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Offline AMuslimDude213

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Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« on: November 09, 2017, 08:42:40 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 07:57:33 AM »
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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 09:20:25 AM »
Qibla myth has been refuted,Dan gibson only used the top view to determine the qibla and not the mihrab or where old Imams stood,this way I can look at Medina and say its facing Hawaii,therefore Hawaii is a qibla,does that make sense?

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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 09:21:17 AM »
And not even in the oldest Muslim literature or the oldest Non muslims sayings about Islam ever mention a Petra,it was always Mecca.

Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 09:57:04 AM »
Qibla myth has been refuted,Dan gibson only used the top view to determine the qibla and not the mihrab or where old Imams stood,this way I can look at Medina and say its facing Hawaii,therefore Hawaii is a qibla,does that make sense?

What's the probability that almost all of the early mosques original structures (of which we can determine) face Petra? Clearly the builders had an agenda to orient the mosques toward Petra, or else we'd have random data, but instead we have specific data, wherein the mosques specifically face Petra.

The mihrabs are there to signify the new prayer directions, but the original site was in norther Arabia, in Petra.

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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 10:13:50 AM »
Mihrabs were there since the past,give me one ancient islamic literature mentioning petra.

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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 10:21:49 AM »

Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 04:11:57 PM »
Mihrabs were there since the past,give me one ancient islamic literature mentioning petra.

The Abbasids burned many libraries and went through extensive lengths to destroy any fragment of Quranic history from Petra, then they manufactured your religion thereafter. That's the dominant theory, which you can learn from Dan Gibson's documentary.

If you are overly emotional about your religion, then don't watch it.

I am not a relativist, things are either true or they are not. Muhammad was not from Mecca, because he just wasn't. Critical thinking isn't your sport... let academic historians do their stuff and then judge from there, stop sprouting misinformation. I linked Gibson's and King's clash, read that and stop thinking, because you can't think. Lol.

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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2017, 04:49:43 PM »
Mihrabs were there since the past,give me one ancient islamic literature mentioning petra.

The Abbasids burned many libraries and went through extensive lengths to destroy any fragment of Quranic history from Petra, then they manufactured your religion thereafter. That's the dominant theory, which you can learn from Dan Gibson's documentary.

If you are overly emotional about your religion, then don't watch it.


Again, that doesn't prove us anything.

What type of books were burned by Muslim empires?

Obviously, stupid scientists couldn't read these books because they already burned, so how did they know these books mentioned about Petra? They are lying.
So, how do you know that these books mentioned about Petra for Muhammad's birth? Show your evidence.
 

Maybe these books were written by infidels, or Shi'ite or hypocrites.   

Sorry NWO, but your evidence is not powerful enough to support your claim.

So there is no good evidence that these books mentioned about Muhammad's birth in Petra because they were already burned.

According to sources, Islamic invaders burned mass libraries that were belonged to infidels. Just like Muhammad destroyed idols in Mecca.

Some researches suggested that Caliph Umar also burned libraries in Alexandria, Egypt.



Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2017, 05:25:31 PM »
Mihrabs were there since the past,give me one ancient islamic literature mentioning petra.

The Abbasids burned many libraries and went through extensive lengths to destroy any fragment of Quranic history from Petra, then they manufactured your religion thereafter. That's the dominant theory, which you can learn from Dan Gibson's documentary.

If you are overly emotional about your religion, then don't watch it.


Again, that doesn't prove us anything.

What type of books were burned by Muslim empires?

Obviously, stupid scientists couldn't read these books because they already burned, so how did they know these books mentioned about Petra? They are lying.
So, how do you know that these books mentioned about Petra for Muhammad's birth? Show your evidence.
 

Maybe these books were written by infidels, or Shi'ite or hypocrites.   

Sorry NWO, but your evidence is not powerful enough to support your claim.

So there is no good evidence that these books mentioned about Muhammad's birth in Petra because they were already burned.

According to sources, Islamic invaders burned mass libraries that were belonged to infidels. Just like Muhammad destroyed idols in Mecca.

Some researches suggested that Caliph Umar also burned libraries in Alexandria, Egypt.

Documentary is available on Amazon prime, you cannot hide it forever, so you might as well watch it and thereafter try to deal with it.

This is the biggest pike in your religion's bottom. If you're into apologetics then really, you've got to see it. Christian's will pickup on it soon... Christianity went under the furnace of critical historical reasoning, now it's your religion's turn!

Offline Albarra

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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2017, 07:35:59 PM »
What is the name of the documentary on Amazon?


Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2017, 07:47:56 PM »
What is the name of the documentary on Amazon?

The sacred city.

Please do not make further interjections until you've watched it, it summarizes everything quite nicely.

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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2017, 09:41:24 PM »
NWO cleanse, you've watched the documentary right? Maybe you should summarise the points for him....how much does it cost by the way? I don't think AMuslimdude213 would be able to afford it, he's still a high school teenager as far as i know....

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Re: Why Petra cannot be where Muhammad SAW was from
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2017, 10:13:07 PM »
NWO cleanse, you've watched the documentary right? Maybe you should summarise the points for him....how much does it cost by the way? I don't think AMuslimdude213 would be able to afford it, he's still a high school teenager as far as i know....

Yeah, and I'm a freshman of college.

 

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