There are no scientific miracles in the Qur'an

[Dawud]

Question to arabic speakers

what does this two words mean

fromverse
76:28
? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
washadadna asrahum

does it mean
 We strengthened their form

some translate it like this


We created them and fixed their bones and joints;

We created them and made their joints strong,

We created them and made their joints firm,

We created them, and We strengthened their joints;

We created them and strengthened their joints;

Why do they translate joints, is asrahum (their joints) or

why do i ask this beacuse

from the begining of the Chapter Insan (Human)

to the word (We strengthened their joints / We trengthened their form) there is 206 words

and we know today that humans have 206 bones in their body

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bones_of_the_human_skeleton
The skeleton of an adult human consists of 206 bones. It is composed of 270 bones at birth, which decreases to 206 bones by adulthood after some bones have fused together

The 206 Bones of the Human Body
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~kleine/anatomy/bones.html

http://www.ivyroses.com/HumanBody/Skeletal/how-many-bones-in-the-human-body.php
There are 206 named bones a normal, complete, adult human skeleton.

evidence

Hal ata AAala alinsani heenun mina alddahri lam yakun shayan mathkooran
Inna khalaqna alinsana min nutfatin amshajin nabtaleehi fajaAAalnahu sameeAAan baseeran
Inna hadaynahu alssabeela imma shakiran waimma kafooran
Inna aAAtadna lilkafireena salasila waaghlalan wasaAAeeran
Inna alabrara yashraboona min kasin kana mizajuha kafooran
AAaynan yashrabu biha AAibadu Allahi yufajjiroonaha tafjeeran
Yoofoona bialnnathri wayakhafoona yawman kana sharruhu mustateeran
WayutAAimona alttaAAama AAala hubbihi miskeenan wayateeman waaseeran
Innama nutAAimukum liwajhi Allahi la nureedu minkum jazaan wala shukooran
Inna nakhafu min rabbina yawman AAaboosan qamtareeran
Fawaqahumu Allahu sharra thalika alyawmi walaqqahum nadratan wasurooran
Wajazahum bima sabaroo jannatan wahareeran
Muttakieena feeha AAala alaraiki la yarawna feeha shamsan wala zamhareeran
Wadaniyatan AAalayhim thilaluha wathullilat qutoofuha tathleelan
Wayutafu AAalayhim bianiyatin min fiddatin waakwabin kanat qawareera
Qawareera min fiddatin qaddarooha taqdeeran
Wayusqawna feeha kasan kana mizajuha zanjabeelan
AAaynan feeha tusamma salsabeelan
Wayatoofu AAalayhim wildanun mukhalladoona itha raaytahum hasibtahum luluan manthooran
Waitha raayta thamma raayta naAAeeman wamulkan kabeeran
AAaliyahum thiyabu sundusin khudrun waistabraqun wahulloo asawira min fiddatin wasaqahum rabbuhum sharaban tahooran
Inna hatha kana lakum jazaan wakana saAAyukum mashkooran
Inna nahnu nazzalna AAalayka alqurana tanzeelan
Faisbir lihukmi rabbika wala tutiAA minhum athiman aw kafooran
Waothkuri isma rabbika bukratan waaseelan
Wamina allayli faosjud lahu wasabbihhu laylan taweelan
Inna haolai yuhibboona alAAajilata wayatharoona waraahum yawman thaqeelan
Nahnu khalaqnahum

copy this and you will get 206 words to the word washadadna (we strengthened)

[StardustyPsyche]

I have conclusively proved that the claim of a miracle made by brother Osama is false and should be removed from his posted claims.

I have no independent means to verify your latest asserted set of relationships even exits, and I have no intention of counting verses in the Qur'an myself.

To work on your latest set of "miraculous" criteria I would need in text form a summary of all the data cited, preferably in .xls or .csv form.  If you could clearly and concisely list in text form all the relations of all the components you wish to engineer into your "miracle" I can work on it over time.

My assertion stands, that there are no scientific miracles in the Qur'an, and the asserted numerological associations are within the capability of 7th century man to engineer into the texts.

Oh, but I did another solution!  This time I duplicated the exact numbers of the so called golden ratio supposedly created in code by Allah.  And I can assure you, I am not Allah, yet I produced these numbers.  There are no scientific miracles in the Qur'an

Chapter	Verses	Even	Odd	Rpt	Non-Rpt
1	16		17		17
2	7		9	9
3	16		19		19
4	5		9	9
5	20		25		25
6	9		15		15
7	28		35		35
8	5		13		13
9	20		29		29
10	1962	1972		1972
11	1961	1972		1972
12	1960	1972		1972
13	1959	1972		1972
14	1104	1118			1118
15	1177	1192			1192
16	1090	1106			1106
17	1127	1144			1144
18	154	172			172
Sum	Sum	Sum	Sum	Sum	Sum
171	12620	12620	171	7906	4885

[Dawud]

I have conclusively proved that the claim of a miracle made by brother Osama is false and should be removed from his posted claims.

I have no independent means to verify your latest asserted set of relationships even exits, and I have no intention of counting verses in the Qur'an myself.

To work on your latest set of "miraculous" criteria I would need in text form a summary of all the data cited, preferably in .xls or .csv form.  If you could clearly and concisely list in text form all the relations of all the components you wish to engineer into your "miracle" I can work on it over time.

My assertion stands, that there are no scientific miracles in the Qur'an, and the asserted numerological associations are within the capability of 7th century man to engineer into the texts.

Oh, but I did another solution!  This time I duplicated the exact numbers of the so called golden ratio supposedly created in code by Allah.  And I can assure you, I am not Allah, yet I produced these numbers.  There are no scientific miracles in the Qur'an

Chapter	Verses	Even	Odd	Rpt	Non-Rpt
1	16		17		17
2	7		9	9
3	16		19		19
4	5		9	9
5	20		25		25
6	9		15		15
7	28		35		35
8	5		13		13
9	20		29		29
10	1962	1972		1972
11	1961	1972		1972
12	1960	1972		1972
13	1959	1972		1972
14	1104	1118			1118
15	1177	1192			1192
16	1090	1106			1106
17	1127	1144			1144
18	154	172			172
Sum	Sum	Sum	Sum	Sum	Sum
171	12620	12620	171	7906	4885

then you are a liar in that case to deny obvious facts from verses and hadith, yo uactually lie to yourself.

here is another challenge for you, let see how you will manage to challenge it



to verify this use this calulator
http://web2.0calc.com/

[Tarek Habbal]

[StardustyPsyche]

"NOW - IS THIS MIND BLOWING OR WHAT?"
No, not mind blowing.

"This Hadeeth has been proven by NON MUSLIM SCIENTISTS and BIOLOGISTS."
No, the Hadith asserts a pathogen on 1 wing and and antidote on the other wing.  All the above fails to support the alternate wing prediction.

No, it is not mind blowing that medicines are made from extracts of living things.  That's what penicillin, aspirin, and many other drugs are.

[StardustyPsyche]

[Dawud]

[StardustyPsyche]

[Dawud]

Question to arabic speakers

what does this two words mean

fromverse
76:28
? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
washadadna asrahum

does it mean
 We strengthened their form

some translate it like this


We created them and fixed their bones and joints;

We created them and made their joints strong,

We created them and made their joints firm,

We created them, and We strengthened their joints;

We created them and strengthened their joints;

Why do they translate joints, is asrahum (their joints) or

why do i ask this beacuse

from the begining of the Chapter Insan (Human)

to the word (We strengthened their joints / We trengthened their form) there is 206 words

and we know today that humans have 206 bones in their body

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bones_of_the_human_skeleton
The skeleton of an adult human consists of 206 bones. It is composed of 270 bones at birth, which decreases to 206 bones by adulthood after some bones have fused together

The 206 Bones of the Human Body
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~kleine/anatomy/bones.html

http://www.ivyroses.com/HumanBody/Skeletal/how-many-bones-in-the-human-body.php
There are 206 named bones a normal, complete, adult human skeleton.

evidence

Hal ata AAala alinsani heenun mina alddahri lam yakun shayan mathkooran
Inna khalaqna alinsana min nutfatin amshajin nabtaleehi fajaAAalnahu sameeAAan baseeran
Inna hadaynahu alssabeela imma shakiran waimma kafooran
Inna aAAtadna lilkafireena salasila waaghlalan wasaAAeeran
Inna alabrara yashraboona min kasin kana mizajuha kafooran
AAaynan yashrabu biha AAibadu Allahi yufajjiroonaha tafjeeran
Yoofoona bialnnathri wayakhafoona yawman kana sharruhu mustateeran
WayutAAimona alttaAAama AAala hubbihi miskeenan wayateeman waaseeran
Innama nutAAimukum liwajhi Allahi la nureedu minkum jazaan wala shukooran
Inna nakhafu min rabbina yawman AAaboosan qamtareeran
Fawaqahumu Allahu sharra thalika alyawmi walaqqahum nadratan wasurooran
Wajazahum bima sabaroo jannatan wahareeran
Muttakieena feeha AAala alaraiki la yarawna feeha shamsan wala zamhareeran
Wadaniyatan AAalayhim thilaluha wathullilat qutoofuha tathleelan
Wayutafu AAalayhim bianiyatin min fiddatin waakwabin kanat qawareera
Qawareera min fiddatin qaddarooha taqdeeran
Wayusqawna feeha kasan kana mizajuha zanjabeelan
AAaynan feeha tusamma salsabeelan
Wayatoofu AAalayhim wildanun mukhalladoona itha raaytahum hasibtahum luluan manthooran
Waitha raayta thamma raayta naAAeeman wamulkan kabeeran
AAaliyahum thiyabu sundusin khudrun waistabraqun wahulloo asawira min fiddatin wasaqahum rabbuhum sharaban tahooran
Inna hatha kana lakum jazaan wakana saAAyukum mashkooran
Inna nahnu nazzalna AAalayka alqurana tanzeelan
Faisbir lihukmi rabbika wala tutiAA minhum athiman aw kafooran
Waothkuri isma rabbika bukratan waaseelan
Wamina allayli faosjud lahu wasabbihhu laylan taweelan
Inna haolai yuhibboona alAAajilata wayatharoona waraahum yawman thaqeelan
Nahnu khalaqnahum

copy this and you will get 206 words to the word washadadna (we strengthened)

answer

[StardustyPsyche]

[AhmadFarooq]

[AhmadFarooq]

[AhmadFarooq]

[Tarek Habbal]

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