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Islam and evolution
« on: January 28, 2018, 02:33:07 PM »
It's impossible for Islam to be scientific here's why let's talk about evolution some Muslims say we believe in evolution in small and gradual steps but not the fact we came from apes this is impossible let me prove this.
1) If you believe organisms can make small gradual changes the earth has been around for billions of years so we could have easily and gradually evolved from apes.
2) If you believe animals have to make small minature adaptions this means your God has made some minature mistakes.
Seriously use logic
3) People also say that there is no evidence for evolution but we find skulls of ape looking humans your excuse is then how do we know this isn't a different species but scientist have observed these skulls and they are 100% sure these are our ancestors.
4) Also there is not one grain of evidence of perfect creation actually it's obvious most animals have adapted due to there circumstances just look around your God didn't make them they adapted you ask us proof of evolution and the big bang were is your proof of perfect creation and animal don't Mar small adaptions.
5) If an animal makes a small adaption which they do your God has made a small mistake.

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Re: Islam and evolution
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 02:34:01 PM »
Anyone can debunk this using logic.

Offline Mahir Adnan

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Re: Islam and evolution
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 04:07:38 PM »
He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent.(sura fatir,:1)
so,it's possible that Allah can modify or increase in creation. it's possible that Allah created other animals through evolution except human, I heard this is the belief of sheikh yasir qadhi and zaghlool najjar.
we-have-still-not-found-the-missing-link-between-us-and-apes.
There was once an animal that was an ancestor to both humans and apes. But what was it like?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fxD3DSWgknE

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Re: Islam and evolution
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 04:17:33 PM »
1) If you believe organisms can make small gradual changes the earth has been around for billions of years so we could have easily and gradually evolved from apes.
Many Darwinists wonder how we could possibly deny the 'fact of evolution'. After all, we can actually observe changes in nature. How can we possibly not see this? The only explanation, Darwinists say, is that we are willingly ignorant of the truth.

However, we do not deny variation. Not even the most fundamental die-hard scientist would ever deny that change occurs! Presenting variations with the view that we deny them is a misrepresentation of our position.

The scientific evolution:
'change over time',  'descent with modification', or 'the change of allele frequencies of a population over time'.

This is well established, testable, falsifiable and provable.

Neo-Darwinism  ( commonly called 'Evolution theory')

'the idea that all life has descended from a single common ancestor over millions of years via a net gain in new genetic information'.

This is laughable Speculation; completely half baked, not testable, not falsifiable and not provable.

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Re: Islam and evolution
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 04:20:19 PM »
2- Please delete my comment. I didn't read the point correctly.


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Re: Islam and evolution
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 12:04:17 AM »
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It's impossible for Islam to be scientific here's why let's talk about evolution some Muslims say we believe in evolution in small and gradual steps but not the fact we came from apes this is impossible let me prove this.

Why must we be from apes?  Just because we are related in many things, it doesn't mean that we evolved from them.  Anyway, the following links should help, Insha'Allah:

www.answering-christianity.com/evolution.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/cloning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ufo.htm


Also, see the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles, and also Prophecies at:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Islam and evolution
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 02:19:58 PM »
1) If you believe organisms can make small gradual changes the earth has been around for billions of years so we could have easily and gradually evolved from apes.
Many Darwinists wonder how we could possibly deny the 'fact of evolution'. After all, we can actually observe changes in nature. How can we possibly not see this? The only explanation, Darwinists say, is that we are willingly ignorant of the truth.

However, we do not deny variation. Not even the most fundamental die-hard scientist would ever deny that change occurs! Presenting variations with the view that we deny them is a misrepresentation of our position.

The scientific evolution:
'change over time',  'descent with modification', or 'the change of allele frequencies of a population over time'.

This is well established, testable, falsifiable and provable.

Neo-Darwinism  ( commonly called 'Evolution theory')

'the idea that all life has descended from a single common ancestor over millions of years via a net gain in new genetic information'.

This is laughable Speculation; completely half baked, not testable, not falsifiable and not provable.
1)If we agree creations make small subtle adaptions over time in 3.4 billion years millions of adaptions could make that organism into a new species like from human to ape just an example. I know there is no solid evidence but over 3.4 billion years organisms must be completely different don't you think?
2) If we belive in small adaptations does that flaw the theory of perfect creation

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 06:09:35 AM »
Humans are classified in biology as Apes. So, biologically speaking, you are an ape. The same way you say: ants are insects.

If you mean animal-like, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utBiNpoUmtY

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 11:25:14 AM »
Humans are classified in biology as Apes. So, biologically speaking, you are an ape. The same way you say: ants are insects.

If you mean animal-like, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utBiNpoUmtY
So is there a chance we were once ape like not apes still human but ape like.

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Re: Islam and evolution
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