Satanic verses

[Al Masihi]

The greatest challenge to all Muslims, is the satanic verses. This one event which until now shakes the very foundations of Islam the satanic verses, Mohammed according to all the great and ancient scholars of Islam (Al Tabari, Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Saad, Waqidi, Bukhari, and many more) preached that Allat, Manat and Al Uzza pagan goddess could intercede on behalf of Allah and as soon as Mohammeds pagan enemies heard this they reconciled with him for a brief while and prostrated with him. But as soon as Mohammed revealed this revelation Jebreil (Gabriel) came down and told Mohammed that he had made a grave mistake and Mohammed now corrected his earlier revelation by condemning the polytheism of his people. Many Muslims will say this is a fake account but let's go to the Quran don't Muslims always bring us the challenge to produce something like the Quran well no need to because if this is a fabricated event then that means someone was able to conjure up a false Quranic Surah which would technically mean Allah lied since he said no one can make something like the Quran. So Muslims will either have to choose one of the following:
1. Mohammed said the satanic verses and Islam is false since it kind of destroys the whole concept of Tawheed in Islam.
2. Mohammed did not say this and this is fabricated and the Quran is false since Allah lied when he said no one can produce something like the Quran
So clearly we can conclude that an answer for this question will have be chosen from one of the following..
PS sorry for the long piece of writing tried to shorten it as much as possible.

[QuranSearchCom]

Actually, we investigated the satanic verses issue, and ironically, we found it to be in the Bible, not in the Glorious Quran:

www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_kong
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3095.msg15145.html#msg15145

Also, all of the books that you mentioned copied the story from Al-Tabari.  And the story was proven to be a fabrication inserted into Al-Tabari.



Books like the Quran?

You obviously don't even understand what Allah Almighty's Challenge is.  Read this:

www.answering-christianity.com/surah_like_it.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Al Masihi]

I'm not asking about the Bible I'm talking about the Quran. Ironically it shows how you try to deflect the question in order to spare yourself from answering by attacking the Bible. What if I was not Christian and I asked you this? Quran says bring a Surah like this if you say it's fabricated then people already did.

[AMuslimDude213]

Read the Links,they have refutations to all this.

[Al Masihi]

The links refute nothing nor have the answers the produce the Surah like it one try's to put words into the Quran and explain the challenge in a way that the author knows it's a contradictory challenge, the satanic verses link seems to pathetically rant on the Bible and seems to be poorly written, and the third one seems to be make up conspiracy theories about zionists and Christians which I wouldn't bother reading.

[AMuslimDude213]

You've only read the first parts instead of going deeper and reading the actual arguments

This is the fallacy of hasty Generalization.

[Al Masihi]

Look through the link yourself and answer my claim. However don't try to change what the Quran says, produce a Surah like it.

[QuranSearchCom]

Al Masihi,

Religious texts existed before Islam and after Islam.  The Glorious Quran even says that your (Jews and Christians') texts had been corrupted:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

So producing a false quran is nothing new.  In the article in my previous post above, I even quoted this Noble Verse:

"Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against God, or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what God hath revealed"? If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - the angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against God, and scornfully to reject of His signs!"  (The Noble Quran, 6:93)"

So producing any hogwash text and calling it quran is not the Divine Challenge here, because any bozo can do it.  It is producing a Book like the Glorious Quran's Spiritual and Physical Miracles that truly attracted millions upon millions to Islam, and to prove Itself to be a truly a Divine Book from GOD Almighty, and not just any mere piece of literature.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Hayalilaydaa]

Al Masihi,

Religious texts existed before Islam and after Islam.  The Glorious Quran even says that your (Jews and Christians') texts had been corrupted:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

So producing a false quran is nothing new.  In the article in my previous post above, I even quoted this Noble Verse:

"Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against God, or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what God hath revealed"? If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - the angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against God, and scornfully to reject of His signs!"  (The Noble Quran, 6:93)"

So producing any hogwash text and calling it quran is not the Divine Challenge here, because any bozo can do it.  It is producing a Book like the Glorious Quran's Spiritual and Physical Miracles that truly attracted millions upon millions to Islam, and to prove Itself to be a truly a Divine Book from GOD Almighty, and not just any mere piece of literature.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

 
Brother this confused me rn, bc the hindus and the buddhist also have billion followers and it is a made up religion?

[QuranSearchCom]

But their books never proved themselves to be Divine Revelations.  These "religions" are earthly philosophies.  Islam is the Divine Religion of GOD Almighty, and GOD Almighty Said that His Glorious Quran is Miraculous, so much that it can not be matched by any man's writings.  This is also how Islam breaks out of the circular empty argument that false religions use to prove themselves.

I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Al Masihi]

The verse you provided doesn't imply the physical corruption of the Torah or Bible it just warns those who attempt to make their own books, i said bring me a verse which says the physical books are corrupted and no longer in original form. Infact no verse in the Quran does, unless you can bring me one which says the Torah and Bible are muharaf the arabic word for corrupted but strangely this word never appears in the Quran. You calling it hogwash doesn't change the fact it records a verse Mohammed supposedly said, scholars of the 7th and 8th century didn't deny this verse and even believed it at one point. Attracting millions to something means nothing even communists could do that. Hindus and Zoroastrians say the same about their books again it means nothing, Islam uses the same arguments and claims as any other religion, nothing special about it. Either way many people once believed and some still believe the satanic verses to be a real revelation Mohammed recited at one point. Quran says produce a Surah like it it doesn't give regulations on how the Surah should be.

[QuranSearchCom]

The verse you provided doesn't imply the physical corruption of the Torah or Bible it just warns those who attempt to make their own books, i said bring me a verse which says the physical books are corrupted and no longer in original form. Infact no verse in the Quran does, unless you can bring me one which says the Torah and Bible are muharaf the arabic word for corrupted but strangely this word never appears in the Quran.

What's ludicrous about your false trinity, and entire conjecture of christianity, is that you lie on both

1-  The Glorious Quran.
2-  Your ludicrous bible.

Let's get one thing straight from both the Glorious Quran and your bible.  There is no legitimate book called "Bible".  This is a christian lie that was invented in the 300s by Constantine's counsel of Nicaea in the city of Nicaea in modern day Turkey.

Now, as to what your corrupt bible, the Glorious Quran, and the Hadiths say about your bible's corruption, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/deuteronomy4_2.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/pauls_delusions.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/false_christs_shortly_after_jesus.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#paul
www.answering-christianity.com/bible_sinless_men.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links  (Praised X-Rated pornography in the bible)
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm  (What Islam says about your bible)

You calling it hogwash doesn't change the fact it records a verse Mohammed supposedly said, scholars of the 7th and 8th century didn't deny this verse and even believed it at one point.

Again, there is only one original source to the entire story, and it's in Tabari, and the story was proven to be a fabrication.  The early scholars didn't believe in it, nor was it popular at all.  Also, if your use your brain a little bit, you'll see that it doesn't make any sense for Muhammad to come and SMASH ALL IDOLS, insult them, spit on them, fight their worship, while bowing to them during his Prophethood?

This false story is discussed and exposed at:

www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm

Read the second link about how satan turned Jesus into King Kong and made him climb the top of the temple to commit suicide.  Of course, as a Muslim I doubt your gospel of porn's fabricated stories and accounts about Jesus and everything else.  He also made him:

1-  Be between satan and GOD for 40 days and 40 nights.

2-  Get so spiritually weak that GOD had to send down Angels to "attend him".

3-  Jesus "Suffered" from satan's temptation.

4-  Jesus had "evil desires" during the temptation.

5-  And your King Kong as a result coveted the world, when he said if your eye sins pluck it out, if your hand sins, cut it off, if your butt sins, cut it off, if your penis sins, cut it off, if your brain sins, you have already sinned.  Yet, he was coveting the kingdoms that satan showed him, and all of its belly dancing harlots. 



Masturbating King Kong?

Was your King Kong masturbating during the temptation?  Visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_kong
www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3095.msg15145.html#msg15145

Attracting millions to something means nothing even communists could do that. Hindus and Zoroastrians say the same about their books again it means nothing, Islam uses the same arguments and claims as any other religion, nothing special about it. Either way many people once believed and some still believe the satanic verses to be a real revelation Mohammed recited at one point.

Pull your head out of your butt and read what the Quran's Divine Challenge really is.  It's not just about attracting people.  I used that point to thoroughly prove that even the Arab's poetry and philosophy was soundly defeated when it challenged the Glorious Quran's Literature.  But this is only one aspect of the Challenge and the Miracle.  I talked about this in details above and at:

www.answering-christianity.com/surah_like_it.htm

Quran says produce a Surah like it it doesn't give regulations on how the Surah should be.

Again, visit www.answering-christianity.com/surah_like_it.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Al Masihi]

[QuranSearchCom]

[QuranSearchCom]

And did your King Kong masturbate? 

Answer my question above, or else I will ban you.  This question flushes down the toilet your religion's biggest lie about Jesus was perfect and sinless (to make the Creator of the Universe out of him), when your gospel of porn says:

1-  He was a drunkard.
2-  He was a glutinous person.
3-  He coveted the sinful things satan was tempting him on (and masturbated).


This is all despite the fact that your bible in many verses says: "Do not covet!".

Go read the verses from your NT at:  www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm

If your next post does not address this, you're out.  I already deleted your long spams on this blog.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah