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ISLAM VS ISIS,BOKO HARAM AND AL-QUEDHA
« on: October 24, 2014, 02:32:59 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2014, 12:14:42 PM »
Excellent Brother!

Can i add this to my website? I Will give you the credits :)

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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 10:28:50 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 12:13:25 AM »
You know , while I don't claim they are perfect or saints - except Boku Haram , they are clearly far from Islam - I still say they are a thousand times better than any western system . Why on Earth are we on the defense ? Did you forget what the Serbs did in Bosnia raping women , actual children , and elderly grandmas ?! Did you forget the colonization done by Europe ? Did you forget the fresh blood crimes of the US in Iraq and Afghanistan ? Did you already forget the Muslims of Burma and China ? Why should we be on the defense when talking to mass murderers ?! As for the state of Iraq and Sham , to be more fair , hear from both sides , because there are also testimonies in their favor . And as I said , they may not be perfect , but they are clearly better compared to any western system and some eastern systems too .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaA6NHsS9cE

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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 06:27:46 AM »
You know , while I don't claim they are perfect or saints - except Boku Haram , they are clearly far from Islam - I still say they are a thousand times better than any western system . Why on Earth are we on the defense ? Did you forget what the Serbs did in Bosnia raping women , actual children , and elderly grandmas ?! Did you forget the colonization done by Europe ? Did you forget the fresh blood crimes of the US in Iraq and Afghanistan ? Did you already forget the Muslims of Burma and China ? Why should we be on the defense when talking to mass murderers ?! As for the state of Iraq and Sham , to be more fair , hear from both sides , because there are also testimonies in their favor . And as I said , they may not be perfect , but they are clearly better compared to any western system and some eastern systems too .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaA6NHsS9cE

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother "Black Muslim",

Thank you for the video akhi.  It is very interesting.  I will add it to the ISIS section as "ISIS' response to the propaganda against them".  However, we still have the following problems:

1-  ISIS killing of those whom they capture after fighting.  I saw insane footage on TV of them shooting men in the head and dumping them into the river.

2-  Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is Jewish Simon Elliot.

3-  The school that ISIS belongs to declares Muslims like me as infidels or apostates for believing that only the Hadiths that agree with the Glorious Quran are closest to the Truth, since the Quran is AL-MUHAYMIN (the dominant authority over all books).

Can you honestly with a straight face deny these points?

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 11:41:23 AM »
this is a simple practice of coup d'etat except that its not led by officers within existing govt. Self appoint as ruler supported by own created army claiming to be new ruler toppling existing govt.

When one appoint self as ruler, he needs to show justice in administering nation, having allegiance from majority of districts under his ruling so citizens can easily accept him.
Such is not the case with ISIS.

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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2014, 02:40:50 AM »
1) I haven't seen for myself so I ask : Is it true ? If true , is it something they all agreed on or is it the act of individual soldiers ? Because there are cases of certain soldiers recieving punishment for acts they did . Heck , one of their officers was executed for terrorizing people and robbing them of their belongings thus becoming what Quran describes

5:33 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Also , is it in a full context ? Because you might think they're being cruel to someone yet you don't know what that person did . Shall I remind everyone how the brainwashed object on executing the Jews of Quraiza completely forgetting that they betrayed Muslims and aided their enemies against them ?

2) You know , it's funny . The shia say that the state is made by the "Wahabists" - which isn't a sect to begin with - , the Saudis say it's made by Iran , some say it's made by the US , some say it's made by the Jews , some say it's made by Asad - who doesn't match his name in a single thing - and some even say it's made by Al-Malki . How can they be made by all of those who wage war against them ? Need I remind you all of this sign of Quran ? :

49:6 O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.

So while I don't claim they're completely right , I am definitely not going to stand on the side of complete devils against them ! And I'm not going to believe all and any thing said against them by their enemies especially since a load of sickening lies were made and got exposed . Example ? The hate against them reached to the degree that they claim the state covers the udders of cattls so men are not aroused ! Who with a shred of logic believes such a thing on the fly without investigating ?!

3) Let me be honest Osama , I disagree with you and some members here in major things . It isn't like the differences of "Fiqh" between scholars where no one accuses the other of anything . These are fundamental things . For instance , you don't mind someone being insulting Allah , his religion , his prophets , or the companions . Heck , you did it yourself . Had someone said a filthy word about your mother , you would never say "He called my mother [bleep]" , that would be beyond stupid . So how come it's OK with the lord of your mother and all the creation ? As for the matter of rejecting Hadith because it "doesn't match Quran" , many have said that to the degree that they claimed Jews and Christians are right to stay on their religion - AFTER the message of Islam reaches them - , Christ peace upon him won't return , Yajuj and Majuj are volcanos , and so many other ridiculous and asinine statements . They always use the lame excuse of "Scholars are not perfect" as if THEY are when they discovered something the entire nation was ignorant of all these centuries . Had they asked about what they didn't understand , it would have been better , but it's mostly arrogance as the lord said :

10:39 Rather, they have denied that which they encompass not in knowledge and whose interpretation has not yet come to them. Thus did those before them deny. Then observe how was the end of the wrongdoers.

Many claim they only accept narrations that agree with Quran . Had they stopped and asked themselves "Maybe I'm misunderstanding something" they would have saved us a load of commotion . Hilariously , they object on the very same method Quran reached us .

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2014, 07:38:09 AM »
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For instance , you don't mind someone being insulting Allah , his religion , his prophets , or the companions . Heck , you did it yourself . Had someone said a filthy word about your mother , you would never say "He called my mother [bleep]" , that would be beyond stupid . So how come it's OK with the lord of your mother and all the creation ?

Show me where I allowed for Allah Almighty or Prophet Muhammad or the Glorious Quran or for Islam to be insulted here. 

As for the Hadiths, I don't believe for instance that Prophet Moses punched the Angel of Death in the face to delay his death, nor do I believe that Prophet Muhammad was bewitched by magic, nor do I believe that Aisha used to suckle adult men just to be alone with them.  And I don't believe in the lie of "Aunt of the Believers" that your cult has invented, which they also give to Muawiyah, "Uncle of the Believers".

The reader can visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

As to the examples that you gave, I don't know about Gog and Magog being volcanoes, for I never heard it before, but as for the rest, it is quite possible that Allah Almighty might decide for them to not happen, since they're not a Divine Promise in the Glorious Quran.  So it is possible for Allah Almighty to not send Jesus Christ back to earth, and to let him die a natural death outside earth.  If it's not a Divine Promise in the Quran, then there is room for it to be nullified.  However, since they don't DISGREE with or CLASH WITH the Glorious Quran, then there is no reason to reject them from the Hadiths.  The hadiths that clash with the Glorious Quran and Its Morality, as the ones I gave above, are to be thrown out in the garbage along with your cult.

I am one Muslim that firmly believes that there will never be peace with your cult and its offshoots.  ISIS is another rotten offshoot from your rotten cult.  I know that the likes of you would declare the likes of me as apostates once you gain power.  So you guys are nothing but snakes uttering lies to other Muslims and non-Muslims, and waiting to strike at the right time and go all out in a rabid way against all.  This stupid ummah deserves the backwardness that its in, because it allows itself to be ruled by rotten cults and heretics like your cult and the shias and the sufies, and the seculars and others.

Indeed, this ummah deserves these rotten fruits.  I am a Muslim who is in the Middle, as Allah Almighty Commanded me:

[002:143]  Thus We appointed you a midmost nation ??? ???? that you might be witnesses to the people, and that the Messenger might be a witness to you; and We did not appoint the direction thou wast facing, except that We might know who followed the Messenger from him who turned on his heels -- though it were a grave thing save for those whom God has guided; but God would never leave your faith to waste - truly, God is All-gentle with the people, All-compassionate.

We are Commanded by Allah Almighty to neither be in the left with the seculars, nor in the right with the idols worshipers of humans and old traditions.  We are Commanded to be right in the Middle of all.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 03:11:45 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 02:36:43 AM »
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I do know that you care what people think more than what you care about Islam itself .

As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

Here is the link that this guy is talking about:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog//index.php?topic=1570.msg6144#msg6144

Black Muslim, obviously lying is a creed to you.  It is nothing strange to see obnoxious and lying people from your rotten cult.  Seriously, I've run into several of them before.  You're just another salafi member from them.  I've given the link.  I'd like you to quote me where I insulted Islam, or where I cared more about what people think than Islam.

I seriously believe that your cult is a cult of thugs.  You are the worst enemies to Muslims.  You're just as filthy and dirty and obnoxious as the shias and others.  The minute you gain power, you turn into rabid dogs and start killing Muslims.  You'd even turn on each others (on your own members) for administrative positions.  We've seen this struggle of power from your own rotten salafi groups in Syria and Iraq.  Salafies on salafies struggle and killings.  You have no morals, and you carry a great deal of hate towards others.  Your cult is nothing but garbage that needs to be thrown in the dumpster.  This Muslim ummah must wake up to the cults that are corrupting it out there if it really wishes to become one True Ummah.  Otherwise and as always, the cults out there will turn the Muslim unity into a blood bath.



The Freedom Fighters almost had Bashar:

The Syrian Freedom Fighters were on the gates of Damascus and almost had that shia infidel, Bashar, and his thugs.  This is despite the ENTIRE WORLD conspiring against them, and depriving them from weapons supplies, and even criminalizing those who fought for them.  It was your Israeli-funded salafi cult of gangs and thugs that came to them from behind and invaded their liberated lands, and divided their ranks, and weakened them, and threw them on the defensive, and took away their years of hard work fruits.

I am telling all Muslims here:  You need to rid yourselves from those salafi and shia thugs!  They are not the solution for this Ummah, nor do they have the Truth.  They are no more than despicable thugs funded by the CIA and the Mossad to harm the True Muslims who pose the real threat to the zionist machine.  These thugs pose no threat to Israel.  They are Israel's toilet papers.  It uses them whenever it wants and discards them whenever its done with them.

ISIS is now executing Israel's dream of conquering the lands from the Nile river to the Euphrates river.  It's called the "Great Israel" lands, and they're using their toilet papers from the salafies to execute this plan very well by dividing up the entire Middle East and turning it into a burnt out chaotic lands ready to be taken over.  And of course, in order to do this, they must first wipe out all of the True Muslim Freedom Fighters who pose the real threat to the zionist machine.  This is where ISIS comes in to do the job for the zionists.  This is why they are no more than Israel's toilet papers.

Osama Abdallah


 

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