLAH rightfully tell you some of them are hypocrites. Stop deny Quran in favor of hadith. QUran 9:101 is clear.

Already explained and you already ignored .

3.) You said that if we follow that line of thinking, we must accuse the Quran of corruption. I fail to see why. Are you saying that the Quran or I said that ALL the companions were hypocrites? Are you saying that all the companions got together and corrupted the Quran? Very unlikely.  Are you saying we don't have manuscripts that show us the Quran in its form? I don't think so. We see different forms of the same hadith, just like we do of the bible.

Yes . Following your line of thinking leads to nothing but this . What evidence do you have that these people called "Companions"didn't corrupt Quran ? What evidence do you have that it wasn't altered through time ? What evidence do you even have that there was a man called Muhammad - peace upon him - who came with a message called Quran ?

All it takes is ONE companion to corrupt a saying of the prophet Muhammad (no one really memorized every saying).

I'll believe Allah and throw whatever anyone else says aside . Allah says he is pleased of the companions and says they are truthful . End of the story .

Did Allah let Muhammad know who the hypocrites were? Of course not. That would contradict Quran 9:101. Instead Allah tells the prophet (pbuh) that if he finds out the hypocrites to fight them. Why? So it could ensure that hypocrites don't join Islam. Its simple. You make something so simple, so complex. You cannot reject the Quran. Quran 9:101 says that there are hypocrites among the prophet and the prophet does not know them, and they will be punished in the hereafter.

Really , there is no cure for sheer and utter ignorance and arrogance . If someone keeps ignoring whatever kills his claims then we know that he has no valued argument .

That's easy! Firstly it is noted that Bukhari and the other scientists obviously excluded the hadiths that they thought contradicted the Quran. Unfortunately, for them, the Quran's understanding is not fixed with time. There are many many multi-layered understandings within the Quran and Quran 3:7 states that itself.

There is a huge difference between signs which can be explained differently and signs which ignorants explain acrobatically to suit their desires . The signs which say that Christians are disbelievers are clear and can never be interrupted differently . That's one example . And from the most basics of Hadith is that if there is a saying contradicting Quran with absolutely no way of explaining both correctly then it must be wrong or fabricated . Before that , you'll find the chain itself weak .

But here are some lists of contradictions from "authentic" hadiths:
"I do not say to you that I possess the treasures of God. NOR DO I KNOW THE UNSEEN. Nor do I say to you that I am an angel. I simply follow what is revealed to me." Say, "Is the blind the same as the seer? Do you not reflect?"6:50
The Prophet said, "Verily! 70,000 or 700,000 of my followers will enter Paradise altogether; so that the first and the last amongst them will enter at the same time, and their faces will be glittering like the bright full moon."

Have not I told you that you'll only find what contradicts your personal liking ? Have not I told you that your ignorance will show more and more with every single line you say ?
The prophet peace upon him doesn't know the unseen , correct . But Quran itself - O one who unjustly claims to follow - says that Allah reveals some of the unseen to his prophets .

Except whom He has approved of messengers, and indeed, He sends before each messenger and behind him observers

So the only contradiction and corruption is in your head really .

Believe me , I know where you come from . Don't think you're unique . There's a load of misguided people like you . You either do this to get attention and feel important or because you're biased an never accept the idea that you're wrong . So far , I used both Quran and Sunnah as testimony . You on the other hand try to use Quran to your desires and fail at it all the time . You don't even know what you quote . I doubt that you even know a thing of Quran except what you try to use in order to misguide others and cause mischief .  I'll just repeat what you run away from answering .

Now let me give you some points demolishing your faith of denying Sunnah .

1 -You claim that Quran says it is the only source . Then why does Quran itself tells us to ask others ?
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    And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men whom We inspired - Ask the followers of the Remembrance if ye know not! -


2 - The ones who wrote Hadith did follow the teachings of Quran and used its way .
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    A - Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."
    B - O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.
    C - And do not be [too] weary to write it, whether it is small or large, for its [specified] term. That is more just in the sight of Allah and stronger as evidence and more likely to prevent doubt between you,
    D - O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin.

In the first one , Quran gives instructions to ask for evidence in anything and not accept whatever told . In the second one , Quran tells us to be investigate what we are told . In the third one , Quran tells us to be patient in investigating evidence . In the fourth one , Quran tells us to not accuse with no proof .
Now , these rules are done correctly by the scholars of Hadith while you who deny Sunnah do the opposite . You don't follow the third one which tells us to be patient in finding evidence . When one writes Hadith , he travels great distances to make sure of every single piece of information he is told . And you who sit in your house with air conditioning have no right object on this method . And when it comes to the forth one , Allah tells us to avoid negative assumptions while you simply say Hadith is corrupted and that the writers are liars and hypocrites . You even go to call the companions hypocrites !!

3 - History mentions a huge range of claims and accusations against Quran and else . Why don't we EVER hear about deniers of Sunnah in the time of the prophet peace upon him and his companions ? Why didn't anyone at all say that we must ONLY follow Quran and abandon anything else ? You talk about baseless theories accusing Hadith and I'm talking rationally here . If this path you're going down is really true , then how come no one noticed ? There's a difference between different explanations of verses and between an essential matter such as this .


4 - Through this method which you hate so much and make fun of , we know that there is a man called "Muhammad" and that there are people who lived with him called "Companions" and that Allah sent a book to him called "Quran" . So without this method , we loose our history . And based on that , anyone can deny that there was ever a man called Muhammad - peace upon him - and and deny that there were companions . In fact , anyone can deny anything with this method you follow . I for example can deny that there was world war one . How can you ever object on me ? I didn't see it and only heard about it from people who heard about it from others . Then it must be a fable .

Good , you finally stopped the play of "Brother" .

1.) Why do you assume I don't know about Hadith? Seems unverified if you ask me.

You prove it day in and day out . And the more you say , the more you prove it .

2.) I've never ever accused the prophet (pbuh) of lying, I accuse those who speak of him of lying. Even the Quran tells us that among st his companions are hypocrites. Bukhari must have some kind of divine power to know which ones were lying or being hypocrites  ....Bukahari must know better than the prophet himself.....

Again , I won't stand and watch as you accuse the companions of the best of mankind of hypocrisy . Put an angry face if you want , it's nothing compared to my rage at such insolence . And if we follow your twisted line of thinking , we must accuse Quran of corruption ! Who delivered Quran to us ? Aren't they the same people whom you insult and accuse of blaspheme ?! This is one out of many other points which no rejecter of Sunnah can answer . Who should I believe ? You , an arrogant person who talks what he doesn't understand or the one who sent the prophets ?

Certainly was Allah pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance to you, [O Muhammad], under the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, so He sent down tranquillity upon them and rewarded them with an imminent conquest

And the first forerunners [in the faith] among the Muhajireen and the Ansar and those who followed them with good conduct - Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him, and He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever. That is the great attainment.

For the poor emigrants who were expelled from their homes and their properties, seeking bounty from Allah and [His] approval and supporting Allah and His Messenger, [there is also a share]. Those are the truthful.

And let me slap you out of this lala world where you live .You desperately clutch to the straw of accusing the companions . And you think that you understand the 101st verse of Tubah . Let me ask : If the prophet really didn't know the hypocrites at all his whole life , how come Allah orders him not to obey them and fight them ?

And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad], over any of them who has died - ever - or stand at his grave. Indeed, they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient.

And do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites but do not harm them, and rely upon Allah . And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

3.) By stating the science of the Hadith and re-stating my alleged ignorance, your arguments hold no value. Are you saying the science of Hadith collection is perfect? Are you saying that we haven't found internal and external contradictions in Hadiths, even in alleged "authentic hadiths". Those are very naive comments.

I'm saying that the science isn't to be criticized by arrogant people who don't know the first thing about anything . And I challenge you to bring one authorized Hadith that contradicts Quran or logic . The only thing you'll find is what contradicts your personal liking the same as every rejecter . You have until the sun rises from the west .

4.) You say to NEVER EVER compare the Sunni Hadith to the Shia Hadith. Guess what, Shia tell me the same thing! The Quran condemns following any other book or hadith than the Quran. The Quran further states that being obedient to anything else except for Allah is Shirk. You are committing shirk by being obedient to your "sunnah" rather than Allah's prescriptions in the Quran. The Quran is the ONLY sunnah.

The mask finally fell ! Here you are calling me "Kafir" . It seems I was right about you all along . Yes , there is no room for comparing between the science of Hadith based on the teachings of Quran itself - which you clearly ignore - and that of Shiism which doesn't require any kind of evidence . If you're lazy and hate to read and learn even a little - As you clearly didn't see the link - then that's your business ! If you're lazy and easy going , then don't compare your ignorance to knowledgeable people . You don't even understand the Quran which you unjustly claim to follow !

5.) Its true, the sects say that "My scholars are better than yours", and they base their belief system on it. The killing of Sunni muslims by Shia, the killing of apostates by sunni etc etc. You are all disobedient to the Quran.

I don't care if you're so blind as to call someone worshiping someone other than Allah as "Muslim" . That's your problem alone . You can rant and say nonsense as much as you like . You can accuse us of "My scholar is better than yours" and all that load of crap , it doesn't change a thing . It's nothing but pathetic attempts to corrupt the picture of the other and attract emotions of the commoners .

6.) I have stated observations about Hadiths and how they are historically corrupted and full of contradictions. How can you believe a collection with such attributes? I never understood. You might as well believe in the current form of the bible while you are at it.

Screw you . You proved nothing .The only corruption is in your corrupted mind .

7.) Indeed my point still remains, The Quran tells us in 19:101 that the prophet himself did now know which of his companions were hypocrites. Haha, Bukhari just knows and you just follow him. Obeying Allah means obeying Bukhari. Is Bukhari infallible?

The same pathetic way of corrupting others used by the filthy media . I already explained . You can keep spamming nonsense about us worshiping Bukhari as long as you like , it is STILL nonsense . If you're living in a lala world then STAY THERE and spare people your harm and mischief .

^Do you see the word: Nabi (prophet) here? No, obey the messenger. Yes we obey Gabriel as well because he gave Muhammad the message. And we obey Muhammad. Here is the chain of command:

Foolishness . Lack of knowledge in language and logic . Quran tells us to not leave while listening . Are you going as far as to claim Jibreel - peace upon him - talked to people ?! Again , until the sun rises from the west . Yes , there is no room for doubt that the mentioned messenger is the prophet peace upon him .

Don't get me wrong, Muhammad (pbuh) is a messenger and we should obey him. We know FOR SURE that he told us to uphold the Quran.

WHAT evidence do you have that he told us such a thing ? What evidence do you have that Quran was kept safe and never got corrupted ? I'll repeat the points demolishing your belief and wait - yet again - for an answer that will never come .

Now let me give you some points demolishing your faith of denying Sunnah .

1 -You claim that Quran says it is the only source . Then why does Quran itself tells us to ask others ?
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    And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men whom We inspired - Ask the followers of the Remembrance if ye know not! -


2 - The ones who wrote Hadith did follow the teachings of Quran and used its way .
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    A - Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."
    B - O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.
    C - And do not be [too] weary to write it, whether it is small or large, for its [specified] term. That is more just in the sight of Allah and stronger as evidence and more likely to prevent doubt between you,
    D - O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin.

In the first one , Quran gives instructions to ask for evidence in anything and not accept whatever told . In the second one , Quran tells us to be investigate what we are told . In the third one , Quran tells us to be patient in investigating evidence . In the fourth one , Quran tells us to not accuse with no proof .
Now , these rules are done correctly by the scholars of Hadith while you who deny Sunnah do the opposite . You don't follow the third one which tells us to be patient in finding evidence . When one writes Hadith , he travels great distances to make sure of every single piece of information he is told . And you who sit in your house with air conditioning have no right object on this method . And when it comes to the forth one , Allah tells us to avoid negative assumptions while you simply say Hadith is corrupted and that the writers are liars and hypocrites . You even go to call the companions hypocrites !!

3 - History mentions a huge range of claims and accusations against Quran and else . Why don't we EVER hear about deniers of Sunnah in the time of the prophet peace upon him and his companions ? Why didn't anyone at all say that we must ONLY follow Quran and abandon anything else ? You talk about baseless theories accusing Hadith and I'm talking rationally here . If this path you're going down is really true , then how come no one noticed ? There's a difference between different explanations of verses and between an essential matter such as this .


4 - Through this method which you hate so much and make fun of , we know that there is a man called "Muhammad" and that there are people who lived with him called "Companions" and that Allah sent a book to him called "Quran" . So without this method , we loose our history . And based on that , anyone can deny that there was ever a man called Muhammad - peace upon him - and and deny that there were companions . In fact , anyone can deny anything with this method you follow . I for example can deny that there was world war one . How can you ever object on me ? I didn't see it and only heard about it from people who heard about it from others . Then it must be a fable .

This isn't a trivial matter you're talking about . So don't try to make it look like we're having a chat . This is a major problem . And I clearly don't accept when someone calls the sayings of the prophet lies and conspiracies and fables f 7th century . Also , I don't accept someone to compare the science of Hadith with a school game of "Your phone is broken" !

So which Hadith claim should we take up as true and which Hadith should we reject and why?

I'll make it short . The basis of doing this is the science which you hate so much . A science that every fair person said is the most accurate way to know facts of history :
http://abohobelah.blogspot.com/2012/06/blog-post_7750.html

The funny thing is that the links describes you well and your tries to accuse Hadith . Again , if you don't know about Hadith then you have no right at all talk about it .

Of course you always have the option to throw a dart in the direction of the following collections and see where it lands and take that as the one "true" Sunnah and be prepared to be declared a "Kafir" by all the rest Mind you, all of them are claimed to be vetted through the same magical "Science" of Hadith. Needless to say, each and every one of them ignores the all important  public delivery aspect of the official message and hopes nobody will notice that 99.9% of them are single third party narrations.

So because you know nothing , you accuse all these people from different places - India to Spain - of lying and conspiring . You're saying that people from the far east to the far west , although they agreed to the same sayings and exact text , are all lying and conspiring and hypocrites .
What a dangerous thing is denying Sunnah . That's why the prophet said :

يُوشِكُ أَحَدُكُمْ أَنْ يُكَذِّبَنِي وَهُوَ مُتَّكِئٌ عَلَى أَرِيكَتِهِ يُحَدَّثُ بِحَدِيثِي ، فَيَقُولُ : بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمْ كِتَابُ اللَّهِ ، فَمَا وَجَدْنَا فِيهِ مِنْ حَلَالٍ اسْتَحْلَلْنَاهُ ، وَمَا وَجَدْنَا فِيهِ مِنْ حَرَامٍ حَرَّمْنَاهُ ، أَلَا وَإِنَّ مَا حَرَّمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ مِثْلُ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ

And here's an idea , NEVER , EVER , compare between the science of Hadith of the people of Sunnah and group and that of Shia and others . Enough said is that they don't require the one saying something to be truthful or even known !
http://abohobelah.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-post_11.html

Now comes the fun part, with the possible exception of the Ibadi collection, each and every other collection has an interesting thread running through it. All the collectors were Persians and all of them appeared out of nowhere right after the defeat of the Persians. You just need two functioning brain cells to figure out the rest.

An outrageous lie ! Bukhari was born in Bukhara and Ahmad bin Hanbal was born in Baghdad of Iraq and Nas'i was born in Nasa - Not NASA of space - and some others were born in Persia . What does that have to do with anything ? If you have no evidence then please shut it and spare us the baseless conspiracy theories .

No matter where the dart lands, in essence it will be no more than a game of "my scholars are better than yours". I for one refuse to assign my eternity to this crapshoot.

Again , either learn a few fragments about Hadith or shut it . Whenever I read something you write I find a load of accusations which are in no way true except in your own head . There is no difference between what you do and what Non-Muslims do of taking their information about it from Islamophobic sites instead of its own sources .

Being intellectually honest with myself, I cannot bring myself into believing Hadiths. Just like how I cannot bring myself into believing in Hinduism, Polytheism or Christianity. Why do you think I left Christianity? They all share things in common:
1.) Based on corrupted sources
2.) Shown to be historically corrupted
3.) Contain contradictions within themselves
4.) Contain contradictions with reality
5.) Been shown to be false many times
6.) Immense scientific errors

And that is why I have MAJOR problems with you and every denier of Sunnah . No knowledge OR manners . Just now you were ranting about how we call each other "Kuffar" and now you call us so ? You compare Hadith to the ones who worship cows ?! I'm still holding my nerves , but it seems you just want to cause mischief among people .
And saying "Being honest with myself equals nothing . I also say that being honest with myself makes me reject those who deny Sunnah and deem them as ones corrupting Islam . And I challenge you and your whole gang of corrupters to prove a single point of what you claim .

God in the Quran clearly informs the Prophet Pbuh that there are hypocrites among the Sahaba Quran 9:101 and that not even the Prophet of God (Pbuh) didn't know who they were, so the question is how did Bukhari know?  Is Bukhari somehow more knowledgeable than the prophet himself (pbuh).

You have until the sun rises from the west or until you die to prove this . And you bluntly say "Clearly" and as we so , your explanations are all acrobatic . O one who knows not , Allah says about the companions

Certainly was Allah pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance to you, [O Muhammad], under the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, so He sent down tranquillity upon them and rewarded them with an imminent conquest

So I'll never accept someone to call the companions hypocrites ! Someone who says  we call others Kuffar and then does the same thing with those whom he doesn't equal their shoes !

hat I would really like to know is when did "obey the messenger" (not necessarily"Nabi") mean "obey Bukhari". How do we obey the prophet Muhammad?

Get out of your daydreams . Bukhari was a scholar among many others whom Allah used to keep his religion safe . He's a human who does errs . Ignorants who claim we worship him or call him a holy figure need to learn . A simple fact that breaks your claim is that the books of Bukhari were also looked through and scanned for any tiny amount of mistakes and errors . And indeed , there were times when he did mistakes . The science in total is what judges them .

Many muslims who uphold hadith bring up the "obey the messenger" argument. I would just add some more information for you, which MOST Muslims don't know:
-  The Rasool (Messengers) are of THREE types in the Quran.
1-  Human messengers i.e. Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad etc. etc.etc.
2-  The Angels as messengers:  15:57, 11:69, 29:31, 6:61.
3-  The Quran itself is the messenger :  65:10 and 11.
Further there is NO verse in the Quran that says "Obey the Nabi". Its always "Obey Rasool".
Who are Rasool? The prophets, the angels, the Quran make up the Rasool. Which revelation includes the message of all the Rasool and the final law? The Quran.

There's someone in the forum of monotheism who told us once that the deniers of Sunnah - unjustly called Quranists - are the first to know not about Quran which they claim to follow . And my was he right ! Quran says :

O you who have believed, obey Allah and His Messenger and do not turn from him while you hear [his order].

So you're saying that people saw the angel Jibreel - peace upon him - and heard from him ?! And by the way , as I said , you're the first to know not about Quran . Here are the verses in the chapter of divorce :

Allah has prepared for them a severe punishment; so fear Allah , O you of understanding who have believed. Allah has sent down to you the Qur'an. 10 [He sent] a Messenger [Muhammad] reciting to you the distinct verses of Allah that He may bring out those who believe and do righteous deeds from darknesses into the light. And whoever believes in Allah and does righteousness - He will admit him into gardens beneath which rivers flow to abide therein forever. Allah will have perfected for him a provision. 11

So you're telling me that Quran used to read Quran for people ??!!
And what do we say about the verses at the start of the chapter of rooms (Hujurat) ?

O you who have believed, do not put [yourselves] before Allah and His Messenger but fear Allah . Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing. 1 O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not. 2 Indeed, those who lower their voices before the Messenger of Allah - they are the ones whose hearts Allah has tested for righteousness. For them is forgiveness and great reward. 3

And brothers, I am absolutely absolutely infuriated with Muslims upholding hadiths thinking that by doing pilgramage, that their sins will be wiped out. These people come out thinking they are now sinless and they won't repent anymore to Allah because they believe they are now sinless!

Enough with the nonsense ! You clearly know nothing at all ! The prophet peace upon him says :

Whoever performs Hajj and stay aways away from lewdness, wrangling , and obscenities will come home like a newborn

NOWHERE does it say that one can commit sins and they'll be forgiven !!

Now let me give you some points demolishing your faith of denying Sunnah .

1 -You claim that Quran says it is the only source . Then why does Quran itself tells us to ask others ?

And We sent not (as Our messengers) before thee other than men whom We inspired - Ask the followers of the Remembrance if ye know not! -

2 - The ones who wrote Hadith did follow the teachings of Quran and used its way .

A - Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."
B - O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.
C - And do not be [too] weary to write it, whether it is small or large, for its [specified] term. That is more just in the sight of Allah and stronger as evidence and more likely to prevent doubt between you,
D - O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin.

In the first one , Quran gives instructions to ask for evidence in anything and not accept whatever told . In the second one , Quran tells us to be investigate what we are told . In the third one , Quran tells us to be patient in investigating evidence . In the fourth one , Quran tells us to not accuse with no proof .
Now , these rules are done correctly by the scholars of Hadith while you who deny Sunnah do the opposite . You don't follow the third one which tells us to be patient in finding evidence . When one writes Hadith , he travels great distances to make sure of every single piece of information he is told . And you who sit in your house with air conditioning have no right object on this method . And when it comes to the forth one , Allah tells us to avoid negative assumptions while you simply say Hadith is corrupted and that the writers are liars and hypocrites . You even go to call the companions hypocrites !!

3 - History mentions a huge range of claims and accusations against Quran and else . Why don't we EVER hear about deniers of Sunnah in the time of the prophet peace upon him and his companions ? Why didn't anyone at all say that we must ONLY follow Quran and abandon anything else ? You talk about baseless theories accusing Hadith and I'm talking rationally here . If this path you're going down is really true , then how come no one noticed ? There's a difference between different explanations of verses and between an essential matter such as this .


4 - Through this method which you hate so much and make fun of , we know that there is a man called "Muhammad" and that there are people who lived with him called "Companions" and that Allah sent a book to him called "Quran" . So without this method , we loose our history . And based on that , anyone can deny that there was ever a man called Muhammad - peace upon him - and and deny that there were companions . In fact , anyone can deny anything with this method you follow . I for example can deny that there was world war one . How can you ever object on me ? I didn't see it and only heard about it from people who heard about it from others . Then it must be a fable .

Now you know ? Again , what's the point ?

It proves nothing . Only an ignorant thinks all people mature at the same time . Whoever says so defies science and common sense . This girl mentioned was not mature . In Islam , the husband and wife MUST be mature for marriage . Case closed .

Again , what does this have to do with Islam ?