Questions to those who believe the Scientific Miracles of the Quran

[muzi123]

1. in Arabic word has multiple meanings like alaqah has 3 meanings all 3 is correct that is fine but if u had a word that had 4 meanings and 3 of them made sense if u translated it why would u choose the 1 that fits the scientific fact because a critic could argue that same word has other meanings why not translate like that
 
2. Isn't it subjective debatable some can say the verse meaning something else
 
3. Hamza Tzortis wrote an article on it have u seen it ? http://www.hamzatzor...a-new-approach/ he doesnt use it anymore obviously who is Hamza like just because he said it doesnt mean its true but he used to use it so confidently now hes stopped
 
4. Almost all the scientific facts have been mentioned before the Quran maybe few havent lets give an e.g Quran says embryo looks like a leech but no 1 mentioned it explicitly a leech but used another different word which still resembles a leech u see the point .
 
 
Now  what do u think of this point say the miracle is the word which suited the 7th century is still suitable to our century 1400 yrs later ? so the Quran is not outdated its no human book which human could use perfect word choice and yet its applicable at all times
 
 
 
and other points il mention them later

[Sam663]

Simple, whether any scholar of the past have translated the word that can fit into today's description or not. Or was there any other word at that time that could have described it more accurately.

[Sam663]

[Sam663]

Plus none of the Hebrew speaking Bible scholars translated any of these verses as "Universe is expanding", because none of these verses literally mean that "Universe is actually expanding". That's why atheists don't take christians seriously.

As brother Osama said MOUSI'OONA literally means continuous expansion, and there is no other word to describe it. So did any single scholar of Tafsir translated MOUSI'OONA as expanding? Yes, many of them. Such as; Sheikh Tabrani and Fairuzabadi.

[Sam663]

Notwithstanding, Hamza is not a scholar. So, please, oh please, don't take him seriously!

[Sam663]

That's the miracle of the Quran, it is endless and whatever you understand the signs it, it still runs with harmony with the science.

Take the word Dahaha:
http://www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000023.pdf

Lane Lexicon says the word Dahaha means:

DAHA: spread, spread out, spread forth, EXPANDED, extended

Usage: God made the earth wide or ample; also said of an ostrich, he expanded or made wide with his foot or leg, the place where he was about to deposit his eggs, making cavities in the ground like those of bellies; said of a man, he spread, and made plain, even, or smooth; also, he threw or cast, and impelled, PROPELLED, or REMOVED FROM ITS PLACE, a stone with his hand;

DAHAHA: He COMPRESSED her

DAHA AL-BATN: The belly was or became large and hanging down; it became SWOLLEN or INFLATED, or big, and hung down, by reason of fatness or disease.

INDAHA: it (belly) became wide or DISTENDED.

The meanings in relation to earth in the qur'aan could be that it was made swollen, inflated, or distended, and also could be that the earth was propelled, removed from its place, like a stone thrown by the hand. So "daha" in relation to earth could be referring either to the shape of the earth (like that of a distended, swollen, inflated belly, hung down, or like that of the cavities in ground, shaped like bellies, dug by ostriches to lay their eggs, both of which imply it not being a perfect circle) or it could be referring to its elliptical orbit (like the trajectory of a stone propelled by throwing it by one's hand).

[Sam663]

But Dahaha doesn't mean spread out, because ALLAH(swt) in other place used the word Madadnah which is commonly used in the Arabic world to mean spread out:

 ? ? ?? ? (19)
 


YUSUFALI: And at the Earth, how it is spread out?

PICKTHAL: And the earth, how it is spread?

SHAKIR: And the earth, how it is made a vast expanse?.
[The Quran ; 88:20]



That's why it's a miracle as arabs know the language and they know that no arabic speaker can write something like it. In egypt they used the word Daha to make something into a ball that looks like an egg, i.e. it is not a perfect ball . As mentioned in Lexicon it also means the earth was propelled, removed from its place, like a stone thrown by the hand( referring to its elliptical orbit like the trajectory of a stone propelled by throwing it by one's hand).

Daha common use isto make anything in the shape of an imprfect circle. And both of these meanings of Dahaha perfectly fits our description of earth and there is no other word the could have described it so accurately.

[Sam663]

In short, if any scholar of the past have translated the word that can fit into today's description, or if there was no other word at that time that could have described today's description of something more accurately, then it's a miracle.

[arman114]

In Surah 39:5 ROUND earth is mentioned!!
"He  wraps  the  night  over  the  day  and  wraps the  day  over  the  night"

How can you wrap the day over night and night over day on flat earth?? Its only possible if the earth is NOT FLAT!! But still I have something more.....
Allah could have said "He make the day ENTER into night and NIGHT enter into day"
But no he did not used the word ENTER but he used WRAP which SUITS TO round earth!! And the best thing is that the original Arabic word used for wrap is "KWR" which means WRAPPING AROUND TURBAN or BALL SHAPED!!
You can verify the meaning of the word here http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/roots/Kaf-Waw-Ra.html

Allah used the same word in Surah 81:1 for.......
"When the Sun is WRAPPED up."

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And that's a unique word for wrap which is not commonly used in Arabic, so Allah used a unique word because he knew that earth is BALL 🌏!!!

That's better than DAHAHA which DO NOT mean egg shaped!