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Offline Uzair Ahmed

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« on: August 03, 2014, 05:33:05 AM »
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We were (sitting) in the mosque when the Messenger of Allah (?) came to us and said: (Let us) go to the Jews. We went out with him until we came to them. The Messenger of Allah (?) stood up and called out to them (saying): O ye assembly of Jews, accept Islam (and) you will be safe. They said: Abu'l-Qasim, you have communicated (God's Message to us). The Messenger of Allah (?) said: I want this (i. e. you should admit that God's Message has been communicated to you), accept Islam and you would be safe. They said: Abu'l-Qisim, you have communicated (Allah's Message). The Messenger of Allah (?) said: I want this... - He said to them (the same words) the third time (and on getting the same reply) he added: You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I wish that I should expel you from this land Those of you who have any property with them should sell it, otherwise they should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (and they may have to go away leaving everything behind).

Sahih Muslim Book 19 Number 4363

We see in this Hadith that "Accept Islam and be Safe" & "This World belongs to Allah and his Apostle"

Now a Christian asked me that if in Islam there is no compulsion in religion so why the Prophet said "Accept Islam and be safe" and why the Prophet is making equal with God by saying "The world belongs to Allah and his apostle"

Waiting for an best answer.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2014, 06:16:32 AM »
After the Jews' betrayal to the Prophet peace be upon him, it became necessary to punish them and cleanse them out of the Holy Lands:

 Prophet Muhammad's Model of Coexistence:
The Prophet of Islam and the Jews (Part 2)
(Basis of Conduct, Acceptance, Respect and Cooperation)
http://www.onislam.net/english/reading-islam/research-studies/comparative-religion/465519-the-prophet-of-islam-and-the-jews-part-2-.html

The Arabic word for earth is ?????????. Dr. Zaghloul El-Naggar states:

 

The word 'Earth' recurs in the Glorious Qur'an and in the Prophet's Ahadith referring to three other meanings according to the context. Sometimes it refers to the whole planet and at other times, to the dry mass on which we live, while at some other times, it indicates the topsoil covering the dry land rocks. (Dr. Zaghloul El-Naggar, Mountains to Stabilize the Earth, Source)

 

For instance, we know that the Arabic word used for Earth ????????? is used in Surah 2:61 to refer to land mass and not the entire planet. Or in Surah 2:71 we see that the cow being described to the Israelites is one that wonders on the Earth ?????????, but the context obviously shows that the cow is wondering in a specific area close by and not that it could be wondering anywhere on planet Earth. Or in Surah 4:97 where the oppressed believers tell the angels that they were oppressed on Earth ?????????, but the context denotes that they were referring to the specific land that they were residing in.

 

There are many other examples that I can provide, but I believe that the above examples suffice to show that context is important when wanting to know the meaning of a word. So the Arabic word ????????? does not only refer to the entire planet Earth, it could also refer to a certain area or piece of land.

 

I believe that the context of the hadith is clear that the Prophet (peace be upon him) was specifically talking about the land that the Jews were residing. The land belonging to "Allah and His Messenger" implies that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) will rule the land according to the laws of Allah.
http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_shamoun_on_monotheism_10

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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 12:44:35 PM »
Thanks for your answer.

#Question 2
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Salahuddin, I suggest you read the accomplishments of a prominent Greek physician, surgeon and philosopher in the Roman empire name Claudius Galenus or Galen - born AD 129. He was the most accomplished of all medical researchers of antiquity. He was also before Mohammed.

From the Quran:
Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay); Then we placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood, then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump, then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, The Best to create!"

From Galen:
But when it has been filled with blood (Arabic Alaqa), and heart, brain and liver are still unarticulated and unshaped yet have by now a certain solidarity and considerable size, this is the second period; the substance of the foetus has the form of flesh and no longer the form of semen.

This means that the reproductive system was already told by Galen before the Quran.So it means its not a miracle :(

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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 02:40:50 AM »
Thanks for your answer.

#Question 2
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Salahuddin, I suggest you read the accomplishments of a prominent Greek physician, surgeon and philosopher in the Roman empire name Claudius Galenus or Galen - born AD 129. He was the most accomplished of all medical researchers of antiquity. He was also before Mohammed.

From the Quran:
Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay); Then we placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood, then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump, then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, The Best to create!"

From Galen:
But when it has been filled with blood (Arabic Alaqa), and heart, brain and liver are still unarticulated and unshaped yet have by now a certain solidarity and considerable size, this is the second period; the substance of the foetus has the form of flesh and no longer the form of semen.

This means that the reproductive system was already told by Galen before the Quran.So it means its not a miracle :(

answer
http://www.islamicwritings.org/quran/medical-miracles/does-the-quran-plagiarise-ancient-greek-embryology/

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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 09:14:29 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 11:39:05 AM »
Peace,
Also note that the prophet said, "Aslimoo taslamoo", which literally means "accept islam and you will be be at peace". It is not necessarily a threat and remember, the prophet did not attack the jews until only after there betrayal, and even then he only attacked the tribes that betrayed him at that particular situation.
Bismikaallahuma gives a great analysis on the prophet's (PBUH) treatment of the jews.
Thanks,
Peace

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 12:49:56 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2014, 04:36:47 PM »
AsalamuAlaikum,

Your post is confusing. What is the source of these "Ahadith".

Is it Majmu Al-Zawaid or Bukhari?

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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2014, 04:51:50 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2014, 11:50:08 AM »
Okay can you answer #Question 4 & 5 ?


( I Will keep updating this topic and will post some small questions made by critics here,so stay tuned ! )

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2014, 05:21:16 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2014, 05:38:05 PM »
Thanks for your answer.

#Question 2
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Salahuddin, I suggest you read the accomplishments of a prominent Greek physician, surgeon and philosopher in the Roman empire name Claudius Galenus or Galen - born AD 129. He was the most accomplished of all medical researchers of antiquity. He was also before Mohammed.

From the Quran:
Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay); Then we placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood, then of that clot We made a (fetus) lump, then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, The Best to create!"

From Galen:
But when it has been filled with blood (Arabic Alaqa), and heart, brain and liver are still unarticulated and unshaped yet have by now a certain solidarity and considerable size, this is the second period; the substance of the foetus has the form of flesh and no longer the form of semen.

This means that the reproductive system was already told by Galen before the Quran.So it means its not a miracle :(

AsalamuAlaikum,

For now read:

http://islampapers.com/2011/10/02/does-the-quran-plagiarse-ancient-greek-embryology/

http://www.hamzatzortzis.com/essays-articles/prophetic-studies/did-the-prophet-muhammad-plagiarise-hellenic-embryology/

And watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdlIs0sgMx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX9vZr6Zxis

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2014, 11:16:12 AM »
#Question 6

Assalam-Alaykum
A Christian is saying me that "Muhammad had slaves but Jesus who lived many years before Muhammad did not had any slave so who is the nearer and pure in the eyes of God?"

So what should i reply him? Till now i already told him that Prophet Muhammad treated slaves with kindness and love and they were not slaves like him but there own Muslim brothers

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2014, 11:56:28 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2014, 07:17:10 PM »
Assalam-Alaykum
A Christian is saying me that "Muhammad had slaves but Jesus who lived many years before Muhammad did not had any slave so who is the nearer and pure in the eyes of God?"

So what should i reply him? Till now i already told him that Prophet Muhammad treated slaves with kindness and love and they were not slaves like him but there own Muslim brothers

I find such logic faulty.

As if one reads the Bible. You find many places Prophets taking slaves and owning slaves. And rules for owning slaves.

Is the person proposing that Moses, Aaron, Joshua etc are not close in the eyes of god as they took slaves?

 

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