Bible: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!

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[TheEyeofGod]

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Peace be upon you brother TheEyeofGod,

First of all, I would like to welcome you to the board.  I ask Allah Almighty to continue to lead you to the Right and True Path of Islam.  Ameen.

As to your post, I never said that Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, will not be from David's line.  I also proved that John 7:40 proves that Jesus is different from the Prophet, in my first post above.  It is very well detailed from the Bible.  The Jews clearly were expecting two different men:

1-  The Messiah.
2-  The Prophet.

And as I've thoroughly proven above from both the Old and New Testaments, the Arabian Prophet who will come from the EAST (Arabs), and will bring a new Covenant, and will be an Arab, and will smash the idols, is indeed Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  His Prophetic name is also Ahmed.  This is in the Glorious Quran, and the name is also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

As to Jesus' return, he clearly said he'll return from the EAST.  The Biblical verses that you provided for refutation do not disprove or refute this point at all.

Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm#capsule.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[MuslimBoy]

As-Salamu Alaikum Every one,

Jesus (Peace be Upon Him) was Born to a virgin. So, why did the lineage matter?
I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.

[TheEyeofGod]

As-Salamu Alaikum Every one,

Jesus (Peace be Upon Him) was Born to a virgin. So, why did the lineage matter?
I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.

.                                                                                Jesus is surely from David lineage. Read MATHEW 1:1-17.                                                                                              The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah

1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:

2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
Perez the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,

4 Ram the father of Amminadab,
Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,

5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,

6 and Jesse the father of King David.
David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,

7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa,

8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
Jehoram the father of Uzziah,

9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,

10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amon,
Amon the father of Josiah,

11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.

12 After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,

13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
Abihud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,

14 Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Elihud,

15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,

16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah.

******** is forty-two generations Abraham to the messiah***

[MuslimBoy]

As-Salamu Alaikum Every one,

Jesus (Peace be Upon Him) was Born to a virgin. So, why did the lineage matter?
I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.

.                                                                                Jesus is surely from David lineage. Read MATHEW 1:1-17.                                                                                              The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah

1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:

2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,
Isaac the father of Jacob,
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
Perez the father of Hezron,
Hezron the father of Ram,

4 Ram the father of Amminadab,
Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
Nahshon the father of Salmon,

5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
Obed the father of Jesse,

6 and Jesse the father of King David.
David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,

7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
Abijah the father of Asa,

8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
Jehoram the father of Uzziah,

9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,
Jotham the father of Ahaz,
Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,

10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
Manasseh the father of Amon,
Amon the father of Josiah,

11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.

12 After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,

13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
Abihud the father of Eliakim,
Eliakim the father of Azor,

14 Azor the father of Zadok,
Zadok the father of Akim,
Akim the father of Elihud,

15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
Eleazar the father of Matthan,
Matthan the father of Jacob,

16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah.

******** is forty-two generations Abraham to the messiah***

I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.

And What about this?
 




Luke 3:31 the son of Melea, the son of Menna,
the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan,
the son of David,

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One shall read from Isaiah 41 till end 42. And when one reaches Isaiah 42:1, it will be clear that it can not prophecy Jesus due to the fact that Holy Spirit descent over a Servant of God. As that would mean Jesus need to exist in flesh without Holy Spirit to begin with.

If we read Isaiah 42:1. God said "I have put my spirit UPON/AGAINST/OVER him (the hebrew word being used does not indicate my spirit WITHIN/BORN WITH him NOR does it say TO CREATE FLESH of him):... he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.."

Which befits prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as after receiving divine guidance of Holy Spirit ; he himself spread the religion of One God to gentiles (other than Children of Israel). Jews have already worship One God and righteous Jews anticipated the coming of Holy One prophesied in Isaiah 41 & 42.

Thus it is not Jesus (pbuh) as he did not preached to Gentiles and as mentioned in Isaiah 42:1 , God placed Holy Spirit onto His servant . Would  not this simply mean that Jesus needed to exist without Holy Spirit first and God later lets the Holy Spirit descend down to him inside the womb of Mary? ?

BUT the most important fact about the prophecy in Isaiah 42 is that Descendant of Ishmael will rejoice and uphold God's Law. Pauline Christians have abandon God's Law for Paul believe that God's Law has ended upon ascend of Jesus to heaven. Thus Paul created new Laws of his own specifically for the Romans.

So we can conclude that Jesus (even with inclusion of Paul) can never fulfill Isaiah 41 & 42.