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Wa Alaykumussalam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatahu.
Do you mean you got the domain, or no?

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Why defend the deceased against a claim that is not offensive? I see nothing wrong with a preacher being gay, or straight, or bisexual. Let us not judge people by their sexual orientation!

You see nothing wrong with a preacher being  gay, or straight, or bisexual? It seems to me that you have been brainwashed by the media? If you are not Muslim or do not have a religion, what defines morals for you? Nothing but the media. This is why the media promotes atheism so much, they are the easiest to brainwash! Here are some reasons why it is incorrect (the true first reason why, is that Allah(SWT) forbade it, so who are you to say otherwise and to disobey?)
1. You're more likely to get STDs and STIs
2. You can't reporoduce, everyone should reproduce, unless if they are unable to.
3. You think it is okay that you do anal intercourse? It is against human nature. Or fellatios to same gender?
4. What are the roles in the house? In a normal marriage, there are roles for both the male and the female, what about in gay marriage?
5. What can 2 woman do together in bed without any "toys"?
6. God forbade it, and god knows more about us than we know about ourselves, and god will only tell us to do something which is best for us.
7. Intercourse would extremely hurt for the back passage for a recieving male

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Question about the forum
« on: August 03, 2016, 04:09:51 AM »
Masha Allah, we Muslim brothers are addressing the REAL problems of the world XD

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But the real question is, was Budhism a religion of Allah? According to IslamQA it is not. And it is a reputable website, so i accept Sheikh Munajjid's opinion until further evidence is provided
Allah knows best.

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"Imam Al Bukhari relates:
Az-Zuhri said regarding a virgin slave-girl raped by a free man: The judge has to fine the adulterer as much money as is equal to the price of the female slave and the adulterer has to be flogged (according to the Islamic Law); but if the slave woman is a matron, then, according to the verdict of the Imam, the adulterer is not fined but he has to receive the legal punishment (according to the Islamic Law). [14]
Here Imam Al Bukhari brings the statement of Imam Az Zuhri in which is specifcally speaks about the issue of a free man raping a female captive. He says that if the female captive is a virgin then the man should be punished with lashing but if she was previously married he should be executed (Hadd). This is clear evidence, from a scholar that studied under many Companions, that raping of female captives is prohibited in Islam. We also understand that this is the understanding of Imam Al Bukhari, that raping of female captives is impermissable, due to him bringing this narration and the statement of Imam Az Zuhri.
The next Hadeeth Imam Al Bukhari brings in this chapter is the following:"

But doesn't this hadith refer to any other free-man who rapes another person's slave?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Need help with refutation
« on: July 12, 2016, 07:19:48 AM »
I need help with an argument i am in, I will include the discussion below (note i am copying his words down and i am not slandering Islam) His argument is in red and mine is in blue.

Him: so you're saying "I am telling you what scholars of the past and present have interpreted".

DON'T YOU AND YOUR SCHOLARS KNOW ALLAH HAS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN ANY INTERPRETATION BY MEN.
ONLY ALLAH HIMSELF CAN INTERPRET IS QURAN.

3.7. It is He who has sent down to you, the Book; IN IT ARE VERSES THAT ARE PRECISE - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation, they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation. AND NO ONE KNOWS ITS INTERPRETATION EXCEPT ALLAH. But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.

"NO ONE KNOWS ITS INTERPRETATION EXCEPT ALLAH."

The Qur'ān must be understood and obeyed litteraly.

Your scholars are described by the Qur'ān as "those in whose hearts is deviation".


Me: “It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) the Book (this Qur’aan). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkaam (commandments), Al-Faraa’id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudood (laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allaah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord.” And none receive admonition except men of understanding”

This seems to be a more PRECISE translation.

“So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation”, i.e., misguidance, and ignoring the truth in favour of falsehood, “they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof” i.e., they interpret that which is not entirely clear in such a way that allows them to distort it to suit their corrupt aims, because the wording could be interpreted in the way they want. But in the case of the verses which are entirely clear, they have no chance of doing that, so that is clear proof against them. Hence Allaah says: “seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials)” i.e., to misguide their followers and give them the impression that they are using evidence from the Qur’aan to support their bid’ah (innovation). This is evidence against them, not for them. It is similar to when the Christians argue that the Qur’aan says that ‘Eesa (Jesus) is a Spirit from God and His Word that He bestowed upon Maryam (Mary), but they ignore the verses in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

He [‘Eesa (Jesus)] was not more than a slave. We granted Our Favour to him …”

[al-Zukhruf 43:59] 

“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ — and he was”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ARE YOU DOING, YOU have increased me in my faith. Thank you, this verse is PRECISELY describng you, you try to find interpretations that suit YOU, NOWHERE does it state that the Qur'an must be taken literally. It is talking about how people will try to find interpretations that Suit them

And why do you mention verse: 33:36 and 4:14

And Allah knows best


Him: which translation is it from ?

The translation you are using is FULL of human commentary. Is that what you call "more PRECISE"?


So my question is, the brackets they use, [] is that commentary of the translation? or is the bracket about when it is taken in context?

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Exactly, but the Quran mentions "He was created from a fluid, ejected," [Quran 86:6]. Man is created from sperm and egg cell, i think i founf the answer here: https://islamqa.info/en/118879 .Here is an excerpt from the website:

"Dr. Muhammad Dawdah says: 

The scientific fact is that the primordial cells of the testes in the male or the ovaries in the female accumulate in the backs of the parents during the embryonic stage, then they come out of the back from the area between the start of the spinal column and the start of the ribs, then the ovaries migrate towards the pelvis in the vicinity of the uterus, and the testes migrate to the scrotum where the temperature is lower, otherwise they will fail to produce sperm and become subject to the risk of developing into cancerous tumours if the journey is not completed.

The phrase “Proceeding from between the back-bone (as-sulb) and the ribs (at-taraa’ib)” is sufficient to describe the history of how offspring develop; it includes all the events that point to the existence of a prior blueprint and perfect design in creation, from their initial formation in the backs of their parents and their migration behind the intestines, starting from the area between the backbone and the ribs, until they reach their final destinations and until the parents are born, reach puberty and get married, and the offspring are created from something like a drop of water in which no human characteristics or features appear, namely the sperm which is alive and moves by itself until it is mixed with its counterpart, then the nutfah is formed, which is “drops of mixed semen (discharge of man and woman)” (cf. al-Insaan 76:2).

“He is created from a water gushing forth, Proceeding from between the back-bone (as-sulb) and the ribs (at-taraa’ib)”[at-Taariq 86:5-7]. These are scientific facts that science has only recently discovered, although they were proven thirteen hundred years ago. The fact is that the sulb of the man is his spinal column and his taraa’ib are the bones of his chest … If we turn to embryology we will find in the development of the man’s testes and the woman’s ovaries that which will explain these verses that have been unclear to many people… 

Both the testes and the ovaries, in the initial stages of their development, are near the kidneys, in a location between the backbone and the ribs, that is, between the midpoint of the spine and opposite the lowest ribs. Then when the testes and ovaries have migrated to their final locations in the body, they are supplied with arterial blood and controlled by nerves that are connected to a place in the body that is located between the backbone and the ribs. Thus the truth of what the Holy Qur’aan said has become clear, but science has only discovered it recently, thirteen hundred years after this Book was revealed. After developing, the testes and ovaries both descend to their places in the body. The testes descend to their place in the scrotum and the ovaries descend to their place in the pelvis, near the fallopian tubes. In some cases this descent is not complete and the testes stop partway, failing to go all the way to the scrotum; in this case surgery is required. End quote.

Taken from

http://islamtoday.net/questions/show_question_content.cfm?id=10335 "



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Both links do not address my question.

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As far as i know, that hadith is Saheeh, i will get back to you when i find a reference. Also can i Ask you, what sect of Islam do you follow, if you follow any? Why do you hate Mua'wiya, he may have made some mistakes, but he is still a Sahabi of the Prophet (SAW.)

“And the foremost to embrace Islam of the Muhaajiroon and the Ansaar and also those who followed them exactly (in Faith). Allaah is well-pleased with them as they are well-pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success”

[al-Tawbah 9:100]

If in the Quran it says that ALLAH ALL MIGHTY is pleased with them, then who are YOU to say otherwise?

Imam Ahmad said: If you see a man mentioning one of the companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in a bad way, then call his Islam into question.

So, why do you hate the sahabi? where did you learn YOUR Islam from, I see you have good intentions, but do not let them make you go astray. You will not capture the hearts by the way you communicate, do not harshly criticise, i see you do that even on your website to the orientalists.
"And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace,"
[The Noble Quran 25:63]
But if that is to an IGNORANT person, then what about to your fellow Muslim???? We are having an argument/debate here, why the harsh words?

You say that the place I learnt Islam from was from a dumpster. I learn it from a Sheikh, why do you hate sheikhs?

You have not given evidence for your claim about that THE HORN OF SATAN thing.

If he rapes my kin in front of me, and i had the power to stop him, then yes i will stop him. But if i didn't have the power, or if i were to stop him, but it would cause even more harm, then i will not.
But regardless, I will try my best, with Allah's will, to not stray from the Jama'

And Allah knows best.

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Brother Osama, i just read this post, and you seem very critical about Wahabism. I understand, that Saudia Arabia is very corrupt, but do not criticise the scholars based on the corruption of the government. It is like the time when mongolia seized Bagdad, and were victorious. Bagdad previously flourished, and the earlier people were very pious, but just before their demise, the people did bad things such as listen to music, and the ruler himself, when he walked on the streets, his face was covered, because he thought that the people weren't worthy enough to look at his face. But the scholars warned them, but the people and the ruler did nothing. The scholars weren't wrong, they were not to blame.

Rebellion in Islam is highly discouraged. You should not rebel except if they commit open Kufr. You give them your rights, and Allah will give you your rights. And in a hadith:

يَكُونُ بَعْدِي أَئِمَّةٌ لاَ يَهْتَدُونَ بِهُدَايَ، وَلاَ يَسْتَنُّونَ بِسُنَّتِي، وَسَيَقُومُ فِيهِمْ رِجَالٌ قُلُوبُهُمْ قُلُوبُ الشَّيَاطِينِ فِي جُثْمَانِ إنْسٍ".
قَالَ: قُلْتُ: كَيْفَ أَصْنَعُ؟ يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ إِنْ أَدْرَكْتُ ذَلِكَ؟ قَالَ: “تَسْمَعُ وَتُطِيعُ لِلأَمِيرِ، وَإِنْ ضُرِبَ ظَهْرُكَ، وَأُخِذَ مَالُكَ، فَاسْمَعْ وَأَطعْ

Hudhayfa bin al-Yaman narrated a hadith in which he said:

The Prophet said, “there will be after me leaders who do not follow my guidance and do not follow my Sunnah, and there will be among them men whose hearts are like those of Satan in the body of a human being.” And I asked the Prophet , “What I should do at that time if I reach it?” He said, “listen and obey the ruler, even if he lashed your back and took your money, listen and obey."

This shows rebellion in Islam is very bad. And furthermore the priniciple of Fiqh that provs against it is that an evil is not to be warded off by a greater evil
And Allah knows best.

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modern opinion permit drawing living animals as long as the drawing is incomplete & not similar to the size of living creature
Sorry i have to correct you there, not living things, anything with a ROOH or a soul should not be drawn, so plants and bacteria and the sort is allowed to draw. However for educational purposes, without going overboard, it should be fine insh allah.

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Wa Alaikumus Salam,
I am sorry, I am probably annoying you, especially since it is Ramadan, and you are probably busy with ibadaat. But I have read the link and the link of sex determination, it however does not answer my question. I will make my question more simpler, so it is easier to answer insha allah.

My question is: How do we refute someone who says Quran 86:6-7 does not mention the egg cell. It mentions sperm, but it does not mention egg (well it seems like it doesn't mention it)
86 : 6 He was created from a fluid, ejected,
86 : 7 Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs
I have seen in the Chapter 23 12-13 does mention ovum and the egg cell ( as the place to rest ) But these verses don't mention the role of the egg cell in the formation of man.
Jazzaakallahukhair

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How do we refute someone who says that at-Taariq 86:6-7 does not mention the Ovum or Ovary or egg cells?

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Al-Taariq is the Star that is Knocking.  This is the Pulsar, which the Glorious Quran called it Knocking and Penetrating.  Both had been scientifically confirmed:

www.answering-christianity.com/pulsars_are_knocking_and_penetrating.htm

Al-Taraaeb is what you meant, and this had been demonstrated medically at:

www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm#embryology

The Glorious Quran's Miracle had been thoroughly demonstrated on both topics above.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Sorry that my question wasn't quite clear, my question is that this verse about the fluid ejected, seems to be talking only about the Sperm/Semen. How do we respond to someone who says Since the Egg is not a gushing liquid, and the sperm and the egg combined make the human, and this verse does not mention it. Or does it mention it? or is it specifically talking about something else

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How do we refute someone who says that at-Taariq 86:6-7 does not mention the Ovum or Ovary or egg cells?

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