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Ex-Muslims, a handful with lame excuses!
« on: July 02, 2020, 02:24:33 PM »
Apostasy, from the Greek apostasia, defection, designates the voluntary and public abandonment of a religion and is used as much for the various Christian denominations as for Judaism and Islam. For Judaism, apostasy today exists with a very particular connotation: tribal Judaism is not you leave it because apostasy is experienced as a betrayal towards the people, no doubt more than towards god him - even, the apostasy of a Jew constitutes a drama for an elected people.

In Catholic theology and canon law prior to the 1983 Code, apostasy was punished: Christian Europe in the Middle Ages quartered and burned its apostates. Today, the Church recognizes that who knowingly leaves religion freedom of conscience, but, de facto excluding himself from the ecclesial community in which he was baptized, the apostate no longer benefits from the sacraments of Church, funeral or sponsorship mission. The sanction of apostasy is therefore today excommunication (solemn exclusion from the Church).

For Islam, apostasy exists. It is characterized by the abandonment of belief in God, but it does not imply a questioning of the attachment to Muslim identity or culture, since they always remain ex: Muslims, all the more that Islam has no institution for controlling the religious beliefs of its followers. Apostasy is a gradual evil. It is first of all the abandonment of a received truth.

The ex-Muslims form a homogeneous group with all the same ideas to make their apostasy, a working tool which they exhibit on stage without any lucidity, nor deep reflection but pour into victimization !!!!

Apostasy most often arouses habits or attitudes due to sin or error. It infects not only thought, but all of life, to the point that salvation can only be spoken of with extreme caution.

However, some of the Christian critics consider the new ex: Muslims converted with suspicion, accusing them of seeking personal gain such as financial aid from Christian organizations working for charities.
Ah! Because it was better lived in apostasy !!

The questions of criticism of Islam and the freedom to detach from it are central to our Islamic visions, however the critical theory of ex: Muslims sees reality through the lens of the Church, one gets the impression, once again, that the criticism of Islam can only be a criticism necessarily collected by the church which instrumentalizes converts to lead an irresponsible campaign to denigrate Islam.

Christians could have stopped there. But they always have fun telling us stories of a number of ex-Muslims and their renunciation of Islam, as if to believe the stupidities of these misguided, but the fact that these ex-Muslims represent for Islam?

The reasons evoked by these ex Muslims, seems at first dictated by the religious of the church, namely:
Be convinced that Islam is not a true religion!!!!
Affirm loud and clear the supposed violence of the Koran!!!!!
Affirm loud and clear a persecution with a death threat!!!!
Affirm that you have met Jesus Christ to finally find eternal rest!!!
Claim to be saved by Jesus!!!!

The church which knew how to adapt its discourse and no longer attacks Muslims head on, but attacks Islam to claim and manage these intoxicants and theories which come to flatter the ex: Muslims, exacerbating the clichés in an excess of religiosity and societal testimonies.

Because imbecility becomes the majority that turns it into intelligence, because to reject your religion is to abandon part of yourself.

It proves what the case of these ex; Muslims?
Is there a contest somewhere?

Above all, it should be noted that it is enough to measure the quality of those who leave Islam without ever being true Muslims, and of those who return to Islam after a mature conviction supported by studies first, to note that the difference is significant.

So we call these cases of ex: Muslim become Christian after having met Jesus in a dream, or having received the Call of Christ (What all claim) after having lived many persecutions. Also after his conversion and his faith in Jesus Christ, he is saved!
In addition, Christians in their churches tend to mistrust these ex-Muslims, and more often than not they say to themselves;
Aren't they Christians like us?
I have never seen so many untruths in the altitude of ex: Muslims to put these shots end to end can only demonstrate a bad Islam when Islam is really something else: Happiness.

Someone said "if I'm right, let me be granted if I'm wrong, let me be proven;"

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Re: Ex-Muslims, a handful with lame excuses!
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2020, 02:27:13 PM »
Apostasy, from the Greek apostasia, defection, designates the voluntary and public abandonment of a religion and is used as much for the various Christian denominations as for Judaism and Islam. For Judaism, apostasy today exists with a very particular connotation: tribal Judaism is not you leave it because apostasy is experienced as a betrayal towards the people, no doubt more than towards god him - even, the apostasy of a Jew constitutes a drama for an elected people.

In Catholic theology and canon law prior to the 1983 Code, apostasy was punished: Christian Europe in the Middle Ages quartered and burned its apostates. Today, the Church recognizes that who knowingly leaves religion freedom of conscience, but, de facto excluding himself from the ecclesial community in which he was baptized, the apostate no longer benefits from the sacraments of Church, funeral or sponsorship mission. The sanction of apostasy is therefore today excommunication (solemn exclusion from the Church).

For Islam, apostasy exists. It is characterized by the abandonment of belief in God, but it does not imply a questioning of the attachment to Muslim identity or culture, since they always remain ex: Muslims, all the more that Islam has no institution for controlling the religious beliefs of its followers. Apostasy is a gradual evil. It is first of all the abandonment of a received truth.

The ex-Muslims form a homogeneous group with all the same ideas to make their apostasy, a working tool which they exhibit on stage without any lucidity, nor deep reflection but pour into victimization !!!!

Apostasy most often arouses habits or attitudes due to sin or error. It infects not only thought, but all of life, to the point that salvation can only be spoken of with extreme caution.

However, some of the Christian critics consider the new ex: Muslims converted with suspicion, accusing them of seeking personal gain such as financial aid from Christian organizations working for charities.
Ah! Because it was better lived in apostasy !!

The questions of criticism of Islam and the freedom to detach from it are central to our Islamic visions, however the critical theory of ex: Muslims sees reality through the lens of the Church, one gets the impression, once again, that the criticism of Islam can only be a criticism necessarily collected by the church which instrumentalizes converts to lead an irresponsible campaign to denigrate Islam.

Christians could have stopped there. But they always have fun telling us stories of a number of ex-Muslims and their renunciation of Islam, as if to believe the stupidities of these misguided, but the fact that these ex-Muslims represent for Islam?

The reasons evoked by these ex Muslims, seems at first dictated by the religious of the church, namely:
Be convinced that Islam is not a true religion!!!!
Affirm loud and clear the supposed violence of the Koran!!!!!
Affirm loud and clear a persecution with a death threat!!!!
Affirm that you have met Jesus Christ to finally find eternal rest!!!
Claim to be saved by Jesus!!!!

The church which knew how to adapt its discourse and no longer attacks Muslims head on, but attacks Islam to claim and manage these intoxicants and theories which come to flatter the ex: Muslims, exacerbating the clichés in an excess of religiosity and societal testimonies.

Because imbecility becomes the majority that turns it into intelligence, because to reject your religion is to abandon part of yourself.

It proves what the case of these ex; Muslims?
Is there a contest somewhere?

Above all, it should be noted that it is enough to measure the quality of those who leave Islam without ever being true Muslims, and of those who return to Islam after a mature conviction supported by studies first, to note that the difference is significant.

So we call these cases of ex: Muslim become Christian after having met Jesus in a dream, or having received the Call of Christ (What all claim) after having lived many persecutions. Also after his conversion and his faith in Jesus Christ, he is saved!
In addition, Christians in their churches tend to mistrust these ex-Muslims, and more often than not they say to themselves;
Aren't they Christians like us?
I have never seen so many untruths in the altitude of ex: Muslims to put these shots end to end can only demonstrate a bad Islam when Islam is really something else: Happiness.

Someone said "if I'm right, let me be granted if I'm wrong, let me be proven;"

 
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