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1 first of all u claimed that muslim were "terrorists" which is ttrue nonsense
2. What Led to the Battle of Hunayn?

Before going into the details surrounding the women captives and what happened to them. Let us revisit some important details, why the battle of Hunayn occurred.

The battle of Hunayn took place as a result of the league tribes who formed alliances to attack the Muslim community. The tribes of Hawazin and Thaqif (Thakefites) were using Awtas area for the purposes of attacks against the Muslims. Awtas was used as a place for military purposes.

Ibn Sa’d (784 – 845 AD) reports to us:

“THE GHAZWAH OF THE APOSTLE OF ALLAH AGAINST HUNAYN, AND THE SAME WAS THE GHAZWAH OF HAWAZIN
… They (narrators) said: When the Apostle of Allah conquered Makkah, the notables of the Hawazin and the Thaqif moved from one side to the other. They assembled and rose in rebellion. Malik Ibn Awf al-Nasri had brought them together and he was then thirty years old. He ordered them and they brought with them their wealth, their WOMEN FOLK and their children. They MOBILIZED AT AWTAS AND THE SUPPORTERS WERE COMING TO THEM. THEY AGREED ON MARCHING AGAINST THE APOSTLE OF ALLAH.” [2]

This is also reported in Al-Tabari (838 – 923 AD):

“The Prophet had been staying in Mecca during the year of its conquest for only a forth-night when [he received the news that the clans of [Hawazin and Thaqif [were marching against Mecca and] had already encamped at Hunayn intending to fight him. Hunayn is a valley next to Dhu al-Majaz. Both the aforementioned tribes had assembled before [their match] after hearing about the Messenger of God’s departure from Medina, thinking that he was intending [to invade] them. When he learned that he had occupied Mecca, Hawazin marched against him [to Mecca] with their women, children, and possessions. Their leader was Mailk b. Awf from the Banu Nasr. [The clans of] thaqif joined forces with them and encamped at Hunayn intending to fight the Prophet. When the Prophet, still in Mecca, was informed about them he decided to march against them. He met them at Hunayn, and God, the Great and Mighty, inflicted defeat on them. God has mentioned this battle in the Qur’an. Since they HAD MARCHED WITH THEIR WOMEN, children, and flocks, God granted them as booty to His Messenger, who divided the spoils among those Quraysh who had [recently] embraced Islam. … When Malik [b. Awf] DECIDED TO MARCH AGAINST THE MESSENGER OF GOD, he took with his men their possessions, wives, and children. After making camp at AWTAS, the men gathered around him. Among them was Durayd b. al-Simmah, who was carried in a Howdah [Shijar]. As soon as he had encamped he inquired what valley they were in. When he was told that it was Awtas, he said: ‘What a wonderful place for CAVALRY! Neither a rugged hill, nor a soft lowland full of dust. …” [3]

We read that the war was started as a result of these tribes forming to attack the Muslim community. Hence, the only option left for the Muslims was to defend themselves.

Another crucial and important detail in these two reports show that enemies brought their women to aid the men in war. If they were innocent, they would not have come along with their husbands, knowing fully well that they were preparing to attack the Muslim community. Hence, these women were not innocent, their capture was legal.

Even today, in the most democratic countries in the western World, women who aid enemy combatants would be jailed.
2 the big misconception that arises in the mind that the sahaba immediately wantedf to have sex with the captives as soon as they were taken as captives
now often tend to misunderstand those words "reluctant to intercorse" IN THE TEXT OF THE HADITHS
reluctant to intercourse dosen't really means they were ready to jump on women as soon as thhey were taken as captives what they thought that these women even as slaves would be haram but Allah revealed that thses women will be halal
sex before distribution of captives as slaves is considered adultery
In fact anyone were to cohabit with a slave-women before the decision of the leader about them and before their due distribution, he was considered an adulterer and was liable to be punished. Consider the following report;

Khalid sent Dhirar bin al-Azwar in a party and they attacked an area of the tribe of Bani Asad. They captured a pretty woman, Dhirar liked her hence he asked his companions to grant her to him and they did so. He then had sexual intercourse with her, when he completed his mission he felt guilty, and went to Khalid and told him about what he had done. Khalid said: 'I permit her for you and make it lawful to you.' He said: 'No not until you write to Umar (about this)'. (Khalid informed ‘Umar about this) and ‘Umar wrote back that he (i.e. Dhirar) should be stoned (to death). By the time ‘Umar's message reached, Dhirar had died. Khalid said: 'Allah did not want to disgrace Dhirar.’ (Al-Bayhaqi’s Sunan al-Kubra, Dar al-Kotob al-Ilmiyya, Beirut, 2003 vol.9 p.177 Hadith 18222)
3 .rules(from hanafi fiqh)
1 captivity dosen't annuls the marriage at all first  off all all the captives are taken to state leader and he decides either to free them with or without ransom or distribute them as slaves
one important point only those prisoners of war whom no one came to ransom and who were neither exchanged are taken as slaves if someone comes to ransome them we have to return them and that exactly what happened
Sahih al-Bukhari:

“Narrated Marwan and Al-Miswar bin Makhrama: When the delegates of the tribe of Hawazin came to the Prophet and they requested him to return their properties and captives. The Prophet stood up and said to them, “I have other people with me in this matter (as you see) and the most beloved statement to me is the true one; you may choose either the properties or the prisoners as I have DELAYED THEIR DISTRIBUTION.” The Prophet had waited for them for more than ten days since his arrival from Ta’if. So, when it became evident to them that the Prophet was not going to return them except one of the two, they said, “WE CHOOSE OUR PRISONERS.” The Prophet got up amongst the people and glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and said, “Then after, these brethren of yours have come to us with repentance, and I SEE IT LOGICAL TO RETURN THEM THE CAPTIVES. So, whoever amongst you likes to do that as a favor, then he can do it, and whoever of you likes to stick to his share till we recompense him from the very first war booty which Allah will give us, then he can do so (i.e. give up the present captives).” THE PEOPLE UNANIMOUSLY SAID, “WE DO THAT (RETURN THE CAPTIVES) WILLINGLY.” The Prophet said, “We do not know which of you has agreed to it and which have not, so go back and let your leaders forward us your decision.” So, all the people then went back and discussed the matter with their leaders who returned and informed the Prophet that all the people had willingly given their consent to return the captives. This is what has reached us about the captives of Hawazin. Narrated Anas that `Abbas said to the Prophet, “I paid for my ransom and `Aqil’s ransom.” (Sahih al-Bukhari volume 3, Book 46, Hadith 716)
Sahih al-Bukhari:

“Narrated Marwan bin Al-Hakam and Al-Miswar bin Makhrama: When the delegates of the tribe of Hawazin came to the Prophet they requested him to return their property and their captives. He said to them, “This concerns also other people along with me as you see, and the best statement to me is the true one, so you may choose one of two alternatives; either THE CAPTIVES OR THE PROPERTY AND (I HAVE NOT DISTRIBUTED THE BOOTY FOR) I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU.” When the Prophet had returned from Ta’if, he waited for them for more than ten nights. When they came to know that the Prophet would not return except one of the two, they chose their captives. The Prophet then stood up amongst the Muslims, Glorified and Praised Allah as He deserved, and then said, “Then after: These brothers of yours have come to you with repentance and I see it proper to return their captives, so whoever amongst you likes to do that as a favor, then he can do it, and whoever of you wants to stick to his share till we pay him from the very first Fai (i.e. war booty) which Allah will give us, then he can do so.” The people said, “We return (the captives) to them willingly as a favor, O Allah’s Messenger!” The Prophet said, “I do not know who of you has given his consent and who has not; so go back and your leaders may present your decision to me.” The people went away, and their leaders discussed the matter with them, and then came to the Prophet TO TELL HIM THAT ALL OF THEM HAD GIVEN THEIR CONSENT (TO RETURN THE CAPTIVES) WILLINGLY. (Az-Zuhn, the sub-narrator said, “This is what we know about the captives, of Hawazin.”) (Sahih al-Bukhari volume 3, Book 47, Hadith 778)
Sunan Abi Dawud:

“Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: The tradition mentioned above (No. 2468) has also been transmitted by Abdullah ibn Budayl through a different chain of narrators in a similar way. This version adds: While he (Umar) was observing i’tikaf (in the sacred mosque), the people uttered (loudly): “Allah is most great.” He said: What is this, Abdullah? He said: THESE ARE THE CAPTIVES OF THE HAWAZIN WHOM THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH HAS SET FREE. He said: This slave-girl too? He sent her along with them.” (Sunan Abi Dawud Book 13, Hadith 2469, Sahih Albani)
Sunan Abi Dawud:

“Marwan and Al Miswar bin Makhramah told that when the deputation of the Hawazin came to the Muslims and asked the Apostle of Allaah to return to them their property, the Apostle of Allaah said to them “with me are those whom you see”. The speech dearest to me is the one which is true, so choose (one of the two) either the captives or the property. They said “WE CHOOSE OUR CAPTIVES. The Apostle of Allaah stood up, extolled Allaah and then said “To proceed, your brethren have come repentant I have considered THAT I SHOULD RETURN THEIR CAPTIVES TO THEM, so let those of you who are willing to release the captives act accordingly, but those who wish to hold on to what they have till we give them some of the first booty Allaah gives us may do so. The people said “We are willing for that (to release their captives), Apostle of Allaah. The Apostle of Allaah said “We cannot distinguish between those of you who have granted that and those who have not, so return till your headmen may tell us about your affair. The people then returned and their headmen spoke to them, then they informed that they were agreeable and had given their permission. (Sunan Abi Dawud Book 14, Hadith 2687, Sahih Albani)
IF HUSBAND AND WIFE CAPTURED ARE CAPTURED TOGETHER MARRIAGE SHALL REMAIN INTACT
FOR PROOF PLEASE SEE JAMI TIRMIDHI BOOK OF MILITARY EXPIDITIONS HADITH 1566 PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) PROHIBITED SEPERATING RELATIVES
what about ibn katheer
ibn katheer english translation
"consequently we had sexual relations with them" is a mistranslation real words are
"and the real translation arabic text of musnad ahmed and ibn katheer contains the word "then we considered their bodies hala for us"
(see ibn katheer life of prophet translation by prof lee gassick vol 3 pg 461)



batlle of banu al mustalliq
please understand this one acoording to their TIME
MISCONCEPTION DOES ISLAM PERMITS MUSLIM MEN TO RAPE PRISONERS OF WAR
 
 
 
FROM SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 3, #432:
            Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?"  The prophet said, "Do you really do that?  It is better for you not to do it.  No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence."
 
(also refer to Bukhari Vol. 3, #718)
 
 
FROM SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 9, #506:
            Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relations with them without impregnating them.  So they asked the prophet about coitus interruptus.  The prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection".
            Qaza'a said, "I heard Abu Said saying that the prophet said, "No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it.""
 
(also ref. Bukhari 5:459).
 FROM THE HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, #2167:
            Muhaririz said:  "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri.  I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse), Abu Said said:  We went out with the Apostle of Allah on the expedition to Banu al-Mustaliq, and took some Arab women captive, and we desired the women, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, and we wanted ransom; so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave-women).  But we asked ourselves:  "Can we draw the penis when the apostle of Allah is among us before asking him about it?"  So we asked him about it.  He said, "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.""
 NOW THESE AUTHENTIC HADITHS ARE USED BY MANY CHRISTIAN APOLOGISTS SUCH AS SAM SHEMDU DAVID WATS AND SILLY SILLAS TO PROVE THAT ISLAM CONDONES RAPE OF WAR captives
REALLY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. I HAVE GOT REALLY IMP AND DETALILED FACTS ON THIS HADITHS
AS FOLLOWS
1) FIRST OF ALL WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE TIME LINE OF THIS HADITH THIS HADITH IS IN REGARDS TO THE BATTLE OF BANU AL MUSTALLIQ WHICH IS ONE OF THE EARLIEST BATTLE OF ISLAM
2)IN THIS PERIOD MOST OF THE LAWS REGARDING SLAVE WOMEN AND PHYSICAL INTIMACY WITH THEM SUCH AS IDDAH LAW AND WAITING FOR PREGNANT WOMEN TILL SHE GIVES BIRTH WAS NOT REVEALED  TO PROPHET MUHMMAD(SAW)
3)WHAT EVER LAW PROPHET MUHMMAD (SAW) RECIEVED WAS A REVEALATION TO HIM FROM ALLAH
4)SO AT THIS TIME MUTTAH(TEMPORARY MARRIAGES WERE NOT FORBIDDEN BY PROPHET (SAW)
5) AND THIS TEMPORARY MARRIAGES WERE ONLY FOR PURPOSE OF SPENDING SEXUAL PLEASURE. SO AUTOMATICALLY ENGAGING IN TEMPORARY SEXUAL WITH SLAVE (CAPTIVE) WAS ALSO NOT PROHIBITED.
5) WHEN PROPHET MUHMMAD (SAW) DIDN'T KNEW ALCOHOL IS BANNED HE NEVER FORBID THEM FROM DRINKING SIMILLARLY HE DIDN'T PROHIBIT THEM FROM ENGAGING IN TEMPORARY SEX.
6) WERE THE SAHABA ABOUT TO RAPE WOMEN ABSOLUTELY NO
(HERE PEOPLE MAY FIND THIS POINT REALLY ODD BUT LET ME TELL U AS I SAID MOST OF THE LAWS REGARDING PHYSICAL INTIMACY WITH CAPTIVE SLAVE WOMAN WAS NOT REVEALED SO IT WAS QUITE NATURAL FOR SAHABA TO WANT TO HAVE SEX DUE TO LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON THEIRS SITE AS IT WAS NOT REVEALED AND RELY ON THEIR JAHILI SYSTEM)
 BECAUSE THE CAPTIVES WERE LEGALLY DISTRIBUTED BY PROPHET.

CONTINUE...
NOW THE REAL STORY COMES NO ONE HAS TO WORRY REGARDING THE WOMEN AGREEING FOR SEX OR NOT
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED AT THE BATTLE OF BANU MUSTALLIQ IS THIS
!) IF SOMEONE IS TO READ THE CONTEXT OF THE HADITH THEY WILL REALIZE THAT THE SAHABA INTENDED TO ENGAGE IN SEX TEMPORARILY(OR FOR THE SAKE OF AGRGUEMENT OF ISLAMOPHOBE MIND IT THEIR SAKE NOT MINE CONSIDER RAPE) THEY ACTUALLY NEVER DID AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THIS
Who was Banu Al-Mustaliq? When Did the Battle Take Place? What Were the Causes Behind It?

 
1-    Banu Al-Mustaliq were a sub-tribe of Khuzaa‘ah and Al-Mustaliq was their forefather. He was Juthaymah bin Sa‘d bin ‘Amr bin Rabee‘ah bin Haarithah bin ‘Amr bin ‘Aamir bin Maa’is-Samaa’.
 
2-     The Date of the Battle
 
Scholars differ regarding the date of the Battle. Their views may be summed up as follows: Ibn Is’haaq, Khaleefah bin Khayyaat and Ibn Jareer At-Tabari  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  them said that it took place during the month of Sha‘baan in the 6th year AH. Others, such as Al-Mas‘oodi  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  him said that it took place during the month of Sha‘baan in the 4th year AH. A third group of the scholars are of the view that it took place during the month of Sha‘baan in the 5th year A.H. Of the earlier scholars who adopted the third view are: Moosa bin ‘Uqbah, Ibn Sa‘d, Ibn Qutaybah, Al-Balaathuri, Ath-Thahabi, Ibn Al-Qayyim, Ibn Hajar Al-‘Asqalaani and Ibn Katheer  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  them. Of the modern scholars who adopted this view are: Al-Khudhari Bik and Al-Ghazaali  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  them and Al-Booti, may Allah preserve him.
 
Sa‘d bin Mu‘aath, may Allah be pleased with him, died following the Battle of Banu Quraythah, which took place during the month of Thul-Qa‘dah in the 5th year A.H., according to the most preponderant view. This means that the Battle of Banu Al-Mustaliq took place before it.
 
3-    The reasons behind the Ghazwah of Banu Al-Mustaliq
 
The following are the most important reasons behind this Battle
 
A- The tribe of Banu Al-Mustaliq supported Quraysh and joined it during the Battle of Uhud against the Muslims. It was among the block of Ahaabeesh tribes who participated in the battle supporting Quraysh.
 
B-   The tribe of Banu Al-Mustaliq governed the main road leading to Makkah. It was a strong barrier that prevented the Muslims from reaching Makkah.
 
C-   News came to the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) that Banu Al-Mustaliq were mobilizing an army to fight him under the leadership of Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar. Having heard about that, the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) set out and met them in one of their watering areas called Al-Muraysee‘ in the direction from Qadeed to the sea coast. The Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) made them taste a bitter defeat there.
 
4-    Events of the Battle of Banu Al-Mustaliq
 
Having learnt about the notorious mobilization of Banu Al-Mustaliq, the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) dispatched Buraydhah bin Al-Husayb Al-Aslami, may Allah be pleased with him, to verify the reports, and he told Banu Al-Mustaliq that he wanted to support them. He stayed with them until he verified their intention, then returned and told the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) and informed him about that.
 
On a Monday two nights of the month of Sha‘baan, in the 5th year AH., the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) left Madeenah along with 700 fighters and thirty horses and moved towards Banu Al-Mustaliq. Banu Al-Mustaliq had been informed about Islam and invited to embrace it. They had also joined the polytheists in the Battle of Uhud. They were mobilizing allies to fight the Muslims. The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) attacked them while they were heedless and their cattle were watering. He killed their fighters and captured their children. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
 
The Marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, May Allah Be Pleased with Her
 
The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives and she was a blessing for her people. Let us know about her story from ‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with her. It was narrated that she said, “When the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq, Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith belonged to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas or one of his cousins. She held a manumission contract with him. She was a beautiful and attractive woman. Anyone who saw her admired her. She came to the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) in order to help her in paying her manumission.”
 
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, continued
 
By Allah, as soon as I saw her at the door of my room, I hated her. I knew that the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) would admire her. She entered to see the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) and said “O Messenger of Allah, I am Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, the chief of his people. I have been afflicted with an adversity that you know [i.e. that she had become a slave woman after she was a free woman and the first lady of her people]. I belong to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas, or a cousin of his, and I hold a manumission contract with him. Here I am seeking your help for the manumission.” The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) said: “Would you want what is better than this?” She said, “What is that, O Messenger of Allah?” He replied: “I shall pay your manumission and marry you.” She agreed, and then the news spread among people.
 
Thereupon, the Muslims released all Banu Al-Mustaliq’s captives as they had become relatives through the marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ).

‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “The marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, was the cause of the setting free of one hundred families of the Banu Al-Mustaliq. I do not know of a woman who was greater in blessing to her people than she was. Following the incident, Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, Juwayriyah’s father, came to Madeenah with the ransom of his daughter. The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) invited him to embrace Islam, and he did.”
 
The Battle of Al-Muraysee‘ is considered one of the unique and blessed Battles in Islam. Following that Battle, a whole tribe embraced Islam. The reason behind their conversion to Islam was that the Companions, may Allah be pleased with him, freed and returned the captives that were their shares of the booties. They hated to enslave the relatives of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ). Due to that communal emancipation and unique generosity, the whole tribe embraced Islam.
 
The far reaching cause of this historical event was the love that the Companions, may Allah be pleased with them, had for the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) honoring him and exalting his great personality. As such, love of the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) gives these fine fruits and produces such unique incidents in history.
 
There were far reaching aims behind the marriage of the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, and these aims were achieved when her people embraced Islam. The conversion of her people to Islam was one of the goals behind that marriage. In this way the number of Muslims increased, and Islam became more exalted; thus the hopes behind that marriage were achieved. Allah The Exalted facilitated the marriage, blessed it and realized the goal behind it, as Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, as well as her father embraced Islam, and then the whole tribe embraced Islam as well. This marriage resulted in blessing and power for Muslims as well as the material and moral support altogether for Islam and the Muslims.
THIS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT ALL THE CAPTIVES WERE REALEASED NONE OF THE WOMEN WERE INTIMATED AND SOLD OR RANSOMED U SAY AND ALL OF THEM EMBRACEED ISLAM
WHAT FOOLS THEY WERE NO accepted islam after battle(according to islamophobes)
THE FOOLS SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT WHAT RUBBISH HELL THEY ARE DOING
the promise of allah came true
70. “O Prophet! Say to the captives in your hands: ‘If Allah knows any good in your hearts, He will give you better than what has been taken away from you, and He will forgive you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”
later on Allah kept on revealing laws regarding treatment of captives and finally revealed the law of iddah for captive
apart from this read this hadith
MOST OF THE LAWS SPECIALLY IDDAH LAW WAS NOT REVEALED TO PROPHET SO IT WAS QUITE NATURAL FOR THEM TO WANT IN THAT WAY
BUT THE GENEROSITY AND HUMANNESS OF SAHABA CAN BE EASILY WITNESSED IN THE HADITH FOLLOWED WERE THEY RELEASED ALL CAPTIVES.
THEY WERE NOT RAPISTS NEITHER SEX HUNGRY
WELL I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FAMILIES WERE MADE CAPTIVES
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS BEST!!!
CONCLUSIONS:
REASONS I COMPARED THIS SCENERIO WITH MUTAH MARRIAGE
1)THIS WAS JUST A HIGHLY EXCEPTIONAL CASE NO OTHER HADITH EVEN TALKS SELLING OF SLAVE WOMEN THAT TOO AFTER HAVING SEX WITH THEM
2)ISLAM ALLOWS SEX WITH SLAVE GIRL BUT DOSEN'T ALLOWS "USING" THE SLAVE GIRL FOR PHYSICAL PELEASURE.
THIS EXCEPTIONAL CASE RATHER SEEMS CONTRADICTORY THATS WHY I COMPARED WITH MUTAH MARRIAGE.
3) http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/09/no-rape-slave-women-islam.html
WILL CLARIFY THE DOUBTS
4)(24:32) Marry those of you that are single, (whether men or women),50 and those of your male and female slaves that are righteous.51,52 If they are poor, Allah will enrich them out of His Bounty.53 Allah is Immensely Resourceful, All-Knowing.
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(24:33) Let those who cannot afford to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His Bounty.54 And write out a deed of manumission for such of your slaves that desire their freedom55 in lieu of payment56 - if you see any good in them57 - and give them out of the wealth that Allah has given you.58 And do not compel your slave-girls to prostitution for the sake of the benefits of worldly life the while they desire to remain chaste.59 And if anyone compels them to prostitution, Allah will be Most Pardoning, Much Merciful (to them) after their subjection to such compulsion.
HERE ALLAH MADE THE DOORS OF FREEDOM OPEN FOR ALL SLAVES AND SLVE GIRLS THAT THEY CAN BE MARRIED AMONG THEMSELVES AND AND WORK THEIR WAY TO ATTAIN FREEDOM.
5)ONE OF THE MOST IMP POINT THAT IDDAH LAW IS HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT IN THIS RESPECT AS IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY AVOID THESE SITUATIONS
6)MUTAH MARRIAGE WAS PROHIBITED BECAUSE IT IS CONSIDERED AS A FORM OF ADULTERY
SIMILARLY USING SLAVE WOMEN ON TEMPORARY BASIS WOULD AGAIN BE AUTOMATICALLY PROHIBITED AND AFTER REVEALATION OF ABOVE QURANIC AYAHS IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT ISLAM PROHIBITS PROSTITUTING AND USING THE SLAVE WOMEN OF PHYSICAL PLEASURE AND WORDLY GAINS
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS BEST!!!
selling of slaves
regarding selling of slaves it is haraam to sell slaves to those who will for sure mistreat and misbehave with slaves
is rape of slaves allowed still a question?
in the initial period of islam one may say that it might have happened that(although there is no proof whatsover ) that slave girls might be compelled to sex with masters but as islamic law progressed PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) EVEN PROHIBITED SLAPPING OF SLAVE GIRLS
The Quran and hadith maintain and order Muslims to be kind and to feed the captives. Not harm them.

“And serve God and do not associate anything with Him and BE GOOD to the parents and to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the neighbour of (your) kin and neighbour who is not of kin, and the companion in a journey and the wayfarer and THOSE WHOM YOUR RIGHT HANDS POSSESS; surely God does not love him who is proud, boastful” – Quran 4:36

The Prophet Muhammed (p) prohibited slapping captives and ordered those who do such to set them free:

Hilal b. Yasaf reported that a person got angry and slapped his slave-girl. Thereupon Suwaid b. Muqarrin said to him: You could find no other part (to slap) but the prominent part of her face. See I was one of the seven sons of Muqarrin, and we had but only one slave-girl. The youngest of us slapped her, and ALLAH’S MESSENGER COMMANDED US TO SET HER FREE. (Sahih Muslim Book 15, Hadith 4082)

Narrated Suwaid bin Muqarrin Al-Muzani: “We were seven brothers without a servant except one, and ONE OF US SLAPPED her, so THE PROPHET ORDERED US TO FREE HER.” (Jami` at-Tirmidhi volume 3, Book 18, Hadith 1542)

If a mere slap was prohibited and the captive was set free, then by default rape which is a much bigger crime is Haram (forbidden) in Islam. It is unthinkable for the Prophet (p) to allow such a heinous crime when he prohibited slapping a captive.
LET US SEE THE CONDUCT OF A NOBLE COMPANION
“…we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) met me in the street and said: ‘Give me that girl, O Salama!’ I said: ‘Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her.’ The next day, the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) again met me in the street, he said: ‘O Salama, give me that girl, May God bless your father.’ I said: ‘She is for you. Messenger of Allah! By Allah! I have not yet disrobed her.’ The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) sent her to the people of Makkah, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Makkah.” (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 3299)

Now one can observe that Salama (RA) said that he had not disrobed her when they reached Medina and again when the Holy Prophet (PBUH) met him in the street he told that he had not disrobed her. And even the next day, after the night having passed, when he was again asked for the girl, he testified that he had yet not disrobed her though she fascinated him.

This is enough proof that Salama didn’t forcefully lay with her as it was against the teachings of Islam. Islam does not allow a man to forcefully have sexual intercourse with his slave woman, otherwise no could stop Salama from sleeping with a slave girl who fascinated him.
NOW HOW MANY OF OUR SAHABAS OUR TABIEEN FOLLOWERS OF TABIEEN AND SALAFAY SALIHEEN TOOK THIS AS AN EVIDENCE TO RAPE UR OWN SLAVE IN ISLAM DIDN'T THEYKNEW ABOUT THESE HADITHS
ON CONTRARY HERE WE HAVE FAMOUS SECOND CENTURY SCHOLAR IMAM SHAFI SPEAKING ON THIS MATTER
Moreover, the founder of the Shafi'i madhabs also confirmed that stance:
If a man acquires by force a slave-girl, then has sexual intercourse with her after he acquires her by force, and if he is not excused by ignorance, then the slave-girl will be taken from him, he is required to pay the fine, and he will receive the punishment for illegal sexual intercourse.
— Al-Shafi'i, Kitabul Umm, Vol.3, p.253.
NOW DO THIS ANTI ISLAMICSTS UNDERSTAND ISLAM BETTER THAN IMAM SHAFI
Malik related to me from Nafi that a slave was in charge of the slaves in the khumus and he forced a slave-girl among those slaves against her will and had intercourse with her. Umar ibn al-Khattab had him flogged and banished him, and he did not flog the slave-girl because the slave had forced her.
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:85:81,[41]Al-Muwatta, 41 3.15
ONE OF THE MOST IMP POINT
5. Relations with pagan women were prohibited

A further evidence that no sexual relations occurred is the fact that scholars commenting on the hadith in regards to Awtas incident, they say that sexual relation with such women was prohibited. The evidence comes from the Quran. Where men are prohibited from marrying polytheistic women and by default they were forbidden to cohabit with them if they were captives. See further discussion on ‘rape’ claim in reference section [15].

13th-century scholar Abu Zakaria Yahya Ibn Sharaf al-Nawawi (1233 – 1277) comments on the Awtas battle, specifically on the captive women mentioned in Hadith:

“Know that it is the way of Ash-Shafi’e and the scholars who agreed with him that it is UNLAWFUL to have intercourse with the CAPTIVE WOMEN AMONG THE IDOLATERS and other unbelievers who are without a divine scripture UNLESS THEY FIRST EMBRACE ISLAM. They are forbidden to approach as long as they are following their own religion and these captive girls were among the Arab polytheists who worshipped idols. This tradition and others like it imply that the women embraced Islam and this is how they must be interpreted. Allah knows best. (Abu Zakariya al-Nawawi, Sharh Sahih Muslim, 1456)

Another great and respected scholar of Islam from the 13th century, Imam Abu Abdullah al-Qurtubi (1214 – 1273) says similar in regards to polytheistic captive women. That Muslims are prohibited to have relations with:

“In classical Arabic, ‘nikah’ refers to both the marriage contract and sexual intercourse. Since Allah, The Exalted, uses the word ‘nikaah’ in the verse (that means): {And do not make nikaah with polytheistic women until they believe}, it is deemed unlawful for a Muslim man to marry a non-Muslim (polytheistic) woman or to have intercourse with her by virtue of ownership.” [16]

Al-‘Ayni (d. 855 A.H.) writes:

“The imams with ruling have agreed that it is not permissible to have intercourse with pagan (captive-women),” [17]

 

Fatawa Alamgiri (17th Century Fatwa):

“A Muslim is NOT to have carnal intercourse with an idolatress or a Magian by right of property (as a master, he is prohibited from having sexual relations with polytheistic women)…” (Fatawa Alamgiri, volume 1, page 398 – 399) [18]

As we have read from these classical scholars, the polytheistic captives captured in Awtas were prohibited for the Muslims to have relations with. Although their care had to be met, by clothing and feeding them, intimacy with them was haram (forbidden).

Sexual intimacy was only deemed permissible with these women if they voluntarily converted to Islam. Forced conversion was Haram (forbidden), as the Quran and scholar of Islam, Imam Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya (1292 – 1350 AD) states:

“When God sent His Apostle (p), most of the followers of these religions responded to him and to his successsors, voluntarily and willingly. NOBODY WAS COMPELLED TO DO SO. The Apostle fought only those who fought and waged war against him. He did not fight those who made peace with him, neither did he fight those who were under the pledge of truce. He was obeying the bidding of God Most Sublime were he said:

‘Let there be no compulsion in Religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects Evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks, and God heareth and knowth all things ‘ (al-Baqarah: 256).

The Apostle did not compel anyone to adopt Islam. The above quoted verse from the Qur’an negates compulsion in the sense of prohibition that is: do not compel a soul to embrace the Religion. The verse (Sura) was revealed to admonish some of the men among the companions whose children embraced Judaism and Christianity before the advent of Islam, and where with the advent of Islam, their fathers embraced the religion of Muhammad and attempted to compel their children to follow their lead. God Most Exalted prohibited the fathers from resorting to compulsion to inspire their children to embrace Islam out of their choice. … To him who ponders over the biography of the Prophet (p) it becomes clear that he did not compel anyone to embrace his religion, and that he only fought those who fought him. He did not fight those who made truce with him as long as they kept and honoured the truce. He never broke a promise, for God Most High bid him to fulfil his promises to them as long as they kept theirs.
WHAT ISLAMOPHOBES SAY ABOUT THIS ONE
Thumaamah ibn Athaal – the leader of Bani Haneefah – was brought (to Madeenah) as a prisoner and tied to one of the pillars of the mosque. The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to him and said, “What do you think, O Thumaamah?” He said, “What I think, O Muhammad, is good. If you kill me, you will kill one with blood on his hands – i.e., I will deserve to be killed because I have killed Muslims – and if you release me you will release one who will be grateful. If you want money, then ask, and I will give you whatever you want.” The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) left him for three days, and each day he would come and ask him similar questions, and Thumaamah would give similar answers. After the third day, he commanded that he should be released. Thumaamah went to a stand of date-palms near the mosque where he bathed (did ghusl), then he came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “I bear witness that there is no god except Allaah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the slave of Allaah and His Messenger.” Then he said: “O Messenger of Allaah, by Allaah there was no one on earth whose face was more hateful to me than yours, but now your face is the most beloved of all faces to me.  By Allaah, there was no religion that was more hateful to me than your religion, but now your religion has become the most beloved of all religions to me. By Allaah, there was no land more hateful to me than your land, but now your land has become the most beloved to me. Your cavalry captured me when I was on my way to perform ‘Umrah, so what do you think I should do?”

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) congratulated him, and told him to go for ‘Umrah. When he came to Makkah, someone asked him, “Have you changed your religion?” He said, “No, but I have submitted with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and by Allaah you will not get a grain of wheat from al-Yamaamah unless the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gives permission.”(TAKEN FROM THE SEALED NECTAR)

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AS FAR AS TEMPORARY SEX WITH SLAVE WOMAN IS CONCERNED IT IS MY OWN VIEW AFTER HAVING STUDYING THE HADITHS BUT THERE IS NO AS SUCH HADITH TO SUPOORT MY VIEW BUT DUE TO ABSENCE OF ANY OPPOSITION AND EVIDENCE OF ONE SCHOLAR
TAKEN FROM TAHFEEM UL QURAN
If a military commander permitted his soldiers to temporarily use the female captives as objects of sexual desire and distributed them among the soldiers for that purpose, such an act would be considered unlawful by Islamic Law. Such an act is not essentially different from fornication or adultery. For details see my book Tafhimat, vol. 2, pp. 366-84, and Rasai'il wa Masa'il, 6th edition, Lahore, 1976, vol. 3, pp. 102-4.
 MY VIEW IS STRONGLY SUPPORTED U KNOW IN SHARII SENSE MOREOVER  THIS WAS NOT A GENERAL PRACTICE EVIDENCE MAK THOSE WORDS "AS WE WERE SUFFERING FROM THE ABSENCE OF OUR WIVES" MEANS THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT DOING THIS IF THERE WIVES WERE PRESENT.
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS BEST
YES NOW REFUTING ALI SINA
ALI SINA IN HIS WIKI ISLAM USES 2 BASELESS NOT EVEN REPORTS
1 FROM WILLIAM MUIR WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY OF BANU AL MUSTALIQ WERE SOLDTO HIGHEST BIDDERS TOTALLY NONSENSE
2 ABU SAID AL KHUDRI(RA) HAD SEX WITH ONE CAPTIVE SLAVE GIRL
AGAIN NONSENSE ACCORDING TO ALL AUTHENTIC HAADITHS SEERAH HADITHS AND RESOURCES WITH SAHIH ISNAADS SAYS ALL CAPTIVES AND PROPERTY OF BANU AL MUTALIQ WAS RETURNED
HERE IS THE VIDEO OF YASIR QADHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zWX6aOKuPo
AND SAYING PRACTICALLY U KNOW WE NEED AN HOUR OR ATLEAST A HALF FOR SEX BUT THE AUTHENTIC HADITH SAYS AS SOON AS THE CAPTIVES WERE DISTRIBUTED THEN SHE CAME.
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS BEST

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REFERENCES
1. BANU ALMUSTALIQ
1)SUNAN ABU DAWUD 3931 GRADE: HASAN
2)IBN SAD TABAQAT AL KUBRA
PLEASE REFER ALSO
http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/rebuttaltoalisina8.htm
2. battle of hunain
[1] The claim that the women who were captured immiediately had sexual intimacy with the captives and their husbands being present is not true, given the fact the men all ran into the mountains. Al-Jassas (d. 370 A.H.);
“Muhammad bin ‘Ali narrated: “When it was the day Awtas, the (disbeliever) men fled to the mountains and their women were taken as captives.” (Ahkam al-Qur’an, Dar al-Kotob al-Ilmiyya, Beirut, 1994 volume 2 page 173), quote extracted from the following site: http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/09/no-rape-slave-women-islam.html?m=1
[2] Ibn Sa’d’s Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, [Translated by S. Moinul Haq (New Delhi: Kitab Bhavan, 2009)] volume 2, page 185
[3] The History of al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet – [Translator: Ismail K. Poonawala], volume 9, page 2 – 4
[6] Prophetic saying on prohibition of killing women:
“It was narrated from Ibn ‘Umar that the Prophet saw a woman who had been killed on the road, and he forbade killing women and children. (Sunan Ibn Majah, volume 4, Book 24, Hadith 2841)
[7] Another Prophetic statement forbidding the killing of women:
“Abd Allah bin (mas’ud) said “A woman was found slain in one of the battles of the Apostle of Allaah. The Apostle of Allaah FORBADE to kill women and children. (Sunan Abi Dawud Book 14, Hadith 2662)
[8] “A group said that the marriage of couple imprisoned together is NOT annulled. But the imprisonment of one prior to the other annuls their marriage. This was Abu Hanifa’s opinion. … There are two opinions from Malik. First, that imprisonment does not annul marriage at all. Second, that it annuls it absolutely, as in al-Shafi’i’s opinion.” (Bidayat al-Mujtahid wa Nihayat al-Muqtasid, Ibn Rushd, volume 2, page 52)
[9] “Imam Abu Hanifa holds it to be unlawful to marry those female slaves who together with husbands have been taken captive.”
The Social Laws Of The Qoran: Considered, and Compared with those of the Hebrew and other ancient codes [Routledge: Taylor & Francis Group, London And New York, 2007], by Robert Roberts B.A (Wales), PH. D. (Leip), page 16
[10] Muhammad bin al-Hasan al-Shaybani – the student of Abu Hanifa, the Imam- said: “When the army takes a woman captive followed by her husband who is also taken captive sooner or later and either the woman does not have menses during that period or has had upto three menses but she is not taken out of the Territory of War before her husband is taken, their marriage shall continue. ” (Kitab Al-Siyar Al-Saghir- The Shorter Book on Muslim International Law- Translated by Mahmood Ahmad Ghazi, Islamic Research Institute, Islamabad, 1998 p.51) Quote retrieved from the following site: http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/09/no-rape-slave-women-islam.html?m=1
[14] Professor of Law Intisar A. Rabb:
“Classical Islamic family law generally recognized marriage and creation of a master-slave relationship as the two legal instruments rendering permissible sexual relations between two people. Not every scholar recognised the second. It was disputed by prominent jurists and theologians in Islam’s early period, that is, the first/seventh through the third/ninth century. See, for example, Muwaffaq al-Din Ibn Qudama (d. 620/1223), al-Mughni, ed. ʿAbd Allah b. ʿAbd al-Muḥsin al-Turki and ʿAbd al-Fattaḥ Muḥammad al-Ḥilw (Cairo: Hajar, 1986), 9:552 (noting an objection from al-Ḥasan al-Baṣri (d. 110/728)); ʿAbd al-Qahir al-Baghdadi (d. 429/1037), Kitab Uṣul al-din (Beirut: Dar al-Afaq al-Jadida, 1981), 336 (noting the objections of a group of early Muʿtazili rationalist theologians). Similarly, known Sunni and Shiʿi jurists-cum-exegetes came down against any blanket permissibility of master-slave sexual relations with skepticism. See Ṭabari (d. 310/923), Jami al-bayan ʿan taʾwil ay al-Qurʾan (also known as Tafsir al- Ṭabari), ed. Ṣalaḥ ʿAbd al-Fattaḥ al-Khalidi and Ibrahim Muḥammad al-ʿAli (Damascus: Dar al-Qalam; Beirut: al-Dar al-Shamiyya, 1997), 8:151–69 (INTERPRETING QURʾAN, 4:24, AND OTHER VERSES TO REQUIRE A SLAVE WOMAN’S CONSENT BEFORE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH HER MASTER ARE DEEMED PERMISSIBLE); Muḥammad Ḥusayn al-Ṭabaṭabaʾi (d. 1403/1983), al-Mizan fi tafsir al-Qurʾan (Beirut: Muʾassasat alAʿlami liʾl-Maṭbuʿat, n.d.), 4:266–68 (alluding to the opinion of “some exegetes” who generalized the meaning of the Qurʾānic verse 4:24 to refer not to slave women but to chaste women, implying a position against the notion that master-slave relationships automatically validate sexual relations). For an opinion with similar implications from a minority group, see Abū Muḥammad ʿUthman b. ʿAbd Allah al-ʿIraqi (mid-sixth/twelfth century), al-Firaq al-muftaraqa (Ankara: n.p., 1961), 16 (quoting the Khariji group called the Ḥamziyya, who considered the enslavement of prisoners of war illegal altogether).
Doubt in Islamic Law: A History of Legal Maxims, Interpretation, and Islamic Criminal Law (Cambridge Studies in Islamic Civilization) by Intisar A. Rabb, page 59
15] A narration reported by Abu Dharr tells us that:
“The Prophet (p) said: “Feed those of your captives who please you from what you eat and clothe them with what you clothe yourselves, but sell those who do not please you and DO NOT punish Allah’s creatures.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, Hadith 5142. Albani classified it as Sahih)
This report tells us if a captive-woman were to refuse to please her master, by making food or getting intimate, he was NOT allowed to force her. God orders Muslims to sell her and move away from her. The Prophet also recommended to set free captives. They were NOT to punish. From leaving each other, maybe the second person she goes to may have a better relationship. The idea about ‘raping’ captive-women is described by God to be “punishing Allah’s creatures”, which is the most heinous crime to do.

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REFUTING RELIGION OF PEACE.COM
1)Sahih Bukhari (80:753) - "The Prophet said, 'The freed slave belongs to the people who have freed him.'"
THIS IS NONSENSE PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) SAID THE WALA "INHERITANCE" BELONGS TO OWNER THE SLAVE ONE FREED DOSEN'T BELONGS TO ANYONE
2)Sahih Bukhari (52:255) - The slave who accepts Islam and continues serving his Muslim master will receive a double reward in heaven.
YES BECAUSE PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) WHILE GIVING RIGHTS TO SLAVES NEVER NRGLECTED MASTERS RIGHTS AND PROMISED REWARDS FOR AN OBEDIENT SLAVE
3)
Sahih Bukhari (62:137) - An account of women taken as slaves in battle by Muhammad's men after their husbands and fathers were killed. The woman were raped with Muhammad's approval.

Sahih Bukhari (34:432) - Another account of females taken captive and raped with Muhammad's approval. In this case it is evident that the Muslims intend on selling the women after raping them because they are concerned about devaluing their price by impregnating them. Muhammad is asked about coitus interruptus.
THIS IS JUST EXTREME JEALOUSY AND HATERED WE HAVE SEEN DETAILS ABOVE WHICH CLEARLY PROVES RAPE OF FEMALE SLAVE PROHIBITED AND DONKEYS DIDN'T CHECKED THE SCENERIO TWICE
MAY ALLAH CURSE THEM
Sahih Bukhari (47.765) - A woman is rebuked by Muhammad for freeing a slave girl. The prophet tells her that she would have gotten a greater heavenly reward by giving her to a relative (as a slave).
THIS WAS JUST A CASE HE NEVER EVER TOLD THIS TO ANYONE ELSE
http://www.answering-christianity.com/equality.htm
https://islamqa.info/en/94840

https://islamqa.info/en/94840
Sahih Muslim 4345 - Narration of a military raid against a hapless tribe trying to reach their water hole. During the slaughter, the women and children attempt to flee, but are cut off and captured by the Muslims. This story refutes any misconception that Muhammad's sex slaves were taken by their own volition.
JEALOUSY REMAINS JEALOUSY
LET US SEE THE CONDUCT OF A NOBLE COMPANION
“…we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) met me in the street and said: ‘Give me that girl, O Salama!’ I said: ‘Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her.’ The next day, the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) again met me in the street, he said: ‘O Salama, give me that girl, May God bless your father.’ I said: ‘She is for you. Messenger of Allah! By Allah! I have not yet disrobed her.’ The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) sent her to the people of Makkah, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Makkah.” (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 3299)

Now one can observe that Salama (RA) said that he had not disrobed her when they reached Medina and again when the Holy Prophet (PBUH) met him in the street he told that he had not disrobed her. And even the next day, after the night having passed, when he was again asked for the girl, he testified that he had yet not disrobed her though she fascinated him.

This is enough proof that Salama didn’t forcefully lay with her as it was against the teachings of Islam. Islam does not allow a man to forcefully have sexual intercourse with his slave woman, otherwise no could stop Salama from sleeping with a slave girl who fascinated him.
Sahih Bukhari (59:637) - "The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, 'Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)?' When we reached the Prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, 'O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?' I said, 'Yes.' He said, 'Do you hate him, for he deserves more than that from the Khumlus.'" Muhammad approved of his men having sex with slaves, as this episode involving his son-in-law, Ali, clearly proves. This hadith refutes the modern apologists who pretend that slaves were really "wives." This is because Muhammad had forbidden Ali from marrying another woman as long as Fatima (his favorite daughter) was living.
NO NOT MODERN APOLOGISTS SAY THIS
“ … Intercourse with the slave-woman is (in certain ways) like the marriage contract.” (Al Mausu'ah Al Fiqhiyyah Al Kuwaitiyah. vol.11 p.300)

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WITH REGARDS TO THE REPORT SAHABA IT BELONGS TO BATTLE OF FAZRA
1)It has been narrated on the authority of Salama (b. al-Akwa') who said: We fought against the Fazara and Abu Bakr was the commander over us. He had been appointed by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). When we were only at an hour's distance from the water of the enemy, Abu Bakr ordered us to attack. We made a halt during the last part of the night to rest and then we attacked from all sides and reached their watering-place where a battle was fought. Some of the enemies were killed and some were taken prisoners. I saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children. I was afraid lest they should reach the mountain before me, so I shot an arrow between them and the mountain. When they saw the arrow, they stopped. So I brought them, driving them along. Among them was a woman from Banu Fazara. She was wearing a leather coat. With her was her daughter who was one of the prettiest girls in Arabia . I drove them along until I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that girl upon me as a prize. So we arrived in Medina . I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: Give me that girl, O Salama. I said: Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her. When on the next day. the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) again met me in the street, he said: O Salama, give me that girl, may God bless your father. I said: She is for you. Messenger of Allah! By Allah. I have not yet disrobed her. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent her to the people of Mecca , and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Mecca ." Muslim 19, 4345


First of all we need to understand that it was Banu Fazara that started the whole ordeal. So obviously the Prophet was going to retaliate to take back his property. This is self defense, which is a universal principle.

 

Saheeh Bukhari

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 278:

Narrated Salama:

I went out of Medina towards Al-Ghaba. When I reached the mountain path of Al-Ghaba, a slave of 'Abdur-Rahman bin 'Auf met me. I said to him, "Woe to you! What brought you here?" He replied, "The she-camels of the Prophet have been taken away." I said, "Who took them?" He said, "Ghatafan and Fazara." So, I sent three cries, "O Sabaha-h ! O Sabahah !" so loudly that made the people in between its (i.e. Medina's) two mountains hear me. Then I rushed till I met them after they had taken the camels away. I started throwing arrows at them saying, "I am the son of Al-Akwa"; and today perish the mean people!" So, I saved the she-camels from them before they (i.e. the robbers) could drink water. When I returned driving the camels, the Prophet met me, I said, "O Allah's Apostle Those people are thirsty and I have prevented them from drinking water, so send some people to chase them." The Prophet said, "O son of Al-Akwa', you have gained power (over your enemy), so forgive (them). (Besides) those people are now being entertained by their folk."

 WITH REGARDS TO KILLING OF UMM QIRFA
http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2010/01/story-of-killing-of-umm-qirfa-facts-and.html


WITH REGARDS TO PROPHET(SWS) PREVENTING ALI IBN ABI TALIB (RA) FROM SECOND MARRIAGE
http://icraa.org/prohibiting-ali-from-a-legal-marriage-alleged-inconsistency-of-the-prophet/


Abu Dawud (2150) - "The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Quran 4:24) 'And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.'" This is the background for verse 4:24 of the Quran. Not only does Allah give permission for women to be captured and raped, but allows it to even be done in front of their husbands. (See also Muslim 3432 & Ibn Kathir/Abdul Rahman Part 5 Page 14)
 I HAVE EXPLAINED THE WHOLE DETAILS ABOVE NARRATION DOSEN'T CONTAINS IN THE PRESENCE OF
http://quran-errors.blogspot.in/2014/08/the-mistranslation-of-hadeeth-in-sunan.html


Ibn Ishaq (734) - A slave girl is given a "violent beating" by Ali in the presence of Muhammad, who does nothing about it.
THIS IS A FALSE NARRATION REAL NARRATION IS THIS
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2193.0.html


Abu Dawud 38:4458 - Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib: “A slave-girl belonging to the house of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) committed fornication. He (the Prophet) said: Rush up, Ali, and inflict the prescribed punishment on her. I then hurried up, and saw that blood was flowing from her, and did not stop. So I came to him and he said: Have you finished inflicting (punishment on her)? I said: I went to her while her blood was flowing. He said: Leave her alone till her bleeding stops; then inflict the prescribed punishment on her. And inflict the prescribed punishment on those whom your right hands possess (i.e. slaves)”. A slave girl is ordered by Muhammad to be beaten until she bleeds, and then beaten again after the bleeding stops. He indicates that this is prescribed treatment for slaves ("those whom your right hand possesses").
1) HERE IF WE READ THE NARRATION WE WILL REALIZE THAT PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) ORDERED THE HADD PUNISHMENT BECAUSE SHE COMMITED FORNICATION NOT BECAUSE SHE WAS A SLAVE GIRL
2) THIS SLAVE GIRL IS ACTUALLY MARIA(RA) AND THIS NARRATION IS NOT SAHEEH RATHER IT IS HASAN WHICH ARE ACCEPTED UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES MOREOVER SHE COMMITED FORNICATION WAS JUST A RUMOUR HERE IS VIDEO OF YASIR QADHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvBgwrl-UC0

Ibn Ishaq (693) - "Then the apostle sent Sa-d b. Zayd al-Ansari, brother of Abdu'l-Ashal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons." Muhammad trades away women captured from the Banu Qurayza tribe to non-Muslim slave traders for property. (Their men had been executed after surrendering peacefully without a fight).
1) WITH REGARDS TO THIS NARRATION IT IS HIGHLY AMBIGUOUS
REASONS
1 NOT NARRATED IN ANY OF THE SAHEEH HADITHS WHATSOVER
2 IN SIRA BOOKS ALSO IBN ISHAQ IS ONLY NARRATOR WHO REPORTED THIS
3 IT IS NOT PRESENT IN ANY OF THE SEERAH EXCEPT THE ONES WHO TOOK FROM IBN ISHAQ
4 WHEN BANU QURAIZA FORTS WERE BESIEGED THEY GOT MANY BOOTY AND WEAPONS SO WHAT'S THE LOGIC IN THIS
5 IF U WILL SEE THE HADITH I QUOTED OF JAMI TIRMIDHI IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT PROPHET MUHMMAD (sws) HATED TO SEPERATE RELATIONS(ALTHOUGH CLASSED AS HASAN GHAREEB SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN NARRATED FROM ALI IBN ABI TALIB AND THIS WAS THE PRACTICE OF PROPHET MUHMMAD (sws) AND SAHABA AND PEOPLE OF KNOWLEDGE PLEASE SEE THE CONTEXT OF THE HADITH
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS BEST

DETALIS OF BANU QURAIZA
https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/01/01/re-examining-banu-qurayzah-incident/
https://islamqa.info/en/201120
https://islamqa.info/en/178689


Sahih Muslim 4112 - A man freed six slaves on the event of his death, but Muhammad reversed the emancipation and kept four in slavery to himself. He cast lots to determine which two to free.
THE REASON PROPHET MUHMMAD (sws) DID THIS BECAUSE THE MAN WAS HAVING ONLY SLAVES AS PROPERTY AND FREEING THEM WOULD HAVE MADE HIM BEGGAR
PROPHET MUHMMAD (sws) NEVER DISCOURAGED FREEIN OF SLAVES
PLEASE SEE
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/tafheem/sura24-aya33.html

Narated By Asma' bint AbuBakr : We came out for performing hajj along with the Apostle of Allah (pbuh). When we reached al-Araj, the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) alighted and we also alighted. 'Aisha sat beside the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) and I sat beside my father (AbuBakr). The equipment and personal effects of AbuBakr and of the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) were placed with AbuBakr's slave on a camel. AbuBakr was sitting and waiting for his arrival. He arrived but he had no camel with him. He asked:

Where is your camel? He replied: I lost it last night. AbuBakr said: There was only one camel, even that you have lost. He then began to beat him while the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) was smiling and saying: Look at this man who is in the sacred state (putting on ihram), what is he doing?
Abu Dawud (1814)
AGAIN THIS NARRATION IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD
1. HERE THE SLAVE WAS BEAT NOT BECAUSE HE WAS A SLAVE BUT BECAUSE HE HAD LOST ALL THE BELONGINGS HAD IT BEEN THE GENERAL PRACTICE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOADS OF HADITHS IN THIS SUBJECT
2 THE BEATING WAS JUST BECAUSE HE DESERVED BECAUSE OF WHAT HE DID NOT BECAUSE OF WHO HE WAS
3. THE FACT THAT PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) DIDN'T FORBADE HIS BEATING IS THE BIGGEST PROOF THAT THE BEATING WAS NOT HARSH AND BRUTAL BEACUSE HE FORBADE ANY TYPE OF BEATING OF SLAVES
http://www.answering-christianity.com/slaves_treatment.htm


ALL PRAISE AND GRACE IS TO ALLAH MAY ALLAH GUIDE THESE PEOPLE

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EXTRA POINTS
1) LET US SEE THE VIEW OF ANOTHER PROMINENT SCHOLAR
Ibn Hazm (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Both slave women and free women are enjoined not to refuse the master or husband if he calls them for intercourse, so long as the woman who is called is not menstruating or sick and likely to be HARMED  by intercourse, or observing an obligatory fast. If she refuses with no excuse then she is cursed. End quote from al-Muhalla (10/40).

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Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Affan,

Jazaka Allah Khayr for your posts, akhi. 

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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2)
As far as those two posts by Ali sina Is concerned let me myself make it clear
With regards to the property of banu al mustaliq is concerned it was all returned to the people after they accepted Islam
Ali sina uses a quote from William muir in his article that the property was sold to highest bidders which is a clear cut lie and fabrication and another quote from al waqidi vol 3 page 416 saying that Abu said al khudri ( ra ) had sex with slave woman which is again a fabricated lie
Reasons
1) with regards to property please kindly go to whatsoever seerah possible it is clearly written that all properties was returned and All captives not even 1 less than taken were set free
2) with regards to source from al waqidi his narrations are not accepted if it contradicts the authentic hadith and seerah and what Ali sina used in his article
Root of terrorism 46-47
What he used is not even a narration because there is no narrator to the text he provided AT ALL
It's just like saying that
" I saw ur father hanging from a banyan tree"
Al waqidi vol 4 page 56
3) one of the possibilities is that he fabricated the report because he is an excellent fabricator and changes words let me expose him right here
In his article 72 virgins he wrote that the text sunnah talks about breasts of hoor (Astagfirullah)
Here it is available
Wikiislam 72 virgins
And he gives reference of jami tirmidhi which are not present at All
Please visit
https// islamqa.info / en / 243879
3)if someone is doubting me and my research then please kindly go to ibn kasir al seerah wa nabiwwiyah
Vol 3 page 217
See also the introduction where Ibn kathir clearly stated that he took from the magazi of al waqidi and on page 217 the hadith on coitus interuptus has been included in seerah but no where did ibn Kathir included such report from al waqidi that ANY COMPANION ACTUALLY HAD SEX WITH ANY CAPTIVE WOMEN IF THERE WAS SUCH REPORT PRESENT THEN HE WOULD HAVE SURELY INCLUDED IN HIS SEERAH
Indeed Allah Knows best
Now even after all this someone is in doubt then I challenge whomsoever want Either he be Ali sina or anyone else
COME UP WITH ANYTHING AND AM READY



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4)
let me also make some points clear
there are some islamophobes who are accusing that Abu salma (RA) would have raped her but Prophet Muhmmad (sws) asked for her
1 first of all let me make the thing clear that this narration of Abu salma(RA) was of battle of banu fazra
2 this battle was after BANU MUSTALIQ AND BEFORE THE BATTLE OF AWTAS AND FOR REFERENCE PLEASE SEE THE SEALED NECTAR
3 even DURING THIS PERIOD THE IDDAH LAW WAS NOT REVEALED TO PROPHET AND IT WAS LAWFULL FOR THEM TO IMMEDEIATELY ENGAGE IN INTIMACY AFTER THE CAPTIVE WOMEN WERE MADE SLAVES BUT EVEN AFTER THAT HE DIDN'T TOUCHED HER FOR 3 NIGHTS.
LET US SEE THE CONDUCT OF A NOBLE COMPANION
“…we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) met me in the street and said: ‘Give me that girl, O Salama!’ I said: ‘Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her.’ The next day, the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) again met me in the street, he said: ‘O Salama, give me that girl, May God bless your father.’ I said: ‘She is for you. Messenger of Allah! By Allah! I have not yet disrobed her.’ The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) sent her to the people of Makkah, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Makkah.” (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 3299)

Now one can observe that Salama (RA) said that he had not disrobed her when they reached Medina and again when the Holy Prophet (PBUH) met him in the street he told that he had not disrobed her. And even the next day, after the night having passed, when he was again asked for the girl, he testified that he had yet not disrobed her though she fascinated him.

This is enough proof that Salama didn’t forcefully lay with her as it was against the teachings of Islam. Islam does not allow a man to forcefully have sexual intercourse with his slave woman, otherwise no could stop Salama from sleeping with a slave girl who fascinated him.
PROOF THAT NONE OF THE CAPTIVE WOMEN OF HUNAYN WERE EVEN TOUCHED
In this battle the casualties of the Muslims were large, but the biographers have not mentioned the number of those killed. The enemy lost seventy of their bravest, of whom forty fell under the sword of Imam Ali.

As a result of this victory, enormous booty fell into the hands of the Muslims. The Muslims, however, stood to gain and the enemies fled leaving behind six thousand captives, twenty four thousand camels, forty thousand sheep and four thousand Waqih (It is equal to 213 grams approximately) of silver. The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ordered that all the men and the entire property should be taken to Ji'ranah. He also appointed some men to keep a watch. The captives were kept in a particular house and the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ordered that the entire booty should remain there as it was, till he returned from Ta'if.
FROM IBN KATHIR SEERAH WA NABWIYYAH VOL 3
what about ibn katheer
ibn katheer english translation
"consequently we had sexual relations with them" OF QURAN SURAH 4 VERSE 24 is a mistranslation real words are
"and the real translation arabic text of musnad ahmed and ibn katheer contains the word "then we considered their bodies hala for us"
(see ibn katheer life of prophet translation by prof lee gassick vol 3 pg 461)


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LET ME FOCUS ALSO ON RIGHT TO ASK FOR FREEDOM AND CONSENT
PROOF FROM QURAN
(24:32) Marry those of you that are single, (whether men or women),50 and those of your male and female slaves that are righteous.51,52 If they are poor, Allah will enrich them out of His Bounty.53 Allah is Immensely Resourceful, All-Knowing.
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(24:33) Let those who cannot afford to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His Bounty.54 And write out a deed of manumission for such of your slaves that desire their freedom55 in lieu of payment56 - if you see any good in them57 - and give them out of the wealth that Allah has given you.58 And do not compel your slave-girls to prostitution for the sake of the benefits of worldly life the while they desire to remain chaste.59 And if anyone compels them to prostitution, Allah will be Most Pardoning, Much Merciful (to them) after their subjection to such compulsion.
WITH THE BASIC CONDITION THAT THEY WILL NOT BETRAY THE ISLAMIC SOCIETY AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BEG AROUND AFTER ATTAINING THEIR FREEDOM SCHOLARS HAVE STATED THAT IT  BECOMES OBLIGATORY TO GIVE THEM FREEDOM.
FROM EXAMPLES OF CAPTIVES
1) JUWWARRIYAH BIN HARRITH
 
The Marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, May Allah Be Pleased with Her
 
The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives and she was a blessing for her people. Let us know about her story from ‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with her. It was narrated that she said, “When the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq, Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith belonged to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas or one of his cousins. She held a manumission contract with him. She was a beautiful and attractive woman. Anyone who saw her admired her. She came to the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) in order to help her in paying her manumission.”
 
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, continued
 
By Allah, as soon as I saw her at the door of my room, I hated her. I knew that the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) would admire her. She entered to see the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) and said “O Messenger of Allah, I am Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, the chief of his people. I have been afflicted with an adversity that you know [i.e. that she had become a slave woman after she was a free woman and the first lady of her people]. I belong to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas, or a cousin of his, and I hold a manumission contract with him. Here I am seeking your help for the manumission.” The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) said: “Would you want what is better than this?” She said, “What is that, O Messenger of Allah?” He replied: “I shall pay your manumission and marry you.” She agreed, and then the news spread among people.
SUNAN ABU DAWUD BOOK OF EMANCIPATION OF SLAVES
GRADED AS HASAN
2) SAFFIYAH BIN HUYYI BIN AKHTAB
Safiyyah said, ‘It was caused by my ex-husband when I told him of my dream in which I saw as if a moon had fallen into my lap, he [Kinana] slapped me and said, ‘Do you aspire to marry the king of Yathrib?’ (At-Tabarani, Al-Mu’jam al-Kabir, volume 24, page 67) [5]
“While still the bride of Kinana b. al-Rabi b. Abu al-Huqayq, Safiyya had seen a vision in her sleep that a moon dropped into her lap. She told her husband of her vision and he replied, ‘That’s only because you desire the ‘King of HIjaz’, Muhammad!’ He then gave her a slap on her face that blackened her eye. The mark of this was still upon her when she was brought to the Messenger of God (SAAS). He asked her how it had happened, and she told him.’” (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya, volume 3, page 267)
“When Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) reached Khyber while Safiya was a bride at her place. She saw in her dream that a sun came into her lap. She mentioned it before her husband. He said; ‘By Allah you do not wish for anyone except the King who has come upon us.’ Allah’s Messenger conquered Khyber and her husband was killed. From that time (of dream) she loved that the Prophet (pbuh) may marry her. (Tabarani Kabeer, Hadith 19667)

Ibn Umar narrates: In the eye of Sayyidah Safiya was a scar. Holy Prophet (pbuh) said to her, ‘What is this scar in your eye?’ She said, ‘I mentioned before my husband that I saw a moon falling into my lap in a dream so he slapped me and said; ‘Do you long for the King of Yathrib [i.e. Holy Prophet pbuh]’ (Tabarani Kabeer, Hadith 19668. Albani classified it as Sahih in his Silsala Sahiha H. 2793)
When Safiya came to the Holy Prophet (pbuh), he said to her; ‘Among the Jews your father did not stop in his enmity towards me until Allah destroyed him.’ She said: ‘O Allah’s Messenger! Indeed Allah says in His book, ‘No one will take anyone else’s burden’. So the Holy Prophet (p) said to her: ‘MAKE YOUR CHOICE, if you will chose Islam I’ll select you for myself and IF YOU CHOSE JUDAISM, I WILL SET YOU FREE AND SENT YOU TO YOUR PEOPLE.’ She said; ‘O Allah’s Messenger indeed I longed for Islam and testified for you even before you gave me this invitation when I came to you. I have no guardian among the Jews, neither father nor brother and I prefer Islam over disbelief. Allah and His Messenger are dear to me then freedom and to return to my people.” (Ibn Saad volume 8, page 123)
3) captives of banu al mustaliq
 
Thereupon, the Muslims released all Banu Al-Mustaliq’s captives as they had become relatives through the marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ).

‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “The marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, was the cause of the setting free of one hundred families of the Banu Al-Mustaliq. I do not know of a woman who was greater in blessing to her people than she was. Following the incident, Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, Juwayriyah’s father, came to Madeenah with the ransom of his daughter. The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) invited him to embrace Islam, and he did.”
NOW SIMPLE QUESTIONS TO ISLAMOPHOBES
1) HOW COME CAPTIVES OF BANU MUSTALIQ ACCEPTED ISLAM AFTER THE BATTLE DIDN'T THEY RECOGNISED THE ONES WHO WERE GOING TO RAPE THEM?
2) WHY JUWWARIYYAH (RA) ACCEPTED ISLAM AND WHY SAFFIYAH(RA) TOO?
IT IS THE TRUTH FROM UR LORD

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REASONS WHY MUTAH(TEMPORARY) MARRIAGE IS FORBIDDEN
https://islamqa.info/en/20738
https://islamqa.info/en/27104
IF SOMEONE WILL READ THIS REASONS HE WILL FOR SURE REALISE ALLAH WILLING THAT THE OPINION I ADOPTED IS EXTREMELY STRONG MOREOVER IF ALLAH JUST WANTED MUSLIMS TO USE SLAVE WOMAN FOR SEX THEN WHATS THE MEANING OF IDDAH LAW FOR A CAPTIVE WOMAN TAKEN AS SLAVE GIRL
REFUTING ALI SINA
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Rape
I HAVE ALREADY REFUTED ALL THE HADITHS NOW I AM REFUTING SCHOLARS PAGE
A man may gratify his passion with his female slave in whatever way he pleases- It is lawful for a man to perform the act of Azil (i.e. coitus interruptus) with his female slave without her consent, whereas he cannot lawfully do so by his wife unless with her permission. –The reason of this is that the Prophet has forbidden the act of Azil with a free woman without her consent but has permitted it to a master in the case of his female slave. Besides, carnal connexion is the right of a free woman for the gratifying of her passion, and the propagation of children (whence it is that a wife is at liberty to reject a husband who is an eunuch or impotent); whereas a slave possesses no such right.—A man, therefore, is not at liberty to injure the right of his wife, whereas a master is absolute with respect to his slave. If, also, a man should marry the female slave of another, he must not perform the act of Azil with her without the consent of her master.
The Hidaya p.600. Archived at [3]
AS FAR AS COITUS INTERRUPTUS IS CONCERNED SOME SCHOLARS SAY IT IS ALLOWED TO PERFORM IT WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF FEMALE SLAVE BUT HE DIDN'T SAID THAT IT IS FINE TO RAPE HER OR HARM HER FORCEFUL INTERCOURSE
I HAVE A BIT DIFFERENT OPINION SINCE ONE OF THE WAYS A SLAVE WOMAN GETS HER FREEDOM IS BY BORING CHILD TO HER MASTER SO SHE MIGHT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONSENT FOR COITUS INTERRUPTUS. MAYBE THE CAN PERFORM AZLI WITHOUT HER CONSENT BUT THAT FOR SURE NOT ALWAYS BECAUSE IT WILL KILL  HER POSSIBLE WAY OF BECOMING FREE AND ISLAM ENCOURAGES FREEDOM OF SLAVES IF THEY WANT IT.


Husband forcing his wife to have intercourse
Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597
ALI SINA IS UNNECESARILY CREATING CONFUSION THRUOGH THIS FATWA HE IS PROTRAYING AS THOUGH IT IS ALLOWED TO RAPE UR WIFE AND SLAVE GIRL IF SHE IS REFUSING TO SEX
HERE IS THE RESPONSE BY THE SAME SCHOLAR
https://islamqa.info/en/40405
THIS WILL INSHAALLAH CLARIFY

WITH REGARDS TO THIS FATWA

Intercourse with a slave woman is not regarded as zina (adultery)
Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 20802
I HAVE ALREADY CLEARED WITH EXPLANATION


[It is] un-Islamic to stop husbands from having sex with their wives even if they were doing so without their consent.[1]
Dr Aamir Liaqat Hussain, Pakistan's minister of state for religious affairs

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS SCHOLAR BUT HE IS SIMPLY CONTRADICTING THE ISLAMIC LAWS
https://islamqa.info/en/9602

Moreover, the founder of the Shafi'i madhabs also confirmed that stance:
If a man acquires by force a slave-girl, then has sexual intercourse with her after he acquires her by force, and if he is not excused by ignorance, then the slave-girl will be taken from him, he is required to pay the fine, and he will receive the punishment for illegal sexual intercourse.
— Al-Shafi'i, Kitabul Umm, Vol.3, p.253.
NOW DO THIS ANTI ISLAMICSTS UNDERSTAND ISLAM BETTER THAN IMAM SHAFI
Malik related to me from Nafi that a slave was in charge of the slaves in the khumus and he forced a slave-girl among those slaves against her will and had intercourse with her. Umar ibn al-Khattab had him flogged and banished him, and he did not flog the slave-girl because the slave had forced her.
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:85:81,[41]Al-Muwatta, 41 3.15
HOW COME SUCH A MINIATURE SCHOLAR FORGOT ABOUT IMAM SHAFII A SECOND GENERATION SCHOLAR AND SON OF THE COMPANION OF PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS)



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"When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her"
Shaykh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni, al-Hikma TV, May 22, 2011
PLS DONT GET CONFUSED BY THIS THATS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO CONVEY THAT THE SLAVE WOMEN ARE NOT ONLY MEANT FOR NEITHER THEY SOLD AND BOUGHT ONLY FOR THIS PURPOSE
(ALTHOUGH KEEPING IN MIND THAT ISLAM ALLOWS SEX WITH SLAVE WOMAN)

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SLAVES AND PROSTITUTES
https://islamqa.info/en/5707
Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood said, "We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. So Allaah’s Messenger said, "O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power." Bukhari:5066. The hadeeth orders men who are not able to marry to fast despite the hardship encountered in doing so, and not to masturbate despite the ease with which it can be done.
ANY OF THE SAHIHS U WILL FIND THIS HADITH
HERE PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) ENCOURAGED MARRIAGE OR SUGGESTED FASTING HE NEVER SAID HAVING A SLAVE GIRL IS AN EASY WAY OUT.


A daughter accusing her father of sexual abuse
Islamweb, Fatwa No. 156817, May 18, 2011

IN THIS FATWA HE IS TRYING TO POTRAY AS IF THOUGH ISLAM Allows rape of even ur daughter if someone is not present to give evidence
https://islamqa.info/en/12707

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NOTE
All of those Hadiths in which
Religionofpeace.com has written "another account of women taken as slaves and Raped After Prophet Muhmaad ( sws ) approval"
Is nothing but a bunch of fabricated words in the context of Hadiths.
ONE OF THE PROOF OF PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) BEING THE PROPHET
Before understanding this i want to make the Reader of this article bear in mind that Slavery at the end of the day is Not something PROHIBITED But for understanding one Needs to understand the Purpose of slavery
PLEASE GO TO ISLAM Q AND A AND ISLAM. ORG
NOW THE PROOF
Often people ask that how do you view It as moral that the companions of Prophet Muhmaad ( sws ) wanted to Perform coitus interuptus with the women just taken as slaves and How We are defending it.
AS I AL READY SAID IN THE STARTING THAT PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) FORBADE ONLY THOSE THINGS WHICH HE KNEW WERE FORBIDDEN
NOW THE CHALLENGE COMES
U KNOW WHEN THEY ASKED HIM ABOUT COITUS INTERUPTUS IN BATTLE OF BANU AL MUSTALIQ HE DIDN'T SAID IF YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER AND LAST DAY OF JUDGEMENT THEN U CAN'T COHABIT WITH A CAPTIVE WOMEN BEFORE THE COMPLETION OF WAITING PERIOD.
SO HOW COME IT TOOK HIM 3 LONG YEARS TO FABRICATE AND INVENT A SIMPLE YET VERY VERY IMPORTANT LAW IF HE WAS A FABRICATER AND THEN TO HE PRODUCE A MORE ETHICAL AND A LAW THAT IS HONORING AND SANCTIFYING THE RIGHTS OF FEMALE SLAVE
EVERY LAW THAT PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) NARRATED TO HIS FOLLOWRRS WAS REVEALATION TO HIM. AND I CHALLENGE WHICH CIVILISATION WHICH CULTURE AND RELIGION TALKS ABOUT WAITING PERIOD FOR FEMALE SLAVE
Quran chp 32 Surah Sajda Verse 3
Or THEY SAY MUHMAAD ( SWS ) HAS FABRICATED IT NAY SAY TO THEM IT IS THE TRUTH FROM THEIR LORD.


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NOTE
1) BY ALL THIS EXPLANATIONS I NEVER MEANT TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE TO PERFORM COITUS INTERUPTUS WITH SLAVE WOMAN.
WHAT I WAS TACKLING WAS THE QUESTION
"IF ISLAM GIVES RIGHTS TO SLAVE WOMAN THEN WHY COMPANIONS OF PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) IMMEDIATELY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH CAPTIVE WOMEN OF BANU AL MUSTALIQ?
REASON I HAVE EXPLAINED IN TOTALITY THE REASON THAT SINCE THE IDDAH LAW WAS NOT REVEALED AND THAT RULE DIDN'T CAME INTO FORCE THAT S THE REASON THEY IMMEDIATELY WANTED TO ENGAGE IN SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP
MORE OVER IF THEY RAPIST AS SUCH THEN HOW COME THEY RELEASED ALL THE CAPTIVES WITH OUT HAVING SEX OUT OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL?

 

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