By: Anonymous Muslim
Pagan Christian Facists Want to Have a
Before I found the true religion of Allah(SWT), Islam, I was raised a Roman Catholic by my family. Even while I was raised a misguided Roman Catholic I couldn't help but look with DISGUST on the Pagan Evangelical LOONEY-TUNES (NOT all Evangelicals I mean CRAZY EVIL people like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc.) that UNFORUTNATELY control an ever growing amount of this nation.
At least the Pagan Roman Catholic are living in somewhat of a REALITY and can at the very least admit their Bible is CORRUPTED and the authors identities are ALL UNKNOWN
4- The Roman Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the Bible had been "altered":
From brother Amir AbdulRahim; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
The subject of Mankind's Corruption of the Bible has interested me greatly, and I have taken a closer look at this subject. Its seems it's not only your site that brings this subject up, but a couple of Christian sites too.
For example, an article in the Catholic Encyclopaedia that you mentioned in
regard to the 'Theophilus' mentioned in Luke's Gospel (from your Just Who Are
The Real Authors Of The Bible? article) testifies to this fact (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htm):
"IV. TRANSMISSION OF THE TEXT
No book of ancient times has come down to us exactly as it left the hands of its author-- all have been in some way altered. The material conditions under which a book was spread before the invention of printing (1440), the little care of the copyists, correctors, and glossators for the text, so different from the desire of accuracy exhibited to-day, explain sufficiently the divergences we find between various manuscripts of the same work. To these causes may be added, in regard to the Scriptures, exegetical difficulties and dogmatical controversies. To exempt the sacred writings from ordinary conditions a very special providence would have been necessary, and it has not been the will of God to exercise this providence."
Lets just go through that again - "No book of ancient times has come down to us exactly as it left the hands of its author--all have been in some way altered." All have been in some way altered! In view of this blatant admission, how can anyone expect me, or any muslim, to follow an impure book?
When you compare this to the great lengths taken to preserve the original Qur'an, there's no contest!
2- Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible. (a big knock out!!):
To further prove my points above about how truly insignificant the bible's "divinity" to its theologians, and how they absolutely don't regard it as a Perfect Divine Book from GOD Almighty, the following article will further prove this once and for all!
The following article was sent to me by brother Jim Caale (Islamic name 'Zaid'); may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
From http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html: (emphasis below are mine)
Note: They even 'refuted' the "book of Revelations" altogether. See the red part below.
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.
The Catholic bishops of
“We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision,” they say in The Gift of Scripture.
The document is timely, coming as it does amid the rise of the religious
Right, in particular in the
Some Christians want a literal interpretation of the story of creation, as
told in Genesis, taught alongside
But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they say, they may contain “historical traces”.
The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system. Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible.
In the document, the bishops acknowledge their debt to biblical scholars. They say the Bible must be approached in the knowledge that it is “God’s word expressed in human language” and that proper acknowledgement should be given both to the word of God and its human dimensions.
They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways “appropriate to changing times, intelligible and attractive to our contemporaries”.
The Bible is true in passages relating to human salvation, they say, but continue: “We should not expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular matters.”
They go on to condemn fundamentalism for its “intransigent intolerance” and to warn of “significant dangers” involved in a fundamentalist approach.
“Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when people of one nation or group see in the Bible a mandate for their own superiority, and even consider themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence against others.”
Of the notorious anti-Jewish curse in Matthew 27:25, “His blood be on us and on our children”, a passage used to justify centuries of anti-Semitism, the bishops say these and other words must never be used again as a pretext to treat Jewish people with contempt. Describing this passage as an example of dramatic exaggeration, the bishops say they have had “tragic consequences” in encouraging hatred and persecution. “The attitudes and language of first-century quarrels between Jews and Jewish Christians should never again be emulated in relations between Jews and Christians.”
As examples of passages not to be taken literally, the bishops cite the early chapters of Genesis, comparing them with early creation legends from other cultures, especially from the ancient East. The bishops say it is clear that the primary purpose of these chapters was to provide religious teaching and that they could not be described as historical writing.
Similarly, they refute the apocalyptic prophecies of Revelation, the last book of the Christian Bible, in which the writer describes the work of the risen Jesus, the death of the Beast and the wedding feast of Christ the Lamb.
The bishops say: “Such symbolic language must be respected for what it is, and is not to be interpreted literally. We should not expect to discover in this book details about the end of the world, about how many will be saved and about when the end will come.”
In their foreword to the teaching document, the two most senior Catholics of the land, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, and Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Archbishop of St Andrew’s and Edinburgh, explain its context.
They say people today are searching for what is worthwhile, what has real value, what can be trusted and what is really true.
The new teaching has been issued as part of the 40th anniversary celebrations of Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council document explaining the place of Scripture in revelation. In the past 40 years, Catholics have learnt more than ever before to cherish the Bible. “We have rediscovered the Bible as a precious treasure, both ancient and ever new.”
A Christian charity is sending a film about the Christmas story to every
primary school in Britain after hearing of a young boy who asked his teacher
why Mary and Joseph had named their baby after a swear word. The Breakout Trust
raised £200,000 to make the 30-minute animated film, It’s a Boy. Steve
Legg, head of the charity, said: “There are over 12 million children in the
That leaves a staggering number who are probably not receiving basic Christian teaching.”
BELIEVE IT OR NOT
Genesis ii, 21-22
So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man
Genesis iii, 16
God said to the woman [after she was beguiled by the serpent]: “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.”
Matthew xxvii, 25
The words of the crowd: “His blood be on us and on our children.”
And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.”
Exodus iii, 14
God reveals himself to Moses as: “I am who I am.”
“I will be your God, and you shall be my people.”
The Ten Commandments
The Sermon on the Mount
Peter declares Jesus to be the Christ
The Virgin Birth
Proof of bodily resurrection
JOIN THE DEBATE
There is no question that the corruption of the bible is the number one reason, and perhaps the only reason, why its ministers commit rape and homosexuality by the mass. They have no faith and no solid book to follow and to be guided by. They know they are the ones who dictate what goes in it and what gets removed from it, just as the "fathers" before them did. You can't expect from such people to not fall as victims into sin when they have a corrupt book that is completely worthless and helpless to them, and deep inside, they don't regard it any more than a history book.
I hope you see this point clearly because their exposed sins, like I mentioned above, serve as a living testimony that the Bible is a worthless and is a corrupt book. Therefore, embrace Islam, the Divine Religion of the Absolute One and Only GOD Almighty and associate no partners (Jesus, idols, humans, etc...) with Him, and you will be saved. Otherwise, you will continue to believe in doubts and man-made lies.
Going back to my main point, Pagan
Evangelical christians are DETACHED from reality and
one of the main reasons for
The chief foreign policy situation these Pagan Evangelicals NEGATIVELY influence is the Palestinian/Israeli situation. Lunatics like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc. take a force like American diplomacy and turn it in to a COMPLETELY biased Pro-Israel EVIL Doing. The reasons these Pagan Evangelical lunatics do this is simple
1) They believe that all Jews (American,
European, Russian, or otherwise) must reside in the
2) They want to in their words
"cleanse" the Holy Land of Arabs, the reason for
3) In their demonic "rebuilding" of the Temple of Solomon(PBUH) these Pagan Evangelical Christians want to help their Evil Zionist counterparts destroy the Holy Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock
This is the Holy Dome of the Rock. The Zionist Israelis want to confuse the Muslim Ummah by making us and others around the world believe this Beautiful Gold Domed building is Al-Aqsa Mosque, so then they can destroy and damage the REAL Al-Aqsa Mosque and we won't even comprehend or realize the TRUTH!!!! Both Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock are SACRED and we as the Muslim Ummah must NEVER allow ANYONE to destroy or even damage these SACRED shrines (these Holy Sites are worth more than ANYTHING in this temporary world) Again the First Grayish Domed Mosque is Al-Aqsa Mosque. Again this IS Al-Aqsa Mosque
4) In attempting their devilish deeds these Pagan Evangelical believe that they will FORCE! Prophet Jesus(PBUH) to return to earth, kill all the Jews who don't convert to Pagan Christianity, and "rapture" the Pagan Trinitarian Christians to Heaven. So basically these Pagan Trinitarian Evangelical Christian Extremists believe they can in a Sense FORCE God's hand!!!!
And they say: "None shall enter
Unfortunately the Zionist Israelis who devilishly seek to destroy the Holy Masjid Al-Aqsa are not only struggling against the Truth but they have NO need to struggle at all as the website www.jewsforallah.org tells us:
ul Aqsa is the reconstructed
One of the highest aspirations of _today's_ Israeli government is to build the "Third Temple" (the third renovation of Solomon's temple which has been destroyed twice before in history), there is only one issue, the House of prayer "Masjid-ul-Aqsa" now stands in the same exact location.
First Temple in 960 BC, Solomon is believed to have erected it to
house the Ark of the Covenant which his father, David, had brought to
The Byzantine Christians used the area
as a dump and it was in this state that a Muslim, Caliph Omar Ibn al-Khattab,
found it. In 638 AD. he
ordered the place cleaned and built a House of Prayers at the southern end of
the sanctuary, the apparent
Masjid-ul-Aqsa was completed by Amir Abd ul Malik in 647 AD.
With these observations in mind, the question
is , has another sect
of Jews co-orchestrated the Job of building the
For example, Ka'ab al-Ahbar, a Yemenite Jew who converted to Islam was a co-engineer in the construction. [Al-Tabari, The History of al-Tabari, Vol XII]
Furthermore, it would have been impossible to
clean the area containing decades of Byzantine litter and build this
The inhabitants of Israel left the Temple of Solomon a pile of rubble and garbage for almost (Six Hundred Years, nearly 10 generations of Israelis) 70 AD -to- 647 AD, until it was finally beautifully restored by the unity of Jews and ancestral brothers of Jews, the Muslims.
Muslims do not claim to worship a different God than the Jewish God, in fact, just the opposite, Muslims declare they worship the God of Abraham, hence the Masjid-ul-Aqsa is in fact the restoration of the Temple Mount by direct descendants of Prophet Abraham.
What's more, during one of the Crusades, the Crusaders thought the Masjid-ul-Aqsa was Solomon's temple and put a cross on it! If they had known that it was a Muslim temple, they would have torn it down, but it still stands.
Further proof that Muslims have rebuilt the
The Jews do not have to mourn or drop another
the New Temple Mount was an answer to and a denial of the
attractions of Christianity and its Scriptures, providing the Faithful with
arguments to be used against Christian theology. The inscriptions are seven
hundred and thirty-four feet long in all, amongst the lengthiest inscriptions
in the world.
The inscriptions are as follows:
Inner Face: South Wall. In the name of God the Merciful the
Compassionate. There is no God but God alone; he has no co-partner. He
is the Kingship and His the praise. He giveth life and
He causeth to die, and He hath power over everything.
South-East Wall. Verily God and His angels pronounce blessing upon the Prophet. O ye who have pronounced blessings upon Him and give Him the salutation of peace. O, People of the Book (i.e. the Jews and Christians, always referred to as such by the Muslims -Ed.) do not go beyond the bounds in your religion and do not say about Allah anything but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, is a messenger of God and His word which he cast upon Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe only in God and of his messenger, but do not say "Three" (Trinity) and it will be better for you. God is only one God. Far be it from His glory that he should have a son.
North Wall. The Messiah will not deny to be in the service of God nor will the angels who stand in his presence. O God; pray upon Thy messenger "the servant Jesus - (N-W Wall) the son of Mary and peace be upon him the day of his birth, the day of his death and the day of his being raised alive." That is Jesus, son of Mary - a statement concerning which YOU are in doubt. It is not for God to take for Himself any offspring, glory be to Him.
West Wall. God bears witness that there is no God but Him, likewise the angels and the people possessed of knowledge (S-W WALL) - Upholding justice. There is no God but He, the Almighty and All wise. Verily, the religion in God's sight is Islam.
Outer Face: West and North-West Walls. In the name of God the Merciful and Compassionate. There is no God but God alone. Praise be to God who hath not taken to himself offspring. To Him there has never been any person in the sovereignty. Mohammed is the messenger of God, may God pray upon Him and accept his intercession.
Praise be God who has not taken unto himself a son and who has no partner in sovereignty nor has He any protector on account of weakness.
Islam has a History of Restoring ancient
In the time of the caliph 'Umar, certain Muslims had usurped a piece of land belonging to a Jew, and had constructed a mosque on the site. Learning the news, the caliph ordered the demolition of the mosque and the restoration of the land to the Jews.
There are currently thousands of Jews and hundreds of Synagogues in Muslim countries, dating over a 1,000 years old and Preserved in tact to this day, including the dozens of Temples kept in tact in Israel for the past millennium and a half while Muslims were responsible for Israel, if they were in ruble as the Romans had left the Temple Mount, the Muslims would have restored them to houses of worship as was done to the Temple of Solomon.
According to M S M Saifullah, Another Temple restored in history is one built by Prophet Abraham, the Ka'bah:
These are just two of
In Conclusion, attempts to destroy
the Masjid ul Aqsa to (re~re-build another House of Worship is not an act of
God, but rather an act of pride, egotism, and nationalism, and would severely
polarize the nearly 1.5 Billion Muslims with the other children of Abraham.
Rather than plotting against Masjid ul Aqsa, Jews need to be thankful to God
for sending our ancestral brothers to restore the ancient
Again while these Pagan Evangelicals work
with their cohorts like the Evildoer Bush and coward Olmert they make sure that
NO peace process will ever occur. The
best solution to the Palestinian/Israeli problem is simply for ALL TRUE
Palestinians be they Muslims, Jews, or Christians to live in the NATION of
Palestine. But as we all know the
Zionists bring in people from
View disturbing pictures of
These Pagan Evangelical Zionist
Christians obviously are in deep with the Evildoer President Bush and thus are
supporters of Bush and his Zionist Israeli cohorts much of the brutal
These Pagan Evangelicals also threaten the
vary fabric of free and democratic
Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (Holy Qur'an 2:256, Abdullah Yusufali Translation)
Unfortunately, these Pagan Evangelical Fascists like Pat Robertson (see: https://www.answering-christianity.com/brain_damage_by_trinity.htm), Jerry Falwell, the fallen homosexual Ted Haggard (see: https://www.answering-christianity.com/Anonymous muslim/fraud_on_haggard_and_hinn.htm
And many others like James Dobson, and groups like the Chrisitan (Pagan) Coalition have infiltrated even the highest levels of American government and seek to turn American into their Psychopathic dream of a Pagan Trinitarian state that represses free thought, freedom of belief, dissent, discussion, differences, and the like.
Thankfully a thoughtful writer like Chris Hedges is bring this essential debate out in to the open.
American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on
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American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America is a non-fiction book by American author Chris Hedges, released in January 2007.
Hedges is a former seminary student with a Master's Degree in Divinity from Harvard and was a long-time foreign correspondent for The New York Times. He had previously criticized the Christian right in articles such as his cover story in the May 2005 issue of Harpers' magazine called 'Soldiers of Christ'.
Hedges' title comes from a prediction by his Harvard ethics professor, James Luther Adams, who 25 years earlier had warned his students that they would all be fighting the "Christian fascists". Hedges argues that this prediction has come true in that extreme forms of American Christianity now share many features with totalitarian movements, including suppression of individuality, a belief in magic, a shifting ideology, a "binary" good-or-evil view of the world, and a deep intolerance of people outside the movement. He writes that "Christian radicals" are often so consumed with power and wealth that their practice is no longer following "Christianity" in the traditional sense, as a religion focused on compassion and caring for the downtrodden.
He contrasts the fundamentalist understanding with that of his own, in which the Bible is recognized to have some contradictory, and even hateful passages, and scientifically, is limited to what people knew at the time. "Genesis was not written to explain the process of creation, of which these writers knew nothing (Me: Thankfully at least he admits the ANONYMOUS book of Genesis is a FAIRY TALE and is NOT historical in any way!). It was written to help explain the purpose of creation....to help us grasp a spiritual truth, not a scientific or historical fact....Doubt and belief are not, as biblical literalists claim, incompatible. Those who act without any doubt are frightening."
Hedges believes many of the followers are vulnerable victims of what he calls "The Culture of despair" resulting from dislocation and an economic disparity that has hit the American working class especially hard. In some parts of the country, Hedges writes, radical churches offer people a sense of belonging that was once found in the greater community. New converts are surrounded by new friends, but also live under a rigid of set rules that require unquestioning submission.
The book describes some of the places and events of the Christian right, including the 50,000-square foot Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky; a Love Won Out conference in Boston sponsored by Focus on the Family; the National Religious Broadcasters annual convention in Anaheim; and Trinity Broadcasting Network's lavish headquarters in Costa Mesa, California.
"The radical Christian Right calls for exclusion, cruelty and intolerance in the name of God," Hedges writes in his concluding chapter. "Its members do not commit evil for evil's sake. They commit evil to make a better world. To attain this better world, they believe, some must suffer and be silenced and destroyed. The worst suffering in human history has been carried out by those who preach such grand, utopian visions, those who seek to implant by force their narrow, particular version of goodness. This is true for all doctrines of personal salvation, from Christianity to ethnic nationalism to communism to fascism. Dreams of a universal good create hells of persecution, suffering and slaughter." 
Rick Perlstein of
the New York Times writes "Of course there are Christian fascists
Joe Bailey of the Oregon Daily Emerald wrote that Hedges "confuses political activism with totalitarian violence. ... Like all Americans, conservative Christians have the right to pursue their political objectives through peaceful and democratic means. Which is precisely what they have done. Despite the peaceful and democratic nature of their activism, Hedges attacks conservative Christians with the nastiest of slurs, revealing a frightening ignorance. ... The old guard of the Christian Right is stuck in the culture war mentality that originated in the 1960s. When liberals like Hedges adopt a similar culture war mentality, they only fortify the divide and lend ammunition to their adversaries."
wrote of the book: "As
^ American Fascists page 194
^ American Fascists page 8
^ American Fascists page 205
Twenty-five years ago, when Pat Robertson and other radio and televangelists first spoke of the United States becoming a Christian nation that would build a global Christian empire, it was hard to take such hyperbolic rhetoric seriously. Today, such language no longer sounds like hyperbole but poses, instead, a very real threat to our freedom and our way of life. In American Fascists, Chris Hedges, veteran journalist and author of the National Book Award finalist War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, challenges the Christian Right's religious legitimacy and argues that at its core it is a mass movement fueled by unbridled nationalism and a hatred for the open society.
Hedges, who grew up in rural parishes in upstate
Fascists, which includes interviews and coverage of events such as pro-life
rallies and weeklong classes on conversion techniques, examines the movement's
origins, its driving motivations and its dark ideological underpinnings. Hedges
argues that the movement currently resembles the young fascist movements
physical violence to suppress opposition. In short, the movement is not yet revolutionary. But the ideological architecture of a Christian fascism is being cemented in place. The movement has roused its followers to a fever pitch of despair and fury. All it will take, Hedges writes, is one more national crisis on the order of September 11 for the Christian Right to make a concerted drive to destroy American democracy. The movement awaits a crisis. At that moment they will reveal themselves for what they truly are -- the American heirs to fascism. Hedges issues a potent, impassioned warning. We face an imminent threat. His book reminds us of the dangers liberal, democratic societies face when they tolerate the intolerant.
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a Word: Scary,
I first heard about this book when Bob Edwards interviewed Chris
Hedges on NPR, something that says volumes as Republican members of congress
have tried for years to curtain if not silence public radio. Mr. Hedges, who
along with other reporters from "The New York Times," won the 2002
Pulitzer Prize for their coverage of global terrorism, dares to use the
"F" word here as it relates to the Christian Right and its attempts
to take over our government, creating an oligarchy. We have read before much
of what Mr. Hedges covers here-- Christian radio and television, Timothy
LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins' enormously popular LEFT BEHIND novels about the
Rapture, etc., the Christian Right's inroads into all areas of politics from
the local school board to the U. S. Congress, Senate and Presidency, the
teaching of Creationism in our public schools, the demonization of gays,
Muslims, liberals, immigrants, pro-choice advocates, et al. To see the
Religious Right's plans all laid out so well by Mr. Hedges is devastating
beyond words. It is useless he says to attempt debate with these people or to
try to change them as they are intent on destroying everyone who does not
think as they do. He does exhort all Americans who care about diversity to
"give up passivity, to challenge aggressively this movement's deluded
appropriation of Christianity and to do everything possible to defend
In closing I hope you see the Threat posed by Violent Fascist Evangelical Zionist Trinitarian Pagan Christians. To be CLEAR once again I am NOT saying all Christians or even all Evangelical Christians are like the insane leaders Robertson, Dobson, Falwell, Haggard, etc. Also as a Muslim I see people who claim to be following Islam but are truly following their own whims and desires. Also it is clear that violent groups try to say they are fighting in the cause of Islam, but we True Muslims, 99.9999% of the Muslim Ummah stand up for the Truth that Islam is a Religion of Peace, Tolerance, and We as Muslims do NOT want to force you to convert to our religion! Allah(SWT) even says in the Holy Qur'an "There is NO Complusion in Religion". I as a Muslim stand up and defend the True Religion of Allah(SWT) but I do NOT try to force my will or belief system on others, again Allah(SWT) states in his Holy Qur'an "There is NO Complusion in Religion" However, in America today groups like the Christian (Pagan) Coalition and people like Robertson have MASSIVE followings and they are indoctrinating more of their Pagan Evangelical flock into attempting to create a Fascist state that will do away with the Bill of Rights and Such. This article is a message to the American Pagan Christians who attack Muslims saying Extremists in our religion our attempting to hurt you; We'll I have a MESSAGE for you Christians your LOONEY-TUNES like Robertson, Falwell, etc. want to harm Me, My Muslim brothers and sisters, all American people, and eventually the world so just as I and all True followers of Islam denounce the .00000001% of extremists that claim our faith, I call on all true Christians to denounce the dangerous demagogues that make up the Extremist Pagan Evangelical Zionist Christian movement in America.
Terrorism in Islam?! (click here)
Let's look at the real terrorism in the Bible:
Pedophilia with 3-year old slave girls in the Bible!
Forcing 3-year old slave girls into sex during the Mosaic Law in the Bible! (click here)
Terror in the Bible by a number of Prophets! (click here)
Pregnant women will be ripped open! (click here)
The NT punishes children with death! (click here)
Terrorism: "kill all the boys and non-virgin women"!
Also under the Mosaic Law! (click here)
Another killing all men, women, children and animals by Moses! (click here)
Another taking all women and children as spoils of war by Moses! (click here)
Moses was a murderer before he became a Prophet! (click here)
Killing all of the "suckling infants" by the thousands by Saul! (click here)
Dashing little children against rocks in the book of Psalm!
Praising the dashing of little children against rocks as a form of revenge! (click here)
42 innocent children were killed using Wild Bears by Prophet Elisha!
Prophet Muhammad on the other hand loved children even those who threw stones at him in the city of
Both equal: "Kill Righteous and the wicked"! (click here)
Maiming of the enemies' bodies under Moses' and David's Laws:
Cutting the hands and feet of the enemies in the Bible, and hanging their alive bodies on trees until they DIE. (click here)
David's Selective Murders!
David so carelessly killed an innocent man for only telling him news. (click here)
X-Rated Pornography in the Bible, by King Solomon!
Literally, women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", and brothers can "suck" their sisters' and lovers' privates! (click here)
Fathers' fingers into their daughters' vaginas!
Under the Mosaic Law, fathers were allowed to do "Digital Defloration" to their daughters. (click here)
Shutting the loud mouths of those who unjustly attack Islam, with Truth.
Jesus didn’t kill anyone, oh really?
Debunking another Christian myth
One of the most common claim made by Christians is that Jesus never killed anybody. They often always bring this up against Muslims as if to show that the prophet Muhammad was a bad person because he killed people. Before refuting the myth that Jesus never killed anyone, we must also expose the Christian double standard and the Christian weak line of argument. If Jesus is great, and the prophet Muhammad is bad because he killed people, then so is Moses, and so is David.
The OT shows us a lot of battles that both Moses and David took part in, and both these men killed a lot of people, including women and children. Yet when we show this to Christians, they simply ignore it, or try to justify it. Yet what is most inconsistent about this is that if the prophet Muhammad kills people in battle or war, the Christian goes mad and starts screaming out 'false prophet! Such inconsistency from the Christian only exposes the Christian's deceptive character, and shows that these Christians dont have no holy spirit in them.
Now let us go back to the main topic, which is refuting the Christian propaganda lie that Jesus never killed anyone. As you all know, Christians always make the claim that Jesus is God, they claim that Jesus is the same God of the OT. So basically what we have is this:
1- Jesus is God
2- Jesus is the God of the Old Testement
3- Christians believe that the OT is the inspired word of God
4- The OT is authentic to the Christian
5- The God in the OT is Jesus
So since Jesus is the God of the OT, we shall now look at the God of the OT ordering the KILLINGS of many people:
Ethiopians will also be slaughtered
sword," says the LORD.
And the LORD will strike the lands of
the north with his fist. He will destroy Assyria and make its great
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other
men, "Follow him through the
city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no
pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.
But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the
Matthew henry's Biblical commentary writes this on Ezekial 9:5-7 :
. A command given to the destroyers to do execution according to
their commission. They stood by
the brazen altar, waiting for orders; and orders are here given them to cut
off and destroy all that were either guilty of, or accessory to, the
1. They are ordered to destroy all, (1.) Without exception. They must go through the city, and smite; they must slay utterly, slay to destruction, give them their death's wound. They must make no distinction of age or sex, but cut off old and young; neither the beauty of the virgins, nor the innocency of the babes, shall secure them. This was fulfilled in the death of multitudes by famine and pestilence, especially by the sword of the Chaldeans, as far as the military execution went. Sometimes even such bloody work as this has been God's work. But what an evil thing is sin, then, which provokes the God of infinite mercy to such severity! (2.) Without compassion: "Let not your eye spare, neither have you pity (Ezekiel 9:5 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:5&t=kjv> ); you must not save any whom God has doomed to destruction, as Saul did Agag and the Amalekites, for that is doing the work of God deceitfully, Jeremiah 48:10 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=jer+48:10&t=kjv> . None need to be more merciful than God is; and he had said (Ezekiel <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+8:18&t=kjv> ), My eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity." Note, Those that live in sin, and hate to be reformed, will perish in sin, and deserve not to be pitied; for they might easily have prevented the ruin, and would not.
2. They are warned
not to do the least hurt to those that were marked for salvation: "Come not near any man upon whom is the mark;
do not so much as threaten or frighten any of them; it is promised them that
there shall no evil come nigh them, and therefore you must keep at a distance
from them." The king of
3. They are directed to begin at the sanctuary (Ezekiel 9:6 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:6&t=kjv> ), that sanctuary which, in the chapter before, he had seen the horrid profanation of; they must begin there because there the wickedness began which provoked God to send these judgments. The debaucheries of the priests were the poisoning of the springs, to which all the corruption of the streams was owing. The wickedness of the sanctuary was of all wickedness the most offensive to God, and therefore there the slaughter must begin: "Begin there, to try if the people will take warning by the judgments of God upon their priests, and will repent and reform; begin there, that all the world may see and know that the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God, and hates sin most in those that are nearest to him." Note, When judgments are abroad they commonly begin at the house of God, 1 Peter <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=1pe+4:17&t=kjv> . You only have I known, and therefore I will punish you, Amos 3:2 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=am+3:2&t=kjv> . God's temple is a sanctuary, a refuge and protection for penitent sinners, but not for any that go on still in their trespasses; neither the sacredness of the place nor the eminency of their place in it will be their security. It should seem the destroyers made some difficulty of putting men to death in the temple, but God bids them not to hesitate at that, but (Ezekiel 9:7 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:7&t=kjv> ), Defile the house, and fill the courts with slain. They will not be taken from the altar (as was appointed by the law, Exodus 21:14 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=ex+21:14&t=kjv> ), but think to secure themselves by keeping hold of the horns of it, like Joab, and therefore, like him, let them die there, 1 Kings 2:30,31 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=1ki+2:30,31&t=kjv> . There the blood of one of God's prophets had been shed (Matthew <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=mt+23:35&t=kjv> ) and therefore let their blood be shed. Note, If the servants of God's house defile it with their idolatries, God will justly suffer the enemies of it to defile it with their violences, Psalms 79:1 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=ps+79:1&t=kjv> . But these acts of necessary justice were really, whatever they were ceremonially, rather a purification than a pollution of the sanctuary; it was putting away evil from among them. 4. They are appointed to go forth into the city, Ezekiel 9:6,7 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+9:6,7&t=kjv> . Note, Wherever sin has gone before judgement will follow after; and, though judgement begins at the house of God, yet it shall not end there. The holy city shall be no more a protection to the wicked people then the holy house was to the wicked priests.
II. Here is execution done accordingly. They observed their orders, and, 1. They began at the elders, the ancient men that were before the house, and slew them first, either those seventy ancients who worshipped idols in their chambers (Ezekiel 8:12 <http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=eze+8:12&t=kjv> ) or those twenty-five who worshipped the sun between the porch and the altar, who might more properly be said to be before the house. Note, Ringleaders in sin may expect to be first met with by the judgments of God; and the sins of those who are in the most eminent and public stations call for the most exemplary punishments. 2. They proceeded to the common people: They went forth and slew in the city; for, when the decree has gone forth, there shall be no delay; if God begin, he will make an end.
These are just 2 examples the God in the OT ordering the death and destruction of the people. In fact the verses are very explicit; the God of the OT is making it clear that it is HIS SWORD which shall slay the people.
So since Jesus is God, and is the God of the OT, this means that it was Jesus who ordered these killings and it was Jesus who killed all these people! Hence the Christian myth is DEBUNKED. Jesus did kill, and Jesus ordered the killings of women and children, the fact that Christians claim that Jesus never killed anyone is a plane intentional lie by the Christians. We must ask why would the Christians make such a blatant lie? And it also leaves us with another question, which is what else do the Christians lie about? What other myths and propaganda do they create on their made up faith? We can only guess, but no doubt each lie will get caught and exposed.
VICTIMS OF THE
Serbs claim they are going directly to Heaven, this is based on the teachings of Paul who wrote Jesus' blood cleansed all past, present, and future sins [even as they kill and rape innocent people on Easter].
We witnessed over the centuries the negative effects of this theory of atonement as we witness it's ungodly effects today.
With these Christians under the assumption that they are saved on faith alone regardless of their horrid actions, in the case of the Serbs [rape, genocide, looting], you have atrocities repeating themselves through out history, with it's root in the Christian atonement theory.
Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete)
· Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
· Peasants of Steding (
· Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
· 15th century
16th and 17th century
· First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]
· 9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27]
· Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents - save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]
· Marra (Maraat an-numan)
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude")
· The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to
look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay
fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of
the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated
limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon
them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping
with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who
met them. It is reported that within the
· Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the
following summer in all of
· Battle of Askalon,
· Fourth crusade:
· Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably
20 million victims (in the
Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.
· Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]
· Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice
birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was
exterminated in huge campaigns all over the
· Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians.
The Albigensians (cathars = Christians allegedly that have all rarely sucked) viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-Nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Beziérs (today
· subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the
population of the
· After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324. [WW183]
· Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone), [WW183]
· Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and
many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live
today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least
hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding
victims in the
· Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28]
· John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415. [LI475-522]
· University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in
· Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for
seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (
· from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several thousand.
· in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV]
· incomplete list of documented cases: The Burning of Witches - A Chronicle of the Burning Times
· 15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]
· 1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate
· 1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million
rebels in (then Spanish)
· 1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31]
· 17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head, his hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but] then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they hauled it out again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of Montfaulcon, 'to be meat and carrion for maggots and crows'." [SH191]
· 17th century: Catholics sack the city of
· 17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of
population decimated, mostly in
· Already in the 4th and 5th centuries synagogues were burned by Christians. Number of Jews slain unknown.
· In the middle of the fourth century the first synagogue was destroyed
on command of bishop Innocentius of Dertona in
· 17. Council of
· The Bishop of Limoges (France) in 1010 had the cities' Jews, who would not convert to Christianity, expelled or killed. [DA453]
· First Crusade: Thousands of Jews slaughtered 1096, maybe 12.000 total. Places: Worms 5/18/1096, Mainz 5/27/1096 (1100 persons), Cologne, Neuss, Altenahr, Wevelinghoven, Xanten, Moers, Dortmund, Kerpen, Trier, Metz, Regensburg, Prag and others (All locations Germany except Metz/France, Prag/Czech) [EJ]
· Second Crusade: 1147. Several hundred Jews were slain in Ham, Sully,
Carentan, and Rameru (all locations in
· Third Crusade: English Jewish communities sacked 1189/90. [DO40]
· Fulda/Germany 1235: 34 Jewish men and women slain. [DO41]
· 1257, 1267: Jewish communities of
· 1290 in Bohemian (
· 1337 Starting in Deggendorf/Germany a Jew-killing craze reaches 51
· 1348 All Jews of Basel/Switzerland and Strasbourg/France (two thousand) burned. [DO41]
· 1349 In more than 350 towns in
· 1389 In Prag 3,000 Jews were slaughtered. [DO42]
· 1492: In the year
· 1648 Chmielnitzki massacres: In
sick ...) this goes on and on, century after century, right into the kilns of
· Beginning with Columbus (a former slave trader and would-be Holy
Crusader) the conquest of the
· Within hours of landfall on the first inhabited island he encountered
· On every island he set foot on,
"I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter in your country and shall make war against you ... and shall subject you to the yoke and obedience of the Church ... and shall do you all mischief that we can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse to receive their lord and resist and contradict him." [SH66]
Of course no different were the founders of what today is
the US of AmeriKKKa.
Diem saw to it that
The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:
"Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."
Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].
To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life.
"Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are
suspect of having actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a
certain Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in
According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned them over to the machetes of the Hutu militia.
connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns are
mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the meantime to
avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them called the Hutu killers
and led them to several thousand people who had sought shelter in her
monastery. By force the doomed were driven out of the churchyard and were
murdered in the presence of the nun right in front of the gate. The other one
is also reported to have directly cooperated with the murderers of the Hutu
militia. In her case again witnesses report that she watched the slaughtering
of people in cold blood and without showing response. She is even accused of
having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on fire and burn their
victims alive..." [S2]
K.Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn,
K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.
P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement,
S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.
H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages,
M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.
See also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican,
J.T.Noonan, Contraception: A History of its Treatment by the Catholic Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.
Newscast of S2 Aktuell,
D.Stannard, American Holocaust,
German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49,
A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have Hapned in the Warre Between the English and the Indians in New England, London 1676.
F.Turner, Beyond Geography,
H.Wollschläger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen
(This is in german and what is worse, it is out of print. But it is the best I ever read about crusades and includes a full list of original medieval Christian chroniclers' writings).
Estimates on the number of executed witches:
N.Cohn, Europe's Inner Demons: An Enquiry Inspired by the Great Witch Hunt, Frogmore 1976, 253.
R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology,
J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.
H.Zwetsloot, Friedrich Spee und die Hexenprozesse,
We have today the Christian Serbs, yesterday we had the Christian Nazis, before that the Christian colonists, the Chrsitian crusaders, on and on, all believed their cold blooded murders will not effect their entrance directly into heaven.
I believe these Christians never read the Bible, I believe they only followed false teachings of their church without ever reading what Christ who was sent by God stated regarding Salvation, which in summary states; "If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15)
Here we see these Christians are disgusted with Jesus; "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:38-39)
These Christians do not turn the other cheek to their enemies [innocent young girls] , instead the these Christians [today the Serbs] grab these girls by the cheeks and _rape_ them, and steal their innocence.
Jesus offered a kind method of atonement by stating; "forgive, and ye shall be forgiven" (Luke ) and "But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses." (Mark 11:25-26)
Rather than the Christians obeying the advise of Jesus, for every one Christian, ten innocent children are killed by the by these church followers.
These Christians obviously do the opposite of what the Messiah taught; "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust." (Matthew 5:43-45)
These Christians give the true meaning of [anti-Christ] fore they do the reverse of what Jesus teaches .
These Christian , are dragging Christianity to a new low in the History of Christian Atrocities.
These Christians Hate Jesus more than any group of people world wide because they openly, publicly and proudly spit on the commandments of Jesus; "Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal" (Matthew )
In conclusion, Christ whispered gently; "If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15)
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