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Wa-alaikum as’salam akhi Osama,

You said in your post above (“it is quite clear from the Glorious Quran that Allah Almighty left the details of the experience to be looked at in the Christians books, since this topic is theirs.”) I want to remind all of us that this contradicts Quran. Allah said that He explained everything in Quran in great details, and He wants us to use only Quran.

(50:45) We are most knowing of what they say, and you are not over them a tyrant. But remind by the Qur'an whoever fears My threat.
       
(6:38) There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communities like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered. 

(30:58) And We have certainly presented to the people in this Qur'an from every [kind of] example. But, [O Muhammad], if you should bring them a sign, the disbelievers will surely say, “You [believers] are but falsifiers.”

(39:27) We have put forth for men, in this Qur'an every kind of Parable, in order that they may receive admonition.

(17:89) And indeed We have fully explained to mankind, in this Quran, every kind of similitude, but most mankind refuse (the truth and accept nothing) but disbelief.

(18:54) And certainly We have explained in this Quran every kind of example, and man is most of all given to contention.

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Salam Osama,

I totally understood your argument. You are saying that they placed Jesus on the cross, nailed him, etc until they believed that they killed him (i.e. he died), but Allah told us in Quran that he did not die.

Allah said “they killed him not, nor crucified him”. Why didn’t Allah say “they crucified him but did not kill him, but so it was made to appear to them”? In my humble understanding, Allah said “they did not crucify him” is self explanatory that he was not crucified or even came close to the cross. Then Allah continued and said (وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ and those who differ therein). My question is: what did they differ in? of whether he is dead or not. If so, they could simply continue to hit him many times in a sword and there is no reason to differ. What makes more sense to me that they differ in of whether he is Jesus or someone else?

Akhi Osama, please note that in no way I am enforcing my opinion on anyone but our purpose is we chat on the blog to understand the truth only.

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Salam again,

That's strange. For the second time I posted verse (39:42) اللَّهُ يَتَوَفَّى الْأَنفُسَ حِينَ مَوْتِهَا وَالَّتِي لَمْ تَمُتْ فِي مَنَامِهَا Allah takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not during their sleep.

I only see one word from this verse in my monitor (مَنَامِهَا). Please refer to (In my previous post, I said: ...)
 


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Akhi Osama, As’salamo Alaik,

Thank you kindly for taking the time to read my comments and for your response. May Allah reward you for your efforts. I just want to add few verses from Quran to illustrate further that another person was placed on the cross and not Jesus.

Allah said (shubbiha شُبِّهَ) means “alike” as in (Mo-ta-shab-ihan 2:25 and they shall be given the like of it); (Ta-shabah 2:70 to us all cows are alike); (Ta-shabahat 2:118 Their hearts are alike); and (3:7; 6:99; 6:144; 13:16, 39:23) 

If Allah meant that Jesus was the one who placed on the cross, He would have said (Hasebo  حَسِبُوا) means “think” as in (Haseb-tom 2:214 Or think you that you will enter Paradise without such (trials)); (yah-sabahom 2:273 The one who knows them not, thinks that they are rich); and (3:78; 3:142; 3:169; etc.)

Or, He could have said (Zano ظنوا) means “guess or think” (ya-zonon 2:46 Who bear in mind the certainty); (ya-zonon 2:78 and they but guess); etc.

Or He could have said (Shako شكوا) means “doubt” as (Shak 40:34 but ye ceased not to doubt); (Shak 41:45 they are in grave doubt); etc.

As you see, Allah said (shubbiha شُبِّهَ) to indicate that another person “looks like” Jesus. Dr. Laleh Bakhtiar precisely translated to “a likeness to him of another was shown to them”.

In my previous post, I said:
"Since Allah said that they never killed Jesus, then (مُتَوَفِّيكَ does not mean “cause you to die”, it means “cause you to sleep”) as in (39:42) below.
(3:55) Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ

(39:42) It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that die not (He takes) during their sleep اللَّهُ يَتَوَفَّى الْأَنفُسَ حِينَ مَوْتِهَا وَالَّتِي لَمْ تَمُتْ فِي مَنَامِهَا " but when I viewed the post, I only saw one word from this verse "مَنَامِهَا", thus I decided to mention it again.

Akhi Osama: regarding (يتوفى YATAWAFFA), I am very stunned of how you made a conclusion that “It is crystal clear that point #2 is the valid one. Jesus was taken up to Heaven ALIVE after being "killed" by the infidels.” But, Allah clearly said that they DID NOT kill him. Therefore, as I explained in my previous post, Allah caused him to sleep when He raised him.

I appreciate that you may not agree with me but this is my understanding from Quran. Jesus was never died or even placed on the cross. He was raised alive while sleeping. And Allah knows best.

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As’salamo alaik akhi Osama,

You said “I have no reason to conjecture.” But in fact you did when you said “but he (Jesus) was also given the power to feel no pain.  As I explained in the conversation, you could drive a sword right threw his gut and out his back, and he still wouldn't feel pain…” Can you kindly advise me where in Quran Allah said so?

According to Quran, Allah allowed Jesus to perform ONLY the following miracles by His will:
1.   (3:46) He will speak unto mankind in his cradle
2.   (3:49) And will make him a messenger unto the Children of Israel, (saying): Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird, by Allah's leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah's leave. And I announce unto you what ye eat and what ye store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you, if ye are to be believers.
3.   (5:112) When the disciples said: O Jesus, son of Mary! Is thy Lord able to send down for us a table spread with food from heaven?... (5:115) Allah said: I am going to send it down unto you …
4.   If you want, you can also read (5:110). It’s similar to verse (3:49) above.

Regarding Cross, please note that Allah said (وَلَـٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ but it appeared so unto them) which strongly support that another person alike Jesus was placed on the cross, otherwise Allah would have said (ولكن ظنوا But they thought). Allah clearly said “they slew him not nor crucified him” which supports (شُبِّهَ alike) i.e Jesus was never put on the cross.
وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَـٰكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ ۚ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا
بَل رَّفَعَهُ اللَّهُ إِلَيْهِ ۚ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا

(4:157-158) And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise

Since Allah said that they never killed Jesus, then (مُتَوَفِّيكَ does not mean “cause you to die”, it means “cause you to sleep”) as in (39:42) below.
(3:55) Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ

(39:42) It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that die not (He takes) during their sleep اللَّهُ يَتَوَفَّى الْأَنفُسَ حِينَ مَوْتِهَا وَالَّتِي لَمْ تَمُتْ فِي مَنَامِهَا


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Asèsalamo alaik akhi Osama,

I read your article and was surprised that you deny ascendant of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) into the sky (heaven). According to Quran, it’s crystal clear that he did.
 
(53:13-15) And he certainly saw him in another descent; Near the Lote-tree beyond which none may pass; Near it is the Paradise of Abode.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Salat in the Quran
« on: December 21, 2016, 03:29:48 PM »
As’salamo Alaikum:

I only read few lines from the article. I noticed that the writer chose to ignore Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) during calling for prayer (Adhan).

Allah raised some of His Prophets in degree.
(2:253) Those messengers - some of them We caused to exceed others. Among them were those to whom Allah spoke, and He raised some of them in degree.

For Prophet Mohammad (pbuh), Allah honored him to be mentioned everywhere i.e. when we call for prayer, with testimony (Shahadatian), in our 5 daily prayers, in takbeer Eid, and so on.
(94:4) And raised high for you your repute

I also noticed that he mentioned that there are only 3 daily prayers, Dawn prayer (2 rak’ahs), Middle prayer (2 rak’ahs) and Sunset prayer (2 rak’ahs).

As we know, all Muslims around the globe pray 5 daily prayers including other sects like Shiaa’, etc.
•   2 in morning (Fajr), 4 at noon (Zhohr), 4 at afternoon (Aser), 3 at evening (Maghrib), and 4 at after evening (Isha’a). The total of the 5 daily prayers is 2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4 = 17 rak’ahs.
•   In Quran, establish prayer is mentioned 17 times,
(أَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ): (2:43; 2:83; 2:110; 24:56; 30:31; 73:20; 4:77; 10:87; 4:103; 22:78; 58:13; 6:72),   
(أَقِمِ الصَّلَاةَ): (11:114; 17:78; 29:45; 31:17), and (أَقِمْنَ الصَّلَاةَ): (33:33)         

•   In Quran, “Bow down” is mentioned 3 times (ارْكَعُوا): (2:43; 22:77) and (ارْكَعِي): (3:43); and “Prostrate” is mentioned 6 times (اسْجُدُوا): (22:77; 41:37; 53:62), (اسْجُدْ): (76:26; 96:19) and (اسْجُدِي): (3:43). Since the number of Prostration is twice the number of bowing down, we bow down once and prostrate twice in every rak’ah.

Ibn Umar narrated that the Messenger (pbuh) said: Indeed Allah will not gather my Ummah (or he said: Muhammad’s Ummah) upon deviation, and Allah’s Hand is over the Jama’ah (group), and whoever deviates, he deviates to the Fire.

I don't know what else he said in the article because I didn't read all of it.

This is my understanding. If you know other things, please share it with us.

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Wa alaik as’salam akhi Osama,

I read your article. May Allah reward you for your efforts. I have noticed that you said “because Jesus was a spirit; Spirit not a flesh and blood like you and me.” Then the new Muslim said “but Allah says he ate food”. You replied “but he was not a normal flesh and blood”.

But Allah said that Jesus is alike Adam. And Adam is a normal human like me and you. Thus Jesus is a normal human like me and you but he is a Prophet. 
(3:59) Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.

Can you please explain this to me.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: 4:165
« on: December 20, 2016, 08:58:03 PM »
Wa-alaikum Assalam,

I wrote two articles on this topic based on what I understood from Quran. http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1492.0.html They are in the bottom of the post. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Keep smiling
« on: December 19, 2016, 12:57:46 AM »
Assalamo Alaikum,

I am choking: And wait patiently for the judgment of your Lord, for surely you are before Our eyes (انا اختنق) : (وَاصْبِرْ لِحُكْمِ رَبِّكَ فَإِنَّكَ بِأَعْيُنِنَا)
And how is that: You do not know that Allah may after that brings some new thing to pass (و كيف ذلك) : (لَا تَدْرِي لَعَلَّ اللَّهَ يُحْدِثُ بَعْدَ ذَ‌ٰلِكَ أَمْرًا)
And when: So be patient with a good patience, surely they think it to be far off, And We see it near (ومتى) : (فَاصْبِرْ صَبْرًا جَمِيلًا إِنَّهُمْ يَرَوْنَهُ بَعِيدًا وَنَرَاهُ قَرِيبًا)

O son of Adam … Keep smiling … Allah  (يا ابن ادم ... تبسم ... فان الله)
                                                      Didn’t cause you distress except to make you happy                      (ما اشقاق الا ليسعدك)
                                                      And didn’t take anything from you except to give you                    (وما اخذ منك الا ليعطيك)
                                                      And didn’t make you cry except to make you laugh                        (وما ابكاك الا ليضحكك)
                                                      And didn’t withhold from you except to give you from His favor       (وما حرمك الا ليتفضل عليك)
                                                      And didn’t try you except He loves you                                          (وما ابتلاك الا لانه يحبك)


وَسَارِعُوا إِلَىٰ مَغْفِرَةٍ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَجَنَّةٍ عَرْضُهَا السَّمَاوَاتُ وَالْأَرْضُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْمُتَّقِينَ
Be quick in the race for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and of the earth, prepared for the righteous (3:133)

So, please keep your duty to Allah!


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Assalamo Alaikum,

Jazak Allah Kair brother Osama. My apology, I forgot to say in my post that you must only go to Islamic sites to gain knowledge... but you already explained.

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Assalamo Alaikum, dear brothers and sisters,

I have been reading few articles that some brothers asking of why Anti-Muslim sites say so and so about Quran. Therefore, I decided to write to remind you that once you notice that this is an Anti-Muslim site, you MUST immediately close it.
 
Example: Allah told the believers in Quran to lower their gaze (from looking at any forbidden things). Thus, if you see a naked woman in bikini, you must turn your eyes away of her. However, if you choose to go and chat with her to explain to her Islam, then in my personnel opining you are only playing (deceiving yourself) because there are many other occasions/places to explain to her Islam. 

You are claiming that the Anti-Muslims sites are the major enemies to Islam. My two cents answer is: this is incorrect. In fact we (Muslims) are helping them to stay in business by visiting their sites and asking them questions. It’s very simple, if you open a store and no one buy from you, you will be out of business within a month or two. If you want to marry, would you go to a Strip Club to search for a wife!!! Therefore, why do you go to these sites? What would you expect the goal of these sites other than misleading Muslims and non-Muslims and promoting hatred against Muslims? Those Anti-Muslims sites are Satan (Shayateen Al-ins)

O ye who believe! follow not Satan's footsteps: if any will follow the footsteps of Satan, he will (but) command what is shameful and wrong (24:21)
 
Allah told us to deliver Quran to mankind but as He wants, not as we want. Our duty is to advertise in public media about Quran and invite them to contact us to explain to them Quran and answer any question they may ask. But if they reply to mock or undermine Quran, then we are not allowed to deal with them anymore.
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, Convey from me even an Ayah of the Qur'an; relate traditions from Banu Israel, and there is no restriction on that; but he who deliberately forges a lie against me let him have his abode in the Hell.

We all know that Allah sent a warning to Prophet Mohammad when he erred.
(The Prophet) frowned and turned away. Because there came to him the blind man (i.e. 'Abdullah bin Umm-Maktum, who came to the Prophet while he was preaching to one or some of the Quraish chiefs). And how can you know that he might become pure (from sins)? Or he might receive admonition, and the admonition might profit him? As for him who thinks himself self-sufficient, To him you attend; What does it matter to you if he will not become pure (from disbelief: you are only a Messenger, your duty is to convey the Message of Allah). But as to him who came to you running, And is afraid (of Allah and His punishment). Of him you are neglectful and divert your attention to another, Nay, (do not do like this); indeed it (this Qur'an) is an admonition. So whoever wills, let him pay attention to it. (80:1-12)

If you agree with me, please tell your friends/relatives about it. If not, please share your knowledge/suggestions with us.



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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Question about Zakir Naik
« on: December 12, 2016, 03:23:02 PM »
Assalamo Alaikum,

I have no problem visiting corrupted Muslims countries rulers to warn them of the punishment of Allah. But, children all over the Muslims countries in Palestine, Somalia, etc are dying every day from aggression, hunger, etc and the stones and the rocks are crying for these children while these rulers didn’t even cough. Therefore, I don’t believe that those rulers will accept to meet with anyone who will disturb them and remind them of Allah’s punishment. Allah knows best!

As for Ahmed deedat, I have no problem with him debating with Israel to explain to them Islam and by the way, this is our responsibility before Allah, but my concern is meeting with rulers who work 365 days per year to disunite, weaken, corrupt, etc their own people. I am also willing to go to the White House or Israel to explain to them Islam, but for the Muslims countries rulers, I’ll supplicate to Allah as Prophet Mosa did: Our Lord! Destroy their wealth, and harden their hearts, so that they will not believe until they see the painful torment.

After telling me that Brother Zakir is a very dedicated and active Muslim, I began thinking that this ruler did this on purpose to damage his reputation. Again, Prophet Mohammad said “whoever comes to the door of the Sultan, he will suffer a Fitnah (perverted).” Therefore, someone should inform Zakir.

I am glad that I asked. Thank you so much for updating me.


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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Question about Zakir Naik
« on: December 12, 2016, 12:41:27 PM »
Assalamo Alaikum,

Thanks for the update.

Akhi Ahmed: I would never accept to greet “shake hand” with rulers who turned 1.2 billion Muslims on earth to slaves. So I was stunned to see Zakir receiving a reward from this ruler and at the same time in Osama’s website. Therefore, I decided to remind you of what our Prophet told us, and also to ask for the reasons of why he met with this ruler in order to avoid unjust doubts.

It was narrated from Safiyyah bint Huyai, the wife of the Prophet (ﷺ), that she came to visit the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) when he was in I’tikaf during the last ten days of the month of Ramadan. She spoke with him for a while during the evening, then she stood up to go back. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) got up to take her home. When she reached the door of the mosque that was by the home of Umm Salamah, the wife of the Prophet (ﷺ), two men from among the Ansar passed by them. They greeted the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) with peace, then went away. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“Take it easy, she is Safiyyah bint Huyai.” They said: “Glorious is Allah, O Messenger of Allah!” And they were very upset by that (i.e., that he thought they may have some doubts). The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “The Satan flows through the son of Adam like blood, and I was afraid that he might cast some doubt into your hearts.”

Akhi Osama: Quote from your website “Here is a list of links that I highly recommend:” I think you may need to add few words to it!

If anyone could reach brother Zakir, please forward for him a copy of my comments. Again, we all are brothers and sisters and our goal is to keep the word of Allah is supreme, not our word.


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