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Offline mclinkin94

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Is homosexuality Genetic?
« on: February 10, 2014, 11:24:01 PM »
I am so tired of hearing this nonsense that homosexuality is genetic therefore the Quran is wrong in disallowing it...

The evidence is suggestive that homosexuality is partly genetic and environmental (you have identical twin studies with one twin being gay and the other completely straight).

But, this question is irrelevant. The desire to murder people also has a genetic root, yet Allah condemns it The desire to eat/drink is obviously genetic, yet Allah prohibits it in the Quran. The desire to rape is genetic and I could go on forever! Evolutionary, humans are not created to worship Allah, we are created to be selfish people who strive for survival and reproduction, yet Allah wants us to worship him and pray daily!

How is this? How is this that Allah gives us genetic predispositions and then orders us to do the opposite?

The answer, life is a test. This is stated throughout the Quran. You can control your genetic predispositions and when you withhold them for the sake of Allah that is the highest level of worship! That is showing your devotion and love to Allah!

Imagine the reward of a homosexual who actually does not commit the action of homosexual relationship or intercourse? Imagine how much devotion they would have.

People get tested in many different ways and your test would always be composed of something.

So if anyone ever tells you that homosexuality is genetic or not, you just say either way, you don't do the action. IT doesn't matter what your genetic predispositions are, humans are adaptive and Allah has created us with an intellect and free-will so that we may rise past those genetic predispositions and chose to be devout. That is the test we all undergo.

A closer look at homosexuality and the Quran on this link: http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/part_4/quran_and_homosexuality_(P1450).html
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Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2014, 07:19:22 PM »
Identical twin studies prove homosexuality is not genetic

Eight major studies of identical twins in Australia, the U.S., and Scandinavia during the last two decades all arrive at the same conclusion: gays were not born that way.

“At best genetics is a minor factor,” says Dr. Neil Whitehead, PhD. Whitehead worked for the New Zealand government as a scientific researcher for 24 years, then spent four years working for the United Nations and International Atomic Energy Agency. Most recently, he serves as a consultant to Japanese universities about the effects of radiation exposure. His PhD is in biochemistry and statistics.

 

Identical twins have the same genes or DNA. They are nurtured in equal prenatal conditions.  If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay.

“Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women.”

Because identical twins are always genetically identical, homosexuality cannot be genetically dictated. “No-one is born gay,” he notes. “The predominant things that create homosexuality in one identical twin and not in the other have to be post-birth factors.”

Dr. Whitehead believes same-sex attraction (SSA) is caused by “non-shared factors,”  things happening to one twin but not the other, or a personal response to an event by one of the twins and not the other.

For example, one twin might have exposure to pornography or sexual abuse, but not the other.  One twin may interpret and respond to their family or classroom environment differently than the other. “These individual and idiosyncratic responses to random events and to common environmental factors predominate,” he says.

The first very large, reliable study of identical twins was conducted in Australia in 1991, followed by a large U.S. study about 1997. Then Australia and the U.S. conducted more twin studies in 2000, followed by several studies in Scandinavia, according to Dr. Whitehead.

“Twin registers are the foundation of modern twin studies. They are now very large, and exist in many countries. A gigantic European twin register with a projected 600,000 members is being organized, but one of the largest in use is in Australia, with more than 25,000 twins on the books.”

A significant twin study among adolescents shows an even weaker genetic correlation. In 2002 Bearman and Brueckner studied tens of thousands of adolescent students in the U.S.  The same-sex attraction concordance between identical twins was only 7.7% for males and 5.3% for females—lower than the 11% and 14% in the Australian study by Bailey et al conducted in 2000.

In the identical twin studies, Dr. Whitehead has been struck by how fluid and changeable sexual identity can be.

“Neutral academic surveys show there is substantial change. About half of the homosexual/bisexual population (in a non-therapeutic environment) moves towards heterosexuality over a lifetime. About 3% of the present heterosexual population once firmly believed themselves to be homosexual or bisexual.”

“Sexual orientation is not set in concrete,” he notes.

Even more remarkable, most of the changes occur without counseling or therapy. “These changes are not therapeutically induced, but happen ‘naturally’ in life, some very quickly,” Dr. Whitehead observes. “Most changes in sexual orientation are towards exclusive heterosexuality.”

Numbers of people who have changed towards exclusive heterosexuality are greater than current numbers of bisexuals and homosexuals combined. In other words, ex-gays outnumber actual gays.

The fluidity is even more pronounced among adolescents, as Bearman and Brueckner’s study demonstrated. “They found that from 16 to 17-years-old, if a person had a romantic attraction to the same sex, almost all had switched one year later.”

“The authors were pro-gay and they commented that the only stability was among the heterosexuals, who stayed the same year after year. Adolescents are a special case—generally changing their attractions from year to year.”

Still, many misconceptions persist in the popular culture. Namely, that homosexuality is genetic – so hard-wired into one’s identity that it can’t be changed. “The academics who work in the field are not happy with the portrayals by the media on the subject,” Dr. Whitehead notes. “But they prefer to stick with their academic research and not get involved in the activist side.”

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Offline ThatMuslimGuy

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Re: Is homosexuality Genetic?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 07:26:55 AM »
AsalamuAlaikum,

Various research so far is inconclusive. It could be biological or it could be nature. Or both.

One thing is for sure. It isnt Solely Genetic. The evidence is pretty obvious. That if it was based on genetics. Both twins would be straight. Both would be gay.

But countless studies show this isnt the case. Its on wikipedia if your interested.

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Re: Is homosexuality Genetic?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 03:00:22 PM »
no it is not cause if it was genetic then why half of new yourk is gay?

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Re: Is homosexuality Genetic?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 04:05:41 PM »
It is totally crap , homosexuality ain't genetic , the people who are desperate to try new sexual things become gay or the people who aren't confident to be with someone of opposite sex , become homosexual in order to fulfill their sexual desires

 

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