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Agh,it all resorts to the common Quranist argument

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/questions_that_the_quranites_have_no_good_logical_responses_to


Even Your own Quranists

[48:24] He is the One who withheld their hands of aggression against you, and withheld your hands of aggression against them in the valley of Mecca, after He had granted you victory over them. GOD is Seer of everything you do.

(Rashad Khalifa translation)


And Rashad Khalifa translated most of it accurately,so you're also denying your own Quranist theory.

Issue is,you're making up arguments,and not backing them up,my point still stands if Muhammad SAW was from Petra there would've been some literature mentioning him out of the Quran in Petra since Muhammad SAW would've been a big influence to the Petrans.

Noice the Quranist is using ad hominems to escape the argument.

How can you take this guy seriously?

Look at him,he believes the earth is flat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP8QfiE9sxo

Dan Gibsons whole argument that Petra is Mecca,and its the Original Qibla,is all dependant on a topdown view rather than an exterior view of all the documented Mosques.

Infact even Modern Mecca has sorrounding Mountains and is a complete Valley,still

Your view is non Quranic,its worthless arguing with you.

Remember We made the House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer). (Surah Al-Baqara, 125)

From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord.And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do. (Surah Al-Baqara, 149)

Behold! Safa and Marwa are among the Symbols of Allah.So if those who visit the House in the Season or at other times, should compass them round, it is no sin in them.And if any one obeyeth his own impulse to good,- be sure that Allah is He Who recogniseth and knoweth. (Surah Al-Baqara, 158)

And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them.Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. (Surah Al-Baqara, 191)

And complete the Hajj or 'umra in the service of Allah.But if ye are prevented (From completing it), send an offering for sacrifice, such as ye may find, and do not shave your heads until the offering reaches the place of sacrifice.And if any of you is ill, or has an ailment in his scalp, (Necessitating shaving), (He should) in compensation either fast, or feed the poor, or offer sacrifice; and when ye are in peaceful conditions (again), if any one wishes to continue the 'umra on to the hajj, He must make an offering, such as he can afford, but if he cannot afford it, He should fast three days during the hajj and seven days on his return, Making ten days in all.This is for those whose household is not in (the precincts of) the Sacred Mosque.And fear Allah, and know that Allah Is strict in punishment. (Surah Al-Baqara, 196)

O ye who believe! Violate not the sanctity of the symbols of Allah, nor of the sacred month, nor of the animals brought for sacrifice, nor the garlands that mark out such animals, nor the people resorting to the sacred house, seeking of the bounty and good pleasure of their Lord.But when ye are clear of the sacred precincts and of pilgrim garb, ye may hunt and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part).Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah.for Allah is strict in punishment. (Surah Al-Ma’ida, 2)

But what plea have they that Allah should not punish them, when they keep out (men) from the sacred Mosque - and they are not its guardians? No men can be its guardians except the righteous; but most of them do not understand. (Surah Al-Anfal, 34)

Their prayer at the House (of Allah.is nothing but whistling and clapping of hands: (Its only answer can be), "Taste ye the penalty because ye blasphemed." (Surah Al-Anfal, 35)

How can there be a league, before Allah and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous. (Surah At-Tawba, 7)

Do ye make the giving of drink to pilgrims, or the maintenance of the Sacred Mosque, equal to (the pious service of) those who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and strive with might and main in the cause of Allah.They are not comparable in the sight of Allah.and Allah guides not those who do wrong. (Surah At-Tawba, 19)

Glory to ((Allah)) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless,- in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things). (Surah Al-Isra’, 1)


Now tell me,seeing all these verses,wheres Petra? Nowhere. Nor can Petra be the sacred Mosque because

1.No evidence saying Abraham built Petra
2.Its a christian place with Idols and churches,from basic knowledge we know the idols were broken,so how ckme there are idols there?
3.It has churches,no sacred mosque to be found again.

Dan Gibson never provided any ancient Map nor did Sam gerrans,

I provided historical maps like Ptolemy's map,what about it?