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www.islamweb/emainpage/index.php? page=showfatwa&Option = FatwaId&Id =84343
The Big issue of child Marriage
It has been agreed by the scholars unanimously that it permissible to marry young children below the age of puberty but the marriage cannot be consummated without the girl reaching the age of puberty end quote from Al Fath al bari
But in case it so happens that after attaining maturity she doesn't likes the marriage she has the right to ask for divorce Reference ibn Majjah number 1874
Where a whose marriage WAS UNNCONSUMATED CAME ASKING FOR PERMISSION OF DIVORCE.
Classed  as sahih

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PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) NEVER ASKED THEM TO RELEASE THE CAPTIVES.
2.By MY STATEMENT
"In initial period of Islam One may say that the companions of prophet Muhmaad ( sws ) may used to force the slaves for intercourse"
I NEVER MEANT TO SAY THAT PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) INTIALLY APPROVED RAPE AND THEN FORBADE IT
WHAT I WAS SAYING THAT JUST AS THE COMPANIONS OF PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) USED TO DRINK ALCOHOL AND HE DIDN'T FORBADE THEM SIMILARLY COMPANIONS OF PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) MAY USED TO MISTREAT THE SLAVES (EVEN BY FORCING THEM TO INTERCOURSE)
BUT IT IS NOT ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO HARM AND MISTREAT THE SLAVES AND NO ONE CAN DARE TO CHALLENGE
Quran chp 4 verse 36 see Tafsir ibn kasir

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NOTE
1) BY ALL THIS EXPLANATIONS I NEVER MEANT TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT PERMISSIBLE TO PERFORM COITUS INTERUPTUS WITH SLAVE WOMAN.
WHAT I WAS TACKLING WAS THE QUESTION
"IF ISLAM GIVES RIGHTS TO SLAVE WOMAN THEN WHY COMPANIONS OF PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) IMMEDIATELY WANTED TO HAVE SEX WITH CAPTIVE WOMEN OF BANU AL MUSTALIQ?
REASON I HAVE EXPLAINED IN TOTALITY THE REASON THAT SINCE THE IDDAH LAW WAS NOT REVEALED AND THAT RULE DIDN'T CAME INTO FORCE THAT S THE REASON THEY IMMEDIATELY WANTED TO ENGAGE IN SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP
MORE OVER IF THEY RAPIST AS SUCH THEN HOW COME THEY RELEASED ALL THE CAPTIVES WITH OUT HAVING SEX OUT OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: NUMBER 19 MIRACLE EXPOSED
« on: February 27, 2017, 09:44:07 AM »
www.letmeturnthetables.com / 2010/ 11 / alleged-false-verses -9128-9-of-quran.html?m=1
Brother Osama But one of the most Great scholar
Sheikh Muhmaad Salih Al Munajid Says
Number 19 has no significance
I Better suggest u that replace it with one of the most Greatest Historical Proof of Quran chp Surah Rum Verses 1 to 3  for reference Please See
Tahfeem ul Quran by ala mdoodi

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / NUMBER 19 MIRACLE EXPOSED
« on: February 27, 2017, 02:11:37 AM »
Aslaam walaikum brother Osama i was reading an article of
LETMETURNTHETABLES.COM
He says that number 19 has no significance in Islam

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NOTE
All of those Hadiths in which
Religionofpeace.com has written "another account of women taken as slaves and Raped After Prophet Muhmaad ( sws ) approval"
Is nothing but a bunch of fabricated words in the context of Hadiths.
ONE OF THE PROOF OF PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) BEING THE PROPHET
Before understanding this i want to make the Reader of this article bear in mind that Slavery at the end of the day is Not something PROHIBITED But for understanding one Needs to understand the Purpose of slavery
PLEASE GO TO ISLAM Q AND A AND ISLAM. ORG
NOW THE PROOF
Often people ask that how do you view It as moral that the companions of Prophet Muhmaad ( sws ) wanted to Perform coitus interuptus with the women just taken as slaves and How We are defending it.
AS I AL READY SAID IN THE STARTING THAT PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) FORBADE ONLY THOSE THINGS WHICH HE KNEW WERE FORBIDDEN
NOW THE CHALLENGE COMES
U KNOW WHEN THEY ASKED HIM ABOUT COITUS INTERUPTUS IN BATTLE OF BANU AL MUSTALIQ HE DIDN'T SAID IF YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND HIS MESSENGER AND LAST DAY OF JUDGEMENT THEN U CAN'T COHABIT WITH A CAPTIVE WOMEN BEFORE THE COMPLETION OF WAITING PERIOD.
SO HOW COME IT TOOK HIM 3 LONG YEARS TO FABRICATE AND INVENT A SIMPLE YET VERY VERY IMPORTANT LAW IF HE WAS A FABRICATER AND THEN TO HE PRODUCE A MORE ETHICAL AND A LAW THAT IS HONORING AND SANCTIFYING THE RIGHTS OF FEMALE SLAVE
EVERY LAW THAT PROPHET MUHMAAD ( SWS ) NARRATED TO HIS FOLLOWRRS WAS REVEALATION TO HIM. AND I CHALLENGE WHICH CIVILISATION WHICH CULTURE AND RELIGION TALKS ABOUT WAITING PERIOD FOR FEMALE SLAVE
Quran chp 32 Surah Sajda Verse 3
Or THEY SAY MUHMAAD ( SWS ) HAS FABRICATED IT NAY SAY TO THEM IT IS THE TRUTH FROM THEIR LORD.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Sunan Abu Dawud 2150
« on: February 17, 2017, 10:42:43 AM »
Aslaam walaikum brother I have written a longest refutation on this topic ever
Type Rape of female slaves refuted once and for all

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Aslaam walaikum please someone give me link to download Al fath al bari and Tafsir Sahih Muslim

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"When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her"
Shaykh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni, al-Hikma TV, May 22, 2011
PLS DONT GET CONFUSED BY THIS THATS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO CONVEY THAT THE SLAVE WOMEN ARE NOT ONLY MEANT FOR NEITHER THEY SOLD AND BOUGHT ONLY FOR THIS PURPOSE
(ALTHOUGH KEEPING IN MIND THAT ISLAM ALLOWS SEX WITH SLAVE WOMAN)

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SLAVES AND PROSTITUTES
https://islamqa.info/en/5707
Abdullaah ibn Mas’ood said, "We were with the Prophet while we were young and had no wealth whatsoever. So Allaah’s Messenger said, "O young people! Whoever among you can marry, should marry, because it helps him lower his gaze and guard his modesty (i.e. his private parts from committing illegal sexual intercourse etc.), and whoever is not able to marry, should fast, as fasting diminishes his sexual power." Bukhari:5066. The hadeeth orders men who are not able to marry to fast despite the hardship encountered in doing so, and not to masturbate despite the ease with which it can be done.
ANY OF THE SAHIHS U WILL FIND THIS HADITH
HERE PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS) ENCOURAGED MARRIAGE OR SUGGESTED FASTING HE NEVER SAID HAVING A SLAVE GIRL IS AN EASY WAY OUT.


A daughter accusing her father of sexual abuse
Islamweb, Fatwa No. 156817, May 18, 2011

IN THIS FATWA HE IS TRYING TO POTRAY AS IF THOUGH ISLAM Allows rape of even ur daughter if someone is not present to give evidence
https://islamqa.info/en/12707

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REASONS WHY MUTAH(TEMPORARY) MARRIAGE IS FORBIDDEN
https://islamqa.info/en/20738
https://islamqa.info/en/27104
IF SOMEONE WILL READ THIS REASONS HE WILL FOR SURE REALISE ALLAH WILLING THAT THE OPINION I ADOPTED IS EXTREMELY STRONG MOREOVER IF ALLAH JUST WANTED MUSLIMS TO USE SLAVE WOMAN FOR SEX THEN WHATS THE MEANING OF IDDAH LAW FOR A CAPTIVE WOMAN TAKEN AS SLAVE GIRL
REFUTING ALI SINA
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Rape
I HAVE ALREADY REFUTED ALL THE HADITHS NOW I AM REFUTING SCHOLARS PAGE
A man may gratify his passion with his female slave in whatever way he pleases- It is lawful for a man to perform the act of Azil (i.e. coitus interruptus) with his female slave without her consent, whereas he cannot lawfully do so by his wife unless with her permission. –The reason of this is that the Prophet has forbidden the act of Azil with a free woman without her consent but has permitted it to a master in the case of his female slave. Besides, carnal connexion is the right of a free woman for the gratifying of her passion, and the propagation of children (whence it is that a wife is at liberty to reject a husband who is an eunuch or impotent); whereas a slave possesses no such right.—A man, therefore, is not at liberty to injure the right of his wife, whereas a master is absolute with respect to his slave. If, also, a man should marry the female slave of another, he must not perform the act of Azil with her without the consent of her master.
The Hidaya p.600. Archived at [3]
AS FAR AS COITUS INTERRUPTUS IS CONCERNED SOME SCHOLARS SAY IT IS ALLOWED TO PERFORM IT WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF FEMALE SLAVE BUT HE DIDN'T SAID THAT IT IS FINE TO RAPE HER OR HARM HER FORCEFUL INTERCOURSE
I HAVE A BIT DIFFERENT OPINION SINCE ONE OF THE WAYS A SLAVE WOMAN GETS HER FREEDOM IS BY BORING CHILD TO HER MASTER SO SHE MIGHT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONSENT FOR COITUS INTERRUPTUS. MAYBE THE CAN PERFORM AZLI WITHOUT HER CONSENT BUT THAT FOR SURE NOT ALWAYS BECAUSE IT WILL KILL  HER POSSIBLE WAY OF BECOMING FREE AND ISLAM ENCOURAGES FREEDOM OF SLAVES IF THEY WANT IT.


Husband forcing his wife to have intercourse
Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597
ALI SINA IS UNNECESARILY CREATING CONFUSION THRUOGH THIS FATWA HE IS PROTRAYING AS THOUGH IT IS ALLOWED TO RAPE UR WIFE AND SLAVE GIRL IF SHE IS REFUSING TO SEX
HERE IS THE RESPONSE BY THE SAME SCHOLAR
https://islamqa.info/en/40405
THIS WILL INSHAALLAH CLARIFY

WITH REGARDS TO THIS FATWA

Intercourse with a slave woman is not regarded as zina (adultery)
Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 20802
I HAVE ALREADY CLEARED WITH EXPLANATION


[It is] un-Islamic to stop husbands from having sex with their wives even if they were doing so without their consent.[1]
Dr Aamir Liaqat Hussain, Pakistan's minister of state for religious affairs

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS SCHOLAR BUT HE IS SIMPLY CONTRADICTING THE ISLAMIC LAWS
https://islamqa.info/en/9602

Moreover, the founder of the Shafi'i madhabs also confirmed that stance:
If a man acquires by force a slave-girl, then has sexual intercourse with her after he acquires her by force, and if he is not excused by ignorance, then the slave-girl will be taken from him, he is required to pay the fine, and he will receive the punishment for illegal sexual intercourse.
— Al-Shafi'i, Kitabul Umm, Vol.3, p.253.
NOW DO THIS ANTI ISLAMICSTS UNDERSTAND ISLAM BETTER THAN IMAM SHAFI
Malik related to me from Nafi that a slave was in charge of the slaves in the khumus and he forced a slave-girl among those slaves against her will and had intercourse with her. Umar ibn al-Khattab had him flogged and banished him, and he did not flog the slave-girl because the slave had forced her.
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:85:81,[41]Al-Muwatta, 41 3.15
HOW COME SUCH A MINIATURE SCHOLAR FORGOT ABOUT IMAM SHAFII A SECOND GENERATION SCHOLAR AND SON OF THE COMPANION OF PROPHET MUHMMAD (SWS)



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There are some wild scratched claims that Prophet Muhmaad ( sws )  was a racist can anyone help me
And also I heard there are some hadiths talking on this matter
Black are bad something of that sort

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LET ME FOCUS ALSO ON RIGHT TO ASK FOR FREEDOM AND CONSENT
PROOF FROM QURAN
(24:32) Marry those of you that are single, (whether men or women),50 and those of your male and female slaves that are righteous.51,52 If they are poor, Allah will enrich them out of His Bounty.53 Allah is Immensely Resourceful, All-Knowing.
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(24:33) Let those who cannot afford to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His Bounty.54 And write out a deed of manumission for such of your slaves that desire their freedom55 in lieu of payment56 - if you see any good in them57 - and give them out of the wealth that Allah has given you.58 And do not compel your slave-girls to prostitution for the sake of the benefits of worldly life the while they desire to remain chaste.59 And if anyone compels them to prostitution, Allah will be Most Pardoning, Much Merciful (to them) after their subjection to such compulsion.
WITH THE BASIC CONDITION THAT THEY WILL NOT BETRAY THE ISLAMIC SOCIETY AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BEG AROUND AFTER ATTAINING THEIR FREEDOM SCHOLARS HAVE STATED THAT IT  BECOMES OBLIGATORY TO GIVE THEM FREEDOM.
FROM EXAMPLES OF CAPTIVES
1) JUWWARRIYAH BIN HARRITH
 
The Marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, May Allah Be Pleased with Her
 
The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives and she was a blessing for her people. Let us know about her story from ‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with her. It was narrated that she said, “When the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq, Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith belonged to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas or one of his cousins. She held a manumission contract with him. She was a beautiful and attractive woman. Anyone who saw her admired her. She came to the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) in order to help her in paying her manumission.”
 
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, continued
 
By Allah, as soon as I saw her at the door of my room, I hated her. I knew that the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) would admire her. She entered to see the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) and said “O Messenger of Allah, I am Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, the chief of his people. I have been afflicted with an adversity that you know [i.e. that she had become a slave woman after she was a free woman and the first lady of her people]. I belong to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas, or a cousin of his, and I hold a manumission contract with him. Here I am seeking your help for the manumission.” The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) said: “Would you want what is better than this?” She said, “What is that, O Messenger of Allah?” He replied: “I shall pay your manumission and marry you.” She agreed, and then the news spread among people.
SUNAN ABU DAWUD BOOK OF EMANCIPATION OF SLAVES
GRADED AS HASAN
2) SAFFIYAH BIN HUYYI BIN AKHTAB
Safiyyah said, ‘It was caused by my ex-husband when I told him of my dream in which I saw as if a moon had fallen into my lap, he [Kinana] slapped me and said, ‘Do you aspire to marry the king of Yathrib?’ (At-Tabarani, Al-Mu’jam al-Kabir, volume 24, page 67) [5]
“While still the bride of Kinana b. al-Rabi b. Abu al-Huqayq, Safiyya had seen a vision in her sleep that a moon dropped into her lap. She told her husband of her vision and he replied, ‘That’s only because you desire the ‘King of HIjaz’, Muhammad!’ He then gave her a slap on her face that blackened her eye. The mark of this was still upon her when she was brought to the Messenger of God (SAAS). He asked her how it had happened, and she told him.’” (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya, volume 3, page 267)
“When Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) reached Khyber while Safiya was a bride at her place. She saw in her dream that a sun came into her lap. She mentioned it before her husband. He said; ‘By Allah you do not wish for anyone except the King who has come upon us.’ Allah’s Messenger conquered Khyber and her husband was killed. From that time (of dream) she loved that the Prophet (pbuh) may marry her. (Tabarani Kabeer, Hadith 19667)

Ibn Umar narrates: In the eye of Sayyidah Safiya was a scar. Holy Prophet (pbuh) said to her, ‘What is this scar in your eye?’ She said, ‘I mentioned before my husband that I saw a moon falling into my lap in a dream so he slapped me and said; ‘Do you long for the King of Yathrib [i.e. Holy Prophet pbuh]’ (Tabarani Kabeer, Hadith 19668. Albani classified it as Sahih in his Silsala Sahiha H. 2793)
When Safiya came to the Holy Prophet (pbuh), he said to her; ‘Among the Jews your father did not stop in his enmity towards me until Allah destroyed him.’ She said: ‘O Allah’s Messenger! Indeed Allah says in His book, ‘No one will take anyone else’s burden’. So the Holy Prophet (p) said to her: ‘MAKE YOUR CHOICE, if you will chose Islam I’ll select you for myself and IF YOU CHOSE JUDAISM, I WILL SET YOU FREE AND SENT YOU TO YOUR PEOPLE.’ She said; ‘O Allah’s Messenger indeed I longed for Islam and testified for you even before you gave me this invitation when I came to you. I have no guardian among the Jews, neither father nor brother and I prefer Islam over disbelief. Allah and His Messenger are dear to me then freedom and to return to my people.” (Ibn Saad volume 8, page 123)
3) captives of banu al mustaliq
 
Thereupon, the Muslims released all Banu Al-Mustaliq’s captives as they had become relatives through the marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ).

‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “The marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, was the cause of the setting free of one hundred families of the Banu Al-Mustaliq. I do not know of a woman who was greater in blessing to her people than she was. Following the incident, Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, Juwayriyah’s father, came to Madeenah with the ransom of his daughter. The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) invited him to embrace Islam, and he did.”
NOW SIMPLE QUESTIONS TO ISLAMOPHOBES
1) HOW COME CAPTIVES OF BANU MUSTALIQ ACCEPTED ISLAM AFTER THE BATTLE DIDN'T THEY RECOGNISED THE ONES WHO WERE GOING TO RAPE THEM?
2) WHY JUWWARIYYAH (RA) ACCEPTED ISLAM AND WHY SAFFIYAH(RA) TOO?
IT IS THE TRUTH FROM UR LORD

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4)
let me also make some points clear
there are some islamophobes who are accusing that Abu salma (RA) would have raped her but Prophet Muhmmad (sws) asked for her
1 first of all let me make the thing clear that this narration of Abu salma(RA) was of battle of banu fazra
2 this battle was after BANU MUSTALIQ AND BEFORE THE BATTLE OF AWTAS AND FOR REFERENCE PLEASE SEE THE SEALED NECTAR
3 even DURING THIS PERIOD THE IDDAH LAW WAS NOT REVEALED TO PROPHET AND IT WAS LAWFULL FOR THEM TO IMMEDEIATELY ENGAGE IN INTIMACY AFTER THE CAPTIVE WOMEN WERE MADE SLAVES BUT EVEN AFTER THAT HE DIDN'T TOUCHED HER FOR 3 NIGHTS.
LET US SEE THE CONDUCT OF A NOBLE COMPANION
“…we arrived in Medina. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) met me in the street and said: ‘Give me that girl, O Salama!’ I said: ‘Messenger of Allah, she has fascinated me. I had not yet disrobed her.’ The next day, the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) again met me in the street, he said: ‘O Salama, give me that girl, May God bless your father.’ I said: ‘She is for you. Messenger of Allah! By Allah! I have not yet disrobed her.’ The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) sent her to the people of Makkah, and surrendered her as ransom for a number of Muslims who had been kept as prisoners at Makkah.” (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 3299)

Now one can observe that Salama (RA) said that he had not disrobed her when they reached Medina and again when the Holy Prophet (PBUH) met him in the street he told that he had not disrobed her. And even the next day, after the night having passed, when he was again asked for the girl, he testified that he had yet not disrobed her though she fascinated him.

This is enough proof that Salama didn’t forcefully lay with her as it was against the teachings of Islam. Islam does not allow a man to forcefully have sexual intercourse with his slave woman, otherwise no could stop Salama from sleeping with a slave girl who fascinated him.
PROOF THAT NONE OF THE CAPTIVE WOMEN OF HUNAYN WERE EVEN TOUCHED
In this battle the casualties of the Muslims were large, but the biographers have not mentioned the number of those killed. The enemy lost seventy of their bravest, of whom forty fell under the sword of Imam Ali.

As a result of this victory, enormous booty fell into the hands of the Muslims. The Muslims, however, stood to gain and the enemies fled leaving behind six thousand captives, twenty four thousand camels, forty thousand sheep and four thousand Waqih (It is equal to 213 grams approximately) of silver. The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ordered that all the men and the entire property should be taken to Ji'ranah. He also appointed some men to keep a watch. The captives were kept in a particular house and the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ordered that the entire booty should remain there as it was, till he returned from Ta'if.
FROM IBN KATHIR SEERAH WA NABWIYYAH VOL 3
what about ibn katheer
ibn katheer english translation
"consequently we had sexual relations with them" OF QURAN SURAH 4 VERSE 24 is a mistranslation real words are
"and the real translation arabic text of musnad ahmed and ibn katheer contains the word "then we considered their bodies hala for us"
(see ibn katheer life of prophet translation by prof lee gassick vol 3 pg 461)


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2)
As far as those two posts by Ali sina Is concerned let me myself make it clear
With regards to the property of banu al mustaliq is concerned it was all returned to the people after they accepted Islam
Ali sina uses a quote from William muir in his article that the property was sold to highest bidders which is a clear cut lie and fabrication and another quote from al waqidi vol 3 page 416 saying that Abu said al khudri ( ra ) had sex with slave woman which is again a fabricated lie
Reasons
1) with regards to property please kindly go to whatsoever seerah possible it is clearly written that all properties was returned and All captives not even 1 less than taken were set free
2) with regards to source from al waqidi his narrations are not accepted if it contradicts the authentic hadith and seerah and what Ali sina used in his article
Root of terrorism 46-47
What he used is not even a narration because there is no narrator to the text he provided AT ALL
It's just like saying that
" I saw ur father hanging from a banyan tree"
Al waqidi vol 4 page 56
3) one of the possibilities is that he fabricated the report because he is an excellent fabricator and changes words let me expose him right here
In his article 72 virgins he wrote that the text sunnah talks about breasts of hoor (Astagfirullah)
Here it is available
Wikiislam 72 virgins
And he gives reference of jami tirmidhi which are not present at All
Please visit
https// islamqa.info / en / 243879
3)if someone is doubting me and my research then please kindly go to ibn kasir al seerah wa nabiwwiyah
Vol 3 page 217
See also the introduction where Ibn kathir clearly stated that he took from the magazi of al waqidi and on page 217 the hadith on coitus interuptus has been included in seerah but no where did ibn Kathir included such report from al waqidi that ANY COMPANION ACTUALLY HAD SEX WITH ANY CAPTIVE WOMEN IF THERE WAS SUCH REPORT PRESENT THEN HE WOULD HAVE SURELY INCLUDED IN HIS SEERAH
Indeed Allah Knows best
Now even after all this someone is in doubt then I challenge whomsoever want Either he be Ali sina or anyone else
COME UP WITH ANYTHING AND AM READY



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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Why too many muslims left Islam?
« on: November 26, 2016, 08:40:05 PM »
Is Ali sina a christian now?

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