Help, Explanation Needed

[TruthExposer777]

As'salam Alaikum brother Osama plz make a article about it cuz someone commented on a video saying:

I Got some replies for her but i'm tired right now if i'm gone debate with her while feeling like this i get frustrated this is why i asked for a article so i can copy & paste or send the article you know lol and yeah i read answering-christianity.com/warning.htm it's just i can't debate right now, not only that her questions is already answered in the video but i don't get it why she send this comment then is it maybe because she didn't watch the video fully? I even send a link but it's in the description she didn't even bother to read it (answering-christianity.com/warning.htm).

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZna12JAAM

[Sama]

[Sama]

chapter 2:
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/5

[TruthExposer777]

not helping.

[Sama]

not helping.

The hadith is clear. The anti-islamist makes fun of it and ridicules it and wants muslims to reject it.

[TruthExposer777]

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2439.0.html

[TruthExposer777]

Nevermind for now replied to her gone wait for her to reply back.

[adilriaz123]

Asalamullaykum brothers, very interesting topic. I have wondered about the shahih bukhari and muslim for a long time. There are hadith that seem morally and fundementally non-islamic. I found this link research by others brothers into more corruption of hadiths and how they contridict quran itself.

http://submission.org/Corruption_of_Religion.html

Also very interesting point was raised other than you brothers truthexplorer and osama, raised anout there immorality and contridiction. In the above link another point was made was that those reporting certain hadiths did so for political reasons aswell.

[adilriaz123]

Here is another account that sheds some light on the sibject, that most of us muslims have been trained to believe that since the hadith are from sahih bukhari or sahih muslim they must be all 100% this is not correct because trained scholars themselves say that sahih bukhari and muslim have the most reliable hadith, but doesnt mean it is completely relaible meaning they may still be certain errors and contridictions. So basically if a hadith isnt confirmed in quran, and contridicts quran then it needs to be thrown to way side.

http://www.mohammedamin.com/Community_issues/How-reliable-are-hadith.html

[Sama]

Asalamullaykum brothers,
Also very interesting point was raised other than you brothers truthexplorer and osama, raised anout there immorality and contridiction. In the above link another point was made was that those reporting certain hadiths did so for political reasons aswell.

wa alaikum assalam
It seems you like to post links to hadeeth-rejection sites. Anyway, nothing about the hadeeth mentioned above is wrong or immoral.

[adilriaz123]

Brother it seems u misunderstand. There are indeed corrupted hadith, however i never said all hadith are corrupted. If you pay attention to my full statement, i made a clear case that what ever hadith contridicts the quran is clearly a corruption. Since quran can never be contridicted. Also another thing to note is just because the source went to far on bashing hadith which clearly he is mislead into beleving all hadith are wrong, he did mention some points that should be looked into such as the after the 4 caliph period, there were much division and also note that there are abundent of hadith with narrators who are dubious. So it is important to look if the hadith dors not make morally sense and its logic doesn't compare with rasool saw then we shouldnt take that hadith with such conviction. Also i am only posting what i find, allah swt knows how much love i have for our beautiful faith, if i say something wrong may allah azawajal forgive me, ameen.

[Sama]

And hence the science of hadeeth was established.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/Ulum/asa3.html

[QuranSearchCom]

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Much of the classifications of the hadiths are conjectures at best.  300 years after the Prophet, the project of writing down the Hadiths began.  And so, people started collecting writings from different sources and evaluating the texts.  While it is a noble project, but you can't use the hadiths as authority when they disagree with the Glorious Quran.  Everything that disagrees with the Glorious Quran should be automatically invalid:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm

What I find most blasphemous and obnoxious about certain clowns that are deep into the "science of hadiths" is that when one starts challenging their conjecture about the sahih volumes' authenticity, they start attacking the Glorious Quran's preservation.  The conversation will end up with something like this:

"Well if we can't trust the narrators of the Hadiths, then we can't trust the Quran, because the Quran was also compiled and written by them."

The problem with this shallow statement is:

1-  The Glorious Quran was documented and preserved ON THE SPOT.  Not 300 years later.

2-  The Glorious Quran was memorized by many Muslims.

3-  Muslims are commanded to read the Glorious Quran in Its entirety on regular basis, and in several religious occasions, such as the Holy Month of Ramadan.

4-  Muslim imams who lead the Prayers are commanded to read the entire Glorious Quran in sequences (read parts of It in every prayer).

These are some of the reasons why the Glorious Quran was 1000% preserved to the Vowel, not only to the Letter.  Even the way we read the Glorious Quran had been perfectly preserved.  For more details, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links



The comparison is just ludicrous!

I had many arguments with doofus Muslims before on this topic.  The stupidity of religionists in general is too much to bear sometimes.  This is one example.  He is more than willing to throw his Holy Quran in the garbage just to save the load of nonsense that exists in Sahih Bukhari and other volumes.  This is despite the fact that far too many hadiths in Bukhari and others were clearly proven to be fabrications and lies.  Again, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

I hope this helps.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[TruthExposer777]

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Much of the classifications of the hadiths are conjectures at best.  300 years after the Prophet, the project of writing down the Hadiths began.  And so, people started collecting writings from different sources and evaluating the texts.  While it is a noble project, but you can't use the hadiths as authority when they disagree with the Glorious Quran.  Everything that disagrees with the Glorious Quran should be automatically invalid:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm

What I find most blasphemous and obnoxious about certain clowns that are deep into the "science of hadiths" is that when one starts challenging their conjecture about the sahih volumes' authenticity, they start attacking the Glorious Quran's preservation.  The conversation will end up with something like this:

"Well if we can't trust the narrators of the Hadiths, then we can't trust the Quran, because the Quran was also compiled and written by them."

The problem with this shallow statement is:

1-  The Glorious Quran was documented and preserved ON THE SPOT.  Not 300 years later.

2-  The Glorious Quran was memorized by many Muslims.

3-  Muslims are commanded to read the Glorious Quran in Its entirety on regular basis, and in several religious occasions, such as the Holy Month of Ramadan.

4-  Muslim imams who lead the Prayers are commanded to read the entire Glorious Quran in sequences (read parts of It in every prayer).

These are some of the reasons why the Glorious Quran was 1000% preserved to the Vowel, not only to the Letter.  Even the way we read the Glorious Quran had been perfectly preserved.  For more details, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links



The comparison is just ludicrous!

I had many arguments with doofus Muslims before on this topic.  The stupidity of religionists in general is too much to bear sometimes.  This is one example.  He is more than willing to throw his Holy Quran in the garbage just to save the load of nonsense that exists in Sahih Bukhari and other volumes.  This is despite the fact that far too many hadiths in Bukhari and others were clearly proven to be fabrications and lies.  Again, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

I hope this helps.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Alhamduillah Brother Osama Should I Make part 2 video or are you gone make the video? or are you gonna make short Article about It or both O.O?

[QuranSearchCom]

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond to your other post earlier.  Yes brother, please make all of the necessary videos.  Jazaka Allah Khayr for your hard work.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah