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Pagan Christian Facists Want to Have a               

Totalitarian America



Before I found the true religion of Allah(SWT), Islam, I was raised a Roman Catholic by my family.  Even while I was raised a misguided Roman Catholic I couldn't help but look with DISGUST on the Pagan Evangelical LOONEY-TUNES (NOT all Evangelicals I mean CRAZY EVIL people like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc.) that UNFORUTNATELY control an ever growing amount of this nation.


At least the Pagan Roman Catholic are living in somewhat of a REALITY and can at the very least admit their Bible is CORRUPTED and the authors identities are ALL UNKNOWN







4-   The Roman Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the Bible had been "altered":

From brother Amir AbdulRahim; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:

The subject of Mankind's Corruption of the Bible has interested me greatly, and I have taken a closer look at this subject. Its seems it's not only your site that brings this subject up, but a couple of Christian sites too.

For example, an article in the Catholic Encyclopaedia that you mentioned in regard to the 'Theophilus' mentioned in Luke's Gospel (from your Just Who Are The Real Authors Of The Bible? article) testifies to this fact (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htm):


No book of ancient times has come down to us exactly as it left the hands of its author-- all have been in some way altered. The material conditions under which a book was spread before the invention of printing (1440), the little care of the copyists, correctors, and glossators for the text, so different from the desire of accuracy exhibited to-day, explain sufficiently the divergences we find between various manuscripts of the same work. To these causes may be added, in regard to the Scriptures, exegetical difficulties and dogmatical controversies. To exempt the sacred writings from ordinary conditions a very special providence would have been necessary, and it has not been the will of God to exercise this providence."

Lets just go through that again - "No book of ancient times has come down to us exactly as it left the hands of its author--all have been in some way altered."  All have been in some way altered! In view of this blatant admission, how can anyone expect me, or any muslim, to follow an impure book?

When you compare this to the great lengths taken to preserve the original Qur'an, there's no contest!

2-  Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible. (a big knock out!!):

To further prove my points above about how truly insignificant the bible's "divinity" to its theologians, and how they absolutely don't regard it as a Perfect Divine Book from GOD Almighty, the following article will further prove this once and for all!

The following article was sent to me by brother Jim Caale (Islamic name 'Zaid'); may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.


From http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html: (emphasis below are mine)

Note:  They even 'refuted' the "book of Revelations" altogether.  See the red part below.


The Times

October 05, 2005

By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.

The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect “total accuracy” from the Bible.

“We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision,” they say in The Gift of Scripture.

The document is timely, coming as it does amid the rise of the religious Right, in particular in the US.

Some Christians want a literal interpretation of the story of creation, as told in Genesis, taught alongside Darwin’s theory of evolution in schools, believing “intelligent design” to be an equally plausible theory of how the world began.

But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they say, they may contain “historical traces”.

The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system. Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible.

In the document, the bishops acknowledge their debt to biblical scholars. They say the Bible must be approached in the knowledge that it is “God’s word expressed in human language” and that proper acknowledgement should be given both to the word of God and its human dimensions.

They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways “appropriate to changing times, intelligible and attractive to our contemporaries”.

The Bible is true in passages relating to human salvation, they say, but continue: “We should not expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular matters.”

They go on to condemn fundamentalism for its “intransigent intolerance” and to warn of “significant dangers” involved in a fundamentalist approach.

Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when people of one nation or group see in the Bible a mandate for their own superiority, and even consider themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence against others.”

Of the notorious anti-Jewish curse in Matthew 27:25, “His blood be on us and on our children”, a passage used to justify centuries of anti-Semitism, the bishops say these and other words must never be used again as a pretext to treat Jewish people with contempt. Describing this passage as an example of dramatic exaggeration, the bishops say they have had “tragic consequences” in encouraging hatred and persecution. “The attitudes and language of first-century quarrels between Jews and Jewish Christians should never again be emulated in relations between Jews and Christians.”

As examples of passages not to be taken literally, the bishops cite the early chapters of Genesis, comparing them with early creation legends from other cultures, especially from the ancient East. The bishops say it is clear that the primary purpose of these chapters was to provide religious teaching and that they could not be described as historical writing.

Similarly, they refute the apocalyptic prophecies of Revelation, the last book of the Christian Bible, in which the writer describes the work of the risen Jesus, the death of the Beast and the wedding feast of Christ the Lamb.

The bishops say: “Such symbolic language must be respected for what it is, and is not to be interpreted literally. We should not expect to discover in this book details about the end of the world, about how many will be saved and about when the end will come.”

In their foreword to the teaching document, the two most senior Catholics of the land, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, and Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Archbishop of St Andrew’s and Edinburgh, explain its context.

They say people today are searching for what is worthwhile, what has real value, what can be trusted and what is really true.

The new teaching has been issued as part of the 40th anniversary celebrations of Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council document explaining the place of Scripture in revelation. In the past 40 years, Catholics have learnt more than ever before to cherish the Bible. “We have rediscovered the Bible as a precious treasure, both ancient and ever new.”

A Christian charity is sending a film about the Christmas story to every primary school in Britain after hearing of a young boy who asked his teacher why Mary and Joseph had named their baby after a swear word. The Breakout Trust raised £200,000 to make the 30-minute animated film, It’s a Boy. Steve Legg, head of the charity, said: “There are over 12 million children in the UK and only 756,000 of them go to church regularly.

That leaves a staggering number who are probably not receiving basic Christian teaching.”



Genesis ii, 21-22

So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man

Genesis iii, 16

God said to the woman [after she was beguiled by the serpent]: “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”

Matthew xxvii, 25

The words of the crowd: “His blood be on us and on our children.”

Revelation xix,20

And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.”



Exodus iii, 14

God reveals himself to Moses as: “I am who I am.”

Leviticus xxvi,12

“I will be your God, and you shall be my people.”

Exodus xx,1-17

The Ten Commandments

Matthew v,7

The Sermon on the Mount

Mark viii,29

Peter declares Jesus to be the Christ

Luke i

The Virgin Birth

John xx,28

Proof of bodily resurrection




3-  Conclusion:

There is no question that the corruption of the bible is the number one reason, and perhaps the only reason, why its ministers commit rape and homosexuality by the mass.  They have no faith and no solid book to follow and to be guided by.  They know they are the ones who dictate what goes in it and what gets removed from it, just as the "fathers" before them did.  You can't expect from such people to not fall as victims into sin when they have a corrupt book that is completely worthless and helpless to them, and deep inside, they don't regard it any more than a history book.

I hope you see this point clearly because their exposed sins, like I mentioned above, serve as a living testimony that the Bible is a worthless and is a corrupt book.   Therefore, embrace Islam, the Divine Religion of the Absolute One and Only GOD Almighty and associate no partners (Jesus, idols, humans, etc...) with Him, and you will be saved.  Otherwise, you will continue to believe in doubts and man-made lies.


Going back to my main point, Pagan Evangelical christians are DETACHED from reality and one of the main reasons for America's INSANE foreign policy and growing domestic problems.

The chief foreign policy situation these Pagan Evangelicals NEGATIVELY influence is the Palestinian/Israeli situation.  Lunatics like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc. take a force like American diplomacy and turn it in to a COMPLETELY biased Pro-Israel EVIL Doing.  The reasons these Pagan Evangelical lunatics do this is simple

1) They believe that all Jews (American, European, Russian, or otherwise) must reside in the land of Palestine.

2) They want to in their words "cleanse" the Holy Land of Arabs, the reason for U.S. government back Zionist genocide of Palestinians.  After this these Pagan Evangelical Christian Evildoers want to help their Israeli Zionist counterparts to rebuild the Temple of Solomon(PBUH).

3) In their demonic "rebuilding" of the Temple of Solomon(PBUH) these Pagan Evangelical Christians want to help their Evil Zionist counterparts destroy the Holy Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock

Image:Al aqsa moschee 2.jpgThis is the Holy Al-Aqsa Mosque.



This is the Holy Dome of the Rock.  The Zionist Israelis want to confuse the Muslim Ummah by making us and others around the world believe this Beautiful Gold Domed building is Al-Aqsa Mosque, so then they can destroy and damage the REAL Al-Aqsa Mosque and we won't even comprehend or realize the TRUTH!!!!  Both Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock are SACRED and we as the Muslim Ummah must NEVER allow ANYONE to destroy or even damage these SACRED shrines (these Holy Sites are worth more than ANYTHING in this temporary world) Again the First Grayish Domed Mosque is Al-Aqsa Mosque.  Again this IS Al-Aqsa Mosque






Image:Al aqsa moschee 2.jpg



4) In attempting their devilish deeds these Pagan Evangelical believe that they will FORCE! Prophet Jesus(PBUH) to return to earth, kill all the Jews who don't convert to Pagan Christianity, and "rapture" the Pagan Trinitarian Christians to Heaven.  So basically these Pagan Trinitarian Evangelical Christian Extremists believe they can in a Sense FORCE God's hand!!!!


And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." (Holy Qur'an 2:111, Abdullah Yusufali Translation)


Unfortunately the Zionist Israelis who devilishly seek to destroy the Holy Masjid Al-Aqsa are not only struggling against the Truth but they have NO need to struggle at all as the website www.jewsforallah.org tells us:


Link: http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/Temple-Mount-restored-by-Muhammad.htm


Masjid ul Aqsa is the reconstructed Third Temple

  One of the highest aspirations of _today's_ Israeli government is to build the "Third Temple" (the third renovation of Solomon's temple which has been destroyed twice before in history), there is only one issue,  the House of prayer "Masjid-ul-Aqsa" now stands in the same exact location.

First Temple in 960 BC, Solomon is believed to have erected it to house the Ark of the Covenant which his father, David, had brought to Jerusalem. The temple was burned to the ground by the Babylonians in 586 BC.

The Second Temple was consecrated in 515 BC, rebuilt by Herod in 20 BC and destroyed by Titus in 70 AD. 

The Byzantine Christians used the area as a dump and it was in this state that a Muslim, Caliph Omar Ibn al-Khattab, found it. In 638 AD. he ordered the place cleaned and built a House of Prayers at the southern end of the sanctuary, the apparent Third Temple " Masjid-ul-Aqsa".

 Masjid-ul-Aqsa was completed by Amir Abd ul Malik in 647 AD.

With these observations in mind, the question is , has another sect of Jews co-orchestrated the Job of building the Third Temple ? *Jews for Allah* . It is well documented that Israelis along side their ancestral brothers, the Arabs, participated in the construction of Masjid-ul-Aqsa.

For example, Ka'ab al-Ahbar, a Yemenite Jew who converted to Islam was a co-engineer in the construction. [Al-Tabari, The History of al-Tabari, Vol XII]

Furthermore, it would have been impossible to clean the area containing decades of Byzantine litter and build this Holy Temple in only 10 years (no electricity), without the cooperation and assistance of the thousands of Jews in Jerusalem.  

 The inhabitants of Israel left the Temple of Solomon a pile of rubble and garbage for almost (Six Hundred Years, nearly 10 generations of Israelis) 70 AD -to-  647 AD, until it was finally beautifully restored by the unity of Jews and ancestral brothers of Jews, the Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more").

Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") do not claim to worship a different God than the Jewish God, in fact, just the opposite, Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") declare they worship the God of Abraham, hence the Masjid-ul-Aqsa is in fact the restoration of the Temple Mount by direct descendants of Prophet Abraham.

What's more, during one of the Crusades, the Crusaders thought the Masjid-ul-Aqsa was Solomon's temple and put a cross on it! If they had known that it was a Muslim temple, they would have torn it down, but it still stands. 

Further proof that Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") have rebuilt the Temple Mount is that there are no idols in the current place of worship, there are no pictures, the prayers are preformed the way Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more").html">Jews used to pray, and the prayers are made directly to the Creator of Abraham with no intercessors.

The Jews do not have to mourn or drop another tear, the Modern Temple has also been rebuilt to include inscriptions to counter the Trinity of Christianity from our Holy Site:

the New Temple Mount was an answer to and a denial of the attractions of Christianity and its Scriptures, providing the Faithful with arguments to be used against Christian theology. The inscriptions are seven hundred and thirty-four feet long in all, amongst the lengthiest inscriptions in the world. 

The inscriptions are as follows:

Inner Face: South Wall. In the name of God the Merciful the Compassionate. There is no God but God alone; he has no co-partner. He is the Kingship and His the praise. He giveth life and He causeth to die, and He hath power over everything.

South-East Wall. Verily God and His angels pronounce blessing upon the Prophet. O ye who have pronounced blessings upon Him and give Him the salutation of peace. O, People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and Christians, always referred to as such by the Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") -Ed.) do not go beyond the bounds in your religion and do not say about Allah anything but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, is a messenger of God and His word which he cast upon Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe only in God and of his messenger, but do not say "Three" (Trinity) and it will be better for you. God is only one God. Far be it from His glory that he should have a son.

North Wall. The Messiah will not deny to be in the service of God nor will the angels who stand in his presence. O God; pray upon Thy messenger "the servant Jesus - (N-W Wall) the son of Mary and peace be upon him the day of his birth, the day of his death and the day of his being raised alive." That is Jesus, son of Mary - a statement concerning which YOU are in doubt. It is not for God to take for Himself any offspring, glory be to Him.

West Wall. God bears witness that there is no God but Him, likewise the angels and the people possessed of knowledge (S-W WALL) - Upholding justice. There is no God but He, the Almighty and All wise. Verily, the religion in God's sight is Islam.

Outer Face: West and North-West Walls. In the name of God the Merciful and Compassionate. There is no God but God alone. Praise be to God who hath not taken to himself offspring. To Him there has never been any person in the sovereignty. Mohammed is the messenger of God, may God pray upon Him and accept his intercession.

Praise be God who has not taken unto himself a son and who has no partner in sovereignty nor has He any protector on account of weakness.

Islam has a History of Restoring ancient Temples and preserving current Houses of Worship as taught in Islam:

In the time of the caliph 'Umar, certain Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") had usurped a piece of land belonging to a Jew, and had constructed a mosque on the site. Learning the news, the caliph ordered the demolition of the mosque and the restoration of the land to the Jews.

There are currently thousands of Jews and hundreds of Synagogues in Muslim countries, dating over a 1,000 years old and Preserved in tact to this day, including the dozens of Temples kept in tact in Israel for the past millennium and a half while Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") were responsible for Israel, if they were in ruble as the Romans had left the Temple Mount, the Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") would have restored them to houses of worship as was done to the Temple of Solomon.

According to M S M Saifullah, Another Temple restored in history is one built by Prophet Abraham, the Ka'bah:

These are just two of Temples we observe to be restored, we conclude that a further study needs to be set forth to discover other Temples of God brought back to life by the children of Abraham, Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more").

In Conclusion, attempts to destroy the Masjid ul Aqsa to (re~re-build another House of Worship is not an act of God, but rather an act of pride, egotism, and nationalism, and would severely polarize the nearly 1.5 Billion Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") with the other children of Abraham. Rather than plotting against Masjid ul Aqsa, Jews need to be thankful to God for sending our ancestral brothers to restore the ancient Temples, which laid in ruins for centuries under Israeli control.

Link: http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Why-Believe-in-Allah/Temple-Mount-restored-by-Muhammad.htm


Again while these Pagan Evangelicals work with their cohorts like the Evildoer Bush and coward Olmert they make sure that NO peace process will ever occur.  The best solution to the Palestinian/Israeli problem is simply for ALL TRUE Palestinians be they Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), Jews, or Christians to live in the NATION of Palestine.  But as we all know the Zionists bring in people from America, Russia, Europe, and literally EVERY corner of the global.  People who have no right to occupy the land of Palestine, thus this Zionist usurpers STEAL the land of REAL Palestinians by residing in Settlements the International Community RECOGNIZES as CLEARLY ILLEGAL and CLEARLY the land of the True Palestinian people.

(From: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-genocide-palestinian-apartheidlaws-lossofpalestinianland1946to2000.html)


View disturbing pictures of U.S. supported Zionist Israeli carnage inflicted on Palestinian civilians:



These Pagan Evangelical Zionist Christians obviously are in deep with the Evildoer President Bush and thus are supporters of Bush and his Zionist Israeli cohorts much of the brutal U.S. foreign policies thus can be laid at these Evangelicals doorstep.  Among these are the war in Iraq, attack on Somalia, continued Zionist slaughter of and LAND THEFT! from the defenseless Palestinians, U.S./Western backed Zionist Israeli slaughter and destruction of the civilians of Lebanon, The Nuclear superpowers America and Israel's continued threatening and possible attack on Iran for simply having a nuclear energy program that does comply with IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) rules: Note Israel won't even admit it has Nukes; we all know they DO! and Israel didn't even sign the IAEA treaty and is ONE of the most FLAGRANT violators of International law.  Continued U.S./Western support for repressive dictatorial governments throughout the world chiefly; Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan, and many others.


These Pagan Evangelicals also threaten the vary fabric of free and democratic America.  I think all of us can agree we enjoy having all the freedoms we have in this nation.  Whether we disagree with crazy, devilish foreign policy that doesn't mean this nation doesn't have many good people and have many great Truly Islamic principles like freedom of religion

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (Holy Qur'an 2:256, Abdullah Yusufali Translation)


Unfortunately, these Pagan Evangelical Fascists like Pat Robertson (see: https://www.answering-christianity.com/brain_damage_by_trinity.htm), Jerry Falwell, the fallen homosexual Ted Haggard (see: https://www.answering-christianity.com/Anonymous muslim/fraud_on_haggard_and_hinn.htm

And many others like James Dobson, and groups like the Chrisitan (Pagan) Coalition have infiltrated even the highest levels of American government and seek to turn American into their Psychopathic dream of a Pagan Trinitarian state that represses free thought, freedom of belief, dissent, discussion, differences, and the like.





Thankfully a thoughtful writer like Chris Hedges is bring this essential debate out in to the open.


Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Fascists:_The_Christian_Right_and_the_War_on_America


American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America

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American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America is a non-fiction book by American author Chris Hedges, released in January 2007.

Hedges is a former seminary student with a Master's Degree in Divinity from Harvard and was a long-time foreign correspondent for The New York Times. He had previously criticized the Christian right in articles such as his cover story in the May 2005 issue of Harpers' magazine called 'Soldiers of Christ'.

Hedges' title comes from a prediction by his Harvard ethics professor, James Luther Adams, who 25 years earlier had warned his students that they would all be fighting the "Christian fascists".[1] Hedges argues that this prediction has come true in that extreme forms of American Christianity now share many features with totalitarian movements, including suppression of individuality, a belief in magic, a shifting ideology, a "binary" good-or-evil view of the world, and a deep intolerance of people outside the movement. He writes that "Christian radicals" are often so consumed with power and wealth that their practice is no longer following "Christianity" in the traditional sense, as a religion focused on compassion and caring for the downtrodden.

He contrasts the fundamentalist understanding with that of his own, in which the Bible is recognized to have some contradictory, and even hateful passages, and scientifically, is limited to what people knew at the time. "Genesis was not written to explain the process of creation, of which these writers knew nothing (Me: Thankfully at least he admits the ANONYMOUS book of Genesis is a FAIRY TALE and is NOT historical in any way!). It was written to help explain the purpose of creation....to help us grasp a spiritual truth, not a scientific or historical fact....Doubt and belief are not, as biblical literalists claim, incompatible. Those who act without any doubt are frightening."[2]

Hedges believes many of the followers are vulnerable victims of what he calls "The Culture of despair" resulting from dislocation and an economic disparity that has hit the American working class especially hard. In some parts of the country, Hedges writes, radical churches offer people a sense of belonging that was once found in the greater community. New converts are surrounded by new friends, but also live under a rigid of set rules that require unquestioning submission.

The book describes some of the places and events of the Christian right, including the 50,000-square foot Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky; a Love Won Out conference in Boston sponsored by Focus on the Family; the National Religious Broadcasters annual convention in Anaheim; and Trinity Broadcasting Network's lavish headquarters in Costa Mesa, California.

"The radical Christian Right calls for exclusion, cruelty and intolerance in the name of God," Hedges writes in his concluding chapter. "Its members do not commit evil for evil's sake. They commit evil to make a better world. To attain this better world, they believe, some must suffer and be silenced and destroyed. The worst suffering in human history has been carried out by those who preach such grand, utopian visions, those who seek to implant by force their narrow, particular version of goodness. This is true for all doctrines of personal salvation, from Christianity to ethnic nationalism to communism to fascism. Dreams of a universal good create hells of persecution, suffering and slaughter." [3]


[edit] Criticism

Rick Perlstein of the New York Times writes "Of course there are Christian fascists in America. How else to describe, say, the administrator of a faith-based drug treatment program who bound and beat a resident, then subjected her to 32 straight hours of recorded sermons?" Perlstein believes that this book, however, "is not a worthy attempt ... [Hedges] writes on this subject as a neophyte, and pads out his dispatches with ungrounded theorizing, unconvincing speculation and examples that fall far short of bearing out his thesis ... Hedges is worst when he makes the supposed imminence of mass violence the reason the rest of us should be fighting for the open society."[4]

Joe Bailey of the Oregon Daily Emerald wrote that Hedges "confuses political activism with totalitarian violence. ... Like all Americans, conservative Christians have the right to pursue their political objectives through peaceful and democratic means. Which is precisely what they have done. Despite the peaceful and democratic nature of their activism, Hedges attacks conservative Christians with the nastiest of slurs, revealing a frightening ignorance. ... The old guard of the Christian Right is stuck in the culture war mentality that originated in the 1960s. When liberals like Hedges adopt a similar culture war mentality, they only fortify the divide and lend ammunition to their adversaries."[5]

Publishers Weekly wrote of the book: "As a Harvard Divinity School graduate, his investigation of the Christian Right agenda is even more alarming given its lucidity. Citing the psychology and sociology of fascism and cults, including the work of German historian Fritz Stern, Hedges draws striking parallels between 20th-century totalitarian movements and the highly organized, well-funded "dominionist movement," an influential theocratic sect within the country's huge evangelical population. Rooted in a radical Calvinism, and wrapping its apocalyptic, vehemently militant, sexist and homophobic vision in patriotic and religious rhetoric, dominionism seeks absolute power in a Christian state. Hedges's reportage profiles both former members and true believers, evoking the particular characteristics of this American variant of fascism. His argument against what he sees as a democratic society's suicidal tolerance for intolerant movements has its own paradoxes. But this urgent book forcefully illuminates what many across the political spectrum will recognize as a serious and growing threat to the very concept and practice of an open society." [6]

[edit] References

^ American Fascists page 194

^ American Fascists page 8

^ American Fascists page 205

^ Perlstein, Rick, Christian Empire New York Times, 2007-01-07, Retrieved on 2007-01-21

^ Bailey, Joe, Keeping the culture war alive University of Oregon Daily Emerald, 2007-01-17, Retrieved on 2007-01-21

^ Publishers Weekly Book Review Publishers Weekly, 2006-11-13, Retrieved on 2007-01-21


From:  http://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-Christian-Right-America/dp/0743284437/sr=8-1/qid=1170582265/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0407641-7707910?ie=UTF8&s=books

Book Description
Twenty-five years ago, when Pat Robertson and other radio and televangelists first spoke of the United States becoming a Christian nation that would build a global Christian empire, it was hard to take such hyperbolic rhetoric seriously. Today, such language no longer sounds like hyperbole but poses, instead, a very real threat to our freedom and our way of life. In American Fascists, Chris Hedges, veteran journalist and author of the National Book Award finalist War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, challenges the Christian Right's religious legitimacy and argues that at its core it is a mass movement fueled by unbridled nationalism and a hatred for the open society.

Hedges, who grew up in rural parishes in upstate New York where his father was a Presbyterian pastor, attacks the movement as someone steeped in the Bible and Christian tradition. He points to the hundreds of senators and members of Congress who have earned between 80 and 100 percent approval ratings from the three most influential Christian Right advocacy groups as one of many signs that the movement is burrowing deep inside the American government to subvert it. The movement's call to dismantle the wall between church and state and the intolerance it preaches against all who do not conform to its warped vision of a Christian America are pumped into tens of millions of American homes through Christian television and radio stations, as well as reinforced through the curriculum in Christian schools. The movement's yearning for apocalyptic violence and its assault on dispassionate, intellectual inquiry are laying the foundation for a new, frightening America.

American Fascists, which includes interviews and coverage of events such as pro-life rallies and weeklong classes on conversion techniques, examines the movement's origins, its driving motivations and its dark ideological underpinnings. Hedges argues that the movement currently resembles the young fascist movements in Italy and Germany in the 1920s and '30s, movements that often masked the full extent of their drive for totalitarianism and were willing to make concessions until they achieved unrivaled power. The Christian Right, like these early fascist movements, does not openly call for dictatorship, nor does it use

physical violence to suppress opposition. In short, the movement is not yet revolutionary. But the ideological architecture of a Christian fascism is being cemented in place. The movement has roused its followers to a fever pitch of despair and fury. All it will take, Hedges writes, is one more national crisis on the order of September 11 for the Christian Right to make a concerted drive to destroy American democracy. The movement awaits a crisis. At that moment they will reveal themselves for what they truly are -- the American heirs to fascism. Hedges issues a potent, impassioned warning. We face an imminent threat. His book reminds us of the dangers liberal, democratic societies face when they tolerate the intolerant.


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In a Word: Scary, February 3, 2007


H. F CORBIN (ATLANTA, GA USA) - See all my reviews

I first heard about this book when Bob Edwards interviewed Chris Hedges on NPR, something that says volumes as Republican members of congress have tried for years to curtain if not silence public radio. Mr. Hedges, who along with other reporters from "The New York Times," won the 2002 Pulitzer Prize for their coverage of global terrorism, dares to use the "F" word here as it relates to the Christian Right and its attempts to take over our government, creating an oligarchy. We have read before much of what Mr. Hedges covers here-- Christian radio and television, Timothy LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins' enormously popular LEFT BEHIND novels about the Rapture, etc., the Christian Right's inroads into all areas of politics from the local school board to the U. S. Congress, Senate and Presidency, the teaching of Creationism in our public schools, the demonization of gays, Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), liberals, immigrants, pro-choice advocates, et al. To see the Religious Right's plans all laid out so well by Mr. Hedges is devastating beyond words. It is useless he says to attempt debate with these people or to try to change them as they are intent on destroying everyone who does not think as they do. He does exhort all Americans who care about diversity to "give up passivity, to challenge aggressively this movement's deluded appropriation of Christianity and to do everything possible to defend tolerance."

Some of what I learned from this fine book-- the scariest: In THE INSTITUTES OF BIBLILCAL LAW, written in 1973, which according to Mr. Hedges is the most important book for this radical Christian movement known as dominionism, its author R. J. Rushdoony advocates the death penalty for rape, kidnapping and murder, but also for adultery, blasphemy, homosexuality, astrology, incest, striking a parent, incorrigible juvenile delinquency and, "in the case of women, unchastity before marriage."

The most bizarre: that the "50,000-square foot Creation Museum" in Petersburg, Kentucky has a scale model of Noah's ark, "which shows how dinosaurs fit into the three levels of the vessel, along with other species such as horses, giraffes, hippopotamuses, penguins and bears." These pseudo-scientists get around the obvious problem of how these huge dinosaurs could fit inside an ark by saying that "'perhaps God sent young adults into the ark that still had plenty of room for them to grow.'" Enough said.

The funniest-- even for such a serious book: that one can visit the Gold, Frankencense and Myrrh gift shop, as well as the Heavenly Bistro, at the Costa Mesa Trinity Broadcasting Network headquarters. Graceland never looked so good.

AMERICAN FASCISTS should be required reading for all of us who believe in democracy and diversity.



In closing I hope you see the Threat posed by Violent Fascist Evangelical Zionist Trinitarian Pagan Christians.  To be CLEAR once again I am NOT saying all Christians or even all Evangelical Christians are like the insane leaders Robertson, Dobson, Falwell, Haggard, etc.  Also as a Muslim I see people who claim to be following Islam but are truly following their own whims and desires.  Also it is clear that violent groups try to say they are fighting in the cause of Islam, but we True Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more"), 99.9999% of the Muslim Ummah stand up for the Truth that Islam is a Religion of Peace, Tolerance, and We as Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") do NOT want to force you to convert to our religion!  Allah(SWT) even says in the Holy Qur'an "There is NO Complusion in Religion".  I as a Muslim stand up and defend the True Religion of Allah(SWT) but I do NOT try to force my will or belief system on others, again Allah(SWT) states in his Holy Qur'an "There is NO Complusion in Religion"  However, in America today groups like the Christian (Pagan) Coalition and people like Robertson have MASSIVE followings and they are indoctrinating more of their Pagan Evangelical flock into attempting to create a Fascist state that will do away with the Bill of Rights and Such.  This article is a message to the American Pagan Christians who attack Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") saying Extremists in our religion our attempting to hurt you; We'll I have a MESSAGE for you Christians your LOONEY-TUNES like Robertson, Falwell, etc. want to harm Me, My Muslim brothers and sisters, all American people, and eventually the world so just as I and all True followers of Islam denounce the .00000001% of extremists that claim our faith, I call on all true Christians to denounce the dangerous demagogues that make up the Extremist Pagan Evangelical Zionist Christian movement in America.


Terrorism in Islam?! (click here)
Let's look at the real terrorism in the Bible:

Pedophilia with
3-year old slave girls in the Bible!
Forcing 3-year old slave girls into sex during the Mosaic Law in the Bible! (click here)

Terror in the Bible by a number of Prophets! (click here)

Pregnant women will be ripped open! (click here)

The NT punishes children with death! (click here)

Terrorism: "kill all the boys and non-virgin women"!
Also under the Mosaic Law!
(click here)

Another killing all men, women, children and animals by Moses! (click here)

Another taking all women and children as spoils of war by Moses! (click here)

Moses was a murderer before he became a Prophet! (click here)

Killing all of the "suckling infants" by the thousands by Saul! (click here)

Dashing little children against rocks in the book of Psalm!
Praising the dashing of little children against rocks as a form of revenge! (click here)

42 innocent children were killed using Wild Bears by Prophet Elisha!
Prophet Muhammad on the other hand loved children even those who threw stones at him in the city of Al-Ta'if. (click here)

Both equal: "Kill Righteous and the wicked"! (click here)

Maiming of the enemies' bodies under Moses' and David's Laws:
Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their alive bodies on trees until they DIE. (click here)

David's Selective Murders!
David so carelessly killed an innocent man for only telling him news.
(click here)

X-Rated Pornography in the Bible, by King Solomon!
Literally, women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", and brothers can "suck" their sisters' and lovers' privates! (click here)

Fathers' fingers into their daughters' vaginas!
Under the Mosaic Law, fathers were allowed to do "Digital Defloration" to their daughters.
(click here)

Shutting the loud mouths of those who unjustly attack Islam, with Truth.

Jesus didn’t kill anyone, oh really?


Debunking another Christian myth


By muslim1





One of the most common claim made by Christians is that Jesus never killed anybody. They often always bring this up against Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more") as if to show that the prophet Muhammad was a bad person because he killed people. Before refuting the myth that Jesus never killed anyone, we must also expose the Christian double standard and the Christian weak line of argument. If Jesus is great, and the prophet Muhammad is bad because he killed people, then so is Moses, and so is David. 


The OT shows us a lot of battles that both Moses and David took part in, and both these men killed a lot of people, including women and children. Yet when we show this to Christians, they simply ignore it, or try to justify it. Yet what is most inconsistent about this is that if the prophet Muhammad kills people in battle or war, the Christian goes mad and starts screaming out 'false prophet! Such inconsistency from the Christian only exposes the Christian's deceptive character, and shows that these Christians dont have no holy spirit in them.


Now let us go back to the main topic, which is refuting the Christian propaganda lie that Jesus never killed anyone. As you all know, Christians always make the claim that Jesus is God, they claim that Jesus is the same God of the OT. So basically what we have is this:


1- Jesus is God


2- Jesus is the God of the Old Testement


3- Christians believe that the OT is the inspired word of God


4- The OT is authentic to the Christian


5- The God in the OT is Jesus


So since Jesus is the God of the OT, we shall now look at the God of the OT ordering the KILLINGS of many people:


Zephaniah 2:12-15


Zephaniah 2:12-15

"You Ethiopians will also be slaughtered by my sword," says the LORD. And the LORD will strike the lands of the north with his fist. He will destroy Assyria and make its great capital, Nineveh, a desolate wasteland, parched like a desert. The city that once was so proud will become a pasture for sheep and cattle. All sorts of wild animals will settle there. Owls of many kinds will live among the ruins of its palaces, hooting from the gaping windows. Rubble will block all the doorways, and the cedar paneling will lie open to the wind and weather. This is the fate of that boisterous city, once so secure. "In all the world there is no city as great as I," it boasted. But now, look how it has become an utter ruin, a place where animals live! Everyone passing that way will laugh in derision or shake a defiant fist


Ezekiel 9:5-7

"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."


Matthew henry's Biblical commentary writes this on Ezekial 9:5-7 :


. A command given to the destroyers to do execution according to their commission. They stood by the brazen altar, waiting for orders; and orders are here given them to cut off and destroy all that were either guilty of, or accessory to, the abominations of Jerusalem, and that did not sigh and cry for them. Note, When God has gathered his wheat into his garner nothing remains but to burn up the chaff, Matthew 3:12 http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=mt+3:12&t=kjv.


1. They are ordered to destroy all, (1.) Without exception. They must go through the city, and smite; they must slay utterly, slay to destruction, give them their death's wound. They must make no distinction of age or sex, but cut off old and young; neither the beauty of the virgins, nor the innocency of the babes, shall secure them. This was fulfilled in the death of multitudes by famine and pestilence, especially by the sword of the Chaldeans, as far as the military execution went. Sometimes even such bloody work as this has been God's work. But what an evil thing is sin, then, which provokes the God of infinite mercy to such severity! (2.) Without compassion: "Let not your eye spare, neither have you pity (Ezekiel 9:5 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:5&t=kjv> ); you must not save any whom God has doomed to destruction, as Saul did Agag and the Amalekites, for that is doing the work of God deceitfully, Jeremiah 48:10 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=jer+48:10&t=kjv> . None need to be more merciful than God is; and he had said (Ezekiel 8:18 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+8:18&t=kjv> ), My eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity." Note, Those that live in sin, and hate to be reformed, will perish in sin, and deserve not to be pitied; for they might easily have prevented the ruin, and would not.


2. They are warned not to do the least hurt to those that were marked for salvation: "Come not near any man upon whom is the mark; do not so much as threaten or frighten any of them; it is promised them that there shall no evil come nigh them, and therefore you must keep at a distance from them." The king of Babylon gave particular orders that Jeremiah should be protected. Baruch and Ebed-melech were secured, and, it is likely, others of Jeremiah's friends, for his sake. God had promised that it should go well with his remnant and they should be well treated (Jeremiah 15:11 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=jer+15:11&t=kjv> ); and we have reason to think that none of the mourning praying remnant fell by the sword of the Chaldeans, but that God found out some way or other to secure them all, as, in the last destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans, the Christians were all secured in a city called Pella, and none of them perished with the unbelieving Jews. Note, None of those shall be lost whom God has marked for life and salvation; for the foundation of God stands sure.


3. They are directed to begin at the sanctuary (Ezekiel 9:6 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:6&t=kjv> ), that sanctuary which, in the chapter before, he had seen the horrid profanation of; they must begin there because there the wickedness began which provoked God to send these judgments. The debaucheries of the priests were the poisoning of the springs, to which all the corruption of the streams was owing. The wickedness of the sanctuary was of all wickedness the most offensive to God, and therefore there the slaughter must begin: "Begin there, to try if the people will take warning by the judgments of God upon their priests, and will repent and reform; begin there, that all the world may see and know that the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God, and hates sin most in those that are nearest to him." Note, When judgments are abroad they commonly begin at the House of GOD, 1 Peter 4:17 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=1pe+4:17&t=kjv> . You only have I known, and therefore I will punish you, Amos 3:2 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=am+3:2&t=kjv> . God's temple is a sanctuary, a refuge and protection for penitent sinners, but not for any that go on still in their trespasses; neither the sacredness of the place nor the eminency of their place in it will be their security. It should seem the destroyers made some difficulty of putting men to death in the temple, but God bids them not to hesitate at that, but (Ezekiel 9:7 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:7&t=kjv> ), Defile the house, and fill the courts with slain. They will not be taken from the altar (as was appointed by the law, Exodus 21:14 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=ex+21:14&t=kjv> ), but think to secure themselves by keeping hold of the horns of it, like Joab, and therefore, like him, let them die there, 1 Kings 2:30,31 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=1ki+2:30,31&t=kjv> . There the blood of one of God's prophets had been shed (Matthew 23:35 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=mt+23:35&t=kjv> ) and therefore let their blood be shed. Note, If the servants of God's house defile it with their idolatries, God will justly suffer the enemies of it to defile it with their violences, Psalms 79:1 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=ps+79:1&t=kjv> . But these acts of necessary justice were really, whatever they were ceremonially, rather a purification than a pollution of the sanctuary; it was putting away evil from among them. 4. They are appointed to go forth into the city, Ezekiel 9:6,7 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:6,7&t=kjv> . Note, Wherever sin has gone before judgement will follow after; and, though judgement begins at the house of God, yet it shall not end there. The holy city shall be no more a protection to the wicked people then the holy house was to the wicked priests.

II. Here is execution done accordingly. They observed their orders, and, 1. They began at the elders, the ancient men that were before the house, and slew them first, either those seventy ancients who worshipped idols in their chambers (Ezekiel 8:12 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+8:12&t=kjv> ) or those twenty-five who worshipped the sun between the porch and the altar, who might more properly be said to be before the house. Note, Ringleaders in sin may expect to be first met with by the judgments of God; and the sins of those who are in the most eminent and public stations call for the most exemplary punishments. 2. They proceeded to the common people: They went forth and slew in the city; for, when the decree has gone forth, there shall be no delay; if God begin, he will make an end.


These are just 2 examples the God in the OT ordering the death and destruction of the people. In fact the verses are very explicit; the God of the OT is making it clear that it is HIS SWORD which shall slay the people.

So since Jesus is God, and is the God of the OT, this means that it was Jesus who ordered these killings and it was Jesus who killed all these people! Hence the Christian myth is DEBUNKED. Jesus did kill, and Jesus ordered the killings of women and children, the fact that Christians claim that Jesus never killed anyone is a plane intentional lie by the Christians. We must ask why would the Christians make such a blatant lie? And it also leaves us with another question, which is what else do the Christians lie about? What other myths and propaganda do they create on their made up faith? We can only guess, but no doubt each lie will get caught and exposed.




Link: http://www.usislam.org/christianity/atonement.htm#20

Atonement Theory

Source: http://www.themodernreligion.com/comparative/christ/christ_foa.htm

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Crusades (1095-1291)



Religious Wars


Native Peoples

More Glorious events in US history

20th Century Church Atrocities



Serbs claim they are going directly to Heaven, this is based on the teachings of Paul who wrote Jesus' blood cleansed all past, present, and future sins [even as they kill and rape innocent people on Easter].

We witnessed over the centuries the negative effects of this theory of atonement as we witness it's ungodly effects today.

With these Christians under the assumption that they are saved on faith alone regardless of their horrid actions, in the case of the Serbs [rape, genocide, looting], you have atrocities repeating themselves through out history, with it's root in the Christian atonement theory.

Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete)



·  Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]

·  Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]

·  Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]

·  15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]
16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde". Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225]


Crusades (1095-1291)

·  First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]

·  Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/96 thousands. [WW23]

·  9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27]

·  Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30]

·  after 6/3/98 Antiochia (then Turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents - save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]

·  Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]

·  Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (Jewish, Muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40]
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude")

·  The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79]

·  Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]

·  Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]

·  Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]

·  Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224]

Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.




·  Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]

·  Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]

·  Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians (cathars = Christians allegedly that have all rarely sucked) viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-Nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Beziérs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]

·  Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181]

·  subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated. [WW183]

·  After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324. [WW183]

·  Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone), [WW183]

·  Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World).

·  Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28]

·  John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415. [LI475-522]

·  University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna. [DO59]

·  Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on 2/17/1600.



·  from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several thousand.

·  in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV]

·  incomplete list of documented cases: The Burning of Witches - A Chronicle of the Burning Times


Religious Wars

·  15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]

·  1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all English as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into action). [DO31]

·  1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in (then Spanish) Netherlands. Thousands were actually slain. [DO31]

·  1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31]

·  17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head, his hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but] then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they hauled it out again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of Montfaulcon, 'to be meat and carrion for maggots and crows'." [SH191]

·  17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers." [SH191]

·  17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32]




·  Already in the 4th and 5th centuries synagogues were burned by Christians. Number of Jews slain unknown.

·  In the middle of the fourth century the first synagogue was destroyed on command of bishop Innocentius of Dertona in Northern Italy. The first synagogue known to have been burned down was near the river Euphrat, on command of the bishop of Kallinikon in the year 388. [DA450]

·  17. Council of Toledo 694: Jews were enslaved, their property confiscated, and their children forcibly baptized. [DA454]

·  The Bishop of Limoges (France) in 1010 had the cities' Jews, who would not convert to Christianity, expelled or killed. [DA453]

·  First Crusade: Thousands of Jews slaughtered 1096, maybe 12.000 total. Places: Worms 5/18/1096, Mainz 5/27/1096 (1100 persons), Cologne, Neuss, Altenahr, Wevelinghoven, Xanten, Moers, Dortmund, Kerpen, Trier, Metz, Regensburg, Prag and others (All locations Germany except Metz/France, Prag/Czech) [EJ]

·  Second Crusade: 1147. Several hundred Jews were slain in Ham, Sully, Carentan, and Rameru (all locations in France). [WW57]

·  Third Crusade: English Jewish communities sacked 1189/90. [DO40]

·  Fulda/Germany 1235: 34 Jewish men and women slain. [DO41]

·  1257, 1267: Jewish communities of London, Canterbury, Northampton, Lincoln, Cambridge, and others exterminated. [DO41]

·  1290 in Bohemian (Poland) allegedly 10,000 Jews killed. [DO41]

·  1337 Starting in Deggendorf/Germany a Jew-killing craze reaches 51 towns in Bavaria, Austria, Poland. [DO41]

·  1348 All Jews of Basel/Switzerland and Strasbourg/France (two thousand) burned. [DO41]

·  1349 In more than 350 towns in Germany all Jews murdered, mostly burned alive (in this one year more Jews were killed than Christians in 200 years of ancient Roman persecution of Christians). [DO42]

·  1389 In Prag 3,000 Jews were slaughtered. [DO42]

·  1391 Seville's Jews killed (Archbishop Martinez leading). 4,000 were slain, 25,000 sold as slaves. [DA454] Their identification was made easy by the brightly colored "badges of shame" that all jews above the age of ten had been forced to wear.

·  1492: In the year Columbus set sail to conquer a New World, more than 150,000 Jews were expelled from Spain, many died on their way: 6/30/1492. [MM470-476]

·  1648 Chmielnitzki massacres: In Poland about 200,000 Jews were slain. [DO43]

(I feel sick ...) this goes on and on, century after century, right into the kilns of Auschwitz.



Native Peoples

·  Beginning with Columbus (a former slave trader and would-be Holy Crusader) the conquest of the New World began, as usual understood as a means to propagate Christianity.

·  Within hours of landfall on the first inhabited island he encountered in the Caribbean, Columbus seized and carried off six native people who, he said, "ought to be good servants ... [and] would easily be made Christians, because it seemed to me that they belonged to no religion." [SH200]
While Columbus described the Indians as "idolators" and "slaves, as many as [the Crown] shall order," his pal Michele de Cuneo, Italian nobleman, referred to the natives as "beasts" because "they eat when they are hungry," and made love "openly whenever they feel like it." [SH204-205]

·  On every island he set foot on, Columbus planted a cross, "making the declarations that are required" - the requerimiento - to claim the ownership for his Catholic patrons in Spain. And "nobody objected." If the Indians refused or delayed their acceptance (or understanding), the requerimiento continued:

"I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter in your country and shall make war against you ... and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church ... and shall do you all mischief that we can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse to receive their lord and resist and contradict him." [SH66]

    • Likewise in the words of John Winthrop, first governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony: "justifieinge the undertakeres of the intended Plantation in New England ... to carry the Gospell into those parts of the world, ... and to raise a Bulworke against the kingdome of the Ante-Christ." [SH235]
    • In average two thirds of the native population were killed by colonist-imported smallpox before violence began. This was a great sign of "the marvelous goodness and providence of God" to the Christians of course, e.g. the Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony wrote in 1634, as "for the natives, they are near all dead of the smallpox, so as the Lord hath cleared our title to what we possess." [SH109,238]
    • On Hispaniola alone, on Columbus visits, the native population (Arawak), a rather harmless and happy people living on an island of abundant natural resources, a literal paradise, soon mourned 50,000 dead. [SH204]
    • The surviving Indians fell victim to rape, murder, enslavement and spanish raids.
    • As one of the culprits wrote: "So many Indians died that they could not be counted, all through the land the Indians lay dead everywhere. The stench was very great and pestiferous." [SH69]
    • The indian chief Hatuey fled with his people but was captured and burned alive. As "they were tying him to the stake a Franciscan friar urged him to take Jesus to his heart so that his soul might go to heaven, rather than descend into hell. Hatuey replied that if heaven was where the Christians went, he would rather go to hell." [SH70]
    • What happened to his people was described by an eyewitness:
      "The Spaniards found pleasure in inventing all kinds of odd cruelties ... They built a long gibbet, long enough for the toes to touch the ground to prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time in honor of Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles... then, straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive." [SH72]
      Or, on another occasion:
      "The Spaniards cut off the arm of one, the leg or hip of another, and from some their heads at one stroke, like butchers cutting up beef and mutton for market. Six hundred, including the cacique, were thus slain like brute beasts...Vasco [de Balboa] ordered forty of them to be torn to pieces by dogs." [SH83]
    • The "island's population of about eight million people at the time of Columbus's arrival in 1492 already had declined by a third to a half before the year 1496 was out." Eventually all the island's natives were exterminated, so the Spaniards were "forced" to import slaves from other caribbean islands, who soon suffered the same fate. Thus "the Caribbean's millions of native people [were] thereby effectively liquidated in barely a quarter of a century". [SH72-73] "In less than the normal lifetime of a single human being, an entire culture of millions of people, thousands of years resident in their homeland, had been exterminated." [SH75]
    • "And then the Spanish turned their attention to the mainland of Mexico and Central America. The slaughter had barely begun. The exquisite city of Tenochtitlán [Mexico city] was next." [SH75]
    • Cortez, Pizarro, De Soto and hundreds of other spanish conquistadors likewise sacked southern and mesoamerican civilizations in the name of Christ (De Soto also sacked Florida).
    • "When the 16th century ended, some 200,000 Spaniards had moved to the Americas. By that time probably more than 60,000,000 natives were dead." [SH95]


Of course no different were the founders of what today is the US of AmeriKKKa.

    • Although none of the settlers would have survived winter without native help, they soon set out to expel and exterminate the Indians. Warfare among (north American) Indians was rather harmless, in comparison to European standards, and was meant to avenge insults rather than conquer land. In the words of some of the pilgrim fathers: "Their Warres are farre less bloody...", so that there usually was "no great slawter of nether side". Indeed, "they might fight seven yeares and not kill seven men." What is more, the Indians usually spared women and children. [SH111]
    • In the spring of 1612 some English colonists found life among the (generally friendly and generous) natives attractive enough to leave Jamestown - "being idell ... did runne away unto the Indians," - to live among them (that probably solved a sex problem).
      "Governor Thomas Dale had them hunted down and executed: 'Some he apointed (sic) to be hanged Some burned Some to be broken upon wheles, others to be staked and some shott to deathe'." [SH105] Of course these elegant measures were restricted for fellow englishmen: "This was the treatment for those who wished to act like Indians. For those who had no choice in the matter, because they were the native people of Virginia" methods were different: "when an Indian was accused by an Englishman of stealing a cup and failing to return it, the English response was to attack the natives in force, burning the entire community" down. [SH105]
    • On the territory that is now Massachusetts the founding fathers of the colonies were committing genocide, in what has become known as the "Peqout War". The killers were New England Puritan Christians, refugees from persecution in their own home country England.
    • When however, a dead colonist was found, apparently killed by Narragansett Indians, the Puritan colonists wanted revenge. Despite the Indian chief's pledge they attacked.
      Somehow they seem to have lost the idea of what they were after, because when they were greeted by Pequot Indians (long-time foes of the Narragansetts) the troops nevertheless made war on the Pequots and burned their villages.
      The puritan commander-in-charge John Mason after one massacre wrote: "And indeed such a dreadful Terror did the Almighty let fall upon their Spirits, that they would fly from us and run into the very Flames, where many of them perished ... God was above them, who laughed his Enemies and the Enemies of his People to Scorn, making them as a fiery Oven ... Thus did the Lord judge among the Heathen, filling the Place with dead Bodies": men, women, children. [SH113-114]
    • So "the Lord was pleased to smite our Enemies in the hinder Parts, and to give us their land for an inheritance". [SH111].
    • Because of his readers' assumed knowledge of Deuteronomy, there was no need for Mason to quote the words that immediately follow:
      "Thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them..." (Deut 20)
    • Mason's comrade Underhill recalled how "great and doleful was the bloody sight to the view of the young soldiers" yet reassured his readers that "sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children must perish with their parents". [SH114]
    • Other Indians were killed in successful plots of poisoning. The colonists even had dogs especially trained to kill Indians and to devour children from their mothers breasts, in the colonists' own words: "blood Hounds to draw after them, and Mastives to seaze them." (This was inspired by Spanish methods of the time)
      In this way they continued until the extermination of the Pequots was near. [SH107-119]
    • The surviving handful of Indians "were parceled out to live in servitude. John Endicott and his pastor wrote to the governor asking for 'a share' of the captives, specifically 'a young woman or girle and a boy if you thinke good'." [SH115]
    • Other tribes were to follow the same path.
    • Comment the Christian exterminators: "God's Will, which will at last give us cause to say: How Great is His Goodness! and How Great is his Beauty!"
      "Thus doth the Lord Jesus make them to bow before him, and to lick the Dust!" [TA]
    • Like today, lying was OK to Christians then. "Peace treaties were signed with every intention to violate them: when the Indians 'grow secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the Council of State in Virginia, 'we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, & cutt downe theire Corne'." [SH106]
    • In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless Indian men, women and children. [SH107]
    • In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some "600 Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered pastor of the Second Church in Boston, later referred to the slaughter as a 'barbeque'." [SH115]
    • To summarize: Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than half a century later about 250 remained alive - a destruction rate of 98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years later they were down to 920 - 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about 30,000, fifty years later they were down to 1500 - 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were alive - 81% destroyed. [SH118] These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes living before Christian colonists set their foot on the New World. All this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had occurred. And the carnage was not over then.
    • All the above was only the beginning of the European colonization, it was before the frontier age actually had begun.
    • A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas) were destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds by smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed directly by violence, bad treatment and slavery.
    • In many countries, such as Brazil, and Guatemala, this continues even today.



More Glorious events in US history

    • Reverend Solomon Stoddard, one of New England's most esteemed religious leaders, in "1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts Governor that the colonists be given the financial wherewithal to purchase and train large packs of dogs 'to hunt Indians as they do bears'." [SH241]
    • Massacre of Sand Creek, Colorado 11/29/1864. Colonel John Chivington, a former Methodist minister and still elder in the church ("I long to be wading in gore") had a Cheyenne village of about 600, mostly women and children, gunned down despite the chiefs' waving with a white flag: 400-500 killed.
      From an eye-witness account: "There were some thirty or forty squaws collected in a hole for protection; they sent out a little girl about six years old with a white flag on a stick; she had not proceeded but a few steps when she was shot and killed. All the squaws in that hole were afterwards killed ..." [SH131]
    • By the 1860s, "in Hawai'i the Reverend Rufus Anderson surveyed the carnage that by then had reduced those islands' native population by 90 percent or more, and he declined to see it as tragedy; the expected total die-off of the Hawaiian population was only natural, this missionary said, somewhat equivalent to 'the amputation of diseased members of the body'." [SH244]


20th Century Church Atrocities

    • Catholic extermination camps: Surprisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveliç, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!

      In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian Serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]

    • Catholic terror in Vietnam: In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-Buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]

Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.
The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:

"Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."


Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].

To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life.

    • Christianity kills the cat: On July 1, 1976, Anneliese Michel, a 23-year-old student of a teachers college in Germany, died: she starved herself to death. For months she had been haunted by demonic visions and apparitions, and for months two Catholic priests - with explicit approval of the Catholic bishop of Würzburg - additionally pestered and tormented the wretched girl with their exorcist rituals. After her death in Klingenberg hospital - her body was littered with wounds - her parents, both of them fanatical Catholics, were sentenced to six months for not having called for medical help. None of the priests was punished: on the contrary, Miss Michel's grave today is a place of pilgrimage and worship for a number of similarly faithful Catholics (in the seventeenth century Würzburg was notorious for it's extensive witch burnings).

      This case is only the tip of an iceberg of such evil superstition and has become known only because of its lethal outcome. [SP80]

    • Rwanda Massacres: In 1994 in the small African country of Rwanda in just a few months several hundred thousand civilians were butchered, apparently a conflict of the Hutu and Tutsi ethnic groups.
      For quite some time I heard only rumours about Catholic clergy actively involved in the 1994 Rwanda massacres. Odd denials of involvement were printed in Catholic church journals, before even anybody had openly accused members of the church.

      Then, 10/10/96, in the newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany - a station not at all critical to Christianity - the following was stated:


"Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a certain Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in Rwanda's capital Kigali for months. He was minister of the church of the Holy Family and allegedly murdered Tutsis in the most brutal manner. He is reported to have accompanied marauding Hutu militia with a gun in his cowl. In fact there has been a bloody slaughter of Tutsis seeking shelter in his parish. Even two years after the massacres many Catholics refuse to set foot on the threshold of their church, because to them the participation of a certain part of the clergy in the slaughter is well established. There is almost no church in Rwanda that has not seen refugees - women, children, old - being brutally butchered facing the crucifix.
According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned them over to the machetes of the Hutu militia.

In connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns are mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the meantime to avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them called the Hutu killers and led them to several thousand people who had sought shelter in her monastery. By force the doomed were driven out of the churchyard and were murdered in the presence of the nun right in front of the gate. The other one is also reported to have directly cooperated with the murderers of the Hutu militia. In her case again witnesses report that she watched the slaughtering of people in cold blood and without showing response. She is even accused of having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on fire and burn their victims alive..." [S2]





K.Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn, Stuttgart 1962.


K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.


P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.


S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.


H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages, New York 1961.


M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.


A.Manhattan, The Vatican's Holocaust, Springfield 1986.
See also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Buffalo NY, 1992.


J.T.Noonan, Contraception: A History of its Treatment by the Catholic Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.


Newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany, 10/10/96, 12:00.


D.Stannard, American Holocaust, Oxford University Press 1992.


German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49, 12/2/1996.


A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have Hapned in the Warre Between the English and the Indians in New England, London 1676.


F.Turner, Beyond Geography, New York 1980.


H.Wollschläger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zürich 1973.
(This is in german and what is worse, it is out of print. But it is the best I ever read about crusades and includes a full list of original medieval Christian chroniclers' writings).


Estimates on the number of executed witches:
N.Cohn, Europe's Inner Demons: An Enquiry Inspired by the Great Witch Hunt, Frogmore 1976, 253.
R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology, New York 1959, 180.
J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.
H.Zwetsloot, Friedrich Spee und die Hexenprozesse, Trier 1954, 56.


We have today the Christian Serbs, yesterday we had the Christian Nazis, before that the Christian colonists, the Chrsitian crusaders, on and on, all believed their cold blooded murders will not effect their entrance directly into heaven.

I believe these Christians never read the Bible, I believe they only followed false teachings of their church without ever reading what Christ who was sent by God stated regarding Salvation, which in summary states; "If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15)

 Here we see these Christians are disgusted with Jesus; "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:38-39)

These Christians do not turn the other cheek to their enemies [innocent young girls] , instead the these Christians [today the Serbs] grab these girls by the cheeks and _rape_ them, and steal their innocence.

Jesus offered a kind method of atonement by stating; "forgive, and ye shall be forgiven" (Luke 6:37) and "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses." (Mark 11:25-26)

Rather than the Christians obeying the advise of Jesus, for every one Christian, ten innocent children are killed by the by these church followers.

These Christians obviously do the opposite of what the Messiah taught; "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." (Matthew 5:43-45)

These Christians give the true meaning of [anti-Christ] fore they do the reverse of what Jesus teaches .

These Christian , are dragging Christianity to a new low in the History of Christian Atrocities.

These Christians Hate Jesus more than any group of people world wide because they openly, publicly and proudly spit on the commandments of Jesus; "Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal" (Matthew 19:18)

In conclusion, Christ whispered gently; "If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15)

Unfortunately, due to Paul, who wrote 75% of the current Gospel, not Jesus, the current Gospel can and is debated by over a billion to mean you can be saved by faith alone, despite the rape and murder you commit, historically showing the flaw of the Christian [Paulian] atonement theory.

Link: http://www.usislam.org/christianity/atonement.htm#20








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