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Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« on: January 31, 2015, 03:55:03 PM »
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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2015, 05:13:26 PM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Idris,

WOW!!  This is truly a great piece from you akhi.  Here is what your blessed work got me to find, dear brother:

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/571.htm

emeth: firmness, faithfulness, truth
Original Word: ?????
Part of Speech: noun feminine; adverb
Transliteration: emeth
Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-meth)
Short Definition: truth

It is amazing that Prophet Muhammad's PROPHETIC NAME in the Glorious Quran is AHMED.  This is the name that Prophet Isa (Jesus) and others also before him prophesied about the Prophet of Arabia.  The reader can visit the following section for ample proofs, and for proof that AHMED was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:

www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

Yet, we have here:

1-  AHMETH
2-  AHMED

Very strikingly similar indeed.  This requires further digging my beloved in Islam.  Great job dear brother Idris on your post.  This is indeed a great one that opened the door for a lot of research to come, Insha'Allah.

May Allah Almighty bless you, akhi Idris.  Ameen.  Keep up the great work, akhi.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2015, 08:33:13 PM »
Salam brother Osama and brother Idris,

I told u previously brother Osama that I will not post anything until my exam ends. But I couldnt resist seeing the masterpiece from bro Idris. And the schedule also changed because of the beautiful(!) political situation here. However, please pray for me.

It is really amazing that even in John 15:26 the prophet is called Spirit of Truth! So I am damn sure that Ehmeth is Ahmed (pbuh). May Allah bless brother Idris.

Remember my post about the existence of the name 'Muhammad' in Songs of Solomon 5:16? It's just the same case brother. The translators translate the word 'Mahamadiym' as 'Lovely' and 'Ehmeth' or 'Ahmed' as 'Truth'. Both time they take the literal meanings of the names. And that's how they hide the crystl clear prophesies of our beloved Prophet (pbuh).

But if the conversation between Jesus and Pilate about prophet Ahmed (sm) really took place, then it means Jesus was really arrested. So when did Allah raised him up? I read in wikipedia that in the gospel of Peter, Jesus is said to have been taken up when he was on the cross. Read this from wikipedia:

"Christ's cry from the cross, in Matthew given as Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? which Matthew explains as meaning "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" is reported in Peter as "My power, my power, thou hast forsaken me"'. Immediately after, Peter states that "when he had said it he was taken up", suggesting that Jesus did not actually die. This, together with the claim that on the cross Jesus "remained silent, as though he felt no pain", has led many early Christians to accuse the text of docetism. The account in Peter tells that the supposed writer and other disciples hid because they were being sought on suspicion of plotting to set fire to the temple, and totally rejects any possibility of their disloyalty."

To read the whole thing, visit;
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Peter

The Quran says he wasn't crucified. Notice that it is told here that he felt no pain. Maybe he was put on the cross but wasn't actually crucified and was raised up. I ain't sure. Please make it clear brother.

 Brother Osama, please check my previous posts and send ur reply soon. I will InshaAllah check for ur reply.

May Allah be with us

Tahmeed
« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 04:17:10 AM by Tahmeed »

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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2015, 06:04:04 AM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Tahmeed,

May Allah Almighty bless you and help you get the best grades, akhi.  Ameen.  And thank you for the valuable additions, dear brother.  Indeed, there are many references that sound very strikingly similar to the name of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  And the amazing thing about them is that several of them refer to an actual Prophet.  We need to find out if the dialect of Hebrew back then was different than what it is today.  I am researching this.

As to your studies akhi, if this blog gets too distracting to you, then please let me know.  I can do a limited time block to where it would automatically free your name after a certain date.  So if you feel that the internet is being to distracting for you, then I can do a limited ban that would expire at a certain date of your choice.

Please let me know akhi if this becomes a necessity.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2015, 06:22:24 AM »
Salm brother Osama,

Thank you for ur reply. Your blog is just fine brother. I just check for posts in my free time. But this is my last post for this month. So no need to change anything. :)

May Allah bless us all,
Tahmeed

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« Last Edit: February 01, 2015, 08:29:59 AM by Idris »

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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2015, 10:15:30 AM »
Salam Aleykoum,

I've made a small research and unfortunately in Ancient Aramaic "Codex Khabouris" the word truth (????) used in John 18:37-38 simply means truth because you will see the same word appears in many other places in the NT.

source: http://dukhrana.com/lexicon/word.php?adr=2:22295&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%

http://dukhrana.com/peshitta/sedra_concordance.php?adr=2:22295&font=Estrangelo+Edessa&size=125%&source=ubs

So we can not identify this word which we talking about (Ah'meth) through this manuscripts unless we discover the original form of it in another source for example in the Qumran scrolls.

I'm not sure what these shortcuts means such as "Man" (male???) or "Syr" (Syriac???) below:

2 truth Syr, Man. --(a) ?? ???? : truthfully;
source: http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/getlex.php?coord=620410533&word=16

In regards to the previous word ie. before "truth", according to "The Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon" the original aramaic word (???) "manuw" that have been used here literally means "who" so there is no doubt that it refers to a person !!!

source: http://cal1.cn.huc.edu/getlex.php?coord=620400307&word=14
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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2015, 11:20:12 AM »
how ancient is codex cabouris, & the West says its paleographically dated to 11th century.
khabouris apologist however says the gospel preserved message from 1st and 2nd century.

Aramaic followers of Jesus used hebrew alphabets not syriac. From the link you post ????  in hebrew alphabet form is ????   
maybe you can search the glossary of Aramaic for other word for truth apart from ????   (srra)

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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2015, 05:25:37 PM »
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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2015, 10:38:41 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Great work dear, brother Idris.  I love your research!  Great work also dear brothers Tahmeed and Submit.  Keep up the great work, dear brothers.  May Allah Almighty greatly bless you for your researches.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 03:12:22 PM »
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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2015, 07:16:41 AM »


Remember my post about the existence of the name 'Muhammad' in Songs of Solomon 5:16? It's just the same case brother. The translators translate the word 'Mahamadiym' as 'Lovely' and 'Ehmeth' or 'Ahmed' as 'Truth'. Both time they take the literal meanings of the names. And that's how they hide the crystl clear prophesies of our beloved Prophet (pbuh).



Tahmeed


But Brother Tahmeed,I didnt find a book named 'Songs of Solomon' when I searched in www.biblegateway.com .If you meant 'Song of Songs 5:6' , it seems to be saying about something else.

Anyway,you have done a good job.May Allah Almighty bless you.

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Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2015, 02:26:26 PM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brother and thanks,

My NKJV, NRSV bibles say it is song of solomon. Song of songs is another name, read verse 1:1. Approves both names.

But bro, I needed to do the correction earlier. Thanks for reminding me. If y check the hebrew, u will see that song of solomon 5:16 has 'mahamaddiym' in it which is translated as LOVELY. Read the verse 5:10, the beloved is said to be chief among ten thousand. U know during the conquest of Mekkah, the Prophet had ten thousand men with him. From this, I and many other muslims thought it is referring to Muhammad SAW.

But I hadn't read the whole book of SOS before this. When I did, my conception was clear. It is not about Muhammad SAW, never! I have dishonored my beloved Prophet SAW by saying he was the person in the book. ASTAGFIRULLAH.

The book is a conversation between the beloved (Solomon), shulamite (his wife) and some other persons. Their r some real vulgur verses in the book said by the beloved, describing shulamite's body in a more vulgur way. They call this the Book of God? I call it written porn. This can be a secret song between husband-wife, but adding this in the bible? They will never learn.

The things the beloved said can't be words of our prophet. So verse 5:16 of the 'Porn of Porns' is not about the Prophet SAW.

And may Allah bless u too dear brother,
Your brother Tahmeed

 

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