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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2017, 06:52:40 PM »
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This is perhaps after the earth was joined with our solar system and began to form life and atmosphere in the goldilock zone.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

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Osama Abdallah

It doesn't matter whether earth was joined or not. It will still remain a obvious error in the bible. The bible claims that light was created after earth began to form, or was created and formless.

Please read my posts above. They will definitely enlighten you.

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2017, 06:57:15 PM »
"3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light...."

Probably light on earth through its cycle around the sun, dear brother.  Not light as in ALL LIGHT in the Universe.  It's open to interpretation.

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2017, 04:26:27 AM »
"3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light...."

Probably light on earth through its cycle around the sun, dear brother.  Not light as in ALL LIGHT in the Universe.  It's open to interpretation.

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Osama Abdallah

Light on earth is the light of the sun.

I'll quote you my post.


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According the bible, God created sun on day 4, and he created light on day 1. So we have 2 possibilities here, either light in the bible is referring to the actual day, or it's referring to the actual light, and in the end, both of them are wrong because:

1.If it's (the light that's mentioned in the bible) is referring to the actual day, then this is entirely falsehood because there can be no day without sun, and sun was created on day 4 while light was created on day 1

2.If it's (the light that's mentioned in the bible) is referring to the actual light, then this is incorrect because according to the bible the light was created after earth was created and was formless.

As you can see, all the other interpretation are false. Even if we assumed that it's referring to the light on earth through its cycle around the sun, it would still be considered wrong because according to the bible light was created on day 1 while sun was created on day 4.


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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2017, 03:58:41 PM »
I think I won  ;D, and I think that you owe me something, brother Osama. That thing is adding this error to your collection in the main site so that everyone could see it.

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2017, 03:58:59 PM »
I think I won  ;D, and I think that you owe me something, brother Osama. That thing is adding this error to your collection in the main site so that everyone could see it.

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2017, 03:59:41 PM »
Sorry for the duplicate post. I wonder why it happens. Maybe this is some kind of bug.

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2017, 04:18:04 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Let us look at the Genesis 1:1-5 verses again:

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Genesis 1
1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

And there was evening and there was morning.  It seems quite clear that the text is talking about light on planet earth, or on planets in general that orbit stars.  I just don't see your argument as a clear-cut proof, akhi.  I don't think the light that GOD Almighty "let be" is the Light of all the Universes.  I don't see that in the text.  You do not want to turn off Jews and Christians and lose credibility with them.  You don't want to come across as desperate.  The Bible is corrupt.  But I wouldn't use gray areas like this as proof.  I would use numbers and clear-cut statements.



Rogue Earth:

"The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep...."

Like I said in my previous post, akhi, this could be referring to a planemo earth (rogue earth that wasn't orbiting any star).  And the Glorious Quran does support this possibility:

www.answering-christianity.com/was_earth_a_planemo_planet.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links




Without Form:

"The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep...."

This could possibly be referring to the pre-iron age of earth.  Both the Glorious Quran and science confirm that iron was sent down to earth.  And science has proven that iron has massively altered earth almost in its entirety, and was also responsible for creating our moon from earth's rock-debris:

www.answering-christianity.com/earth.htm

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2017, 04:44:41 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Let us look at the Genesis 1:1-5 verses again:

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Genesis 1
1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
4 And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness.
5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.

And there was evening and there was morning.  It seems quite clear that the text is talking about light on planet earth, or on planets in general that orbit stars.  I just don't see your argument as a clear-cut proof, akhi.  I don't think the light that GOD Almighty "let be" is the Light of all the Universes.  I don't see that in the text.  You do not want to turn off Jews and Christians and lose credibility with them.  You don't want to come across as desperate.  The Bible is corrupt.  But I wouldn't use gray areas like this as proof.  I would use numbers and clear-cut statements.



Rogue Earth:

"The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep...."

Like I said in my previous post, akhi, this could be referring to a planemo earth (rogue earth that wasn't orbiting any star).  And the Glorious Quran does support this possibility:

www.answering-christianity.com/was_earth_a_planemo_planet.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links




Without Form:

"The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep...."

This could possibly be referring to the pre-iron age of earth.  Both the Glorious Quran and science confirm that iron was sent down to earth.  And science has proven that iron has massively altered earth almost in its entirety, and was also responsible for creating our moon from earth's rock-debris:

www.answering-christianity.com/earth.htm

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Brother Osama, you seem to not actually read my posts.

I literally said:

"That according to the bible light was created on day 1 and sun was created on day four, so we have two possibilities here either the word "light" is referring to morning on earth, or either it's referring to the actual light that was formed 200,000 : 300,000 years later after the big bang, but in the two cases the bible is wrong. Here's why:


1.If it's referring to morning on earth, then it's wrong because the sun was created on day 4 while light was created on day 1.
2.If it's referring to the actual light was formed after the big bang, then it's also wrong because according to the bible light was created after earth, but we know that earth began to form 9.1 millions later after big bang, which is definitely is millions of years after light was formed.


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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2017, 05:07:47 PM »
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1.If it's referring to morning on earth, then it's wrong because the sun was created on day 4 while light was created on day 1.

Not necessarily, akhi.  This is where you and I are disconnecting.  Light already existed.  The creation of our sun on day 4 doesn't mean that light didn't exist on the days before that.  The verses simply speak about light on earth, or on planets in general.  Again, evening and morning and day and night.  All of these deal with cycles of planets around their suns.

So in other words, earth could've been brought to the sun on Day #4 to have light shine on it after it was a stray planet.  This is where the planemo earth theory comes in.  And it seems that both the Bible and the Glorious Quran support it.

Am I still missing it here?

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2017, 05:32:42 PM »
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1.If it's referring to morning on earth, then it's wrong because the sun was created on day 4 while light was created on day 1.

Not necessarily, akhi.  This is where you and I are disconnecting.  Light already existed.  The creation of our sun on day 4 doesn't mean that light didn't exist on the days before that.  The verses simply speak about light on earth, or on planets in general.  Again, evening and morning and day and night.  All of these deal with cycles of planets around their suns.

So in other words, earth could've been brought to the sun on Day #4 to have light shine on it after it was a stray planet.  This is where the planemo earth theory comes in.  And it seems that both the Bible and the Glorious Quran support it.

Am I still missing it here?

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Brother Osama, I think you're quite confused. Let me enlighten you.

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Not necessarily, akhi.  This is where you and I are disconnecting.  Light already existed.  The creation of our sun on day 4 doesn't mean that light didn't exist on the days before that.

Yes indeed, but if that's the case, then the bible is wrong because it implies that earth was created and was formless before light.

Brother Osama, Look.

1-The bible says that God created earth first and it was formless
2-Then the bible says that God created light

The is falsehood because light was created before earth even began to form.

Or

1-The bible is talking about morning.
2-According to the bible God created earth and it was formless.
3-God created morning on earth (light) on day one.



Then this is also wrong because there can be no day, or morning without sun, and sun was created on day 4.

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So in other words, earth could've been brought to the sun on Day #4 to have light shine on it after it was a stray planet.  This is where the planemo earth theory comes in.  And it seems that both the Bible and the Glorious Quran support it.

Could be, but won't change the fact that there's an obvious error in the bible.

I think it's clear now.

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2017, 05:50:14 PM »
Brother Osama, if you are still confused then don't worry. Just add to your main page and people will be incapable of understanding it. It's not hard to understand, but perhaps your mind isn't accepting it.
I'm not trying to say that you're dumb. We all have different minds and thinking.




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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2017, 07:43:00 PM »
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Yes indeed, but if that's the case, then the bible is wrong because it implies that earth was created and was formless before light.

You said it yourself.  It implies.  This is what you think it meant.  Your case remains gray, not black and white.  It will turn off Jews and Christians by looking opinionated, bias and desperate.  I don't like dealing with gray arguments.  Sorry, I can't add it, akhi.  Call me dumb, but I can't add it.

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Re: A new scientific error in the bible!
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2017, 08:57:58 AM »
Okay, as you like, brother Osama.



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