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Aha so this http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/haman_transition.html did not refute this http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html  ?
In other ways the second link refuted the first, or what do you mean dear brother?

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Akhi Osama

These articles by Islamic Awareness are already refuted by answering-islam.com

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/haman.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBnumb.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/Internal/qi026.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/burntbrick.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/rosetta.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mosespharaoh.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBorientalist.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/samaritan.html
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/BBsheba.html

See here are the rebuttals, but we have not rebuttals!

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/katz/haman.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/vargo/haman_transition.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/katz/haman/app_similarity.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_1a.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_1b.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/masihiyyen/esther_haman_2.html

Was Haman the high-priest of Amun?

From the Maurice “Bucaillian” Haman to the [Latest] “Islamic Awareness” Haman: A Case of a Crumbling Argument?

* The Hoax

Stage One: Maurice Bucaille
Stage Two: Islamic Awareness
Stage Three: Harun Yahya
Stage Four: Caner Taslaman (later addition)

* Excursus: The impact of the Muslim Haman argument

* Various Appendices providing further background information

    Who was Haman according to the Qur'an?
    The similarities between Haman in the Bible and Haman in the Qur'an
    The full inscription of "Haman's" door post
    The two versions of the argument by Islamic Awareness
    Hammon & Hemiunu: The psychology of Islamic Awareness
    What Islamic Awareness really knew
    Statements by German Egyptologists

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Al-salam ´alaykum wa rahmatullah wa baarakatuh.

You can find here one of the Miracles of Noble Quran:

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/562/

BUT our enemy: answering-islam.com made a rebuttal to this

They wrote:

خَلَقَكُم مِّن نَّفۡسٍ۬ وَٲحِدَةٍ۬ ثُمَّ جَعَلَ مِنۡہَا زَوۡجَهَا وَأَنزَلَ لَكُم مِّنَ ٱلۡأَنۡعَـٰمِ ثَمَـٰنِيَةَ أَزۡوَٲجٍ۬‌ۚ يَخۡلُقُكُمۡ فِى بُطُونِ أُمَّهَـٰتِڪُمۡ خَلۡقً۬ا مِّنۢ بَعۡدِ خَلۡقٍ۬ فِى ظُلُمَـٰتٍ۬ ثَلَـٰثٍ۬‌ۚ ذَٲلِكُمُ ٱللَّهُ رَبُّكُمۡ لَهُ ٱلۡمُلۡكُ‌ۖ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ‌ۖ فَأَنَّىٰ تُصۡرَفُونَ (٦)  Quran 39:6

It say : anzala lakum

So they say that the cattles were also sent down just like the iron.

APPENDIX

History testifies to the fact that other ancient cultures, e.g. the Egyptians, Sumerians and Hittites witnessed the fall of meteorites and revered them as heavenly gifts/sacred objects:

Throughout the ages, meteorites were venerated as sacred objects by different cultures and ancient civilizations. The spectacular fall of a meteorite, accompanied by light and sound phenomena, such as falling stars, smoke, thunder, and sonic booms, has always kindled the human imagination, evoking fear and awe in everyone who witnesses such an event. For obvious reasons, the remnants of these incidents, the actual meteorites, were often kept as sacred stones or objects of power. They were worshiped, and used in their respective religious ceremonies.8

More to the point, some of these meteorites naturally had iron in them and thus made some tribes aware of iron’s connection with the sky:

Actually, several Native American tribes venerated pieces and fragments of the Canyon Diablo meteorite, a giant iron meteorite that excavated Arizona's famous Meteor Crater upon its impact about 50,000 years ago. Archaeological finds throughout the United States and Mexico, proved that Canyon Diablo fragments had been traded briskly centuries before Columbus reached the shores of the New World.

The discovery of iron in the meteorites did not only make ancient civilizations aware of the fact that iron was “sent down” from the sky, but also taught them that these fallen stones were the best source of iron:

Iron meteorites provided iron for people to use for tools and weapons before the art of smelting was known. Finding such meteorites was rare and the ancients did understand the meteorites connection with sky. This was evidenced in the names given them. The ancient Egyptians called meteorites the "stone of heaven." The oldest Sumerian word for iron meant "sky" and "fire." The Hittites, one of the first to use weapons from smelted terrestrial iron, called the metal "fire from heaven." The Assyrians too, extracted iron from ore and called it "fragment from heaven."

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Rebuttals & Polemics / This question will shock all christians!
« on: November 24, 2012, 01:29:57 PM »
Christians always ask us Muslims: why did God Almighty wait 600 years to send Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.?
Christians claim that the title Messiah means savior, then where was the savior 6000 years?
Why did God wait 6000 years to send the savior?
6000 years there was not need for any savior, God forgave when people repented to Him.
And this is what The Old Testament say! So which book is more believable? The old or the new testament?
By the way, the title Messiah means Anointed and not savior.
But for the sake of argument there is anything more absurd!
Christians claim that God died for the sins of the world, He died as a man with name Jesus (God forbid!), and whoever do not believe in the crucifixion of Jesus, will go to hell forever!
Opps wait a moment!!!! What? What about those people who lived 6000 years before birth of Jesus? They could not believe in Jesus because he came after 6000 years, so they all went to hell? And the final question is what is more 600 or 6000 years? How do you respond this christians?


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Al-salam ´alaykum wa rahmatu Allah wa baarakatuh dear brother Osama  :)

Thank you very much for answering.
And yes, you are right, I hate especially the christians of answering-islam.com  :D
They are very dumb! they read the bible and do not become muslims?? what kind of ignorants are they?
Qataluhum Allah!

And I do not know, what happened to their website? Once I wanted to destroy their website.

I tell you anything important, when I was reading articles from your website, I saved many many pages from your website to my computer, like this: right click with mouse/save page... etc..
And I wanted to open your page, but it did not work, no people could open your webpage. So I thinked that must be becouse of me, so I deleted all saved html-s what I have downloaded from you page. And then your website started to work again. I am really sorry for that, I did not know that if I save pages then it will not work. It was one day that your page did not work.

Try to download many pages from anwering-islam.com and then open those pages in your computer, but many times, and "MAYBE" their website will not work, But I am not sure. We can try it :D

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Final Overture & muzi123, you both claim that the Gospel of barnabas is against The Noble Quran.

No it is not against The Quran

Please read this:

32 Reasons why the Gospel Of Barnabas is not a 16th Century Forgery written by Muslims

http://invitationtotruth.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/32-reasons-for-gospel-of-barnabas/

BUT I say to you the truth about this gospel, it is a fabrication (not I claim that, but Yusuf Estes).
You can read it, but it is waste of time!
Today all the books of bible are man-made, corrupted and changed.
Why to waste our time with reading corrupted and man-made books, while we have The Glorious Quran The Word of God, what is totally preserved.

Thing about it! :)

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As RamziBinNabil said, the people of Book are the jews, christians and the sabians.

jews followed the Torah

christians followwed the Gospel

sabians followed the Psalms

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Al-salam ´alaykum.
I think that the Tafseer of Ibn Kathir is the most acceptable.

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Al-salam ´alaykum wa rahmatu Allah wa baarakatuh brothers in Islam.

This article is totally confused xD

Just read it and comment.

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Re: Very Important to make rebuttals
« on: November 23, 2012, 05:17:33 PM »
wa alaykum al-salam dear brother
I understood, so I go to write everything in single way

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Al-salam alaykum.

Yes there is pornography in the bible, because the bible has words of satan

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Al-salam alaykum.

I do not wonder on this that the bible call God as deciever, because not only we but also orientalists are sure that the bible is corrupt and changed by anonymous people and in unknown time, also there are no witnesses what happened,  and where are the original books of bible? they are all lost.
No man with normal brain will believe in the bible as the word of God.
the bible is not the word of God

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Rebuttals & Polemics / Very Important - Authorship of the Quran
« on: November 22, 2012, 09:02:14 AM »
Al-salam alaykum wa rahmatu Allah wa baarakatuh dear brothers in Islam.

IMPORTANT: There are many anti Islamic claims, such as there was a man or more people who taught the Quran to the Prophet (s.a.w.) or he invited it.

I need irrefutable proofs that nobody taught the Quran to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.), no man or people taught it to him, nor he invited, but it is a revelation from the Creator.

Also I need refutations to these anti Islam claims:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Badawi/Radio/RA200J8.htm

http://mostintolerantreligion.com/articles/responses/rebuttal-to-islam-religion-article-the-authorship-of-the-quran/


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