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Lmao, I will prove you wrong, and refute everything I will say, I hate it when 'new converts' try to tell other muslims and interpret ahadith in their way, even though the points given are a load of crap. I will make a new topic.

I actually made a wall of text before, but I did something wrong, So i lost it all, and was not bothered to retry to gather it all.

Quote from: adnaanshaikh195 on January 22, 2013, 10:27:09 PM

The statue of liberty, is Nimrod's wife and his mother.
Also, the freemasons/illuminati were not founded in the 18th Century.
They go way back, Nimrod was one of the earliest founders.

Also, the Dajjal is a literal person, but freemasonry is his system, we are likely to see him our life time, (May Allah protect us all).
Christians don't worship the sun.

Scripture says many will be misled by the one-eyed, and only the believers can read the 'kufr' on his forehead. What is the importance of the forehead? In the Qur'an, it is well known that lying is generated from the forehead. Thus, he will use mental deception and mislead the youth. I have interpreted this in my own way. The "one-eyed" is a reference to Horus, and the believers will see through Christian sun worship. Dajjal = Christianity.

Think about it! Christians worship on SUNday when the Sun is rising from the East, they pray towards the EAST. Jesus is a great ripoff of the ancient Egyptian sun God Horus: 12 disciples, "only begotten son", death for three days then resurrection, birth under the star Sirius, followed by three kings, it goes on and on but no one will notice and no one will care. This is the power of Dajjal.

Bro, the Dajjal will be a literal person, he will emerge in Isfahan (Iran) with 70,000 jews behind him, this will happen at a time where the muslims will me in Constantinople and after victory, we will have news that the dajjal has arrived, and 1 third of the army will run away of fear, who Allah will not forgive.

The dajjals system is freemasonry, but the Dajjal (the antichrist) who'm all prophets warned about will be a literal person who Allah has sent to the jews after how they rejected Isa Aleyhi salam, Dajjal is not Christianity, even though Christianity is paganism, the antichrist is someone who the christians wait for too, but they interpret it as Obama and other foolishness along with it, Isa Aleyhi salam will descend in Syria and will chase after him and kill him at the gate of Ludd, don't interpret things out of the blue bro, aren't you a convert? The dajjal is the greatest fitnah mankind will have. He will come when the sea of galilee dries up which is soon, when Israel is the ruling state of the world etc, we don't have a khilafa atm and Imam Mahdi is going to be our next (maybe) Allah knows best.

Btw, the reason why Christianity is the way it is today, is because Constantine, in the year 325 AD in order to stop conflict with Christians who were always at war with them, he held a meeting known as the Nicea Council, and they then discussed wether Jesus was divine etc and they chose what gospels should be chosen etc, if you want the history of freemasonry I am willing to explain it all, at the council that's when paganism concepts were introduced, such as the resurrection bogus etc. The trinity itself was created as an establishment then too, but it's not just there that it began, it exists in the religion of Nimrod, Hinduism etc, basically constantine introduced paganism into the true teachings of Isa Aleyhisalam, you should learn about Paul too and how he was a freemason who used a dual identity who hijacked the faith, aka Christianity today.

Watch this video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fas6DQ9ZZ1o

As for Christianity, they worship Isa Aleyhi salam because it is there intention too, Allah will question Isa Aleyhi salam on the day of judgement in front of them and ask him if he asked them to worship him, Isa Aleyhisalam will return soon, which is likely in the next 30 years or less, and there will be more Judaism and Christianity, and the world will become muslim. Yajuj and Majuj will fight against him etc and Im guessing you already know what will happen with the worms etc. When Dajjal comes there will also be 7 entrances in Medina where the angels will protect him from entering, there are 7 today!, also he will camp outside, and he will say that is the Palace of Ahmad (Prophet Muhammad sallalu aleyhi wasalaam), and you know what's interesting? At the time this hadith was recorded, the Prophet's (salallahu aleyhi wasalaams)  mosque was only a house.

Please read the following, because even the strong muslims will approach the Dajjal when he comes thinking they will not fall for him, but instead they will become one of his followers!

http://www.discoveringislam.org/end_of_time.htm

There are many sections, including the Imam Mahdi section and the Dajjal, and what signs will come before it.


This site is excellent, the main page, but the only thing it lacks is the end times, as in the Dajjal and Imam Mahdi, The Dajjal is not completely metaphorical in the way Osama Abdallah thinks it is (I think he thinks that).

And kindly STOP interpreting ahadith in your own way, if you have any questions, ASK Me, i study the end times, history of religions (I am a student of comparative religion) literally all the time (In my free time).

And btw, HORUS does not exist, so stop making foolish interpretations in saying that 'Horus' will misguide people and make them one of his followers, The dajjal is the false-messiah the Jews await for, I repeat, he dajjal is the false-messiah the Jews await for.

Peace be upon you.

peace
look my brother in religions, ive got something to say
CALM THE F*** DOWN!!!!
no need to be hurling insults
first, i compared Israel to Hitler if you read my last comment, remember "but hey so was hitler", please dont tell me you think hitler is a good guy. If you didnt get it i meant that we could learn from the israelis
As for the Arab vs. Israeli or Muslim, you said that the children of abraham (semites) have the right claim to palestine, and thats why muslims should be in Palestine. first of not all muslims are semites, indonesians, persians, hui, turks are not semitic.
and by the way i said IsraeLI (the Zionist Europeans) not ISRAELITES (the Ethnic group). THis means the modern day citizens of israel are mostly of european decent, not hebrew.
your statement about the 10 lost tribes are the people in aghanistan, is a theory which could quite possibly be true, but thats not part of the disscussion.
Dont tell me its not an arab-zionist conflict as well, some of the most notable palestinian nationalist were arab christians who were fighting for palestine. George Habash was the founder of the PLO and PFLP, and he is just 1 example.
dont sound too violent, you sound like you cant wait to slaughter every jew that comes under your power, i know you dont mean that but watch what your saying, some people may think your calling for genocide.
If you reply, please make your argument and be civilised, dont start baraging

Ok whatever, but DONT bring up crap about how muslims should learn and take the 'good' traits from the 'Israeli's'. I agree, it's a arab-zionist conflict too, but it's also a judaic-zionist conflict too!, they slaughter the jews who oppose them too, may Allah protect us all.

Peace
Ive heard that muslims cannot be nationalistic and patriotic because the prophet forbade "asabiyah". Its true that the prophet forbade it but asabiyah is hating some group for the soul reason of your family or race, sometimes you can see this in the arab and muslim world against jews (even anto zionist ones), and vice versa.
You can be nationalistic in islam and love your fatherland, just dont be racist.
Proud Arab Nationalist
PEACE

Um, what you need to realise that Jews today, 80% of them are anti-s emetic, in other words they aren't descendants of Ishaaq (Peace be upon him). Arab and muslim worlds? This is all bogus, you fell for it, they portray the Palestian vs Israeli conflict as arab vs Israeli, but what you need to realise it's muslim vs israeli, NOT arab alone.

Being non-nationalistic does not include going against jews, i'm not saying that you should hate jews, but when muslims hate jews it's due to religion, not nationality, Muhammad (Sallahu Aleyhi wasalaam) was sent to mankind, infact it's been proven that Bani Ishaaq are afghans today, (Jews from before), are you telling me arabs hate them? Ofcourse not, they are our muslim brothers.

As for 'There is only God's comment on arrogance is sin, it's true, it's not good to be arrogant, but being proud (the bad way) means don't be arrogant, but being proud as in happy is completely different.

For centuries man has worshiped nature, the night sky, the stars, personified the constellations. Astrotheology tells us that all religions are derived from a common source: The Sun.

It was true to me, that in the past, astronomers could predict the weather and the rain, the harvest seasons, everything. So they personified the sky and made religions, to deceive the emperors into thinking that they had some divinity in them ("I can predict the Sun will disappear tomorrow, unless you offer me 30 pieces of silver!"). However, looking deep into Islam: Islam has zero pagan astrotheological concepts! I always wondered, all these books on comparative mythology, mention so little about Islam. Then I realized, OH! Moslems were masters at astronomy! After I read a verse from the Qur'an on Osama Abdullah's site, I realized, Islam actually tells us in the Qur'an that the moon can be used as a calendar!. Islam does NOT have ANY astrology-related worship. It is truly a miracle that Islam was not founded on deception like Hinduism, ancient Mythology, Christianity, etc.
In fact, this had caused some people to lie that Moslems worship the moon, and I know now that truly that is not the case!

Correct, I am a student of comparative religion.
All movements today begun as monothiest because messengers/prophets were sent to ALL nations for their people, but Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings be upon him) was sent to all of mankind.

If you research Pauline Christianity and it's roots, you will realise that Paul was a freemason who incorporated so much crap into the message of Islam, i.e submitting to the creator (God Allmighty) alone. But the movement of the sabbath for example to Sun-DAY is a pagan incorparation (As in the day the Christians go to church), the trinity also exists amongst other religions too, it never began in 'Pauline' Christianity, it existed before within Nimrod (Nimrod the son, his mother the base, and the spirit) and also between the pagan hindu Gods (Which still exists today), long story short the message of Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him was hijacked with the pagan romans infiltrating it, they tried to do it to Islam (Not the romans necessarily) with Shiite Islam for example.

Even Judaism today has been hijacked, yes hijacked, the Talmud for example, is mostly the base of Judaism, most Jews today think that the talmud outlines the Torah and that the Torah should not be followed anymore, in fact, the Star of David according to research, is NOT connected to David (King Dawood) or King David, but it is a symbol linked directly to freemasonry.

Infact, the roman calender (Gregorian calender is incorporated in western countries today too, and the base of the days are based on paganism too), but Islamic countries as a base use the Lunar Calender, which is more accurate as a whole.
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Fri-day ETC - All based upon paganism, Saturn-day, Sun-day.

But the days of the islamic calender are Day 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. (Something along those lines, I will reconfirm it).

Jesus (Peace be upon him) never claimed divinity or was never resurrected (that's all bogus), it's all connected to the pagan Gods. The resurrection concept exists among the pagan Gods (I.e resurrecting 3 days after death etc).

If you want the origins of the Pauline Christianity I'm happy enough to present it to you, i.e the divinity of Jesus finally chosen at the year 325 AD where they also choice what gospels should be chosen etc.

The earliest followers of Jesus (Peace be upon him) recognized and saw him as a MIGHTY messenger sent by God, NOT GOD himself.

May God guide you.

Qur'an was revealed in the 7th century, and it contains scientific facts discovered in the 20th century.

Also here's what the Qur'an says about astronomy:

What the Qur'an says about Astronomy
1) Big Bang - Creation of the heavens and earth:
"To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth; when He decrees a matter He said to it: "Be"; and it is." (2:117)

2) Stars are fixed to guide the travelers in the land and the sea:
"And it is He who ordained the stars for you that you may be guided thereby in the darkness of the land and the sea." (6:97)

3) Judgment Day:
"One day the Earth will be changed to a different Earth and so will be the Heavens and (men) will be marshalled forth before Allah the One the Irresistible." (14:48)

4) Constellations:
"And verily in the skies We have set constellations and beautified it for beholders." (15:16)

5) Stars and other signs to be used for directions:
"And marks and sign-posts and by the stars, (men) guide themselves." (16:16)

6) Creation of Mankind and Heavens By Allah:
"See they not that Allah Who created the heavens and the earth has power to create the like of them (anew)?...." (17:99)

7) Big Bang:
"Don't the Unbelievers see that the universe was once joined together, then We burst it apart. We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe." (21:30)

8. Sun Moon Stars subjected to His Law:
"If indeed thou ask them who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); they will certainly reply Allah." (29:61)

9) Sun is moving:
"And the sun runs towards its destination (resting place) ...." (36:38)

10) Gaseous state of universe:
"Then He turned to the sky when it had been gas and said to it and the earth, condense willingly or unwillingly. And they said, "We condensed willingly." (41:11)

11) Creation of the heavens and earth, not mere idle play:
"We have not created the heaven and the earth and all that is between them in mere idle play. None of this have We created without an inner truth: but most of them understand it not." (44:38-39)

12) Expansion of the universe:
"And the universe, we constructed with power and skill and verily we are expanding it." (51:47)
13) Sirius (the Mighty Star):
"And He is the Lord of Sirius (the Mighty Star)" (53:49)

14) Space flight:
"O assembly of Jinns and men when you can penetrate regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate them! Not without power (or authority) will you be able to pass." (55:33)

15) Other galaxies:
"God is the One Who created seven heavens and of the earth a similar number. The command descends upon them so that you know that God has power over all things and comprehends all things in His knowledge." (65:12)

16) Seven Heavens, Stars, and the skies:
"He Who created the seven heavens, one above another: No want of proportion will you see in the creation of Most Gracious, so turn your face again; Do you see any flaw ....... And We have adorned the lowest heaven with lamps ...." (67:3-5)

17) Seven Heavens:
"See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another." (71:15)

18) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the stars are put out and when the sky is cleft asunder." (77:8-9)

19) Seven Heavens and the Sun:
"We have built above you seven strong (heavens) and placed a blazing lamp." (78:12-13)

20) Creation of Mankind and Heavens By Allah:
What! are ye the more difficult to create, Or the heaven (above)? (Allah) has constructed it; On high has He raised its canopy and He has given it order and perfection; Its night does He endow with darkness and its splendor does He bring out (with light). (79:27-29)

21) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the sun is folded up and when the stars loose their lustre." (81:1-2)

22) Planets (Retrograde Motion):
"So verily I call to witness the planets that recede." (81:15)

23) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the sky is cleft asunder and the planets are scattered and the oceans are forced to join." (82:1-3)

24) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"When the sky is split asunder and attentive to her lord, and it must do so." (84:1-2)

25) Constellations:
"Consider the sky full of great constellations." (85:1)

26) Moon, Stars, and Planets:
"By the sky and the night-visitant; and what do you know what the night-visitant is? It is the star of piercing brightness." (86:1-3)

27) Sky Raised High:
"And at the Sky how it is raised high?" (88:18)

What the Qur'an says about moon
1) Crescent moon as the standard to be used for reckoning of time:
"They ask you about the waxing and waning phases of the crescent moons, say they are to mark fixed times for mankind and Hajj." (2:189)

2) Moon is not my Lord:
"When he saw the moon rising in splendor He said: "This is my Lord." but when the moon set he said: Unless my Lord guide me I shall surely be among those who go astray." (6:77)

3) Sun and Moon to be used for reckoning of time:
"And He who made the night for rest and sun and moon for reckoning of time. This is the decree of the Exalted, the All-knowing." (6:96)

4) Sun, moon, and the stars governed by laws:
"Allah is He, who created the sun, the moon, and the stars (all) governed by laws under His commandment." (7:54)

5) Moon is the measure of month:
"The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year) so ordained by Him the day He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are sacred; that is the straight usage.......Verily the transposing (of a prohibited month) is an addition to unbelief: the unbelievers are led to wrong thereby: for they make it lawful one year and forbidden another year in order to adjust the number of months forbidden by Allah and make such forbidden ones lawful. The evil of their course seems pleasing to them. But Allah guideth not those who reject faith." (9:36-37)

6) Sun is source of light and Moon is just light:
"It is He who made sun a lamp, and moon a light and measured stages so you know number of years and count (of time)." (10:5)

7) Joseph's Dream:
"Behold Joseph said to his father: O my father! I did see eleven stars and the sun and the moon: I saw them prostrate themselves to me!"

8) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"Allah is He who raised heavens without pillars that you can see; Then He established Himself on the throne; And He subjected the sun and the moon (to his law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (13:2)

9) Allah created Sun and moon, and He made them subject to you:
"It is Allah Who hath created the heavens and the earth and sendeth down rain from the skies......... He has made subject to you, the night and the day; the sun and the moon; and the stars in subjection by His command." (14:32-33)

10) Day and night, sun and moon, and stars made for you:
"He has made subject to you, the night and the day; the sun and the moon; and the stars in subjection by His command." (16:12)

11) Sun bright - Moon dark (no light):
"We made night and day two signs. The sign of night we made dark and sign of day we made bright. That ye may seek bounty from your lord and ye may know number of years and count (of time)." (17:12)

12) Orbits of celestial bodies:
"It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its orbit." (21:33)

13) All things bow down to Allah:
"See you not that to Allah bow down in worship all things in the heavens and on earth, the sun, the moon, the stars." (22:18)

14) Moon is reflected light of the sun:
"Blessed is He who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a lamp and a moon reflecting light (25:61)

15) Sun and moon are subjected to Allah's laws
If indeed thou asl them Who has created the heavens and the earth and subjected (to His Law), they will certainly reply, "Allah". How are they then deluded away (from the truth)? (29:61)

16) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"See you not Allah merges night into day and day into night; And subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (31:29)

17) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"He merges night into day and day into night; And subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (35:13)

18) Ordained orbits of celestial bodies:
"And the moon, we have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old, (withered, and curved-up like a sickle) date-palm. It is not permitted for sun to catch-up the moon, nor can the night outstrip the day; each swims along in (its own) orbit." (36:39-40)

19) Sun and moon continue in an orbit to their destiny:
"He created heavens and the earth in true proportions; He makes night overlap day and day overlap night and subjected the sun and the moon (to His Law); each one runs its course for a term appointed." (39:5)

20) Do not Prostrate to the Sun and Moon:
"Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the sun and moon. Prostrate not to the Sun and the Moon but Prostrate to Allah Who created them if it is Him ye wish to serve." (41:37)

21) Moon is split asunder:
"The hour (of Judgment) is near and the moon is split asunder." (54:1)

22) Celestial bodies tied to orbits:
"The sun and the moon follow courses exactly computed." (55:05)

23) Sun is source of light and Moon is just light:
"And made the moon a light in their midst and made the sun as a (Glorious) lamp." (71:16)

24) Swear by the Moon:
"Nay verily: by the Moon." (74:32)

25) Signs of Qiyamah (Judgment Day):
"And the moon is buried in darkness. And the sun and moon are joined together." (75:8-9)

26) Moon becomes full:
"And the moon when it becomes full." (84:18)

27) Moon follows the sun:
"By the sun and its radiant brightness; By the moon as she follows him." (91:1-2)

IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ISLAM, JUST REPLY TO ME, I WILL REPLY BACK TO YOU, WELL PUT EFFORT TO.

I'll do this one by one.

Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ.

Moslems believe in Christ.

Horus, the ancient Egyptian God, was a personification of the Sun. During the winter solstice on December 21, the sun stops moving South and resides on the Southern cross (Crux) constellation for three days. Then, on December 25, the Sun actually moves about one degree upwards. This personification led to Horus being crucified for three days, then reborn. In fact, in the countries where the pagan practice of Christmas, the Sun does not even appear on the three days, meaning it has officially 'died' for three days. The three kings myth in the bible is also from Horus. The star of the East, Sirius, along with the Orion belt (The three kings), point towards the Sun rise on Christmas Eve. This is where they got the story of the three kings following the birth of the Sun. The parallels continue! The twelve apostles are nothing but the twelve Zodiac constellations. As for Jesus turning 'water into wine', it is a reference to how the Sun can ferment grapes in water and turn them into wine. The 'walking on water' trick is a reference to the Sun's reflection on the water. Baptism comes from the constellation Aquarius, under which the Sun rises upon. There are entire books on the issue! Judas betraying Jesus with a kiss of death is a reference to the Scorpio constellation. In fact, Autumn is known as fall, the fall of the sun. What makes the sun 'fall'? It resides on the Scorpio constellation, then moves south, causing a 'fall'. In Egyptian mythology, the scorpion's kiss of death makes the Sun fall. The scorpion is meant to be deceptive, and its bite resembles a sting. There is a lot more to it than I just showed you. You have to decide these overused facts in Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. Yourself:

* A son of God
* Walking on water
* Born on Dec. 25
* Performed miracles
* Resurrected the dead (The sun revives dead land)

Of course, one more thing was in common with all of these guys: Virgin birth. The virgo constellation comes shortly before the Sun rise on Christmas Eve, as if virgo was giving birth to the Sun.

WAKE UP! EGYPTIAN MYTHOLOGY IS ALL OVER OUR COUNTRY!!!

Isa Aleyhisalam is not a begotten son of God in Islam, if you say servant of God, that's fine, all prophet's are servants of God.
Walking on water(?)
Born on the 25th of December? Isa Aleyhisalam was not born in the winter, he was born in the summer/spring, which I can prove using the bible/or the Qur'an, and it's a historical fact.
Performed miracles - So what's you point?

The council of Nicea in the year 325 AD announced the divinity of Isa Aleyhisalam and chose what gospels should be chosen or not followed, never the less, it's not an issue anymore.
The trinity concept existed way earlier before Christianity came to exist, it exists amongst Nimrod, and other modern pagan faiths (Hinduism). Believe it or not, the trinity with nimrod was as follows, Nimrods mother, Nimrod (The son) and A spirit, all three are one in that bogus trinity concept, Nimrod actually had intercourse with his own mother, and his own mother was his wife (This was real)

Long story short, Christianity was hijacked, and all that Isa Aleyhisalam Ressurecting from the dead is all bogus, the earliest manuscript today of the bible today does NOT include the resurrection, it was a later insertion and also 'Paul' was a freemason who used a dual identity.

i believe that religious celebrations should only be the two eids. but secular celebrations, such as national day could be celebrated since its not an innovation of religion. as for mawlid, i personally don't celebrate it. as for sufis, they are deeply religious folk, you cannot accuse them of being obsessed with a christian way of life (you can accuse them of other things though). they are Aesthetics, but isnt that a good thing, to live a simple, religious life.

Sufi-ism has been hijacked.

Also, about Bukhari and Muslim 'cherry picking', please don't be ignorant. The chains of narrations etc were done to ensure that ahadith were reliable and trustworthy, i'm sorry if I offended you for celebrating 'Mawlid', but sorry, go do research.

Here is Imam Mahdi in the bible.

There are several End Times prophecies about the Mahdi in the Bible. The following are three of these prophecies:

1. The Mahdi is prophesied in Daniel 12 of the Bible and is referred to as Michael:

At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then.  (Daniel 12: 1)  (Source:  www.Bible.cc )


2. The following is a biblical End of Time prophecy about the Mahdi in Isaiah 19: 20 :

It will be a sign and witness to the LORD Almighty in the land of Egypt. When they cry out to the LORD because of their oppressors, he will send them a savior and defender, and he will rescue them.  (Isaiah 19: 20)   (Source:  www.Bible.cc )
 
 
3. Genesis 49: 10 of the Old Testament of the Bible is an End Times prophesy about the arrival of an important person who could be the Mahdi :
 
The scepter will not depart from Judah ... until he comes to whom it belongs and the obedience of the nations is his. (Genesis 49: 10)  (Source:  www.Bible.cc )

Also the Dajjal which will come is the same antichrist of the bible.