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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Illuminati BS
« on: April 23, 2013, 04:39:47 PM »
Ok Bro osama fair enough. But i think you should put it on a sister website like mendacium said

I already have, my dear brother.  Please visit: www.girlswentwild.com :).
Lmao. Girlswentwild....genius. xD

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Salamunalykum,

I hope the title is not true - and it makes no sense for it to be true- but when i debate with atheists and theists, and show to them the scientific miracles, they say that the Quranic arabic word has many, many, many meanings - each word having around thirty(? is that even true?) , and that the translations are all mostly speculative and are 'word play'. Hamza Tzortis himself says in his debate with Lawrence Krauss that he does not believe in doing Dawah by using scientific miracles of the Quran because the arabic words individually have so many, many translations and in the early periods they were all translated wrongly.

Surely this isn't true? Surely there needs to be a more or less reliable form of translation?

I would love to obtain an answer, i know Brother Osama has the Lisan Al Arab, and so he would be in a very good position to answer this:)

Furthermore brother, why do early translations of the Quran not describe the universe as expanding? Is it that the translators mistranslated it? Are there latin or greek or some early translators who did not mistranslate it?

Ahsant
Apparently some people purposefully twist ayahs to make it look like a miracle when actually its purely figurative. The ayah on mountains being pegs is apparently a supposed miracle but actually meant to be figurative. I dunno, i dont really have that much knowledge on this issue.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Illuminati BS
« on: April 22, 2013, 03:28:39 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

No paranoia here.  And exposing the rotten zionists is actually part of the 'Answering Christianity' mission.  The neo-cons have hijacked the Bible and fabricated all kinds of lies.  Exposing lies that were either injected into the Bible, and/or associated with or attributed to the Bible had always been part of this website's mission and task, among many other tasks.

1-  9/11 is a lie.  It's our duty to expose it.

2-  The Boston bombing also has several questionable things about it.

Anyway, I'll write about the Boston bombing when all of the facts are laid out.  But many many Americans are ALREADY voicing their doubts about the validity of the story on the blogs.

We as Muslims have the Moral Obligation to tell the Truth!  I will not compromise the Truth or fabricate lies regarding the Boston bombings.  But like I said, it's already looking fishy and very questionable.

If these become proven lies, then it becomes part of our Muslim responsibility to expose these neo-con zionists and have them thoroughly destroyed with Truth!

Hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Ok Bro osama fair enough. But i think you should put it on a sister website like mendacium said

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Illuminati BS
« on: April 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM »
Yes, i personally believe that while this website is absolutely fantastic in the miracles of the Quran and the inter-faith debates, the conspiracy theories just need to go. It detracts from our credibility.
Mmmhmm. I think its pointless trying to pin the blame on zionists or blah blah blah. We have already established numerous times that what those hijackers did is extremely haram

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Tanveer,

Actually, I just re-researched this, and the Hadiths don't seem to make this explicit.  But here is a Hadith about the meteorites:

"'Abdullah. Ibn 'Abbas reported: A person from the Ansar who was amongst the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) reported to me: As we were sitting during the night with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), a meteor shot gave a dazzling light. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: What did you say in the pre-Islamic days when there was such a shot (of meteor)? They said: Allah and His Messenger know best (the actual position), but we, however, used to say that that very night a great man had been born and a great man had died, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: (These meteors) are shot neither at the death of anyone nor on the birth of anyone. Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, issues Command when He decides to do a thing. Then (the Angels) supporting the Throne sing His glory, then sing the dwellers of heaven who are near to them until this glory of God reaches them who are in the heaven of this world. Then those who are near the supporters of the Throne ask these supporters of the Throne: What your Lord has said? And they accordingly inform them what He says. Then the dwellers of heaven seek information from them until this information reaches the heaven of the world. In this process of transmission (the jinn snatches) what he manages to overhear and he carries it to his friends. And when the Angels see the jinn they attack them with meteors (Shahab). If they narrate only which they manage to snatch that is correct but they alloy it with lies and make additions to it.  (Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5538)"

Again, please visit http://www.answering-christianity.com/shooting_stars_miracle.htm to see how the Glorious Quran defined Shahab, and how the Glorious Quran talked about the Stars shooting rays against the Jinns.  Read Main Sections #1, 2, 3, 4 from the article.

Anyway, not all Hadiths are authentic.  Those that contradict the Glorious Quran and/or Science should be discarded as fabrications, or misundertanding by people.  People when narrating from each others, they paraphrase.  And as we all know, people naturally tend to add their own interpretations and versions and twists to the narration or story.  This is not necessarily always due to bad and malicious intentions.

Hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
I agree.

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Jihad & Terrorism / Re: Two questions.
« on: April 13, 2013, 09:29:55 AM »
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 624
Narrated Anas:

Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Apostle! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 629
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever has oppressed another person concerning his reputation or anything else, he should beg him to forgive him before the Day of Resurrection when there will be no money (to compensate for wrong deeds), but if he has good deeds, those good deeds will be taken from him according to his oppression which he has done, and if he has no good deeds, the sins of the oppressed person will be loaded on him."


Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 623
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one."
Cool, Thanks Bro Shabeer

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Sir , Mashallah from ur website I got a lot of help & Inshallah soon I will also. Be doing daawah sir till now the only answer which I was unable to get was about the meteorite shower on jinns sir can you plz help me with dat as soon as possible

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Welcome to the board.  May Allah Almighty continue to bless you by keeping you in Islam, and by further strengthening your faith in our Cherished and Precious and Beloved Religion and Faith, Islam.  Ameen.

As to your question dear brother, this topic is actually one of the Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  The Jinns are not struck by any rock or meteorite.  The Glorious Quran is CRYSTAL CLEAR about them being struck by special Stars in the Universe.  I know that there are Hadiths that say that Jinns are struck by meteorites.  But the Glorious Quran completley contradicts this.

[067:005]  And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.

‏67:5 ولقد زينا السماء الدنيا بمصابيح وجعلناها رجوما للشياطين واعتدنا لهم عذاب السعير

Meteorites are not stars, nor are they lamps for the Lower Heaven, which could be our Galaxy or a section inside our Galaxy.  They come and go in a short amount of time, and their light is short.  So they couldn't possibly be the lamps (stars) that are talked about in Noble Verse 67:5.

There are many more Noble Verses that I provided.  Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/shooting_stars_miracle.htm.  Read Main Sections #1, 2, 3 and 4.  I've proven this in great details.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Where are these hadiths found?

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Although im glad for that i think that it would be better to put up a debate channel where sunnis and shias debate or a channel that debunks islamophobes and extremists.
peace
I agree. I think this would be more beneficial.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Buraq
« on: April 06, 2013, 12:15:22 PM »
Are there any articles on here addressing the alleged plagiarising of buraq from greek mythology?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Russell's Teapot.
« on: April 05, 2013, 06:25:37 AM »
Peace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

What do you guys think of this? Do you think the burden of proof is on us to prove God exists or is it on the atheists? Personally, i dont feel obligated to prove God exists, i just personally believe it. If i did have to prove it, i still wouldnt, as the burden of proof is on the accuser- not the accused.
Sorry
I but i believe you need proof to prove something exists, or at least something that hints it.
Interesting. Thanks Bro Zulfiqar.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Russell's Teapot.
« on: April 03, 2013, 06:25:32 PM »
peace
online, i found many articles that prove the existance of God
if you do an online search you will certainly prove it.
Peace
Bro Zulfiqar, i think you misunderstood my post. :P My question isnt "How can i prove God exists?" but "Do you believe in the Russell's Teapot Analogy?".

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Russell's Teapot.
« on: April 03, 2013, 05:10:05 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

What do you guys think of this? Do you think the burden of proof is on us to prove God exists or is it on the atheists? Personally, i dont feel obligated to prove God exists, i just personally believe it. If i did have to prove it, i still wouldnt, as the burden of proof is on the accuser- not the accused.

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Peace
Your most welcome
I believe ive read that somewhere here
www.answering-christian-claims.com
i dont remember exactly where in the website though
peace
Thanks Bro Zulfiqar. I did a quick google search but unfortunately i couldnt find it :(

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I read that he didn't allow it unless you gave the isnad, this shows how early the "isnad" concept developed.
Interesting.....thanks Bro Zulfiqar

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Title says it all.

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