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As-Salam Aleykom,

does anyone know what kind of education study has to offer the schools of Medina and Mecca? I'm interested in exegesis of the Koran and the Bible and also the history of Islam. I would be very grateful for any help in that matter !

Djazakumu'Allah khayran

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Salam Aleykoum,


may Allah bless you for such response dear brother Osama, and brother Submit :)
I've heard also that the experts of the ancient manuscripts proves that eg. The Codex Alexandrinus has 616 instead of 666 ! There is even also another variant of that symbolic number, but I don't remeber exactly.

Jazakum'Allah khayran my brothers :)

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Salam Aleykoum,

does anyone have seen those initials before ? How to explain it ? It sounds stupid but I need some detail rebuttal for such kind of argument.



Jazakum'Allahu khayran


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W/slam,

Quran 9:29 - http://discover-the-truth.com/2014/06/03/examining-quran-929-does-islam-sanction-the-killing-of-christians-and-jews/

Quran 2:191 - http://discover-the-truth.com/2014/08/12/quran-2191-and-kill-them-wherever-you-find-them-explained/

A nice compilation of rebuttals for all the so called "violent" verses in the Qur'an:
http://discover-the-truth.com/2014/11/08/debunking-the-myth-that-the-quran-endorses-violence-2/

I personally don't know of any event when the Prophet had Christians killed in Madina, if I am mistaken I ask the more experienced and knowledgeable users on this forum to correct me.

The event you are referring to is most probably the punishment of the Jewish tribe - Banu Quraidah, which is explained in detail here:
http://discover-the-truth.com/2015/04/02/jewish-tribe-banu-qurayza-part-1/
http://discover-the-truth.com/2015/04/02/jewish-tribe-banu-qurayza-part-2/

or the answering-christianity article here:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/umar/banu_quraiza_stuff.htm

Pertinent to this event, I should point out that the figure 800 is generally used by anti-Islamists as the number of Jews killed, which is criticised here:
http://www.haqq.com.au/~salam/misc/qurayza.html

Whether the above criticism holds weight or not the scholars are, generally speaking, unanimous on the point that the Jews were killed because of their committing treason.

Regards


I do not understand why muslims do not use tafsirs eg Ibn Kathir to see what the Quranic verses means ? Please, tell me what is the correct interpretation of the Quran 9:29 ? It refer to the Tabuq battle against Greeks and Romans or it just says that "Fighting those who do not believe in Islam can done in many other forms other than a physical fight or conflict, fighting someone can be done with the tongue, you refute and crush the persons lies, and you preach the truth to them until they repent of their ways and come to the truth. There is not a single objection any Christian or other can bring against this point, because they have deceptively interpreted this verse to mean physical altercation only..." 

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?22018-Surah-9-29-fight-those-who-dont-believe-until-they-pay-the-Jizya

Can someone explain it to me ? What our mufassirun - like Tabari, Ibn Kathir, Qurtubi etc. - have said in comments to verse 9:29 ??
I would't try to translate it since my arabic is not perfect, below the link to the original tafsirs:

http://www.altafsir.com/

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Oh, when I've said "THEY call Jesus the son of Lucifer" I did not mean the author of the video but rather the Vatican and their priests !
As to the videos that I've puted, especially the first one is really worth to watch for the sources have been used there. For example  "Prompta Bibliotheca" from 1789 is a rare christian source that contain many interesting informations. Unfortunatelly, it is in latin language but I was able to find in vol. 6 the article "Papa" where it is written.... “The pope is of so great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws.”      <--- It is a heresy according to the Bible !

link: https://archive.org/details/gri_admrevpfluci06ferr

Excellent video !

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THE DAY THAT EVERY MUSLIM BECOMES A TERRORIST & A FOLLOWER OF THE ANTICHRIST- THE DAY OF BAYAH (THE OATH OF ALLEGIANCE)
Muslims are waiting for their Islamic Messiah called the Mahdi to unite Islam and revive their Caliphate. When that happens EVERY MUSLIM must swear an oath of allegiance and follow the Caliph/Mahdi into a Global Jihad, to conquer the World for Islam, as the Quran says. Muslims have no idea that they are actually waiting for the ANTICHRIST CALIPH who will deceive them into fighting against Israel and the West. The Caliphate is the Beast Empire, the Bible warned would be revived, the Caliph/Mahdi will be the AntiChrist. And those who pledge allegiance will sell their souls (via Bayah/Worship) to the Beast.
Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon (ALLAH)
which gave power unto the beast: (THE CALIPHATE)
and they worshipped the beast, (THE CALIPHATE)
saying, Who is like unto the beast? (THE CALIPHATE)
who is able to make ***war*** with him?
Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be *****TORMENTED WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE**** in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb
See the Picture, Islamic Doctrine even deceives Muslims telling them to take the Mark of the Beast. Flee from Islam my Muslims friends, Satan has deceived you, because he wants you to join his AntiChrist Caliph and declare WAR against Israel and the Wo


Mahdi is the Antichrist ? Caliphat is the Beast ? What about the Vatican ? According to those christians the Antichrist is the Pope and Roman Church (see historical proof and also from the Bible!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9f2aRTbKM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs8nkngeaHM

They call Jesus the son of Lucifer ! They're crazy !

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...and there is some citation from Alfred Guillaume translation of „Sirat Rasul Allah” saying that the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) decapitated Jews and Christians in Medina and threw it into the trench (p. 464) ! Is this true ? Please help, I must to refut that


Prophet Moses killed 3000 stubborn Israelites based on the story inside Bible.
For the Israelites are known to take covenants lightly and not adhere to covenants made.

Salam Aleykum,

interesting, brother can you tell me where I can find it in the Bible ?

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Salam Aleykoum,

Please, can some one give me a detail explanations to the verses 9:29 and 2:191.

...and there is some citation from Alfred Guillaume translation of „Sirat Rasul Allah” saying that the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) decapitated Jews and Christians in Medina and threw it into the trench (p. 464) ! Is this true ? Please help, I must to refut that

May Allah bless you and djazakumu'Alla khayran

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As-Salam Aleykom everyone,

I'am restoring now gradually my deleted posts.


In some very rare Bibles there is a testimony of Isaiah 42:10 which lead to it's secret interpretation that reveal the name of Ahmad. First Bible is from (Amsterdam, 1666 edition) and the second one is from (Venice: 1733 edition). An invaluable hint gives us a muslim historian Haydar Al-Qurayshee qoutes by a well known scholar named Rahmatu Allah Al-Hindi in his book ’Truth Revelead’’ (Izhar-ul-Haq: https://archive.org/details/IzharUlHaq-TruthRevealed4-VolumesmaulanaM.RahmatullahKairanvi), and it is said “that the Armenian priest Auskan translated the Book of Isaiah into the Armenian language in the year 1666, and it was printed in 1733 by Anthony Portolly press. In this translation, in chapter 42 it was written:

Sing to the LORD a new song, the mark of his authority is in his back, and his name is Ahmad”.

Now, it is interesting because if you look at the passage of Isaiah 42:10, you will notice that it begin exatly in the same way as the citation from above:

"Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise from the ends of the earth, you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, you islands, and all who live in them."

In the Armenian Library under section "rare and ancient books" it can be found two early Bibles written in Armenian language. The first edition was printed by Voscan himself in the year 1666 and it has been said that it is based on earlier Armenian version made by Mesrop Mashtots in the 5th century (A. Pisowicz, Książka ormiańska, „Biuletyn Ormiańskiego Towarzystwa Kulturowego’’, 2003, No 32-33, p. 25)….and that one originally was based on Septuagint. Below, the link to the first edition and according to Melikian Colletion Company ''includes an alphabetical glossary of hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek words and names occuring in the Bible.'' (it is very helpful to find faster the name Ahmad):

http://greenstone.flib.sci.am/gsdl/collect/armenian/Books/astvacashunch_index.html

The second edition is known as Astuacasunc‘ [Bible] printed by Mxit‘ar Sebastac‘i in Venezia: Anton Bortoli press 1733:

http://greenstone.flib.sci.am/gsdl/collect/armenian/Books/astvacashunch1733_index.html

The Apostolic Bible Polyglot (Charles Van der Pool) is a Greek-English Interlinear of the Greek Septuagint and New Testament coded to Strong’s numbers. The Apostolic Bible Polyglot in this case is quite interesting by rendering the passage as follows:

"Sing to the LORD a new hymn! Glorify his name from the uttermost part of the earth! O ones going down into the sea, and sailing it; the islands, and the ones dwelling in them."


NOTE: the greek word ὕμνος (gr. humnos) analogically to ὑμνέω (gr. humneo) means sing an hymn (praise unto = ar. tahmid = tasbih = nashid)! The clause 'glorify his name' in other words is to 'praise his name' and in arabic literally goes like this: ''ahmad'u ismuh'u'' (from hamd and ism). Similarly when we say e.g "(inni) ahmad'u Allah'a" i.e. "I praise or I glorify Allah" = singular form (it depends on the case). In plural we pronounce also as "(nahnu) n'ahmad'u Allah'a" i.e. "We praise Allah" but from the context of Isaiah 42:10 it is clear however that not 'we' but rather it is formulated in the sense of "O you, glorify the name of the Lord" meaning that God Almighty is telling them here to "glorify his name" (of course according to Christians translation), thus in plural in arabic it reads verbally (in this case) as "(antum) ahmad'u ismuh'u"! Now, when we change the places of the words 'ahmad'u ismuh'u', instead of "glorify his name", we will obtain "his name is glorious" i.e. in arabic 'ismuh'u ahmad' (i.e. his name is Ahmad) identically to that which was revealed in the Quran 61:6! It is obvious that Jesus (Pbuh) qouted his name from the Old Testament, since Allah Almighty taught him the wisdom of the Torah and the Gospel (Quran 5:110) Subhanallah !

Brothers and sisters, it is not a coincidence ! Notice that Spetuagint - on which is based also The Apostolic Bible Polyglot - after the clause "Sing to the Lord a new song" mention his name (ὄνομα), not his praise!
 
Strong’s Dictionary of the words in the Greek Testament:

G3686 - onoma (ὄνομα): From a presumed derivative of the base of G1097 (compare G3685); a “name” (literally or figuratively), (authority, character): - called, (+ sur-) name (-d).

It would make sense when you clothes the passage by taking and putting both words i.e. accepting praise (arabic root h-m-d) as Ahmad and his name (gr. onoma) as well as his authority and then also as his name, and it explain why the archbishop Voscan translate the passage in such way in his 1666 Armenian edition of the Bible. The strong proof came from Strong, James Strong ! Namely, the word translated as glorify actually means alternatively glorious. See for yourself:

Strong’s Dictionary of the words in the Greek Testament:

G1392 - doxazō (δοξάζω): From G1391; to render (or esteem) glorious (in a wide application): - (make) glorify (-ious), full of (have) glory, honour, magnify.

To be continued insha'Allah...

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: JESUS is GOD – Prophecies
« on: October 04, 2015, 10:21:10 AM »
Salam Aleykom,

I am afraid that Isaiah 9:6 do not talking neither about Hezekiah nor about the Messiah !!!

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Salam Aleykom brothers and sisters,

I would like to apologize for my unsightly behavior by removing valuable info of that topic. I should just add my name below each post, so that in the near future I'll be able to make a copyright for my book. For now, I will restore all of my posts which was removed, so you can read it and share it with your friends.

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2261 views of my post ? No answer from that author of the arabic book regarding what kind of the photos he puted in ? Oh come one!
Why this gut put an email to contact him when he do not answer ? ? ?

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Jews permit prayers inside Mosque but forbid prayers in Church shall there be no synagogue available. This just show the God of the Jews and Christians are not the same at all.

It is interesting brother, do you have a source of that qoutation ? I mean, it can be found in the Bible or perhaps some of the learned Jews does said these words ?

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Salam Aleykom,

Has anyone received an answer from the author of this arabic book ?:

http://www.almaseh.net/index.php/corner-book/3790.html

I mean the photo where he shows Ahmad name in hebrew Isaiah 42:1 (that one which brother submit said that it is an edited photo).



link: http://dc10.arabsh.com/i/01405/ia44u7absy13.jpg

Why the author still didn't answer on my question ? I've asked him aven in their fb fanpage but no answer. Man, it's not normal! I just want a confirmation that this photo is edited by him that's all. Please ask him again, and again until he gives some answer. (email: alfaqeer974@yahoo.com) or maybe he's got some new email adress, I do not know.

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