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As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Jesus called himself EESA ???? in Luke 5:31, Matthew 9:12, Mark 2:17.  Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/eesa.htm .

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Incidentally, the Holy Quran again corrects the errors in the false Bible by saying that the moon, sun and earth move in different orbits.

Holy Quran

36:40 The sun is not required to overtake the moon, nor will the night precede the day; each of them is swimming in its own orbit.


6:96 [He is] the One who causes the dawn to break; and He has made the night to be [a source of] stillness, and the sun and the moon to run their appointed courses [all] this is laid down by the will of the Almighty, the All-Knowing.

14:33 and has made the sun and the moon, both of them constant upon their courses, subservient [to His laws, so that they be of use] to you; and has made the night and the day subservient [to His laws, so that they be of use] to you.

36:38 The sun runs to a specific destination, such is the design of the Noble, the Knowledgeable.

21:33 He is the One who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each swimming in an orbit.


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There is no angel named Azrael in the Qur'an. The angels of death are mentioned in general and they are innumerable. I mean, there could be quadrillions of them. And none of these angels in charge of taking life are named in the verses. Just like the scribe angels.

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All prophets and messengers are Muslims.


Holy Quran

3:67 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Nazarene, but he was a monotheist who submitted; he was not of the polytheists.

2:132 This very legacy Abraham left to his children, and so did Jacob, saying, "O My children! Indeed, God has chosen for you the Way of Life. Therefore, let not death overtake you except that you are Muslimoon" (Muslims = Submitters to God alone, guardians of peace. 2:236, 22:78).

3:80 Nor does He order you that you take the angels and the prophets as patrons. Would He order you to rejection after you have submitted?
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POLITICS & RELIGION /
« Last post by Wahrani on February 29, 2024, 01:18:55 PM »
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POLITICS & RELIGION / What I think, I say loud and clear!
« Last post by Wahrani on February 23, 2024, 02:33:49 PM »
Israel, a rogue state? The entity of Israel, a state with the ideology of Jewish religious Zionism still in search of an international legitimacy not recognized by the majority of neighboring countries, Jewishness alone is not enough to explain this savage colonization of Palestine with a very strong endogamy in the Jewish community, the reason is that they are afraid of disappearing... Israel's trump card in the world is the fundamentalist American Christians (evangelicals). Their support shifts from religious to political through AIPAC, which funds the campaigns of hundreds of select lawmakers to get Congress to approve everything that successive Israeli governments demand.
The West has forcibly erected Israel as a rogue state through powerful lobbies all over the world, which it is forbidden to mention under pain of insults, anti-Semitism and various and varied reprisals, thanks to a bewildering instrumentalization of the Holocaust. A rogue country that is racist, fascist, belligerent, xenophobic, and where the police fire live ammunition at protesters, especially if they are not Jewish, and which looks more and more like an apartheid regime. When the obsession with security masks the fear for whom military defeat means the death of the country. It is more than certain that Israel will disappear no matter how long it is given, the end will be the same, a graft cannot be tolerated for long by a body that rejects it.
So when Israel cries wolf, all the media in the Western world echoes, and it inflates funding for Israel, but as always, Israel plays on the trick of victimization, especially when it is Israel that attacks. However, the general observation is that Israel is in the process of revealing its traits of fundamentalist religious extremism, with racist tinges, of apartheid, which means that Israel is unquestionably in first place in the World Championships of Lies. This is not surprising, given that this state is prone to playing liar's poker when it comes to sowing diplomatic discord between nations, to which the Western world allows all kinds of turpitude under the pretext of past suffering.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Wahrani
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POLITICS & RELIGION / What I think, I say loud and clear
« Last post by Wahrani on February 23, 2024, 10:27:00 AM »
 The war imposed by Israel (The blessed land of Yahweh!) The question of the Palestinians is simple, it is known and it is being implemented by Netanyahu, that great hero of uninhibited Zionism, which consists of bombing or murdering all Palestinians, whether they are still in Gaza or clinging to the West Bank.  For the Zionist far right, Israel has been the land of the Jews for 75 years and all those who want to oppose it must either be driven out or massacred on the spot: this is the will of Yahweh, the one he expressed by making Israel the land of the Hebrews, their "Promised Land"!  A quick reminder: Palestinians have been at home in Palestine since the dawn of time. 
                                                                                              Wahrani
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In the Quran, an event is not described in a single surah. Different details of the same event are given in many suras. For example, the story of Noah is told very little in Surah Noah. But if you look at all the suras, that is, if you read the whole book, you can see all the details about the prophet Noah and Noah's flood. In the same way, all the details of all other events are in the whole Qur'an. Each surah gives some of the details, but if you read the whole book you will see all the details. Not only the events, but for example, how to Salaat, how to perform ablution, are explained in different surahs in different parts. You have to read the whole book to learn how to worship.

The false gospels/Bible are man-written books, so they are written in the style of history books. They distract you from the truth by giving you false information.

The only true holy book we have at the moment is the Qur'an.

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The entire Qur'an is a guide to goodness and virtue. Even the verses that tell us to fight evil are positive moral guidance. But if you want examples of verses, here are a few.

Holy Quran

16:90 God orders justice and goodness and that you shall help your relatives, and He prohibits immorality and vice and transgression. He warns you that you may remember.

2:44 Do you exhort the people to do good, but forget yourselves, while you are reciting the Book? Do you not comprehend?

2:83 And We took the covenant of the Children of Israel: "You shall not serve except God, and do good to your parents, and regard the relatives, and the orphans, and the needy, and say kind things to the people, and hold the contact prayer, and contribute towards purification." But then you turned away, except for a few of you; you were objecting.

2:148 And to each is a direction that he will take, so you shall race towards good deeds. Wherever you may be, God will bring you all together. God is capable of all things.

2:177 Piety is not to turn your faces towards the east and the west, but pious is one who believes in God and the Last Day, and the angels, and the Book, and the prophets, and who gives money out of love to the relatives, and the orphans, and the needy, and the wayfarer, and those who ask, and to free the slaves; and who upholds the contact prayer, and who contributes towards purification; and those who keep their pledges when they make a pledge, and those who are patient in the face of adversity and hardship and when in despair. These are the ones who have been truthful, and these are the righteous.

2:262 Those who spend their money in the cause of God, then they do not follow what they have spent with either insult or harm; they will have their recompense with their Lord, there is no fear over them nor will they grieve.

2:272 You are not responsible for their guidance, but it is God who will guide whoever He wishes. And whatever you spend out of goodness is for your own souls. And anything you spend should be in seeking the face of God. And whatever you spend out of goodness will be returned to you, and you will not be wronged.

3:134 The ones who spend in prosperity and hardship, and who repress anger, and who pardon the people; God loves the good doers.

11:115 And be patient, for God does not waste the reward of the good doers.

13:22 Andthose who are patient seeking the face of their Lord; and they hold the contact prayer, and they spend from what We have bestowed upon them secretly and openly, and they counter evil with good; these will have an excellent abode.

16:90 God orders justice and goodness and that you shall help your relatives, and He prohibits immorality and vice and transgression. He warns you that you may remember.

16:128 God is with those who are aware and are good doers.

23:61 These are the ones who race in doing good, and they are the first to it.

27:89 Whoever comes with a good deed will receive better than it, and from the terror of that Day they will be safe.

28:54 To these We grant twice the reward for that they have been patient. And they counter evil with good, and from Our provisions to them, they give.

28:77 "And seek with the provisions bestowed upon you by God the abode of the Hereafter, and do not forget your share in this world, and do good as God has done good to you. And do not seek corruption in the land. God does not love the corrupters."

28:84 Whoever brings forth a good deed, he will receive a better reward than it. And whoever brings forth a sin then the retribution for their sins will be to the extent of their deeds.

46:15 And We enjoined man to do good to his parents. His mother bore him with hardship, gave birth to him in hardship, and his bearing and weaning lasts thirty months. So that, when he has reached his independence, and he has reached forty years, he says: "My Lord, direct me to appreciate the blessings You have bestowed upon me and upon my parents, and to do good work that pleases You. And let my progeny be righteous. I have repented to You; I am of those who have submitted."

55:60 Is there any reward for goodness except goodness?

99:7 So whoever does the weight of an atom of good will see it.

4:35 And if you fear a permanent rift between them, then send a judge from his family and a judge from her family. If they want to reconcile, then God will bring them together. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.

8:61 And if they seek peace, then you also seek it, and put your trust in God. He is the Hearer, the Knowledgeable.

25:63 Andthe servants of the Almighty who walk on the earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they say: "Peace."

2:25 And give good news to those who believe and do good works that they will have estates with rivers flowing beneath them. Every time they receive a provision of its fruit, they say: "This is what we have been provisioned before," and they are given its likeness. And there they will have pure mates, and in it they will abide.

2:82 And those who believe and do good works, they are the people of the Paradise, in it they will abide.

90:17 Then he has become one of those who have believed, and exhort one another to patience, and exhort one another to kindness.

4:58 God orders you to deliver anything you have been entrusted with to its owners. And if you judge between the people, then you shall judge with justice. It is always the best that God prescribes for you. God is Hearer, Seer.

4:135 O you who believe, stand with justice as witnesses to God, even if against yourselves, or the parents or the relatives. Even if he be rich or poor, God is more worthy of them, so do not follow desire into being unjust. And if you twist or turn away, then God is Expert over what you do.

11:85 "And my people, give full in the measure and the weight equitably, and do not hold back from the people what is theirs, and do not roam the land corrupting."

38:26 O David, We have made you a successor on the earth. Therefore, you shall judge among the people with the truth, and do not follow desire, lest it diverts you from the path of God. Indeed, those who stray off the path of God will have a severe retribution for forgetting the Day of Reckoning.

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

55:9 And observe the weight with equity, and do not fall short in the balance.

60:8 God does not prohibit you from those who have not fought you because of your system, nor drove you out of your homes, that you deal kindly and equitably with them. For God loves the equitable.
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Isa Al Masih
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on September 28, 2023, 01:37:49 PM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Mohammed,

Welcome back.  The Islamic awaited Messiah has a lot in common with what the old scriptures say about him, but you can't base our Islamic Messiah entirely on the previous scriptures, because they contain ample corruption in them.

Please visit:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac24.htm#links
https://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
  (Prophet Muhammad, the Arabian Prophet, predicted)


Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Isa Al Masih
« Last post by Mohamed Saif on September 26, 2023, 02:29:23 AM »
Assalamu Alaikum dear brothers

It's been a while since I posted here. We know that the Jews have been waiting for this figure since time and the Old Testament too speaks of this figure in variety of places such. We also know that this figure will have a certain role to play according to the Old Testament. He will be:

The Descendant of David: Traditional Jewish belief holds that the Messiah will be a descendant of King David. This belief is based on passages like 2 Samuel 7:12-16 and Jeremiah 23:5-6, which speak of a righteous branch from David's lineage who will rule as a king.

The Ingathering of Exiles: The messianic era is expected to include the gathering of Jewish exiles from all corners of the world back to the land of Israel. This concept is rooted in passages like Isaiah 11:11-12 and Ezekiel 37:21-22.

Rebuilding of the Temple: Many Jewish traditions anticipate the rebuilding of the Third Temple in Jerusalem during the messianic era. While this is not explicitly stated in the Hebrew Bible, it is inferred from passages like Ezekiel 37:26-28.

Universal Knowledge of God: It is believed that during the messianic age, all people will come to recognize and worship the God of Israel. This idea is based on texts like Isaiah 11:9 and Zechariah 14:9.

World Peace: The arrival of the Messiah is associated with an era of universal peace, where nations will cease to wage war. This vision is found in passages like Isaiah 2:4 and Micah 4:3.

A Time of Righteousness and Justice: The Messiah is expected to bring an age characterized by righteousness and justice, where the poor and oppressed are uplifted. This notion is drawn from texts such as Isaiah 11:3-4 and Isaiah 42:1-4.

We know that the Quran calls Jesus as Al Masih which means "The Messiah". So is Isa Al Masih of the Quran the awaited Messianic Figure of the Old Testament?
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In this paper, I will talk about the "crosswise" mentioned in Maide 33, but before that, I would like to briefly introduce another topic;

I also get a lot of questions about the punishment for theft according to the Qur'an. There is a lot of focus on whether the punishment for cutting off the hand is to cut it off completely or to scratch it and mark it.

When we consider the Qur'an in its entirety, the generally agreed conclusion is this;

In the book, the expression "cutting off the hand" in cases of theft includes all 3 meanings:

1- Cutting off his hand

2- Scratching (marking) your hand

3- Cutting off his means, i.e. imprisonment and similar restrictions.

It is noteworthy that in the story of Prophet Joseph, which is described in the verses, we see that the thief was detained, that is, imprisoned.

We think that the verses ask for one of these 3 practices depending on the magnitude/degree of the theft and the situation of the thief. In addition, the victim, i.e. the owner, can forgive the thief if he wishes, or there may be cases where the thief is not punished at all due to other special circumstances (e.g. stealing out of hunger/necessity, kleptomania/stealing disorder, etc...). Considering that the verses already authorize the relatives of the victim to forgive, i.e. mitigate the punishment, even for the crime of murder, which is the most serious violation of individual rights, it means that the same door of forgiveness is always open in the case of extortion of property/money, which is a relatively minor crime.

But as I said at the beginning of my article, I would like to address the issue of "crosswise" mentioned in verse 33 of Surah Maide and I will say something new about it. The situation is exactly the opposite of what is believed. The practice of crossing the hands and feet was actually practiced by the pagans against those who did not submit to them/Muslims, and what the verse is referring to is the struggle for defense by responding in the same way against the oppressors who did not give up this practice during the time of the prophet.

First of all, it should be well understood that the verse is about the Muslims fighting a defensive war against aggressors.

As I have already stated in this article, only self-defense, i.e. defensive warfare, is permitted in Islam:

And this verse, which also speaks of self-defense, speaks of retaliating against those who persecuted the believers at the time and persisted in doing so, and making them taste/return what they had done:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/kuranda-sadece-nefsi-mudafaya-izin.html

Surah al-Ma'idah 33: "The recompense of those who fight Allah and His Messenger and seek to make mischief in the land is this: They shall be killed, or hanged, or their hands and feet shall be cut off crosswise, or they shall be driven out of their homes. This is a disgrace for them in this world. And a great torment for them in the Hereafter.  34. Except those who repent before you seize them. So know that Allah is most forgiving, most merciful."
   
As I have said, the Qur'an only calls for self-defense and retaliation against the oppressors who attacked Muslims out of the blue at that time and refused to give up the war and refused to make peace. As the Qur'an tells us, the pagans had been practicing this practice of crosswise against Muslims since time immemorial (especially the Pharaohs of Egypt). In order to understand the subject, you should first read my study:

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/msr-firavunlarnn-caprazlama-merak.html

As Texe Marrs explains in his book Codex Magica, in Ancient Egyptian religion, the "X" or "crosswise" was a symbol of the sun god Osiris and therefore sacred to them. Egyptian kings were buried with their hands and feet crossed. The X symbol is frequently seen in inscriptions from the ancient Egyptian civilization and on the walls of temples and pyramids. They also used this crossing ritual to punish those who opposed them.

The verses also inform us that pagans have been obsessed with crosses since ancient times, even while committing violence against Muslims. In the incident described in Surah Taha, we see that Pharaoh attempted to use the crossing of hands and feet against Muslims:

Surah Taha

63. They said: "They are nothing but two sorcerers. They want to drive you out of your land by their sorcery and destroy your exemplary way.
64. "So join your skills together, then come together in ranks! Today, the one who prevails will be saved. "
65. They said: "O Moses, either show your prowess, or we shall be the first to show it. "
66. Moses said: "No, you throw!" And what did he see! Their ropes and sticks and their incantations made him think that they were really running.
67. Suddenly Moses felt a sudden fear within him.
68. We said: "Fear not, it is you who will prevail!"
69. "Put down what is in your right hand! Let it devour what they have produced as an industry. What they produce as an industry is only a sorcerer's trick. And the sorcerer does not prosper wherever he goes. "
70. Then the sorcerers fell prostrate and cried out: "We believe in the Lord of Aaron and Moses!"
71. Pharaoh said: "You believed in him without my permission? He is your elder who taught you magic. I swear by Allah that I will cut off your hands and your feet crosswise, and I swear by Allah that I will hang you from palm trees. Then you will know which of us will have a more severe and lasting punishment. "
72 They said: "We will never prefer you to the clear proofs that have come to us and to the One who created us. Execute your judgment. Your judgment is valid only in the life of this world. "

The pagan, Spiritualist/Spiritualist-based teaching of the Pharaohs, which held the sign of the cross sacred, was not limited to the ancient Egyptian period. It has survived to the present day under various names all over the world (Jewish mysticism was also built on the basis of this teaching) and still continues to this day (for example, in Far Eastern meditations, legs are crossed and trance is entered, etc.).

Spiritualism, which has continued to immerse people in shirk for thousands of years in its various versions, was of course influential on the pagans in the time of our prophet, as it was in every period. And so the polytheists of that time continued the same violence and methods against the Muslims. Just as they had done in the times of previous prophets.


                            Some pictures from Texe Marrs' Codex Magica     

 

 

 




And again, in Surat al-Ma'ida, it is presented as an option, as a defense strategy, to retaliate against the pagans/spiritualists who have been cutting the hands and feet of Muslims crosswise since time immemorial and who continue to do so, i.e. to do the same to them. Those who expelled the prophets and their followers from their countries were likewise expelled from their countries, and those who attacked them were responded to in the same way, in short, the permission of "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" was mentioned. And as I said, when we read the book in its entirety, we see that this permission for defensive warfare given to Muslims ends if the attackers stop what they are doing to the believers and make peace.

In other words, the cross here has nothing to do with theft or whether the person believes or not. It only calls for a war of defense and retaliation against those who physically attacked them, that's all. Otherwise, everyone is free to believe or not believe whatever they want and to direct their lives accordingly. According to the Quran, no one can even be slapped because of their beliefs.

Greetings and love

(My Turkish article translated with machine)
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