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Just one correction to what you posted: black holes are actually really cold (not hot)--almost at a temperature of absolute zero.

Actually, let me correct my own saying. Black holes are freezing cold on the inside, but incredibly hot just outside on its surface.

Thank you very much Osama!

I've done my own analysis of this, and I've found a verse that conclusively and unambiguously confirms the bible has been corrupted:

[Quran 4:157] And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

In this verse, Allah is telling us that Jesus was actually never crucified, however, the bible states he was crucified. So we decisively deduce that therefore the bible has been corrupted as the original bible given to Jesus by God would not have included such lies. This is unequivocal evidence that the Quran teaches there was textual corruption of the bible.

The Quran teaches that it is the word of Allah, and Allah is thus speaking to us in this verse which leads us to necessarily deduce that the modern bible we have has been subject to textual corruption.

Now, the nonbeliever may claim that this verse was only written because the prophet Muhammad did not know what is in the bible and the prophet Muhammad made this mistake. First, this is circular reasoning on their behalf because they start out with the assumption that the Quran is written by the prophet Muhammad, and not Allah, but more importantly, Muhammad being the author of the Quran is a false statement and it is not what the Quran teaches. We are interested in what the Quran is teaching about the corruption of the bible. The Quran claims that it is the word of Allah, and thus when Allah speaks to us in verse 4:157, he is confirming to us conclusively and unequivocally that the bible has been corrupted.

Done. End. Resolved.

If you'd like, you can add this to your website!

I've heard that Quran 2:79 is not really referring to the Jews, but the "ummi", the gentiles who write books, because the verse right before 2:78 is talking about people who don't know the book, writing the book.

Also the others say that the Quranic mensions of "distort the scripture" is "by their tongue". So they are not describing the written text being distorted, but the way they speak, they distort it.

If someone can show me that the context of this verse is referring to the Jews corrupting the scripture, that would be very helpful! 

If there is any new thing you could add, it would be helpful to me for native Arabic speakers like Osama to help prove that the Quran conclusively says the older scriptures were corrupted.

I forgot to mention.

Here is the direct NASA source, published in 1969 (when Apollo 11 happened), saying "The total weight of the lunar material returned by Apollo 11 was 22 kg, of which 11 kg were rock fragments more than 1 em in diameter and 11 kg were smaller particulate material."

This is from NASA themselves at the time this happened:

https://www.history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/as11psr.pdf

Scroll down to page 124 in the document itself (or page 115 in the PDF itself)

It is actually enough that we have the 1389 verses after it and the 54:1 seconds the LM departed the moon. That would've have been sufficient. But the Quran also gave us 22 kg and 22 hours on the moon. We did not need these 2.

This verse corresponds to when the moon was split and how much of the moon was split off.

Summary:

Quran 54:1 talks about:

• A time progression ("the hour has come near")
• A splitting of the moon ("and the moon has split")

(When you split something, it is not necessarily by one half. You can split something by a quarter, by a third, by two thirds etc. Saying something was split does not specify how much it was split. It could have been split in many different ways)

And:

• There are 1389 verses after Quran 54:1, which is the lunar year corresponding to the solar year 1969, when we visited the moon and took a part of it. ("the hour has come near")
• Quran 54:1 corresponds to the minute and second that part of the moon was taken away ("and the moon has split")
• Quran 54:1 has exactly 22 letters corresponding to the amount in Kg that was split from the moon ("and the moon has split")
• The word "moon" in this verse is the 22nd time it occurs in the Quran (when you count the title of chapter 54--"the moon" which is another occurrence of the word "moon" corresponding to the hours spent on the moon's surface

This is 3 layers of significance . 3 layers of improbability. or 3 "coincidences", lol. Such a finding is very very improbable if by chance.

There is even more!

The number of Arabic letters in this verse (Quran 54:1) is 22 letters.

Apollo 11 (the first mission to the moon) extracted 22 kg of moon rock

Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1727968.pdf?casa_token=j30XTaKHcPMAAAAA:aXeKNtKVu3YOHy9l6dlZEQVRHddgtzTlT32u-mi227oZYJm33C-kOYGm4vPPfU5Q4y73mrIKw0F6t9WTukubQe5iPRsDF0Fe_F_403Y5h7VxNiswazDT

[Quran 54:1]: The Hour has come near, and the moon has split

Sura (Chapter) 54 of the Quran is THE ONLY chapter in the Quran titled “Al-Qamar” which means “The Moon”.

The form of the word "splitting" in arabic language when the Quran is describing this event can also be used as a form of ploughing the lands because there ARE other verses in the Quran using this "splitting" word, for example when the Quran describes rain waters "splitting" the ground )

And now If we are to count all the remaining verses right after this specific verse right all the way to the end of the Quran, we will count exactly 1389 too! The year 1389 Hijri in the Muslim calendar corresponds exactly to the year 1969 AD in the Gregorian calendar, the year in which man landed on the moon for the very first time and ploughed the moon's surface of about 22 kg of moon soil. On July 20, 1969 ( 6th day of the 5th month of 1389 Hijri ), as part of Apollo 11 mission, astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the Moon, and bring back to earth about 22 kg of moon soil.

It is very telling that the number of verses after the moon verse is exactly the year of the moon landing. This is quite interesting. July 1969 corresponds to the year 1389 (not 1390, don't make that mistake, the Hijri calendar is different, so the years are not 1:1, look it up for your own reference).

We should note that it is true that the Quran was NOT numbered at the time of the prophet. But the Quran is from God and God said that he would compile it. So the numbering of the Quran later than the prophet Muhammad was influenced by Allah who promised he would do it and preserve the Quran. So if the Quran is true, and Allah exists, wrote it and promised he would compile it, then he would compile the verses and their numbering in the Quran--which this evidence would indicate that indeed Allah did and that the numbering of the Quran after the prophet was indeed influenced if not caused by Allah by virtue of these miracles.

What are the odds there would be exactly 1389 verses after that moon verse? That verse could have been any number, but what are the odds it was exactly 1389, the year humans landed on the moon? It could've been 1390, 1391, 1400, 1500, 3000, any other number, but it was 1389--the year of the moon landing.

Lets read the following verses after (54:1) –
“The moon has split and the hour has drawn closer. Then they saw a great miracle; but they turned away and said, “Old magic.” They disbelieved, followed their opinions, and adhered to their old traditions.” (The Quran, from 54:1 to 54:3)
Here, the author of The Quran specifically states – “the moon has split”, then people will see “a great miracle”, yet they still “disbelieved”. Could the “great miracle” be the fulfillment of prophecy? The quran makes it clear that the moon has split when the hour has drawn closer--which is already hinting that this is a future event when the hour has come nearer.

(One of the signs of the Day of Judgement. The Arabic uses the past tense, as if that Day were already here, to help the reader/listener imagine how it will be. Some traditional commentators hold the view that this describes an actual event at the time of the Prophet, but it clearly refers to the end of the world: cf. the same expression with reference to the sky, 55: 37; 84: 1.)

But non-withstanding what that verse actually means, let's ignore what the verse means--what are the odds that the number of verses after the first verse of the only chapter titled the moon would be 1389--the exact year humans land on the moon. The chances of this are very low. It seems like 99.9999999+% chance that it could have been literally any other number, but why was it this significant number?? It could've been any number, but it was this one, the one number that has direct significance to the first Apollo mission...Why did the quran have the number of verses it does and not more/less, why was that chapter conveniently placed in a spot such that there was exactly 1389 verses after it? What are the odds, it could have been any number, any number of verses could have existed etc etc!

What are the odds that the number of verses after the first verse of the only chapter titled the moon would be 1389--the exact year humans land on the moon. It could've been any non-significant number, but the number it happened to be was the most significant number to humans that would ever reference the moon.

I've always had an issue with the case of the Quran having "miracles" in it.

Think about it this way. If the Quran had an irrefutable miracle in which it is 100% certainly true, then everyone would become a Muslim. If this happens then there really is no test. Allah stated that life is a test. DO you really think Allah is going to give us the answers to the test, or do you think Allah wants us to strive hard and study hard in order to pass this test?

Given this, Quranic statements must be sufficiently clear to guide someone with an open heart to Islam but at the same time, they must be sufficiently vague so that it does not guide someone with a closed heart who refuses to extensively study the Quran and find the answers.