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Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« on: February 05, 2013, 08:24:31 AM »
One note: The Qur'an doesn't say we descended from Adam.
Highlighted in blue are big bang theory verses, in red are evolutionary (abiogenesis) verses
 How?
Qur'an 32:7- And began the creation of man from [montmorillonite] clay
Qur'an 24:45 - Allah has created every [living] creature from water.
Qur'an 71:14 - He has created you in diverse and successive stages.
[Quran 41.11] Then He directed himself to the Heaven when it was [condensed in] smoke, and then said to it and to Earth: "Come willingly or by force" they said "We do come willingly"
[Quran 21.30] Do not those who disbelieve see that the heavens and the Earth were meshed together then We ripped them apart? And then We made of water everything living? Would they still not believe?
[Quran 51.47] And the heaven, We built it with craftsmanship and We are still expanding.
21:104 "The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat [universe going back to a singularity] it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it."
Note: This is based on the second law of thermodynamics.
The Qur'an: "Say: “Can any of your idols initiate creation, then revert it?” say “It is God who initiates the creation, and then reverts it. Then, how could you deviate?” (10:34)"
When a man becomes old he becomes just like a child, with age comes reversion and death.

Bonus, age of the universe and Earth:
 It told us the age of the Earth was one third the age of the universe. 4.53333333333 * 3 = 13.6. 13.6/13.75 = 98.91% accuracy.
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We see the Earth was created in two periods (youms):
Quran 41:9 "Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals?..."

...and the universe in six:
Your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then settled Himself firmly on the Throne... (Qur'an, 7:54)

How do we know that it's not talking about literally 6 days? Well because, we see throughout the entire Qur'an that time is relative.
God did not change the day's length, humans DEFINED it as 24 hours. But in the Qur'an, it's defined as a relative time period.
On that Day He will call you, and you will answer (His Call) with (words of) His Praise and Obedience, and you will think that you have stayed (in this world) but a little while! (Surat al-Isra, 52)

And on the Day when He shall gather them together, (it will seem to them) as if they had not tarried (on earth) longer than an hour of a day: they will recognise each other. (Surah Yunus, 45)

He will say: "What number of years did you stay on earth?" They will say: "We stayed a day or part of a day: but ask those who keep account." He will say: "You, stayed for only a little while – if you had only known!" (Surat al-Mumenoon, 112-114)

Yet they ask you to hasten on the Punishment! But Allah will not fail in His Promise. Truly, a day in the sight of your Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. (Surat al-Hajj, 47)

The angels and the spirit ascend to him in a day the measure of which is like fifty thousand years. (Surat al-Maarij, 4)

Then We drew (a veil) over their ears, for a number of years, in the Cave, (so that they could not hear). Then We wakened them up so that We might know which of the two parties would best calculate the time that they had tarried. (Surat al-Kahf, 11-12)

Such (being their state), we roused them (from sleep), so that they might question each other. Said one of them, "How long have you stayed (here)?" They said, "We have stayed (perhaps) a day, or part of a day." (At length) they (all) said, "Allah (alone) knows best how long you have stayed here.... (Surat al-Kahf, 19)

Or (take) the instance of one who passing by a hamlet, all in ruins and quite desolate, said: "Oh! how shall Allah (ever) bring it to life, now that it is dead?" Therefore, Allah caused him to die for a hundred years, then brought him back to life. Allah asked: "How long did you tarry (thus)?" He said: (Perhaps) a day or part of a day." He said: "No, you have tarried thus a hundred years; but look at your food and your drink; they show no signs of age; and look at your donkey: And so that We may make you a sign to the people, look further at the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh." When this was shown clearly to him, he said: "I know that Allah has power over all things." (Surat al-Baqara, 259)


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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 03:20:46 PM »
No, we did not evolve from similar ancestors or any bogus like that. We all are from Adam, we are all sons of Adam.  Btw, the word 'day' in Arabic is 'yawm' which means period too, so it can be classified as 6 periods too if that makes sense.
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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 09:03:50 AM »
No, we did not evolve from similar ancestors or any bogus like that. We all are from Adam, we are all sons of Adam.  Btw, the word 'day' in Arabic is 'yawm' which means period too, so it can be classified as 6 periods too if that makes sense.

Are you in opposition of evolution and the Big Bang?

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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 02:30:53 PM »
No, we did not evolve from similar ancestors or any bogus like that. We all are from Adam, we are all sons of Adam.  Btw, the word 'day' in Arabic is 'yawm' which means period too, so it can be classified as 6 periods too if that makes sense.

Are you in opposition of evolution and the Big Bang?
Us as humans evolving, yes.
Other beings having being evolved, Islam does not go against it neither support it.
The big bang - The universe and the earth being one unit and having a beginning supports the big bangtheory and is in the Qur'an, including the expansion of the universe. Why? what's up?

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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 02:47:56 PM »
No, we did not evolve from similar ancestors or any bogus like that. We all are from Adam, we are all sons of Adam.  Btw, the word 'day' in Arabic is 'yawm' which means period too, so it can be classified as 6 periods too if that makes sense.

Are you in opposition of evolution and the Big Bang?
Us as humans evolving, yes.
Other beings having being evolved, Islam does not go against it neither support it.
The big bang - The universe and the earth being one unit and having a beginning supports the big bangtheory and is in the Qur'an, including the expansion of the universe. Why? what's up?

You said we didn't have a common ancestor, then you said we all descended from Adam. It's called pwning yourself ;)

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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 03:44:44 PM »
No, we did not evolve from similar ancestors or any bogus like that. We all are from Adam, we are all sons of Adam.  Btw, the word 'day' in Arabic is 'yawm' which means period too, so it can be classified as 6 periods too if that makes sense.

Are you in opposition of evolution and the Big Bang?
Us as humans evolving, yes.
Other beings having being evolved, Islam does not go against it neither support it.
The big bang - The universe and the earth being one unit and having a beginning supports the big bangtheory and is in the Qur'an, including the expansion of the universe. Why? what's up?

You said we didn't have a common ancestor, then you said we all descended from Adam. It's called pwning yourself ;)

Its called you cant understand simple things like his statement.  :D

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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 03:55:29 PM »
How old is 'There is only one God'? Sigh..

I wrote, and I will repeat it for you, I wrote:
We did not 'EVOLVE' from a 'similar' ancestor.

We are all bani-Adam. (Sons of Adam).

End of story.


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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 10:29:58 PM »
All extant Homo sapiens sapiens most recent common ancestor can be traced to East Africa (modern day Ethiopia). There are people who misunderstand the use of the word 'theory' in these matters.

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A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment." Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force.

Islamic scientists understood evolution 1,000 years before Darwin was even born. The hypothesis goes back even further, to Aristotle, and Plato before him.

Since Darwin, the only people denying evolution are persons whom are misinformed.

The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model that describes the early development of the Universe.

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Re: Evolution and the Big bang verses from the Qur'an
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 01:38:20 AM »
All extant Homo sapiens sapiens most recent common ancestor can be traced to East Africa (modern day Ethiopia). There are people who misunderstand the use of the word 'theory' in these matters.

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A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment." Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force.

Islamic scientists understood evolution 1,000 years before Darwin was even born. The hypothesis goes back even further, to Aristotle, and Plato before him.

Since Darwin, the only people denying evolution are persons whom are misinformed.


The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model that describes the early development of the Universe.

Thank you!