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i know that some English school in Kuwait are teaching a false scriptures and something like Al-Furqan and these religion mixtures in one book in their classes and teaching total atheism or secularism. so it make sense except the trinity Egyptian/Jordanian = Palestinian in Kuwait :D

 lots of people are crooked and very corrupted there in Kuwait(i've been there in 2002-2005 for work in salmya near Al-Thuraya complex) even who went out of it and was in these schools stayed agnostic or went to atheism or Satanism, it's so good that a guy like you who've been in these schools are searching to find out if Islam and Quran are the real deal when most of who had this experience of yours doesn't even wanna explore, and where most of who believes are just a follower and doesn't understand the message and it's wisdom even if they are blindly believe and very sure of it.

so are you just making sure of it, then you will put it in the drawer of the mind for some black day?. or looking to understand it and know yourself? because it maybe can't fit everyone, but everyone can be a muslim and understand lots of things he really seeks for by Experience which leads to wisdom.

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@Ramihs97 i don't understand! you are an Egyptian , Jordanian = Palestinian living in Kuwait ? 2+1 = 3 in 1 Arabic and who doesn't know Arabic very well? it's like how the trinitarian trying to explain trinity. are you an esoteric ?

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early puberty is still something normal.
cwhn.ca/en/node/39365

so how about desert life ??? and a women wanted that man badly and was engaged before him to another man been caught drinking.

a caught cases of youngest mothers not from long time ago.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Girls in India could customarily be married after reaching puberty.( they also allowed to abortion female embryos )
Jump up ^ Thai law allows for the marriage of minors arranged by their parents.

140 years ago(not 1400) state of Delaware marriage age law was 7 to unlimited man age until sixties. that mean there are still some alive of your grandfathers who married a 7 years old girl where roman curstian american girls are known that they are retards, cold , and lives in average/cold weather that made them grow slower and reach puberty and maturity later than the desert girl 1400 years ago..
you can marry 14 years old today in California and 13 in new hemisphere. and amazon and Alaska tribes marry any age they wants. some Californian fathers do their daughters as a part of culture , Sweden marry their half sisters as a part of their laws like Abraham PBUH did in the bible , insect marriage was a normal thing in Europe laws not long time ago also and now bestiality is ok.

America Has an Incest Problem
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/01/america-has-an-incest-problem/272459/
 A Nation of Bastards
 By Glenn Fairman
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/02/a_nation_of_bastards.html

niece marriage is ok in Judaism
http://www.aish.com/atr/Cousin-Marriages.html

16 out of 18 family of Rothschild are first cousin marriage in the last 2 centuries and they are the lords of Christian lords which is the New York statue XD.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/rothschild.htm

sibling marriage still a normal thing.
http://legal.answers.wikia.com/wiki/Is_incest_legal_in_any_country

Isaac PBUH married a 3 years old girl in the bible.
discover-the-truth.com/2013/09/14/bible-child-marriage-in-ancient-israelite-times-paedophilia/

answering-christianity.com/minimum_age_for_marriage.htm

answering-christianity.com/aisha.htm

new Rome and new Romans are not the only human standards if not the worse ;) 

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according to verse (5-5) wedlock must happen and we are not even allowed to take a mistresses according to that verse . so she is a prophet wife and one of our mothers if she was really one of his women.
 and sure you know that no one are allowed to marry his mother because his wives are our mothers as Allah almighty mentioned in Verse (33:6),  so what about concubines/right hand possess are they wives? if mother Maria was just a concubine not wedlocked by maybe a different Nikah contract then Verse (33:6) can let us marry mother Maria because Muhammad PBUH is not a father of any of us according to (33:40). and we didn't heard that there is someone have been married mother Maria after the prophet's time.  And Allah knows best.


النكاح في اللغة: يكون بمعنى عقد التزويج و يكون بمعنى وطء الزوجة قال أبو علي القالي: (فرقت العرب فرقا لطيفا يعرف به موضع العقد من الوطء، فإذا قالوا: نكح فلانة أو بنت فلان أرادوا عقد التزويج، وإذا قالوا: نكح امرأته أو زوجته لم يريدوا إلا الجماع و الوطء)).

ومعنى النكاح في الشرع: (( تعاقد بين رجل و امرأة يقصد به استمتاع كل منهما بالآخر و تكوين أسرة صالحة و مجتمع سليم)).

ومن هنا نأخذ انه لا يقصد بعقد النكاح مجرد الاستمتاع بل يقصد به مع ذلك معنى آخر هو ( تكوين الأسرة الصالحة و المجتمعات السليمة لكن قد يغلب احد القصدين على الآخر لاعتبارات معينة بحسب أحوال الشخص.
احزاب 49 "يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِذَا نَكَحْتُمُ الْمُؤْمِنَاتِ ثُمَّ طَلَّقْتُمُوهُنَّ مِنْ قَبْلِ أَنْ تَمَسُّوهُنَّ فَمَا لَكُمْ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِنْ عِدَّةٍ تَعْتَدُّونَهَا ۖ فَمَتِّعُوهُنَّ وَسَرِّحُوهُنَّ سَرَاحًا جَمِيلًا "
اذا بعض الكلمات بالقران الكريم بلاغية لطيفة و تغطي عدة معاني.


NIKAH in the language: a sense of holding marriages contract and have the sense of intercourse, Abu Ali Frier said: (Arabs pleasantly dispersed of subject between marriage of intercourse, if they said Nakah someone a girl so and so wanted to hold marriages contracts, and if they say: Nakah someone his wife did only want to mean intercourse)).
The meaning of NIKAH in Islam: ((a contract between a man and a woman intended to enjoy each other and family formation are valid and healthy society)).
Hence, we take it is not intended of word NIKAH to just to enjoy , however, another meaning is (valid family formation and healthy communities but one meaning may tend  on certain other considerations, according to the conditions of the person.
(33:49) Y.Ali
"O ye who believe! When ye marry(NAKAH-TOM) believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of 'Iddat have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present. And set them free in a handsome manner."
here NIKAH also came as marriage contract.

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about MASTOOH yes people using it after eating too much, maybe it's a new expression maybe old, but is that suppose to mean that they are giving the right expression ? I say MazToom fit that situation more don't you think? MASTOOH can be mean (this thing have been surfaced) I.E (Sutiha fa howa Mastoohon) ('Okila fa howa Ma'koolon)( 'Osira fa howa Ma'sooron ). and Allah knows best.

note: they also use the word (Satih) when they hear someone burping in high sound after drinking cola. it's like telling em go explode or something and i dunno what exactly does it mean :D . they use it for melon(estah al bateekha) (Estahilna hal bateekha ya m3allem)

غير أن الذي يخرج المرء من عقاله و يحط الأعل بالكف على طريقة معازيبنا السوريين و يسطح بتسكين السين أي يفلق كما سطح البطيخة بالسكين ،هو أن عملية تسطيح الموضوعات - و التسطيح هنا بمعنى التبسيط لدرجة تفريغ هذه الموضوعات من مضامينها - هو سجالٌ بين القنوات الفضائية –ولا أستثني أحداً، وبين ضيوفهم المتفذلكين رغم أن جهلهم المدفوع الثمن ماثلٌ للمشاهدين كما ندوب عمليات شد وجوه الحيزبونات!

they also uses the word (sathi for the shallow person)

@Abdullah Almadi
that's why I always say lets cut the shaping of the earth from the Quran if you don't have the tools to see how it is looks like. because Allah words can be interpreted wrong or right based on the human endeavor. I hate really to enroll Quran in unseen cases .

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I believe that(sutihat سطحت = been surfaced) and it's without a shadda( it's a punctuation mark to multiply the letter). if it with shadda it will be(Sutttihhat) that means being surfaced more than one surface .. (saqf سقف = roof)  (sath سطح = surface) (sath al bayt = home surface when walk on it and saqf roof when we are under it)( sath al qamar = moon surface ) ( suqifa al baitu = the home been roofed ) . Allah glory to him telling us to see  the way the earth been surfaced . is to look how beautiful is the earth surface and how nice is the design of that surface and how it so different than the underground and how much it's easier and interesting life for who lives on the surface. it could be that interpretation it could be yours , it could be both. and the only god knows best.

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a kuwaiti muslim and asking an English site on internet ? ya ragel ? you should send a refutations and new ideas and interpretations to these people not just asking the same old critical questions that been refuted in Arabic sites long time ago..... so it depends! do you really pleases to go straight ? the most people that are weak on faith is those who doesn't have the 2nd half and who doesn't have a good wife and who doesn't want to follow quran and practical and who wants to join some satanist or atheist or other groups for benefits.. you guys are just a new introvert98 , just flooding the site and never used search.

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(2:101)"And when there cometh unto them a messenger from Allah, confirming that which they possess, a party of those who have received the Scripture fling the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they knew not,"

(3:187)"And (remember) when Allah laid a charge on those who had received the Scripture (He said): Ye are to expound it to mankind and not to hide it. But they flung it behind their backs and bought thereby a little gain. Verily evil is that which they have gained thereby."

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we better follow the practical sunnah that reached us and make sure of ahadeeth before following and believing it.

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even stoning is probably a lie . it is whipping after 4 witnesses in the Quran for adulterer without specifying their marital status in Surat Al Noor.

they said that it is a lost revelation from Qur'an . but look at the Aya that they said it's lost , al-shaikh(old man) and al-shaikha(old women) stone them (erjemohoma) (Albatta) what is  al batta ? this word can't be from the quran . and we know that shaikh and shaikha for old man and there is no shaikha. so it seem stoning was some of Sunnah culture copied it from Jews or it law got copied by surat al noor.
and shia have a little different aya of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8R0pa2URPY

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(Yawman) 1 of these days for Allah (NOT the day (Al-Yawm)) is like an 1000 year of what you count , The nearest decimal place as a sign not a specific number or period , so it's maybe a metaphor to show how some processes take a great period of time to be done step by step  . then which count solar or lunar or Sumerian or Jewish lunar ? so it's (1 of these days for Allah like a (number) NOT the day = (number)) . (yawman not Al-Yawm). you ever heard about the Sumerian year count ?

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1- Bart Ehrman said : "the essential Christian beliefs are not affected by textual variants in the manuscript tradition of the New Testament". they have just a 50000 non identical Greek/Latin NT manuscripts. that not just with textual variants , also with whole different stories , cut , paste , edit , add , remove ...etc. and they doesn't dare to show these differences , but they only running here and there trying to debunk the holy Qur'an by it variant readings in several words which for some sects it strengthen the interpretation and the possibility of more story significance when 2 meaning is possible and true in the same time, which is doesn't touch the laws or the reminder content and significance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBUhCG3Fbck

and we can't forget that the holy Qur'an came to us verbally and what we have now is authenticating the manuscript totally opposite to them. so some people accept those several words readings and enjoying it , others doesn't and says that what we have is the complete and no need for the other variants readings and it is authenticating the manuscripts.

2- the sixteen century king James bible that completed in 1611 by 8 members of the church of England , there were (and still are) no original text to translate. the oldest manuscript they have written down hundreds of years after the last apostle died , there are over 8000 of these manuscripts with no 2 alike, the king James translators used non of these anyway , instead , they editing previous translators to create a version their king and Parliament approve.
so, 21st century Christians believe the word of god is a book edited in the 17th century from 16 century translators of 8000 contradictory copies of lost letters written in the 1st century.


3- a different books of bible for different sects with different translations believes while we have preferable readings for each sect and one Qu'ran for all sects and different interpretations for different sects.
Shocking Mike Licona: New Testament Could Change in the Future .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhIvM9Bz5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W43tTK8c9us

so expect that Romans can reconstruct the whole NT and make it standalone out of OT. and surely many people will buy this [censored] for the eyes of Ze$Us the SUN of God.

4- i think that there is non of Muslims have went there and studied the variant and differences in the non identical Greek gospels and manuscripts like they do . so they possibly have burned or hide them as they always do or they will never allow a Muslim to that , but we allow them and they allow themselves because we are sure of what we have unlike them because they are just a liars and knows that the christianity been debunked and just defending this Romans Ze$Us agriculture and afraid at their New York Statue.

5- OT have 2 different books , the Samaritan Torah and the Jewish TANAKH with hundreds of differences, and the dead sea manuscripts and the other hidden non identical manuscripts , NT have the oldest Bible the Codex Sinaiticus that have thousands of differences not just variants. and they still show non of these to any while we are showing them everything.

6- NT is so borrrrrring compared to the OT even with some copy paste from the OT To NT that to just trying to proof and confirm an idolatry of a man and if you didn't believe that this man is Sun of god you are already in hell and no need for religion. this is what Allah calls taking their lord as their desires.
see verse(4-123)

7- Bart said "As I am taking a break from my Christological posts for a couple of days, I’ve received several inquiries about other things, including the newsworthy manuscript discoveries announced this past year: what has happened to them? Specifically, what about that Gospel of Jesus’ Wife that was named, announced, and published by Karen King back in September, and what about the first-century manuscript of the Gospel of Mark that Dan Wallace announced but would tell us nothing about in the debate that he had with me in Chapel Hill back in February, over a year ago now.(because Dan is a liar and trying to make some magic/miracles/waiting for new technology to make this manuscript looks like what they have now) As far as I know, in both instances the answer is the same. We have heard nothing new about either one. That’s very disappointing! Both of them would be highly significant if they were actually, authentically, what their discoverers/publishers say they are!"

so we are an open book , they are an esoteric liars hiding the books behind their backs and writing it and saying this is from Allah, those who wanna end your religion to end all religion and take a full control of all people minds and then making them like Wall-E people. god wants us to be different but compete in good and righteousness not in bad and evilness.

 (5-69)"Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve."

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Earth's shape and dahaha
« on: August 23, 2016, 06:17:09 PM »
i think that giving the holy Quran an Arbitrary Interpretation isn't wise brothers , we Muslims and Arabs doesn't have our space ships or any technology to see that.

so i mentioned that Allah didn't mention in the holy Qur'an the specific clear word such as "the earth is rounded" or "the earth is moving around" or "the earth is fixed on pillars" or "the earth is a flat disk" or "the earth surface is a flat shape or egg shape" or the "earth surface is spherical shape".....

but he mentioned clearly that we are walking in the earth not on earth . that means the earth have a skies or sky .
he mentioned that he is the lord of sun risings and sunsets and the 2 sun risings and the 2 sunsets , and the sun rising and the sun set .
he said that he is rounding the night over day and rounding the day over night as a sign without explaining how.

he said that he is daha(دحاها) maybe it can contain 3-5 meanings, the earth and Tahha(طحاها) the earth, i believe Tahha have something to do with something like Centrifugal force maybe yes maybe not , made the earth Kifata(كفاتا احيائا و امواتا) i can't say that the kifata is just the bird maneuver moving because it have many other meanings and tafseer, it is possible that it points for 2 scales of balance or bird moving or a container for living and dead or else or this word can contain all these meanings.

he said that he is (ننقصها من اطرافها) (reducing it of its outlying parts) or borders. does the complete spherical shape has borders ? how many borders the American football have ? how many border the chicken egg have ? 1 or 2 ?
can i make another border in the American football ? yes if i hammer it from the middle with a strong punch. does the borders means just the poles or more than that ?

he said that the mountains moving like the cloud , does it mean that who sees it from above the earth or have another meaning? is that an enough proof that Qur'an telling that the earth is moving ? maybe yes but we need to see how and to take a footage for that to show people how the mountains moving like the clouds from above the earth. or it is just a way of mountain moving that we can't notice and only geologies can? or can it hold the 2 interpretation?.

what if these west made another video and showed that the earth is like the Swiss roll shape or like a pear shape ? you will tell him that Dahaha means pear ? what if the west told you that the earth is not really moving?. i don't think we must rely on YouTube videos other than trying to see the things by our own eyes then see what is possibilities to interpret these Quran words .

Dr. Mustafa Mahmoud: He Who Knows Himself Knows His Lord .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bym2_ZEcpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pGyjQshlKw

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Earth's shape and dahaha
« on: August 23, 2016, 12:10:14 PM »
The holy Quran never stated any architecture shape for the earth in a clear way or if it have a flat surface or a sloppy surface or a spherical surface, it stated that Allah has spread it out and make it easy for wandering and planting and life matters , and Allah never stated the movement of earth in a clear way but Allah said (27-88)"and thou shalt see the mountains, that thou supposest fixed, passing by like clouds -- God's handiwork, who has created everything very well. He is aware of the things you do".. everything above you is a sky , every thing below your feet is an earth. maybe dahaha means that Allah made it ready for life . And Allah knows best . if Allah sent the Quran tafseer with it ,then people would have mastered it and then threw it away and forgot it long time ago.

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anything contradicts with they Quran then throw it in the garbage . but wait  .


(2:134)
(2:141) "This is a people that have passed away; they shall have what they earned and you shall have what you earn, and you shall not be called upon to answer for what they did."

i think we must not spread hate for something we doesn't know and didn't see and not sure of dear brother Osama. there are no Umawi or Abbasi nations today . and consider us lucky that we have Quran with it lovely variant readings for some different words where the reminder content and it's significance is still the same and for who pleases to go straight.. it came like a pearl , and step by step , see Verse (75:16)

Allah used to raise nations over nations, negative over positive and positive over negative for the sake of evolution . everything is happening by his willing we need to understand Allah and fix what who before us have done , the yahood and nazarenes are getting fed on our sectorism and illiterate and hate that they made to us within each others.

(57:22-23) "Naught of disaster befalleth in the earth or in yourselves but it is in a Book before we bring it into being - Lo! that is easy for Allah -That ye grieve not for the sake of that which hath escaped you, nor yet exult because of that which hath been given. Allah loveth not all prideful boasters,"

we must stop history hate and blame because this is making new sects . (6:159)"Surely they who divided their religion into parts and became sects, you have no concern with them; their affair is only with Allah, then He will inform them of what they did."

if there are lots of Sunnah Hadeeths saheeh are false so what do you expect from 150years or later of the prophet's time biographies.

"What aileth you that ye hope not toward Allah for dignity, When He created you by (divers) stages? , See ye not how Allah hath created seven heavens in harmony, And hath made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a lamp? And Allah hath caused you to grow as a growth from the earth, And afterward He maketh you return thereto, and He will bring you forth again, a (new) forthbringing."

The religion of Islam is Hijacked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-PfwXd7Xdo


anti christ myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhdC14lRcKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woe-M48AQIw

we need to be a new protestant about what happens before and stops the opening of the older files dear. it wont create except more problems and troubles.

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