what muslims have to say to this? about an American's Wife Faces Sudan Death Penalty For Marrying A

[TheEyeofGod]

[Black Muslim]

Are you going to look in the mirror or should I force you to look into it ?

[TheEyeofGod]

Are you going to look in the mirror or should I force you to look into it ?

.                                                                                Brother does what you replied related to the post?  anyway I didn't get your point, can you please expanciate on it.

[shabeer_hassan]

The vision of the Qur'an as regards the matters such as
individual, society and the like is totally different from that of the
materialistic ideologies. This is evident also in its penal laws. Islam is
never in consonance with the Freudian school of thought which sees
in man nothing but a mere puppet that could never break free of the
strangulating influences of the circumstances of his birth and
environment. The Marxian view that it is economic change alone which
determines all feelings of self and values is also alien to Islam. The
outlook of capitalism, too, which holds that the full light of personality
can shine forth only if those born free are also allowed to live their
lives in complete freedom,is also rejected by Islam. However, Islam
recognizes the fact that wealth, circumstances and environment all
have their effect on the personality of men. But the person, as such, is
never created by them. The individual feeling of self and the capacity
to decide his stand in differing circumstances are the prerogative of
the soul. Indeed, this has been the divine grace endowed upon man,
and man alone. For it is this very soul that enables him to distinguish
between good and evil and to decide his own choice between the two.
It is the individuals who constitute a society. It is, moreover, the
divine laws which seek to purify the individual. It is certain, then, that
the society which is made up of individuals who imbibe, within
themselves, the moral laws will be one in which peace and goodness
reigns. The individual is obliged to obey these laws. For it is only through
this that a self-purification becomes possible. Even so, there will be, in
every society, at least some who try to deviate from the moral code. If
such people are not stopped, it might spread and spread in evil becoming
rampant in the society ,thereby,leading to a state of anarchy and chaos.
The laws of the Shariah are meant to prevent such a perpetuation of
the evil.
The very objective of the penal laws in the Qur'an is to maintain
the individual and society in a state of constant purity. Islam does not
envisage a view whereby the individual may be sacrificed for the society
or the society for the individual. Nevertheless, the capitalistic outlook
which does not tolerate even the slightest encroachment of the individual
and the communist view which holds that even the most basic urges
of the individual ought to be sacrificed for the society are both alien to
Islam. The vision of Islam, on the other hand, holds that it is never a
mutually clashing relationship which must exist between the individual
and society. It is values that necessarily binds them together
harmoniously. The penal laws of the Qur'an serve to purify the individual
and the society by way of protecting these values. Thus, they are
centered neither on the individual nor on the society.

[shabeer_hassan]

[shabeer_hassan]

[TheEyeofGod]

in the Qur'an.
MUSLIM GIRL MARRING WITH NON MUSLIM
MEN PROHIBITED BY THE LAW OF ISLAM,IT IS
PUNISHABLE OFFENCE ,SHE WAS A CITIZEN OF
SUDAN,SHE KNOW THE LAW ,THEN WHY SHE
BROKEN IT ? SHE HAS A CHANCE TO LEAVE THE
COUNTRY MARRY THE MAN AS HER WISH,BUT
SHE NOT UTILIZE IT,ISLAMIC LAW IS NOT FOR
CHILD GAME ,ITS STRICT ,IT FOR SOCIETY NOT
FOR PERSON,IF THEY FORGIVE IT ,MAY BE 1000
Meriam
Yahia Ibrahim ARISE FROM THERE ........

                                                                                              So are you saying who so ever know the truth should not let the truth set him/her free? She Have known the truth , that was why He got herself out of the bondage (by marrying a christian). 
I don't understand why most muslims  will
tell you that islam is a tolerant religion that holds the view that there should be no compulsion .  they force people to become a muslim while at the same time threatens anyone who might leave with death.
Even if this woman is eventually freed with the
help of international pressure on the government,
this sad affair along with numerous other such
cases continues to show us the other side of  islam that is brutal, evil and intolerant.
The fact that no one, especially somebody in her
condition should be subjected to this kind of
duress from religion in this modern age is an
indication that the muslim God Allah as revealed
by Muhammad and practiced today by its
adherents does not belong to this era. It should
either reform or be relegated to the dark pages of
history.

[Black Muslim]

I am no brother of yours . The religion is the red line that seperates us . I'm not sure about the judgement in the case of this woman and I leave it to someone who knows better . What I know is that hewr act is forbidden . But believe me , if you ever try to make comparisons between Islam and any other religion or ideology - Yes , that includes secularsim - then I swear you'll see that what ever you accuse Islam of exists double and more in the others be it Judaism and Christianity or anything else .

As for denying the clear narrations of apostasy and it's punishement , I'm really tired , tired of arguing about basic knowledge of Islam . And if most people here choose personal preferences and western preferences as standard to judge Islam which should be judging them , I'll refrain .

[shabeer_hassan]

[shabeer_hassan]

@other side of  islam that is brutal, evil and intolerant. ............

THE SERIOUSNESS OF LAW AND PUNISHMENT I SAYS TO U MY LAST POST ...............

WHAT WAS THE STATUS OF CRIME FROM NON MUSLIM COUNTRY,WHO NEVER TAKE A SERIOUSNESS OF CRIME & PUNISHMENT:

Total crimes (most recent) by country

RANK      COUNTRIES      AMOUNT
   
#1       United States:   11,877,218    
# 2       United Kingdom:   6,523,706    
# 3       Germany:   6,507,394    
#4       France:      3,771,850    
#5       Russia:      2,952,370    
#6       Japan:      2,853,739    
#7       South Africa:   2,683,849    
#8       Canada:      2,516,918    
#9       Italy:      2,231,550    
#10       India:      1,764,630    

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes

NON ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF CRIME COMPARE TO ISLAMIC COUNTRIES THE FOLLWING LINK GIVES U MORE DETAILS REPORT:

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html
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http://rechten.uvt.nl/icvs/images/graph05.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_by_intentional_homicide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate

WORLD MOST LEADING RAPEST COUNTRY:

Rank     Countries      Amount      

#1       Lesotho:       0.844 per 1,000 people       
#2       New Zealand:    0.315    
#3       Belgium:   0.299       
#4       Iceland:       0.286    
#5       Norway:       0.203
#6       Israel:      0.166
#7       Finland:       0.141
#8       Chile:       0.12
#9       Mongolia:   0.118    
#10       Ireland:       0.102

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

UN Rape Statistics:

RANK
1 United States of America   93883
2 Australia                   18237
3 United Kingdom        13272
4 France                                   10408
5 Germany      8766
6 Russian Federation      8185

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
http://www.yellodyno.com/pdf/Rape_Statistics.pdf

Divorce rate (most recent) by country

Rank     Countries      Amount   

#1       United States:   4.95 per 1,000 people    
#2       Puerto Rico:   4.47     
#3       Russia:      3.36     
#4       United Kingdom:   3.08     
#5       Denmark:   2.81    
#6       New Zealand:   2.63     
#7       Australia:   2.52    
# 8       Canada:      2.46     
#9       Finland:      1.85     
#10       Barbados:   1.21    

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorce-rate

List of countries by alcohol consumption:

 Moldova      18.22   
 Czech Republic   16.45   
 Hungary      16.27   
 Russia      15.76   
 Ukraine      15.60   
 Estonia      15.57   
 Andorra      15.4
11.30      15.30   
 Slovenia      15.19

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption

LIKE THAT................
Assault victims (most recent) by country
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_ass_vic-crime-assault-victims
Car thefts (most recent) by country
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-crime-car-thefts
 Murders with firearms (most recent) by country
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms
Suicide rates in ages 25-34 (most recent) by country
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sui_rat_in_age_25_34-suicide-rates-ages-25-34
 Gun violence : Homicides &homicides with firearms
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom_hom_wit_fir-crime-gun-violence-homicides-firearms
Suicide rates in ages 15-24 (most recent) by country
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sui_rat_in_age_15_24-suicide-rates-ages-15-24


'World's Largest' Online Pedophile Ring Smashed In Europe
http://yellodyno.com/Statistics/statistics_child_molester.html

CHILD PROSTITUTION:

Romania: 2,000 minors victim to prostitution.

The Netherlands: 1,000 children walk the streets.

Northern Italy: 40% of prostitution affects minors.

Belgium: All sorts of young Albanian, Bulgarian, or Ukrainian girls ages 13- 16 years old were discovered in Brussels in 2000.

France:  The number would hit 8,000 according to estimations from 2003.

Cambodia: One-third of 50,000 to 70,000 of prostitutes are children.

Popular China: It is estimated that there are between 200,000 and 500,000 child prostitutes.

India: According to UNICEF, India is one of the countries with the most child prostitutes. According to a study from the magazine India Today, between 400,000 and 500,000 children are prostitutes in India.

Japan: In this country, child prostitution is frequent. Research has shown that most of the young girl prostitutes do not suffer from economic problems but are "victims" of a culture of consumerism. Minor girls decide to sell their bodies or participate in a pornographic film in order to buy luxury products: cell phones, shoes, clothes. This often comprises very young girls who have either problems in their family or in school.

Nepal: It is estimated that 12,000 Nepali children, the majority girls, are victims each year of commercial sexual exploitation, whether in Nepal or in brothels in India or other countries.

Philippines: Between 80,000 and 100,000 children, the large majority girls, are victims of prostitution in the Philippines.

Sri Lanka: 30,000 children, mostly boys.

Taiwan: 100,000 minors subjected to sexual exploitation

Thailand: A study of the black market by the International Labor Organization in Thailand in 1998 estimates that prostitution represents 10-14% of the GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of the country in 1998. It is believed that one-third of Thai prostitutes, 24,000-40,000, are minors, sometimes abducted and sold. More than one-quarter are infected with HIV.

Vietnam: 12,000 minor prostitutes according to UNICEF. According to other NGOs, the figures would much heavier. More than 450 Vietnamese children less than 15 years old have been sent to Cambodia to be prostitutes in 2001 (UNICEF).

Brazil: One of the countries most affected by child prostitution (Fortaleza Airport has seen a constant increase from foreign visitors). There are no statistics for prostitution, but 100,000 children on the streets are "exposed" to sexual exploitation. Certain NGOs estimate much higher numbers.

Colombia: 5,000 to 7,000 children in Bogota

Venezuela: 40,000 minors victim to prostitution

Costa Rica: According to NGOs, there are at least 250 child prostitution locations.

United States: Between 244,000 to 325,000 child prostitutes

Canada: The country is becoming alarmed by the rise in child prostitution, notably amongst children of native peoples, victim to the sex industry. This child prostitution is caused by racism, lack of education, and poverty.

http://www.fondationscelles.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=87:la-prostitution-des-enfants-dans-le-monde&catid=10:fiches-thematiques&Itemid=12&lang=en

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse


Child sex tourism :

Thailand : 40% of prostitutes are child in Thailand
Northern Italy: 40% of prostitution affects minors.
Cambodia: 1/3 of prostitutes are child
 India : 1.2 million child prostitutes
 Brazil:  1.2 million child prostitutes
United States: Between 244,000 to 325,000 child prostitutes.
China: It is estimated that there are between 200,000 and 500,000 child prostitutes.
 Mexico:16,000 children in Mexico were involved in prostitution
 Sri Lanka, there are nearly 40,000 child prostitutes
In the Philippines, there are 60,000 to 100,000 prostituted children
In Nepal approximately 30% of them were found to be children.
in Vietnam, and 20,000 of these are children.
in Ukraine, research has shown that between 30 and 40 percent of prostitutes are between 11 and 18 years
in Russia approximately 20 to 25 percent of Moscow's sex workers are minors.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse