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As-Salamu aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

Dear brother Abdullah Almadi, I got an idea, you should watch this video and experience the perfect linguistic structure and harmony of the Quran:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ULa2JzPG0

The following video shows an incredible mathematical miracle that you will never find in the Bible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhxwyvoLMUA

Allah has promised that He will protect the Quran, and He will preserve it. If it would miss even one single letter, the whole of those mathematical calculations could not be performed! For me it is a powerfull evidence that the Quran didn't change through the centuries and is perfectly preserved.

Take care, and salam
Ahmed (Polnad, Warsaw)


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I remembered watching this documentary previously but had forgotten where its rebuttal was. After searching for some time, I found a better one:
http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2010/11/response-to-inside-koran-documentary-by.html

Also, read the following article by Joseph E. B. Lumbard (a Muslim Qur'an scholar) which was written after the discovery of the Birmingham manuscript:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-e-b-lumbard/new-light-on-the-history-_b_7864930.html

Regards,

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not because they calls them German scientists means that they are gods ,or can be experts as Arabs in Arabic or in Quran.   it's funny that they find a Syriac manuscript to be credible more than Arabic. it seems that Syriac who wrote it wanted to translate it to his people who have a Syriac bibles, and can read only Syriac. god said that we have made it Arabic Quran not Syriac Quran. and Arabic is more eloquent and figurative than Syriac.

they just wants any hope to refute Quran because they know that bible is corrupted very much.

 Quran has been kept in hearts, and minds of Muslims until now , prophets wives was memorizing it , khalifa ALi was memorizing it , umul momeneen Hafsa was memorizing it , Ibn Masoud was memorizing it and many more, so it kept first in hearts and minds until today before it's been on papers by agreements of all Muslims, there are no records that there is Muslims been killed/burned because they didn't want this copy of Quran as what happened and recorded in roman empire by killing burning heretics and who have other bibles. the reading was 7 different in some verses depends on Arabs different accent tongues then it's back in one reading by god power not by man , and Quran made Arabs one tongue in reading it . dots added later and also can't change anything because it's still kept in mind and heart so still same meaning, just made it easier for who wants to study it. then they put a basis for language to make it easier to be studied. everything came step by step by god power and order not by man order because all have experienced how is man order in bible. Quran explanation doesn't stop , there are always new scholars who have new convincing explanations. some scholar said there are hundreds of thousands of different explanations to the holy Quran.

people in these stages didn't have TV or any fascinations to distract them of memorizing Quran. so how about now ?
you can find a 7 years old boys memorizing the whole Quran , there is 3 a years old kid in Algeria can memorize the whole Quran google it. there were scholars from there until now taking care of memorizing Quran , so if the Quran was corrupted you would have seen many sects have it's different Quran. so Allah word is true "we surely have revealed the reminder and most surely will be it's Guardian." 

Narrated `Abdul `Aziz bin Rufai':

Shaddad bin Ma'qil and I entered upon Ibn `Abbas. Shaddad bin Ma'qil asked him, "Did the Prophet (?) leave anything (besides the Qur'an)?" He replied. "He did not leave anything except what is Between the two bindings (of the Qur'an)." Then we visited Muhammad bin Al-Hanafiyya and asked him (the same question). He replied, "The Prophet (?) did not leave except what is between the bindings (of the Qur'an).

Reference  : Sahih al-Bukhari 5019
In-book reference  : Book 66, Hadith 41
USC-MSA web (English) reference  : Vol. 6, Book 61, Hadith 537
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see all what those biblical people comes and laugh at us with some good verses in bible , love your enemy , love your neighbor as yourself.
where you got a fully civilized system in one verse of Quran. like this one.

2-177"Righteousness is not determined by facing East or West during prayer. Righteousness consists of the belief in God, the Day of Judgment, the angels, the Books of God, His Prophets; to give money for the love of God to relatives, orphans, the destitute, and those who are on a journey and in urgent need of money, beggars; to set free slaves and to be steadfast in prayer, to pay the religious tax (zakat) to fulfill one's promises, and to exercise patience in poverty, in distress, and in times of war. Such people who do these are truly righteous and pious."

is that a words of man 1400 ago in the desert ?

they got love your neighbor as yourself ? but they can never do it. because if you love him as yourself you must by the same car you have to him , and no one of them can do that. so when did that ever recorded that you can finds a man love his neighbor as himself ? surely can't work in our times.

see here how to love your neighbor , is that a word of man ?

(4:36)"worship Allah, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbors who are near, neighbors who are strangers, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For Allah loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-"

look how descending the priority. not love your neighbor and then , luke 14-26"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

C'mon if it is not from god , you would have seen lots of differences.

khdr
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fragments-of-worlds-oldest-koran-unlikely-to-pre-date-prophet-mohamed-says-expert-10481728.html

 Yeah. I also find it hilarious that these Christians are coming out and talking about the authority of the Quran, when there is evidence that suggests that half of the new testament is forged (Bart Ehrman) and the oldest copy of the Bible found is very different.

 This video proves that the Bible is corrupt:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY-fa-IjJoE

 The Bible has been changed many times. Kings sometimes changed the Bible secretly so people would obey them. There are hundreds of different versions of the Bible and Christian scholars have had troubles choosing the best one, but Muslims only read one quran (of course there are English translations, but they are only few and we don't read them only the Arabic).  I was once scrolling down on a YT comment section and I found 2 Christians having a conversation. The first Christian asked the other one about what kind of bible he reads. He said the NIV and then the first Christian told him, "don't read that version because this is Not the true Bible . Only KJV is!". Hilarious! So only 1 Bible out of the hundreds of different versions of the Bible is the TRUE one.

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 Look at how prophet Muhammad predicted the coming of the Khawarij and he specifically said that they come from Iraq.


Narrated Yusair bin `Amr:
I asked Sahl bin Hunaif, "Did you hear the Prophet (?) saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said, "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq. "There will appear in it (i.e, Iraq) some people who will recite the Qur'an but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body.' "
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Reference    : Sahih al-Bukhari 6934
In-book reference    : Book 88, Hadith 16
USC-MSA web (English) reference    : Vol. 9, Book 84, Hadith 68
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 Now look at ISIS. They came from Iraq.


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