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In the Bible / Re: Marrying your children???
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:32:08 PM »
"Dr. Zakir thoroughly demonstrated and proved from the Bible's New Testament that Christ never died on the cross, nor was he ever resurrected. In fact, the word resurrected was never even mentioned in the NT. It says Jesus was raised, which means he never died. Watch the debate and see all of the NT verses that Dr. Zakir Naik gave that thoroughly demonstrated and proved this:"
You're kidding right? You're going to prove from the NT that Christ was not raised from the dead? LOL. Is that what passes for argumentation in Islam? I'd be ashamed to post that video on my web site if I were you. It is laughable.
To deal with your points in reverse order: how did you come to **make up** the idea that 'raised' means that Jesus never died?
Here are some examples where 'raised' is explicitly placed in conjunction with 'died' or 'dead' to show that your idea is untenable:
And as they were coming down the mountain,
Jesus commanded them, "Tell no one the vision,
until the Son of Man is **raised from the dead**."
(Matthew 17:9)
Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised
(Romans 8:34)
He [Jesus Christ] was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was
made manifest in the last times for the sake of you who through him are
believers in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory,
so that your faith and hope are in God.
(1 Peter 1:20-21)
There are dozens of such places which demonstrate the completely arbitrary assertion you are making. Please explain how 'raised' means that Jesus never died. That ought to be interesting!!
But as for your initial point, that 'resurrected' is never used in the NT, it is a red herring. It is a misleading assertion. The word 'resurrection' is used in many places. Why not mention those places?
Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,
which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning his Son,
who was descended from David according to the flesh and was declared to be the Son of God
in power according to the Spirit of holiness by **his resurrection from the dead**,
Jesus Christ our Lord, through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about
the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations,
(Romans 1:1-5)
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to
his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope
through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
(1 Peter 1:3)
Wow, I wish I could have debated that man. It would not have been a pleasant experience for him.
In Christ,
Jim
You're kidding right? You're going to prove from the NT that Christ was not raised from the dead? LOL. Is that what passes for argumentation in Islam? I'd be ashamed to post that video on my web site if I were you. It is laughable.
To deal with your points in reverse order: how did you come to **make up** the idea that 'raised' means that Jesus never died?
Here are some examples where 'raised' is explicitly placed in conjunction with 'died' or 'dead' to show that your idea is untenable:
And as they were coming down the mountain,
Jesus commanded them, "Tell no one the vision,
until the Son of Man is **raised from the dead**."
(Matthew 17:9)
Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised
(Romans 8:34)
He [Jesus Christ] was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was
made manifest in the last times for the sake of you who through him are
believers in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory,
so that your faith and hope are in God.
(1 Peter 1:20-21)
There are dozens of such places which demonstrate the completely arbitrary assertion you are making. Please explain how 'raised' means that Jesus never died. That ought to be interesting!!
But as for your initial point, that 'resurrected' is never used in the NT, it is a red herring. It is a misleading assertion. The word 'resurrection' is used in many places. Why not mention those places?
Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,
which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning his Son,
who was descended from David according to the flesh and was declared to be the Son of God
in power according to the Spirit of holiness by **his resurrection from the dead**,
Jesus Christ our Lord, through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about
the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations,
(Romans 1:1-5)
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to
his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope
through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
(1 Peter 1:3)
Wow, I wish I could have debated that man. It would not have been a pleasant experience for him.
In Christ,
Jim