This really needs a big refutation

[Isa27James]

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Then the Messenger of God said, "I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken." (The History of al-Tabari, Vol. 6, pages 108-111)

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[Mohammed.Rashid]

ur not asking this to clarify it i am sure u r asking this to insult muslims and making a mockery of islam

i m sure that u r believer of a false prophet that is paul.
first read my question that invalidates ur greek pagan heretical version of judaism which is christianity said by a chosen one of god a jew called maimonides.

Read my 60 questions that invalidates ur pagan cult of judaism called christianity.

[FARHAN_UDDIN]

Assalamualykum.


 I don't think it is brother Isa's comment. As far as I know he is a Muslim. He just wants to clear up his confusions.

[QuranSearchCom]

As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

The detailed answer is located at:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1406.msg5591.html#msg5591


Also visit:  Bible Prophets died from poisoning as a punishment from GOD.  Was Prophet Muhammad punished by also dying from poisoning?


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Isa27James]

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[Isa27James]

here is what a   christian tried to use to prove Muhammad pbuh a false prophet

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+23

[QuranSearchCom]

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It looks like a special character cut your post.  If I knew this, I would not have used this board.  I am researching how to fix it.  Please make sure that you don't use special characters in your posts.  Here is a brief post with an image that explains it:

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Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[QuranSearchCom]

Also visit:  Bible Prophets died from poisoning as a punishment from GOD.  Was Prophet Muhammad punished by also dying from poisoning?



As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

I have scanned pages 107-112 from the book:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_page107.png
http://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_pages108-109.png
http://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_pages110-111.png
http://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_page112.png

These are for everyone to read along.  I will write a detailed article and rebuttal about this topic, Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  I will also include David Wood's "Death of Muhammad" video, and prove that the Glorious Quran truly remains the Divine Truth of Allah Almighty!




Prophet Muhammad's Death:

First of all, the I would like to ask the reader to visit my post below about the many Prophets that Israel has murdered:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1406.msg6959#msg6959

Now to David Wood's points, although you've been thoroughly refuted at: www.answering-christianity.com/david_wood_rebuttals.htm, but even if we take your theory, which is the worst case scenario, this still clearly proves that the Glorious Quran is the Divine Truth!  You see everyone, David's theory goes like this (more details will be given, Insha'Allah):

1-  The Quran declares Itself to be Divine, and that Muhammad is a Messenger of GOD Almighty.

2-  The Quran warned Muhammad that if he were to fabricate lies on GOD Almighty, then GOD Almighty would:

(a)-  Seize Muhammad from his right hand (meaning make him powerless).

(b)-  Kill Muhammad by cutting or severing his oarta.

[069:040]  Most surely, it is the Word brought by an honored Apostle,
[069:041]  And it is not the word of a poet; little is it that you believe;
[069:042]  Nor the word of a soothsayer; little is it that you mind.
[069:043]  It is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
[069:044]  And if he had fabricated against Us some of the sayings,
[069:045]  We would certainly have seized him by the right hand,
[069:046]  Then We would certainly have cut off his aorta.
[069:047]  And not one of you could have withheld Us from him.
[069:048]  And most surely it is a reminder for those who guard (against evil).
[069:049]  And most surely We know that some of you are rejecters.
[069:050]  And most surely it is a great grief to the unbelievers.

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3-  According to several Islamic sources, Muhammad claimed that he felt his aorta is being cut or severed before he died.

4-  According to several Islamic sources, Muhammad was so weak during his final days, that he had to be carried by his companions to move around and to go to places.

Therefore, Muhammad was a false Prophet according to David Wood.



ONE-STATEMENT REBUTTAL TO DAVID WOOD:

If your theory is true, and that Prophet Muhammad did sin against the Holy Quran through the satanic verses, which Allah Almighty had cleansed them from the Holy Quran and kept the Holy Book Perfect and error free, then how about saying that what was a Divine Warning and a Divine Promise from Allah Almighty to the Prophet in the Holy Quran, turned into a perfectly fulfilled Divine Prophecy!  And even in your worst case scenario, David Wood, the Holy Quran is proven over and over and over again to be the Divine Truth from GOD Almighty.

Also visit:  Bible Prophets died from poisoning as a punishment from GOD.  Was Prophet Muhammad punished by also dying from poisoning?


To the reader, please visit the following links to see the Overwhelming Scientific Miracles and Prophecies of the Glorious Quran:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#rebuttals
http://www.answering-christianity.com/sci_prophecy.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies

Also visit:  Bible Prophets died from poisoning as a punishment from GOD.  Was Prophet Muhammad punished by also dying from poisoning?


Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[ThatMuslimGuy]

AsalamuAlaikum,

Jazak Allah Khairan for the print outs!

[QuranSearchCom]

Continuing with my previous rebuttal:

Also visit:  Bible Prophets died from poisoning as a punishment from GOD.  Was Prophet Muhammad punished by also dying from poisoning?



What about the Prophets that Israel murdered?  Were they also false prophets?

According to David Wood's standards, many Prophets from the Bible have to be false, because they were "outwitted" by the Jews and were murdered by them.  Let us look at some of the Bible's verses regarding the murdering of many Prophets by the Jews:

From https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080503233652AAqHoyk:

Which prophets were said to be killed by the Jews?

peace be upon you Lie hunter,

 i believe you are referring to the following verse of the quran:
 (002:061)  ...They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing.

 in his famous commentary on the quran called tafheem-ul-quran http://www.tafheem.net/main.html maulana abul ala maududi provides the following references:

 The Israelites recorded their crimes in detail in their own history. Here are just a few examples from the Bible:
 
 (1) After the death of Solomon the state of the Israelites was split into two: the State of Judah with its capital in Jerusalem, and the State of Israel with its capital in Samaria. This was followed by a series of wars between the two States so that the State of Judah sought the assistance of the Aramacan State of Damascus against its own kinsmen. At this, Hamani the seer went under God's direction to Asa the king and rebuked him. Instead of rectifying his behaviour, Asa was so angry that he put the seer in the stocks. (See 2 Chronicles 16:7-10.)

 (2) When Elijah denounced the Jews for their worship of Baal and invited them to retun to monotheism, Ahab, the king of Israel pursued him for the sake of his pagan wife so that he had to take refuge in the mountains of the Sinai peninsula. On this occasion, according to the Bible, he said: '. . . the people of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thy altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword., and 1, even 1 only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away' (1 Kings 19:14).

 (3) The same king Ahab imprisoned another Prophet, Micah, for no other reason than that of speaking the truth. King Ahab ordered that he should be given only bread and water. (See 1 Kings 22:26-7)

 (4) When idol-worship and moral corruption became prevalent in Judah and the Prophet Zechariah raised his voice against them, he was stoned to death in the very court of the house of the Lord. (See 2 Chronicles 24:21.)

 (5) When the Israelite State of Samaria was wiped out by the State of Jerusalem, the Prophet Jeremiah deplored the condition of the Israelites. He warned them that it was time they set about mending their ways otherwise they would face an even more calamitous end than that of Samaria. The response to this sincere preaching was abuse and curses: he was beaten, imprisoned, put in the stocks and lowered by ropes into a cistern, where he was left to die of hunger and thirst. He was also accused of various crimes, including treason and conspiracy. (See Jeremiah 15: 10; 18: 20-3; 20: 1-18; 36-40)

 (6) It is reported of another Prophet, Amos, that when he denounced the widespread errors and corruption in the State of Samaria and warned of the evil consequences that follow such misdeeds, he was condemned to exile and told to pursue his prophetic task somewhere beyond its frontiers. (See Amos 7:10-13.)

 (7) When John the Baptist protested against the acts of moral corruption that were brazenly practised in his court, Herod, the ruler of Judah, first put John into prison, then had him beheaded at the request of a dancing girl, and had his head set on a platter and presented to the girl. (See Mark 6:17-29)

 (8 ) The same hostility to Prophets is evident from the life of Jesus. The priests and political leaders of Israel ultimately became inflamed against Jesus, who criticized them for their impiety and hypocrisy and invited them to true faith and riahteousness. It was this which prompted them to prepare a false case against him and persuade the Romans to sign a death sentence. Later, when the Roman governor, Pilate, asked them which of the two prisoners - Jesus or Barabbas, a notorious brigand - should be released on the occasion of the feast, they asked for the release of Barabbas and for the crucifixion of Jesus (Matthew 27: 20-6). This is a shameful chapter in the record of the Jewish nation, to which the Qur'an refers here in passing. It is evident that when a nation chooses its most notoriously criminal and wicked people for positions of leadership, and its righteous and holy men for gaol and the scaffold, God has no alternative but to lay His curse and damnation on that nation.

An addition from me, Osama Abdallah:  Visit the following link to see how the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments CLEARLY AND THOROUGHLY declares that Jesus was never crucified:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm


Other verses:

1 Kings 19:10
He said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD, the God of hosts; for the sons of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars and killed Your prophets with the sword And I alone am left; and they seek my life, to take it away."

1 Kings 19:14
Then he said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD, the God of hosts; for the sons of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars and killed Your prophets with the sword. And I alone am left; and they seek my life, to take it away."

2 Kings 9:7
'You shall strike the house of Ahab your master, that I may avenge the blood of My servants the prophets, and the blood of all the servants of the LORD, at the hand of Jezebel.

Nehemiah 9:26
"But they became disobedient and rebelled against You, And cast Your law behind their backs And killed Your prophets who had admonished them So that they might return to You, And they committed great blasphemies.

Romans 11:3
"Lord, THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE."


The following articles are good reads:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080503233652AAqHoyk
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1406.msg5370#msg5370
http://www.answering-christianity.com/jews_not_chosen_people.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/prophet_poison_death.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/the_accusations.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/mo-death_rebuttal.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/david_wood_rebuttals.htm

Research Links on Google:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=prophets+killed+by+israel
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=prophets+killed+in+the+old+testament

Also visit:  Bible Prophets died from poisoning as a punishment from GOD.  Was Prophet Muhammad punished by also dying from poisoning?


And last and not least, to see the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles, visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Uzair Ahmed]

Why this book still exist? When it an un-authentic and is filled with full of lies.

[The Comforter]

yeah, Al-Tabari has many problems with it, we shouldn't carry it's burden any longer, secondly Hadiths are for claryfying the Qur'an, not for the Prophet's Alledged "Testimonies", so this belongs to the Trash can also.

[submit]

Some regard Al-Tabari as acceptable and some said not. Anywhere lets see the passage
that  Christian used as argument quoting Muhammad (pbuh) as false prophet as he couldnt differentiate between words of God which is truth and false.

The Messenger of God was eager for the welfare of his people and wished to effect a reconciliation with them in whatever way he could... Then God revealed:... "Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other?" when Satan cast on his tongue the two phrases "These are high-flying cranes; verily their intercession is to be desired." ...Then Gabriel came to the Messenger of God and said, "Muhammad, what have you done? You have recited to the people that which I did not bring to you from God, and you have said that which was not said to you." ... Then the Messenger of God said, "I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken." (The History of al-Tabari, Vol. 6, pages 108-111)

The Holy Spirit@ Gabriel function to guide prophets and that is what The Spirit did in situation above if one wish to regard the story shared by Tabari as true. No issue. It makes thing clear that revelations from God are always protected.

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Jeremiah 23 exhibits that Israelite covenant with God had been disgraced and filled with falsehood. Chance will be given to Israelites during the period of Messiah to redeem themselves and still the outcome is the same as told in Isaiah 53.

[submit]

As for Christian saying poison caused the death as he was false prophet. Then was it due to death of poison affecting the internal body parts since he is a mere human or poison due to transmitting false revelation.
By checking the stories we found that the affect of poison had been delayed for years. For it is a miracle as proof towards the Jews that the prophet  was indeed transmitting verses from God and he did not add or remove a single word transmitted by Holy Spirit onto him.

[turkman]