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Offline ahmed

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pagan origins?
« on: June 16, 2023, 03:31:42 PM »
someone said the hajj, tawaf and safa and marwa are pagan? can some refute this? may allah bless!

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Re: pagan origins?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2023, 04:30:42 AM »
Brother, Islam is the original, not the pagan practices.  Original Islam got lost for a while in Arabia after Abraham and Ishmael, peace be upon them, built the Kaaba in Mecca:

[034:044]  Although, prior to you We did not give them (the pagan Arabs) a book they could study, nor did We send a warner towards them.

[002:127]  And remember the time when Abraham and Ishmael raised the foundations of the house (Kaaba in Meca), praying, `Our Lord, accept this from us; for thou art the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing;

[002:136]  Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.


All previous Divine Books were prone for either getting lost or badly corrupted.  The Glorious Quran is the only exception.  Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/which_book_recited.htm



They (the pagans) had Islam during the times of Abraham and Ishmael, but that Islam later on got lost with time.  So pagans took over and injected idols and took what is not theirs and turned it into pagan practices.  Similar to hinduism.  It wasn't pagan, nor is worshiping the cow and idols and gurus is part of it.  Dr. Zakir Naik proved this in several of his lectures before.

Allah Almighty sent our Islam to the Arabs, 1400 years ago, because they had no religion, no Divine Books, no corrupt books like the people of the Book, and they (the pagan Arabs) were fresh and ready for a new Prophet and Islam.  Please visit:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/que2.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/Islam.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/which_book_recited.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac17.htm#links
https://www.answering-christianity.com/ishmael_not_arabs_father.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/tawaaf_around_kaaba_supported_in_bible.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/black_stone.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/kaaba.htm



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Re: pagan origins?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2023, 02:24:54 AM »
 Most of the Arabs had complied with the call of Ishmael (Peace be upon him) , and professed the religion of his father Abraham (Peace be upon him) They had worshipped Allah, professed His Oneness and followed His religion a long time until they forgot part of what they had been reminded of.

However, they still maintained such fundamental beliefs such as monotheism as well as various other aspects of Abraham’s religion, until the time when a chief of Khuza‘a, namely ‘Amr bin Luhai, who was renowned for righteousness, charity, reverence and care for religion, and was granted unreserved love and obedience by his tribesmen, came back from a trip to Syria where he saw people worship idols, a phenomenon he approved of and believed it to be righteous since Syria was the locus of Messengers and Scriptures, he brought with him an idol (Hubal) which he placed in the middle of Al-Kaabah and summoned people to worship it.

Readily enough, paganism spread all over Makkah and, thence, to Arabia, people of Makkah being custodians of not only the Sacred House but the whole Haram as well. A great many idols, bearing different names, were introduced into the area.

The Arabs believed that such idols, or heathen gods, would bring them nearer to Allah, lead them to Him, and mediate with Him for their sake, to which effect, the Qur’an goes:

“We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah.” [39:3], and

“And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: These are our intercessors with Allah.” [10:18]

The polytheists, who faked Abrahamism, were so far detached from its precepts, and totally oblivious of its immanent good manners. They plunged into disobedience and ungodliness, and developed certain peculiar religious superstitions that managed to leave a serious impact on the religious and socio-political life in the whole of Arabia.
Religions of the Arabs: https://www.muhammad.net/index.php/biographies/17-ar-raheeq-al-makhtum/605-religions-of-the-arabs

The polytheists who associated partners with Allah in worship admitted that He is the Sole Creator of the heavens, earth, sun, moon, day, and night, and that He is the Sole Sustainer of all Creation, Who grants all beings provisions, and Who has predetermined their destinies and decreed that they should be granted dissimilar amounts of provision in this worldly life, making some rich and some poor. They, just like Christ-worshippers, claimed that these idols are "the only way" to God/Allah.

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