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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / some help against a non muslim guy
« on: November 04, 2017, 11:51:25 AM »
Assalamualaikum guys,

There's a non muslims guy which has brought up some hadiths to prove that the Prophet PBUH killed civilians and "innocent" people, i already have refutations to most of his claims but i'm stuck with 3 hadiths, can someone please respond to them?

Narrated ‘Abdullah bin Masud :
The Prophet recited Suratan-Najm (103) at Mecca and prostrated while reciting it and those who were with him did the same except an old man who took a handful of small stones or earth and lifted it to his forehead and said, “This is sufficient for me.” Later on, I saw him killed as a non-believer.

Bukhari Volume 2, Book 19, Number 173

Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas’ud: Ibrahim said: Ad-Dahhak ibn Qays intended to appoint Masruq as governor. Thereupon Umarah ibn Uqbah said to him: Are you appointing a man from the remnants of the murderers of Uthman? Masruq said to him: Ibn Mas’ud narrated to us, and he was trustworthy in respect of traditions, that when the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) intended to kill your father, he said: Who will look after my children? He replied: Fire. I also like for you what the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) liked for you.

Dawud Book 14, Hadith 2680

Narrated Sa’id ibn Yarbu’ al-Makhzumi: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: on the day of the conquest of Mecca: There are four persons whom I shall not give protection in the sacred and non-sacred territory. He then named them. There were two singing girls of al-Maqis; one of them was killed and the other escaped and embraced Islam.

Dawud 14 number 2678

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: John 1:1
« on: November 04, 2017, 11:38:14 AM »
Brother Osama,

Thanks....as soon as i get something new about John 1:1 i'm gonna post it here...

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: John 1:1
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:16:13 AM »
The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation....

Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...

Revelation 1:2

2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ

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I tried correcting them by exchanging emails but they are stubborn, they seem to have been influenced by Rashad Khalifa's views...

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I wonder why they don't know that Qasim was the Son of the Prophet PBUH

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Those christians have their own commentary of the Quran by the way...based on their own understanding in parallel with the Bible

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What is your opinion about this Brother Osama?

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Another interesting quote...

 "Qasim ibn Abdullah was an illiterate young man who impressed a prosperous family and married an older woman. He was called and taught to read. He was named at one stage Abu Qasim which appears to indicate he had become a Monophysite priest. He certainly had no son named Qasim. He was however baptised as a member of the Church of God as the doctrines expounded in the Koran are exact doctrines taken from Scripture as were taught and expounded by the Churches of God over the two thousand years since Christ and the Apostles."

Interesting but weird as well...

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Assalamualaikum,

Brother Osama you should read this....

<Infidels' link removed>

Apparently according to them the first Muslims(Muhammad PBUH, his Family and the sahabas) and the Rashidun Caliphate formed part of the "True Church of God" of Arabia...Lots of things we may disagree on but it's pretty obvious...Though they have some pretty good opinion, they apparently used weak sources....looks weird but interesting to read...really weird...

Interesting quote:

 "From the actual writings of the Koran, it seems that the man and his group were key players in this great struggle for independence and Bible truth over the Trinitarian heresies that were being formulated in the West. They were allied with the Sabbatarian Christians to the West. These Sabbatarians, called “Paulicians”, formed the buffer in Asia Minor (up to the Taurus Mountains) against the Trinitarians that were using the Eastern Empire at Constantinople as their base.
 
The pagans destroyed the message of the Koran as the Pharisees did with the OT, and as the Roman Empire-based Trinitarians"


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I would like to clarify one thing, Doug is not a Unitarian at all, yeah he's a monotheist but he doesn't consider himself a Unitarian....which kinda explains his different yet excellent arguments against the Trinity...

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Any good books?
« on: October 25, 2017, 11:23:30 PM »
An Arabic book would do the job as well...

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Thank you brother Ghazali, that was useful...👍

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Any good books?
« on: October 25, 2017, 09:29:15 PM »
Assalamualaikum guys,

Can someone please tell me if there's any book which talks about the authenticity of Ibn Ishaq?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Any Good response to a Nazi?
« on: October 25, 2017, 09:25:20 PM »
Thank you brother Albarra ☺

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